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I am more than sure that many here know, well they have an intellectual appreciation of it, that the phrase '....sold down the river.' refers to what happened to you if you were an recalcitrant slave back in the 'Good Old Days' of the Antebellum South. They shipped you further South where things were...well, a lot less good for you. Now while the incessant candidate diaries have raged here others in the 'sphere have not been idle. They've been wondering and wondering....

Why is nothing happening on issues this community and many, many others consider important in the people's House. Specifically Impeachment, although there are many others that come to mind when the word 'oversight' pops into your head. A thing that never seems occur in Miss Nancy's well coiffed cranium. This question has been asked many, many times here on dKos and lots of answers have been suggested. For me the search is over.

Follow me over the flip and....

Watch this:

Seems pretty clear to me. Rep. Conyers puts it like this starting in response to a question about Pelosi:

John Conyers: How could she stop, well, she could stop me because actually it goes through a special committee on the House, but, Pelosi can't stop me from anything, really.

Rob Kall: Really?

John Conyers: Yeah.

Rob Kall: So it's you stopping you, nobody else?

John Conyers: Well I don't know whose ever stopped me before, I don't know why Pelosi's going to stop me now.

Rob Kall: You know people say it's too late, and it's not too late for Bush to start another war, appoint another Supreme Court justice if something happened, and here we are stuck with him during the worst economic crisis...

John Conyers: Let me just say this to you because there may be some other people that want to talk to me.  Let me tell you this.  If we started an impeachment hearing that didn't succeed, guess what would happen.  They would say that he's being demonized, that Conyers always, they campaigned against the Democrats taking over last year, wait a minute, they campaigned against the Democrats saying two things, Rangel will raise taxes if the Democrats ran and Conyers would impeach Bush.  Now to come in on January 28th after having been impressed by your logic, Rob, and saying we're going after both these guys at once and if it doesn't, and I really smile at this one, and if it doesn't work at least you did it and taught them a lesson.  Well they would take that and that would bleed right into the election of 2008 sure as we're standing here.

Rob Kall: You've got in your committee stuck there held back Dennis Kucinich's bill.

John Conyers: So what?

Rob Kall: I asked Dennis about it and you know what he said, I asked him about people not acting because they're afraid of the reaction of the Republicans, and his reply was 'that's no way to run a democracy'.

John Conyers: Well I see Dennis Kucinich way more than you and I know a lot about what he's doing and why he's doing it.  I know about my dear friend Bob Wexler from Florida and that's their right and their authority, but I'm the chairman.

Uh...huh....Chairman of just exactly what you miserable spineless polecat? Seems like all you got pal is a real inflated opinion of yourself. Especially in light of this:

John Conyers: Let me just say this to you because there may be some other people that want to talk to me.  Let me tell you this.  If we started an impeachment hearing that didn't succeed, guess what would happen.  They would say that he's being demonized, that Conyers always, they campaigned against the Democrats taking over last year, wait a minute, they campaigned against the Democrats saying two things, Rangel will raise taxes if the Democrats ran and Conyers would impeach Bush.  Now to come in on January 28th after having been impressed by your logic, Rob, and saying we're going after both these guys at once and if it doesn't, and I really smile at this one, and if it doesn't work at least you did it and taught them a lesson.  Well they would take that and that would bleed right into the election of 2008 sure as we're standing here.

Lemme see here....'..bleed into the election of 2008 just as sure as we are standing here.' I think that's what you call yer smoking gun. Mr. Chairman here is so woefully out of touch with the citizenry that he doesn't even realize a case could be made that he and his gang of clowns, that's the Dead Loser Caucus, might pick up more seats if they impeached Herr Decider which given the evidence and the rule of law would seem to demand. He seems blissfully unaware that a real big reason he's fucking Chairman is folks voted the Democrats a majority specifically to put the clamps on Boosh's illegal activity in the White House. Clueless doesn't give the full flavor of this arrogant assclown. Okay, so his pollster don't know shit, or Conyers doesn't talk to him, not something I want to fight over.

