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I've seen tons of spammed comments around here that Geraldine Ferraro is a racist and that Hillary Clinton and her supporters are racist for not denouncing Ferraro's comments. I think that Ferraro's comments have been taken out of context. She is referring to the "historic firsts" of this election. Here is what she said in the interview with the Daily Breeze.

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Speaking by phone from her New York law office, the 72-year-old former Democratic congresswoman outlined the themes that will dominate her talk [American Perspectives series]. She also offered pointed observations regarding the Barack Obama juggernaut and what she sees as a sexist media bias against the candidate of her choice.

"I will probably start with a personal account, drawing attention to the historic firsts of both these candidacies in our party, and point out specific, significant differences between Hillary's campaign and mine," said Ferraro.

"I will discuss what I think's been going on in her campaign and the role of the media, which has been far larger than anything I've seen before. And I'll get into what this bides for the future. I may also speak about the superdelegates, since I was involved with their creation."

"I think what America feels about a woman becoming president takes a very secondary place to Obama's campaign - to a kind of campaign that it would be hard for anyone to run against," she said. "For one thing, you have the press, which has been uniquely hard on her. It's been a very sexist media. Some just don't like her. The others have gotten caught up in the Obama campaign."

"If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position," she continued. "And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."  

People seem to be getting stuck on this portion of what Ferraro said: "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position." What she is saying is that Obama is unique and an historic first. He was only in the US Senate for one year before running for President. No one else could pull this off, but Obama can because of his message and who he is as a person. Yes, she could have worded this differently. But she isn't a racist. This whole thing is getting blown way out of proportion. Let's deal with the real racism that exists instead of making false charges.

Originally posted to grlpatriot on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 10:14 PM PDT.

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  •  Ferraro is flat out a racist....and a hypocrite. (41+ / 0-)

    She wants special treatment for HRC, and herself, as poor defenseless white women. She denigrates Obama, claiming his ethnicity is why he's a candidate.

    She's a racist and hypocrite. Period.

    HRC is by association unless she denounces Ferraro AND forces her to resign AND publicly apologizes to Obama.

    Memo to Congress: Put up or shut up ~ all talk and no action pisses me off.

    by SallyCat on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 10:16:44 PM PDT

  •  She just plays one on TV (30+ / 0-)

    Please.  Even Russert and Fineman were calling her out on it.

    "We're all working for the Pharaoh" - Richard Thompson

    by mayan on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 10:17:07 PM PDT

  •  It's more than this. There seems to be a pattern (17+ / 0-)

    with her saying these kinds of things. Look it up.

    Don't Legitimize Fox News.
    "Democrats have the heart to care."

    by jeepdad on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 10:17:11 PM PDT

  •  Give it up. (1+ / 0-)
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    Nuanced debate has ZERO place at dkos.

    You know that already.

    Like communism and fascism before it, fundamentlism will not rest until it is thoroughly discredited or the entire world is under its yoke.

    by Guinho on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 10:17:31 PM PDT

  •  She has said this more than once (15+ / 0-)

    and more than just this campaign, she said it about Jesse Jackson 20 years ago. She said this about Obama in February 2008, again to the Breeze and after her "defense" on Fox, I don't believe she was simply misunderstood, sorry.

  •  Stating as a matter of fact (14+ / 0-)

    that a person is in the position they are today purely on the basis of their race is racist. That's undeniable. That is looking at the world in a racially charged way. That is looking at kid, noticing they are black and on the basis of the color of their skin telling them they are inferior. That is looking at a phenomenal politician, noticing they are black, and telling them that they are only a phenomenal politician because of their blackness. Her racism is irrefutable.

    Obama/Richardson '08! *Richardson as VP (1) latinos, (2) SW states, (3) foreign policy exp, (4) exec exp

    by Tetris on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 10:19:19 PM PDT

  •  I called them racist remarks before (8+ / 0-)

    but now given her history it's obvious that Ferraro doesn't believe that any Black man can "truly" qualified.  

