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So exactly what would cause a dyed in the wool Republican to say "Oh S#@t!".  Check out the following quote from a National Review Republican:

I went to Barack Obama’s rally here, on Sunday night, with a Republican friend who had never seen the Illinois senator in action before. Watching the crowd of more than 3,000 fill up the convention center, watching the people send up waves of energy to Obama, and watching him play off that energy in a speech that was one of the best political performances anyone has seen this year, my Republican friend said, simply, "Oh, s—t." He recalled the scene from Jaws, in which the small seaside town’s sheriff realizes how big the shark he’s tracking truly is, and says, "We’re gonna need a bigger boat." What my friend didn’t have to say was that he was deeply worried that Republicans just don’t have a bigger boat.

Full article here:

As a Republican that will likely vote for Obama I bring this to dkos because it is unlikely that many read NRO and this is something worth sharing.  I also post it to wonder out loud, as Andrew Sullivan does, why (some) Republicans get it but (some) Democrats don't (yet)?

Also, even though I support Obama, rest assured there are even some Republicans that like and trust HRC.  (Yes, a bit snarky)

Originally posted to theotherside on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 06:51 PM PST.

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  •  Thanks (5+ / 0-)

    for the diary...I share in your bewilderment.

  •  Republicans are desperate for a Hillary (8+ / 0-)


    It's the only thing that can motivate their base to come out in huge numbers.  They don't have to worry about whom they nominate--all they have to do is throw Hillary out there, and the independents will stay home and GOP base will turn out.

    All the Dems can do is pray that indies are more repulsed by the Occupation of Iraq than by Hillary.

    Head to Heading Left, BlogTalkRadio's progressive radio site!

    by thereisnospoon on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 06:58:08 PM PST

    •  Interesting column I read today (4+ / 0-)

      On the airplane today I picked up the latest Newsweek, which had a cover story about all of the GOP's troubles right now.  In the issue Michael Gerson wrote a column, "How My Party Lost Its Way", in which he describes his perspective on why the Republican Party is unraveling.  It is a despressing and sobering column for any loyal Republican, but Gerson ends on a somewhat positive note:

      It has been a quick, downward path from Kerry's concession call to the present discontents of the Republican Party. But two caveats need to be kept in mind. First, political recoveries can be as sudden as political declines. And second, there is, perhaps, one large American political figure who could cause depressed, fractious Republicans to bind their wounds, downplay their divisions, renew their purpose, and join hands in blissful unity at the Minneapolis-St. Paul Republican convention.

      And that figure is Hillary Clinton.

      •  Yep, I admit it's not (1+ / 0-)
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        entirely fair to Hillary but I will work for the Republicans to defeat her if she is nominated.  The country needs something other than the Bush-Clinton dynasties and I couldn't stand another 4 to 8 years of divisive politics.

        Of course, I live in AZ and she will not win the state regardless (even though she is comfortably ahead in the AZ primary).

        We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein

        by theotherside on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 08:48:25 PM PST

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  •  America is ready for Obama (4+ / 0-)
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    Heimyankel, djscincy, turnover, haruki

    but is the Democratic Party?

    When I tell the truth, it is not for the sake of convincing those who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those that do. --William Blake

    by Oothoon on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 06:59:30 PM PST

  •  No! It's a conspiracy theory! (1+ / 0-)
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    The republicans are writing these articles to trick us into nominating Hillary. Because Hillary is what they fear! they fear her inability to withstand attacks! She's withstood them so well in the past! that's why she has the highest unfavorability rating of any presidential candidate in the history of america! Because she is so good at withstanding attacks!

  •  Obama is trying to change the political discourse (7+ / 0-)

    and that seems to bother some traditional Democrats who are more comfortable either with Washington establishment candidates (Gore, Kerry, Hillary) or populist candidates (Edwards).

    It's no accident that Obama's appeal increases as the voting demographic skews younger. Young people haven't had decades of political experience to harden those kinds of opinions.

    Some people can't wrap their heads around the fact that you don't have to be angry and divisive to be a progressive. In their anger over all that Bush and the Republicans have done to this country over the past 7 years, they've lost sight of the fact that it's worthwhile to try to rally a broad spectrum of people to your cause instead of preaching to the choir.

    I'm angry over the past 7 years, too. Very, very angry. Angry about a war that never should have happened. About the fear-mongering. About what's been done to our Constitution.

    But I also want a change in the politics we've had these past years, and I'm convinced Obama is the best candidate to do that.

