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This ought to really raise the ire of condemnation within the Fundamentalist Christian Community,
especially as practiced in the U.S..

Dialog already started
at site of this report, Story of Jesus Through Iranian Eyes

New Movie By Iranian Filmmaker Tells Story of Christianity From Muslim Perspective

You can watch a short video report
of this movie.

A new movie in Iran depicts the life of Jesus from an Islamic perspective. "The Messiah," which some consider as Iran's answer to Mel Gibson's "Passion of the Christ," won an award at Rome's Religion Today Film Festival, for generating interfaith dialogue. The movie will be adapted into a television series, shown on Iranian TV later this year. Filmmaker Nader Talebzadeh spoke to ABC's Lara Setrakian in Tehran.

The fundamentalist christians I'm speaking of are the ones who have all the answers about what others practice
but don't bother reading about, and especially studying, other religious ideologies.

They'll pick and choose little
snippets, of those ideologies, to fit their desired rethoric.

They do the same within their own personal religious
rethoric, picking the teachings and sins they want to follow in their self constructed lifestyles, throwing out those that clash
with their personal wants and desires, than when guilt finally hits, much more often caught in their own hypocrisy,
they say they are "Born Again, Thus Saved!", simple as that.

"We are talking about the same beautiful man, the same beautiful prophet, the same divine person sent from heaven.
In the Koran, it emphasizes maybe three main points: about the birth, about the fact that he was not the son of God, and then, that he was not crucified.
The rest is [the same] Jesus ... the sermons, and the miracles, and the political situation."

The ones who don't except 'choice' as a womens right,  as to what she does if confronted with making that choice and as to her own
religious beliefs, but many wanting their own right to 'choice' as to the number of weapons they might own,
and the full range of the manufactured small arms, no questions asked.
And readily except a societies right to sentence to death those covicted of major crimes.

"The virgin birth was the same. The difference in the Koran, God says Jesus was saved.
Instead of having him hung and crucified, the person who betrayed Jesus was crucified.
This is how the Koran sees it, through the Gospel of Barnabas."

The ones who readily start the drums of Wars of Choice beating, louder and louder, as they raise the rethoric level with
the religious tones of exceptance by 'God' that this is what he/she wants, the choice of! Destroying people and their countries to bring them 'Freedom',
'Democracy', and the 'Righteous View of Their Religion'!

"Yes, two endings. I thought, the Christians, when they see it, it'll be important for them.
{In the Koran} God says, emphatically, he was not crucified. Somebody was crucified in his stead.
In the Gospel of Barnabas, there are explications of this. The majority of {Muslims} say the one who betrayed Jesus {was crucified}."

Also the ones who speak 'Tolerance' but practice 'Intolerance' with a vengence!

"Well, those are not Muslims. They're murderers. First and foremost, they're murderers, and they dress as Muslims.
Today, we have that problem. There is an evil strain in those people. They're, first, evil, and then they find a religion to address that evil,
or to explain it, or as an excuse. But that's a minority that is aggrandized, and it's elaborated — it's constant.
So, when you hear the word "Islam," you get a shock. Every time you hear "Islam," you get a little shock. What we lack is communication."

We were almost finished filming when Mel Gibson started shooting.
I saw the film, and it's the first time the Gospel of John has ever been depicted. It was nice. But it was the wrong story.
In my film, I respect that common belief with all the good intentions the Christians have ... according to what Islam says.
Yet, Jesus, at the night of the last supper, ascends to heaven [without being crucified]. A beautiful man, a beautiful prophet.
Why should he be bloodied that way?

"Many thought this film is a good step for serious inter-religious dialogue.
Many of them liked it — seeing the Koran-based ending. And I was very happy that the practicing Christians were very happy with the film.
I have never found one case among practicing Christians who are offended [by the movie].
American Christians, I respect them very much. I think these Christians, the born-again Christians, especially,
are a very interesting group that Iran is not aware of, because a whole generation of Iranians haven't been able to travel to America.
And those who do move to America, stay in America. So, how to create serious communication, not at the political, but at the religious level?
I thought this would be a shortcut."

If you haven't studied others religious beliefs, especially as to Islam,
go over and read the rest
, it's an interesting interview.

And who knows, maybe it might prompt many to
study more about the main religious beliefs of the people in which we waged Wars on and occupy their land,
you might also want to learn more about their, religions, history and beliefs outside of the religious window thats always open.

Remember though, the bible and koran, were written by men about the facts of the prophets, or son of god as is the new testiment, and not
by those worshipped.

You see, anyone following an Extreme Religious Fundamentalists Ideology, are no differant than those of the other Extreme Fundamentalist Religious Ideologies, be they christian, muslim, jewish, {why don't we ever hear about buddhist invading others under an umbrella of 'God' or 'Budda'?}or any other extreme religious ideology!

Originally posted to jimstaro on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 07:21 AM PST.