    "The world is waiting...If the world could vote, this thing wouldn't be close" -Chris Matthews. Obama '08

    by Hope08 on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 10:19:48 PM PDT

  •  I'd feel a whole lot better... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...with this characterization that she's really praising him, if she were active in the Obama campaign and not the Clinton campaign.

    I don't believe it. There's too much water under the bridge from the campaign and from Ferraro to make me think this isn't spin.

    "Your life may be monitored or recorded for quality control purposes."

    by PBCliberal on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 10:20:23 PM PDT

  •  HRC needs to denounce AND reject Ferraro's (7+ / 0-)

    statements and have her resign any formal or infomral connection to her campaign.  

    Helping to bring justice back to the White House, one indictment at a time.

    by HoundDog on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 10:20:39 PM PDT

    •  don't hold your breath (2+ / 0-)
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      (we need you to remain healthy and voting this fall)

      it's about biconceptualism ... Obama08

      by wystler on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 10:56:44 PM PDT

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      •  I just heard Keith Olbermann is going to make his (0+ / 0-)

        first "special comment" directed at Democrat tonight focused on Hillary and her failure to demand Ferraro's resignation from her campain finance committee.

        BTW has anyone connected the dots yet, that Ferraro must have been one of those that did not tell HRC that her campaign had blown through their $145 million war chest by Iowa?   No discussion?  No warnings?  No proactive strategic resource allocation?  

        Much has been written that this is Hillary's first and biggest executive leadership position and she and Ferraro, both,  seem to have blown it big time.  Campaign finances is the lifeblood of any political campaign.  

        How do we explain, such incomprehensable incompetence from two people at such a high level?  And with one who wishes to lay claim to be President of the United States of America.

        As I wrote here, in a comment on Feb 20, when HRC says "Ready On Day One,"  the facts, so far, suggest instead "Not Ready For Prime Time."

        Helping to bring justice back to the White House, one indictment at a time.

        by HoundDog on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 01:49:10 PM PDT

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    •  Time for a change. No more dividing our party. (2+ / 0-)
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      DandR

      Proud to be a hopeless hopemonger:)

      by Seattlite on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 12:20:03 AM PDT

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      •  Awesome. (1+ / 0-)
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        "We're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine, and the machine is bleeding to death."

        by Grass on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 02:40:14 AM PDT

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        •  Yes, visually compelling Seattlite. Would it be (0+ / 0-)

          too over the top, and spoil the poignancey  of your subtle "black over white" to spell out "playing the race card" in the Democratic Party is not longer acceptable?  Or "down with racism!"

          Probably, but worry that some folks won't get it.

          Helping to bring justice back to the White House, one indictment at a time.

          by HoundDog on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 01:52:41 PM PDT

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          •  Seattlite, Your graphic is so compelling and (0+ / 0-)

            effective that I had to come back to suggest that you make your stunning and perfect statement a diary.

            After thinking about it more, I see the perfection and superiority of your original design, and believe it to be so timely and important for both our party, country, and world, that I hope you will call more attention to it by running it as is.

            You might have to put in some filler lines to get by the filters which require some minimum verbal content of 300 words, but once folks see the power of your statement I'm sure they would support you if you just even put in 300 underline if that is even neccesary.

            Thanks for your excellent and positive statement.

            Helping to bring justice back to the White House, one indictment at a time.

            by HoundDog on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 01:59:46 PM PDT

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  •  OK (2+ / 0-)
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    I'll say that I can see your argument with respect to those comments, though I still think they are wrong-headed and, in fact, smack of racism.

    How do you defend the stuff she spewed today?

  •  I agree that she is not a racist, but (1+ / 0-)
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    her comments were intended to play the race card in the interest of the Clinton campaign, much as they did in South Carolina.  And guess what, it is getting the press to again bring up race, which had all but dissapeared in recent coverage.  The Clinton campaign must really believe that this is in their favor, and it does distract from Barack's message.  What is sad is not that Ms. Ferraro is a racist (which she is not - look at her record), but how the Clinton campaign will literally stoop to whatever circus act they can conjure up to win this nomination.  This is desperation at it's worst and most damaging level.