But the simple fact is that Mr. Chairman is abdicating his constitutional duty to uphold the rule of law because he's afraid.

No, he's not afraid of being shot, blown-up, maimed or driven mad like our troops whom he has allowed Herr Decider to feed into the MeatGrinder like so many cattle.

No, he's afraid of the Republican Party and the Republican Smear Machine.

He's afraid he wont' get re-elected because they'll say bad things about him.

As far as I'm concerned, his moving on to 'private practice', would be a real service to the country. This arrogant asshole doesn't represent me or my values.

I say get rid of him. And no, I don't want to hear any arguments about 'our majority..', 'he's been a great Rep...' or 'He's a been a real progressive guy for xyz decades....'  

I don't give a fuck. He's abdicated his responsibility to uphold the rule of law given him by the people of the United States. He's admitted as much on tape. He's totally unfit to be a part of any Democratic government I am willing to live under.

GET. RID. OF. HIM.

Originally posted to Nestor Makhnow on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 10:54 PM PST.

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  •  I don't support Impeachment right now (0+ / 0-)

    At best it's a useless gesture which would just fail in the Senate. I think that the Republicans did something terrible in 1998 when they impeached Clinton, they turned a legitimate tool for corruption and incompetence and made it something which Democrats can't use anymore. It's terrible that it's that way, but it IS that way.

    •  To say, 'Democats can't use it anymore...' is to. (8+ / 0-)

      ...assert that the rule of law does not exist in America anymore.

      I'm unwilling to allow that. I wonder what you're doing here if you think that the fact that the impeachment of Clinton was so 'terrible...' that we have to destroy the Republic because, make no mistake, that is what you are advocating.

      'I'm writing as Nestor since scoop in it's awesome wisdom won't let me use my real screen name: A.Citizen'

      by Nestor Makhnow on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:11:03 PM PST

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    •  This isn't about IMPEACHMENT! (1+ / 0-)
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      stringer bell

      It's about the the FUCKING DEMOCRATS ASSERTING SOME GODDAMN AUTHORITY!

      FUCK!

      Nobody's believed that a full impeachment would go through. It was and still is, about placing the Bush administration under public scrutiny for their crimes.  Clearly demonstrating that the bullshit is in fact BULLSHIT! Otherwise, the propaganda from all the spin machines continues to use it to mislead the public. All the assholes that thought this was and is, a good idea will be forced to STFU about how great and wonderful this asshole and war are.

      Conyers doesn't get it. WE WANT AN ASSERTIVE CONGRESS! Saying [in my most snarky baby voice] we don't need impeachment now, Is just plain spineless. Democrats have ZERO credibility, ZZEERROO! Nobody, nobody takes them seriously. The only way they will be taken seriously is to so something serious.
      I'm sick of hearing this ignorant "I don't support Impeachment right now" bullshit. Wake the fuck up.

      "'Politics' is made up of two words. 'Poli,' which is Greek for 'many,' and 'tics,' which are bloodsucking insects." Gore Vidal

      by Kairos on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:48:16 PM PST

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      •  FUCK (0+ / 0-)

        Impeachment hearings tie up Congress, they will do NOTHING else except have hearings. These hearings will be seen as Democrats going on a witch hunt against Bush (even if they are justified as impeachments) and the Republicans will throw it back in our faces HARD. If we make a serious attempt at impeachment we WILL lose the presidency, we WILL lose control of the House, and, even though we really shouldn't, we COULD lose the Senate; this all for an exercise in futility. I understand that you DON'T SPITE YOUR NOSE TO SPITE YOUR FACE.

        Jesus FUCKING Christ, impeachment will NOT make them serious, they will be MARGINALIZED.

  •  We were fucked when Reagan and GHWB (6+ / 0-)

    got away with mass murder, massive bank fraud drug and arms smuggling.

    Don't kid yourself, thinking Bush and Cheney are "it".