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  •  Yous said (0+ / 0-)

    And who knows, maybe it might prompt many to
    study more about the main religious beliefs of the people in which we waged Wars on and occupy their land,

    Sorry, but I don't buy into the idea of "islamic" lands.  

    mandate flex-fuels now!

    by sandbox on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 07:35:45 AM PST

    •  Do You (1+ / 0-)
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      dirkster42

      buy into 'Christian Nation'?

      Or 'God Bless America'?

      Or 'God Protect Our Troops'?

      You don't carry it far enough!

      If they were sent to fight, they are too few. If they were sent to die, they are too many!

      by jimstaro on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 07:43:53 AM PST

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      •  To be more precise, I don't agree (0+ / 0-)

        with the muslim religious concept that when a formerly muslim land comes under non-muslim sovereignty, it is the religious obligation of islam to again make it a muslim land.  For example: Lebanon, Spain, southern Italy, Israel, parts of the Balkans, you get the idea.

        mandate flex-fuels now!

        by sandbox on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 07:54:40 AM PST

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        •  Seems (0+ / 0-)

          you're one that needs to Study Religious Ideologies and Religions within countries, and frankly I doubt if Muslims really care what you are agreeable to!

          Just like Religion has no connection to Others attempting to Dictate how someone should live, in their own lands, religious ideology or political ideology!

          If they were sent to fight, they are too few. If they were sent to die, they are too many!

          by jimstaro on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 08:05:18 AM PST

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  •  Buddhist fundamentalists (1+ / 0-)
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    Sri Lanka has them (in fact two political parties could be called this, one of which is comprised mainly of monks, and the other of which mixes Buddhism with Marxism) -- and they're associated with the majority Sinhalese group, and are against the (now failing) peace deal with the minority Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam.  

    I'm tired of hearing the canard that there are no Buddhist fundamentalists. It's not true.

    Je suis Marxiste, tendence Groucho.

    by gracchus on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 07:37:04 AM PST

    •  Didn't Say (0+ / 0-)

      There aren't any Buddist Fundies, now did I!

      just said

      {why don't we ever hear about buddhist invading others under an umbrella of 'God' or 'Budda'?}

      And nothing about the main subject of post?
      Strange take!

      If they were sent to fight, they are too few. If they were sent to die, they are too many!

      by jimstaro on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 07:47:11 AM PST

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      •  You're right (1+ / 0-)
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        they're just thumping Tamils under that umbrella. The Tamil Tigers, who have declared independence in the north and east of Sri Lanka, WOULD call it an invasion, methinks. (Not that the Tamil Tigers are a lovely group of folks...world's biggest suicide bombers despite being a secular group!)

        Hey, this pops up all the time, and it just irks me. Didn't really have all that much to say about the rest of the post, except...

        ..basically, all of this stuff has very little to do with what people believe, or the content of their beliefs, and a lot to do with POWER. If there's a dominant religion in any state, it will be used to justify the use of power by that state and/or its elite. And of the state's nonreligious...then some other ideological justification will be used (ultimate triumph of Marxism, anyone?).

        Not sure how religious dialog really helps this. Religion is a tool, and I'd argue an amoral one.

        Je suis Marxiste, tendence Groucho.

        by gracchus on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 07:55:55 AM PST

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  •  oh, i want to see this film! (2+ / 0-)
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    ignorant bystander, jimstaro

    but preferably not with a bunch of fundigelicals whose heads will explode...

    good diary!

    funkify your life...

    by YatPundit on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 08:00:25 AM PST

    •  I haven't checked yet... (0+ / 0-)

      Except some of the dialog at the ABC site, which wasn't really too bad.

      But i'll bet some heads are already Exploding, especially on a few fundie pulpits today!

      If they were sent to fight, they are too few. If they were sent to die, they are too many!

      by jimstaro on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 08:09:14 AM PST

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  •  You might enjoy (1+ / 0-)
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    jimstaro

    as background reading, Christianity Through Non-Christian Eyes, an anthology of Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, and Jewish perspectives on Christianity.  From each tradition, some of the essays are very appreciative of Christianity, while others are quite critical.  There's an older anthology along these lines that's out of print and in the other room, so you have to ask a follow-up question if you want to know more about that.

    From the Muslim side, I know of two figures who are strongly involved in interreligious dialogue, Fethullah Gulen from Turkey, whose writings have been collected in Advocate of Dialogue and Farid Esack from South Africa, whose main book seems to be Qur'an, Liberation, and Pluralism.  I'm not sure how either of them relate to the larger Muslim world.

    My favorite book on the topic, from the Christian side of the aisle, has always been The Myth of Christian Uniqueness, a collection of essays mostly by Christian theologians (there's also a Buddhist interpretation of Paul) affirming religious pluralism.

    There's a buttload more.  

  •  for years (0+ / 0-)

    i studied the various religions and their beliefs.  i gave it up.  humans will always have this "religion" problem.  i came to the conclusion that humans hate to think for themselves and religion makes that pesky problem all gone.

    Just once in a while let us exalt the importance of ideas and information. -- Edward R. Murrow

    by labwitchy on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 08:53:49 AM PST

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