    •  oh my (17+ / 0-)

      I agree that Bob ain't an alcoholic, even though he's drunk seven days a week, has blackouts and punches babies in the face.
      Please, lets call her what she is, I don't give a fuck about her voting record.
      Nobody says that shit by accident.

      The trick is in what one emphasizes. We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves happy. The amount of work is the same." Carlos Castaneda

      by FireCrow on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 10:37:55 PM PDT

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      •  Amen (4+ / 0-)

        What the fuck does somebody have to do to be labeled a racist these days -- wear a white hood and burn a cross?  What Ferraro has said proves that she's an out and out, blatanat, no holds barred, disgusting, despicable racist.  Period.  

        •  It is racist whether it is (4+ / 0-)
          a derogative remark about someone while referring to their race or skin color just the same as it is to call someone the N word.

          In that same fashion, the person that she is representing is using the racial issue to try to stop his chance of winning. That in fact amounts to being a racist in itself.

          I will say that over the years I had come to believe that the Clinton's were not racist, but I am now starting to rethink that. I am now beginning to believe that the Clinton's have always played the race card. In the past they played it in a good way, but since the opponent in this race is black, the playing it in a good way would not help her all that much because he would still get the most black votes. That only leaves her with using the racism that is still alive in our country to persuade us uptight white voters to support her. She has shown already that she will use amount of disgusting slime  that she thinks she can to try to get this nomination.

          I do hope that the sad state of this campaign will cause enough super delegates to step in soon and end this.

          Peace
          :)

          I am beginning to feel like a man with no country. That country died when we failed to stand up for what is right.

          by eaglecries on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 11:15:02 PM PDT

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          •  The Clintons play the Clinton card.... (0+ / 0-)

            and anyone who gets in their way, or who is no longer useful, is expendable. Friends, "values", past positions mean nothing. I guarantee that if blacks were still splitting 50-50 for Obama, you wouldn't see any of this. It may not be racism, but it is amoral, cynical, political expediency--which may be worse.

            Why don't you just face it, Hillary? You're not one of the good guys anymore.

            by Azdak on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 11:55:23 PM PDT

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  •  Not buying. (14+ / 0-)

    She whines about sexism, then says that Obama's winning is not on his merits, but due to his race.

    If she had immediately apologized, and said that her comment was ministerpreted, I might cut her some slack, but she dug in and complains about reverse racism.

    She's dog-whistling to bigots to vote for HRC, and I'm disgusted.

  •  I'll cut her slack for being old and sick (1+ / 0-)
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    but the context doesn't help the ameliorate the meaning to me.

    NetrootNews coming soon!

    by ksh01 on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 10:21:30 PM PDT

  •  Obama is biracial (2+ / 0-)
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    If Hilary was a white man she would have lost already. Obama has outcampaign and out inspirationalized her.
    •  Not everyone is "inspired"--Axelrod doesn't play (1+ / 0-)
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      with everyone. Maybe if Patrick hadn't already read the script.

      Obama originally objected to the "Yes, we can" mantra as being too shallow. When I tuned in after having been prepared for a masterful politician, I had to laugh. Who'd fall for that drivel? But one never goes broke underestimating the American public. He delivers his speeches much better than Bu$h, but they depend on having a belief in Obama's as a charismatic leader, which I don't get. It's hard to believe he is actually 47-years-old. Today I heard him channeling Hillary about health care (I want each of you to have the same plan that I have in Congress). It was a small group in PA. of mostly white people. He comes across different with black audiences.

      If he is the nominee, I hope that he can take on McCain.