    This shit has been going on for nearly 30 years. Our government was sold to corporate control when Reagan came into power, and the groudwork to make it all happen was started by GHWB, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Negroponte and other filthy traitors during Nixon's and Ford's time.

    "If you want to go quickly, go alone.
    If you want to go far, go together.
    We have to go far, quickly."

    by shpilk on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:05:04 PM PST

    •  John Kerry was onto the BCCI thing, but backed (1+ / 0-)
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      lifexpert

      off .. maybe they threatened to kill him and his whole family, who the hell knows. It doesn't make any difference, we're vended, branded and were sold down the rive long, long ago ..

      .. feeling the ropes around our necks now, way too late. Democrats should have impeached, convicted and incarcerated the whole Reagan administration.

      "If you want to go quickly, go alone.
      If you want to go far, go together.
      We have to go far, quickly."

      by shpilk on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:07:36 PM PST

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    •  That is why the current struggle is likely to be (3+ / 0-)

      a painful one. Too many people, rethug and demo, have their hands in the till and are deeply afraid.

      "Nations, like individuals, are punished for their transgressions." U.S.Grant

      by shigeru on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:09:45 PM PST

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    •  Does being 'fucked' twice make it... (1+ / 0-)
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      stringer bell

      Okay. Or does it just feel better.

      Get real, I know Bush and Cheney aren't 'it'.

      This diary is not about them pal.

      It's about Conyers and his fellows in the 'Democrat' Party.

      'I'm writing as Nestor since scoop in it's awesome wisdom won't let me use my real screen name: A.Citizen'

      by Nestor Makhnow on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:12:45 PM PST

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    •  Bingo. We Need to Go Third Party, people... (2+ / 0-)
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      stringer bell, lifexpert

      I know, I know. This is a Dem-only site and all, but either Progressives take it upon themselves to establish a new party en masse, or they will be forced to because right now BOTH parties are feeding out the trough that Republicans set up and they will absolutely never give that away. And they won't make the WH pay because they don't want to jeopardize their piece of the pie.

      Since 2006 they have done NOTHING to make the WH accountable. And yet we're still here racking our brains on how to make them work for us. The answer is right there: they don't want to.

  •  Gotta crash now... (2+ / 0-)
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    stringer bell, lifexpert

    This diary is not about Impeachment per se.

    It's about how deep the rot has eaten into the Tree of Liberty and how much work we've got to do.

    Conyers, yellow-belly  that he is, is not alone in the House. No, indeed....he's got lot's of fellow travelers.

    'I'm writing as Nestor since scoop in it's awesome wisdom won't let me use my real screen name: A.Citizen'

    by Nestor Makhnow on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:17:35 PM PST

  •  DC politics IS the problem. PERIOD. (2+ / 0-)
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    stringer bell, Spoc42

    All these people care about is THEIR power and position - and they aren't going to do ANYTHING that will put that at risk.

    Forget upholding the Constitution.  They don;t give a damn.

    Repubs were right about term limits in their Contract With America - though THAT was a con job...  whole thing was but lots in it was right - like applying the same laws (how about benefits too) to COngress

  •  Replace 'em with those who do care... (0+ / 0-)

    There are plenty. I've met some.

    It's fun too!

    'I'm writing as Nestor since scoop in it's awesome wisdom won't let me use my real screen name: A.Citizen'

    by Nestor Makhnow on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 11:21:16 PM PST

  •  I wonder what he knows (0+ / 0-)

    that we don't. I like hearing him say Pelosi can't stop him, and impeachment is not off the table.

  •  Sold down the river (0+ / 0-)

    but still trying to fight the 'good fight'...
    Another recent DailyKos diary: "Impeachment, Iraq, and Elections" is worth a read.  My comment on that diary refers to a link:http://asknadler2impeach.org/ which was created to allow people all over the country to e-mail Nadler on this issue.  The original DailyKos poster responded to my comment with a link to Daily Gotham (a NYC political blog):  "Dear Congressman Nadler..."

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