    •  Correct, at the beginning (0+ / 0-)

      "Obama is trying to change the political discourse, and that seems to bother some traditional Democrats..."  After that I don't agree because you pose it as Obama vs. Establishment and vs. populism, and that's not it for me.  I don't give a shit about the Establishment (and in any event, Kerry backs Obama and if Gore were to endorse anyone it would sure be Obama as well), and while I like the populists I'm not one of them.

      Obama's attempt to change the political discourse bothers me because I'm a traditional Democrat, period.  So long as there are Republicans I'll define myself to some extent against them--because they haven't changed.  Obama thinks he is onto something, but I just don't think he is, at least nothing with a half-life past the Inauguration.  

      If I thought the Dems needed Obama's kind of appeal to win, I would support him now.  But I think we can win as Democrats.

      "What you're saying is so understandable. And really, your only crime was violating U.S. law." Marge Simpson.

      by Rich in PA on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 07:40:07 PM PST

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      •  You HOPE you can win. (0+ / 0-)

        You hope that traditional Clintonian rhetoric will get Democrats across the finish line. Maybe, maybe not. I still a strategy I don't quite understand though Rich:

        Black voters have the MOST loyal, MOST reliable Democratic Demographic for over 40 years, especially those who come from big cities. Barack Obama is a big city black machine bred Democrat, the kind you can count on far more than suburban white Democrats of Hillary's ilk. It's really interesting to me. His style is different because yes, he wants moderates, independents, even conservatives to vote for him. That means less votes for, well, actual conservatives!

        Secondly, I'm really wonder where all these people who suddenly become liberal democrats came from? Some thing Bush's poll numbers just magically created this new class of liberals out of thin air? I don't think so. Even today, there are far more conservatives than liberals and they are far more organized.

        Finally, even if you accept a base-turnout strategy, Clinton's operation STILL doesen't make sense because I can tell you for sure that her being on the ticket will decrease black turnout, youth turnout, and netroots turnout.

        I just don't get it. Seems to me like Obama's strategy of expanding our sights beyond our own 20-yard line is sort of like insurance. Vote hedge, if you will.

        "So, until the day we expire and turn to vapors, me and my capers, will be somewhere stackin plenty papers." - AZ

        by brooklynbadboy on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 08:03:33 PM PST

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      •  Since you are a traditional Democrat (0+ / 0-)

        it would make sense that "to some extent (you'll define yourself) against them".  However, what I would point out is that the fractures in the Republican party are really starting to show and this goes to the point that Republicans can't be stereotyped (well, they can but not accurately) and they/we aren't monolithic.

        Even though I have stated I would vote for Obama above any Republican except possibly McCain I do this with full recognition that he is to the left of HRC and I'm to her right.  I guess my point is this: if Republicans suddenly would express support for HRC, it shouldn't cause you to jump ship from possibly supporting.

        Finally, those Republicans (like me) that would support Obama are not your typical Republicans and are likely not the Republicans you envision in your mind's eye.

        We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein

        by theotherside on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 08:41:11 PM PST

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  •  Repubs aren't filling the convention centers... (4+ / 0-)

    ..that's Obama himself. So, conspiracy theories out the window.  

    He could easily have ridden a tidal wave, IF the Clintonites hadn't decided to play their cards, racial and otherwise.  The media's desire for a story is also at work.  There are still no "real" front runners on either side!

    Dems have a choice, it seems:  the tried and tested, a re-do of the Clintonian era; or a roll of the dice and something new and blue, with the Obama-nation.  

    Sadly, Edwards proved his mettle too late, as he was the clear victor in the last debate, coming off as the most mature, confident, and least pissy.  Dems are so enamored with either having a female candidate or an African-American, that they have written off the one candidate that could take on any Repug and win, especially in the current economic climate.

  •  Yes, and let's hope (0+ / 0-)

    that November '08 brings a big fat "Oh, s*!%&*t" moment to all righties throughout the land....

    George!!  Go to your room!!

    Liberal = We're all in this together
    Conservative = Every man for himself
    Who you gonna call?

  •  they need a bigger boat & they don't have one (0+ / 0-)

    that is so true.

    they don't have anyone who matches up well with Obama's energy and excitement and intensity.

    nominating HRC would be a gift to the republican party.

    I am pissed that WJC keeps saying that HRC is the right person for this day and hour.  he's either blind or lying.

    Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D.

    by TrueBlueMajority on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 07:53:07 PM PST

  •  Yes if only (0+ / 0-)

    more people were just like Andrew Sullivan.

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