      •  Well here in MS at Jackson State the (2+ / 0-)
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        crowd was not just black and in fact the white turnout was huge as well. He did not taylor his speech here any different than he has in every one I have watched and i have watched the video of almost if not every one he has made.

        Peace
        :)

        I am beginning to feel like a man with no country. That country died when we failed to stand up for what is right.

        by eaglecries on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 11:27:25 PM PDT

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        •  A mixed audience wouldn't be tailored to any (0+ / 0-)

          group. Neither would the mass rallies.

          When he was in South Carolina speaking to blacks, he certainly had a different voice and message.

          When I watched him yesterday in Pennsylvania in front of a white audience, he was just Barry.

      •  The blind cannot see (0+ / 0-)

        Hmm, what koolaid have you been chugging that makes you think Hillary Clinton invented "I want each of you to have the same plan that I have in Congress"?  

    •  If Hillary wasn't a *Clinton*... (0+ / 0-)

      ...she'd be in Giuliani territory....the well-known name full of fail.

      9-11 changed everything? Well, Katrina changed it back.

      by varro on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 11:48:15 PM PDT

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  •  What crap (6+ / 0-)

    The confirmation comes from:

    1. Her subsequent comment: that she's being attacked because she's white!
    1. The pattern here: she said the same thing about Jesse Jackson years ago.  Looks like she hasn't learned a lot since then!
  •  in 1988 (6+ / 0-)
    she said the same thing using the same language. So my question to you and her when is it okay for a non white person to run for president. What does he have to do to get past the Ferraro threshold.
  •  I don't buy your argument (6+ / 0-)

    She wasn't talking about Obama's uniqueness. If you want to know how that's done, go watch Jon Stewart's Oscar monologue. There are ways to pay tribute to that.

    Ferraro was lamenting what she saw an unequal treatment of Obama by a heavily misogynist press. She thought that there was a perception that it's okay to be sexist, but it's not okay to be racist.                          

    But Ferraro didn't stop there. She suggested that Obama's success was exclusively the result of his being a black male, as if being black is some kind of badge of luck for him.

    Your argument, that "she could have worded this differently", holds no water - her line of thinking was clear, and this comment followed.

    Taking Daily Kos back, one anti-McCain diary at a time.

    by bhagamu on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 10:24:29 PM PDT

    •  Uniqueness (0+ / 0-)

      I do think that some of the success that both Hillary and Obama have had is because of their race and gender. They are historic firsts. It is just silly and naive to think otherwise. It makes for great media. I believe both candidates have received preferential treatment in this election process, on the flip side, both have been unfairly criticized, especially Hillary.

      Ferraro makes a valid point regarding media bias that "that there was a perception that it's okay to be sexist, but it's not okay to be racist." Obama, "the candidate" benefits from that perception. I do not think that Ferraro was suggesting that "Obama's success was exclusively the result of his being a black male," but is part of his appeal. She also went on to say that "if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position [as front runner for the Dem nomination]". She has a point, but she should have discussed the issues more carefully.

      Does this make me both a sexist and a racist? If you think so, then we'll need to peacefully agree to disagree.

      •  Your arguments are disconnected from reality (0+ / 0-)

        I'm not calling you a racist or a sexist - I have no idea why you're thinking that, and to make the accusation that I have is dishonest.

        It's not about "discussing the issues more carefully". Ferraro attributes Obama's success to his being a male. If Obama were a woman, she conjectures, Clinton would be running away with this nomination. Furthermore, if he were white, he would have no luster either.

        This marginalizes Obama's talent, rhetoric, platform and record. It is identity politics of the worst kind.

        I think you're projecting yourself onto Ferraro. It's true that both Obama and Clinton have both benefited and been hurt from their race and gender. If you want to make that argument, you can. But don't apply your own correct line of thinking to the disgusting statements that Ferraro made, she wasn't suggesting what you're talking about at all.

        She says clearly:

        Sexism is harder to deal with than racism.

        Had Obama either been white or a woman, his entire campaign would have been worthless.

        Her rhetoric is transparently clear, and you're distorting it to make it sound better than it really is.

        Taking Daily Kos back, one anti-McCain diary at a time.

        by bhagamu on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 09:52:02 AM PDT

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  •  what makes someone a racist? (4+ / 0-)
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    Of course, I don't think she runs around saying she hates black people. But racism can also be exhibited through ignorance. These comments are beyond stupid; they make distinctions based on race which are not only false but offensive to all people.  She might not be aware of her idiocy, but that does not make it not idiocy.

    "John McCain's platform, and it certainly looks inviting for the Fall: he has promised less jobs and more wars" - Former Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough

    by marcusdean on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 10:24:30 PM PDT

    •  Why does Obama act differently when he is (0+ / 0-)

      in front of mostly black or mostly white groups?

      Is he noticing something different about race?  

      Being raised by a white mother and his grandparents in Hawaii, Obama had to learn about Black American culture. When he was a teenager, he attended some parties with Black American servicemen stationed in Hawaii. Obama's minister and church in Chicago must be a link to the American Southern Black experience. His sister identifies as white-Asian (her father was Indonesian), but Obama identified as black, not both.

      It will be good when there is no racial identity among Americans, everyone is American. Sexism will still be okay, no doubt.

      •  Because a good speaker tailors his delivery (0+ / 0-)
        to best get his message across to his audience. And that message hasn't changed, no matter who he's addressing. Demonstrating to people that you speak their language isn't the same as pretending to be someone you aren't.
      •  I'm calling B.S... (0+ / 0-)

        I keep seeing this comment that somehow Obama "acts differently" around blacks. WTF?!?  Got some examples with links?  I didn't think so.

        And what the f%^ck does THAT have to do with a racist old hag who claims Obama's success is because he's black, and that she's being persecuted because she's white.

        ...unless you're a racist old hag, too...

  •  please it's even worse (9+ / 0-)

    reading the whole thing. the media is sexist, they have bought every bit of her bullshit spin,and moving the goal posts. fact is if Obama were a white man and clinton had the same numbers she has now the party would have pushed her out of the race after obama's february run. the only reason this is still going on i sbecause the party is forcing him to do more and win more than any other candidate ever has to, and don't think for a monute if the numbers and trends were reversed that the party wouldn't have pushed him out a long time ago. that is the truth that no one dare speak. BTW I am a white/latina woman in my 50's and this is clear to me.

    To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men~~ Abraham Lincoln

    by Tanya on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 10:24:55 PM PDT

    •  If Obama was a white guy he'd be a little like (8+ / 0-)

      RFK, or maybe Lincoln (who had a real thin resume).  When special things some around, people take notice.  He can't help it.

      I will drink the Clinton Campaign Champagne 'cause Kool-aid is for kids!

      by Shhs on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 10:30:57 PM PDT

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      •  Maybe RFK (3+ / 0-)
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        but Lincoln was a movement in the making for at least a decade.  He was abolitionism on the political stage.  The Lincoln/Douglas debates were much much more substantial than any American politico contribution to the Iraq war debate.  The Lincoln/Douglas debates, remember, were quite a time before Lincoln was elected president- it was a Senate race.

        Give me a f'ing banana - Eddie Izzard

        by linc on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 10:56:23 PM PDT

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        •  this movement's been in the making ... (1+ / 0-)
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          ... for a while also

          ball got rolling when Howard Dean lit a fire with a speech in California in the winter of 2003. (there were already sparkin' embers on the web.)

          no, it wasn't a whole decade ... but information moves faster now ...

          it's about biconceptualism ... Obama08

          by wystler on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 11:02:11 PM PDT

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          •  yes, but this HERE (1+ / 0-)
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            dailykos, the anti-war movement, the anti-corporatist movement is not directly related to the actions or the political career of Barrack Obama.  He is along for the ride, but he is not its leader in any way similar to the way Lincoln took the reins- Lincoln was integral to founding an entire political party.  

            My comment was to the comparison being made between Obama and Lincoln.

            Give me a f'ing banana - Eddie Izzard

            by linc on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 11:07:36 PM PDT

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            •  um, no (0+ / 0-)

              DKos is hardly an expression of the entire movement.

              Only ~150K reg'd users here.

              Obama has over a million online contributors.

              Best step back a bit so you can see the forest, friend.

              it's about biconceptualism ... Obama08

              by wystler on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 08:55:39 AM PDT

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  •  Ask yourself (7+ / 0-)

    what Keith Olberman asked.  How would you react if the statement above was a quite from Glen Beck or Bill Orally or Rush Lamebaugh.  Can you honestly tell me that you would consider it a treatise on the historic nature of the moment?  

    It is my considered opinion that anyone who could honestly answer yes is either evil or naive.

    "It is true of the Nation, as of the individual, that the greatest doer must also be a great dreamer." Theodore Roosevelt

    by TravelerBill on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 10:25:16 PM PDT

    •  That is a completely unfair comparison (1+ / 0-)
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      for one, this is the democratic primary- not a general election.  We should think better of our fellow democrats, regardless of who they support for the nomination.  Feeding into the media narrative, yes, even Keith O's narrative, doesn't help any of us.

      Give me a f'ing banana - Eddie Izzard

      by linc on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 11:04:27 PM PDT

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      •  Seriously? (0+ / 0-)

        It has nothing to do with what stage this election is in currently.  You are proposing that if a McSame surrogate said exactly what Gerry F said in the GE THEN it would be offensive, but since it is in the PE everything is cricket?

        You expect me to believe that anyone can justify that logic. Please justify it to the board, if you can.

        "It is true of the Nation, as of the individual, that the greatest doer must also be a great dreamer." Theodore Roosevelt

        by TravelerBill on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 07:03:50 AM PDT

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        •  you don't get it (1+ / 0-)
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          do you truly believe that Hillary and Bill Clinton are racists?  I suspect you believe that they would 'race-bait' as a 'do anything to win' strategy.  You don't even see the story that you are telling, the narrative that you and others like you are spinning not because it is probably true, but because you want it to be true.

          The point being is- why?  Why would the Clinton campaign 'race-bait' when they know as well as you and I do that this action would result in the NET loss of votes in the democratic primary.  And to say that they are trying attract 'racist crossover voters' is both dishonest and foolish.  Dishonest because you cannot prove it, only speculate with conspiracy type theories.  Foolish because people who are that motivated by race in this country don't need a 'dog whistle' to vote against someone based on the color of their skin- they were going to vote that way anyway.

          Give me a f'ing banana - Eddie Izzard

          by linc on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 08:16:48 AM PDT

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  •  Actually yes, yes, she is a racist (3+ / 0-)
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    Nice spin, Clintmeister! Michael Richards would be proud.

  •  defenders seem to be putting words in her mouth (8+ / 0-)

    No one else could pull this off, but Obama can because of his message and who he is as a person

    I just don't see how you can reasonably derive this from what she says:

    "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position," she continued. "And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."  

    -- nothing about his message or who he is as a person.  It's his skin color and gender.

    I don't know whether she is a racist -- but the widespread efforts to defend her by rationalizing or altering what she actually said is becoming more troubling than the initial quote.

  •  She's not? (5+ / 0-)

    Well she does have a history  . .

    But at the very least it was demeaning to Obama. This is an extremely accomplished man by any standard.

    She also infers that it's easier for an African-American man to be elected to public office than a white woman. If that's so, I wonder why there haven't been more.

    I think part of the problem with white folks, is they don't recognize when they're being racist.

    •  -- (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      heliosfootball

      I think part of the problem with white folks, is they don't recognize when they're being racist.

      True facts. People think that as long you're not burning crosses and spitting on people you don't qualify as racist, when the truth is that racism is insidious in our culture and white privilege is just as invisible as it ever was.

      Oh yeah, Sen. Obama is so lucky to be a black man. Black men just ride the wave of liberal guilt to national office all the time-- oh wait. He's only the THIRD black senator since Reconstruction.

      Flag Pin Patriot: working day and night to undermine our hard fought rights under the Constitution, wearing a tin flag pin made in China (Duke S)

      by sarashina nikki on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 12:04:27 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  More than that (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      tbounnak

      She also infers that it's easier for an African-American man to be elected to public office than a white woman. If that's so, I wonder why there haven't been more.

      If its easier for and African American male than a white woman, why are there 16 female Senators and one African American?

      Proud to be a hopeless hopemonger:)

      by Seattlite on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 12:27:59 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Hillary show us your Tax Returns so we can end (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Professor Fate, TravelerBill

    this thing now!

    I will drink the Clinton Campaign Champagne 'cause Kool-aid is for kids!

    by Shhs on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 10:29:02 PM PDT

  •  How are Ferraro's Comments... (11+ / 0-)

    ...any less reprehensible than those of Rush Limbaugh, who claimed that the only reason people thought Donovan McNabb is a good quarterback is because the media wants to promote a black quarterback?

    I'm not buying your line about only being in the Senate two years before running for President, either.  Abraham Lincoln ran for President four years after running for the U.S. Senate from Illinois, and he didn't even win that election.  That turned out pretty well!

    •  Not so well for the 600K who died... (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      hopefulcanadian

      in the civil war.  All things being equal experience in world affairs is a plus.  GW Bush had none, and we got something less than a Lincoln.

      Not that Clinton's experience is so extensive, but it is a bit more than Obama's.  But if that were what we were deciding candidates on, Richardson would have won it, hands down.

      •  Experience at what? (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        wystler, Grannus

        Sipping tea with visiting dignitaries?

      •  Historical Ignorance (0+ / 0-)

        If you seriously think that the South was going to give up slavery by any means other than force, you are seriously ignorant of mid-19th century American history.  A civil war to end slavery was inevitable; we were lucky that it occurred at a time when we had our greatest President ever to guide us through the crisis.

        Republicans love to promote themselves as the party of Lincoln, completely ignoring that the 1860's were a completely different time than today.  Back then, the Republicans were the liberals, and the Democrats were the conservatives.  I've read before that Karl Marx of all people closely followed the U.S. presidential election of 1856, rooting for the Republican nominee.

  •  The only Reason Hillary Clinton is in the race (10+ / 0-)

    is because she is a woman.

    That's it.

    How does that sound?

    Does that sound like a fair statement?

    The only reason that Ferraro is important is because she's a woman. Plain and simple.

    How about that?

    I think it's funny to hear her talk about anti-woman treatment then slap a positive spin on Obama's race.

    All of these candidates have been given a free pass because none of them threaten to rock the corporate boat - none of them.

    Contrast that with the negative or nil coverage that Edwards got.

    Sharing and Caring are for Commies! They should be illegal.

    by k9disc on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 10:30:59 PM PDT

  •  No context problem (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    peraspera

    I don't know whether Ferraro is racist or not. I've given her the benefit of the doubt and think that she just misspoke and now doesn't know how to admit that what she said was wrong.

    But what she said was racist. And in fact, the fuller context you present shows that Ferraro is claiming that the media has been sexist. The logical thing to say at that point is to talk only about the fact that Obama is a man. (And there was some soft treatment of Obama's indirect swipes that he doesn't cry etc.). But strangely, Ferraro's comment is not about how Obama is a man, but that he is not a white man.

    Ferraro may not be racist, but this comment is racist and plays to racist sentiments. Most cyncially of all, the comment seems to be part of an attempt to offset perceived sexist treatment by playing to opponents of race-based affirmative action.

    I just saw Clinton say in an old video from one of Bill Clinton's campaigns that the object of a campaign is to "beat the other guy's brains out" - this is Clinton's approach to campaigns, so I think it is pretty easy, and credible, to ascribe cynical motives to her campaign tactics.

  •  Spin Spin Spin (5+ / 0-)

    How can you put that kind of interpretation on it. I read the entire thing last night and that never occurred to me. It's simply an attempt to clean up what she said.

    I suppose she meant the same thing about how exciting it is when she made similar comments about Jesse Jackson - from the Washington Post

    President Reagan suggested Tuesday that people don't ask Jackson tough questions because of his race. And former representative Geraldine A. Ferraro (D-N.Y.) said Wednesday that because of his "radical" views, "if Jesse Jackson were not black, he wouldn't be in the race."

  •  Do you believe what you are writing? (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Shhs

    Or are you paid to pretend to be  so dense? At least Howard  Wolfson and Mark Penn get good money to do the dirty work.  Please disclose it if you are a paid Clinton operative.

  •  Gee (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Wanderer

    My Homer is not a communist.  He may be a liar, a pig, an idiot, a communist, but he is not a porn star.

    -- Grandpa Simpson.  

    All my life I've had one dream: to achieve my many goals. - H. Simpson

    by henna218 on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 10:35:11 PM PDT

  •  I'll buy that she isn't racist (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    espresso, jethropalerobber, mouser68

    But her comments of late sure as shit are.

    Dated Edwards, Married Obama.
    Finding God in a Dog (2)

    by maxomai on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 10:36:00 PM PDT

  •  Her words in context might help.... (4+ / 0-)

    She went on to say:

    If my name had been Gerald Ferraro, I would never have been the VP candidate in 1984.  

    So does that mean that she is sexist for making that statement?

    She is pointing out that America is trying to fight it's existing isms, and are doing so by championing one of the previously rejected group when possible.  

    Barack Obama is black, which is newsworthy and makes him special.  I only believe there was one other black Senator elected since reconstruction.  

    And the fact that anyone refers to his race, and the advantages that may accrue is a bit absurd.  When some of HRC's staff said that his race could work against him this was also attacked.

    Everything that a candidate is, his/her age, charisma, experience, voting record, campaign, assoicates......all are subjects to be raised by competitors.

    Talking about race is not racist, unless one defines it as such.  And then very quickly we have a speech and thought police, that would be a cure worse than the disease.  

    •  you make the argument better than the diarist (0+ / 0-)

      i don't really see her observations as racist so much as patently bogus (not to mention politically stupid).

      but even there, given what she said about her own VP turn i think she really does believe obama is getting some kind of special affirmative action treatment.

      whatever.

    •  forget to add: she's clearly projecting n/t (0+ / 0-)
    •  It's an entirely different situation, though. (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      OnStarboardTack, Uncle Moji
      VP on the ticket isn't an elected position. It's not like there was a groundswell of popular support behind her and she's speculating that it was because the country was ready for a female vice-president, and she just happened to be that female.

      It was the Democratic party that decided to put a Geraldine, not a Gerald, on the ticket as a calculation to play identity politics and try to attract female voters. Obviously it didn't work, and I won't speculate about whether or how much the decision had to do with that record loss.

      But this is another instance of attacking Barack Obama's voters, not the candidate himself. She's saying we're only voting for him because he's black, which is insulting to his supporters of all races. I mean, in that case, we might as well just vote for Sinbad, right? At least he has foreign policy experience.

       

    •  3 African American Senators since Reconstruction (0+ / 0-)

      Edward Brooke (R-MA) (How soon they forget!)
      Carol Mosely Braun (D-IL)
      Barack Obama (D-IL)

  •  We're all "more or less" racist because we (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    PBCliberal, mouser68

    live in a racist society. It isn't WHO Ferraro is that is the problem. It is WHAT she is saying and doing. And those actions ARE racist insofar as they serve to promote and perpetuate a racial hierarchy in the U.S.

    The US created a meme or narrative in the 70's out of characters like Archie Bunker: racism is the fault of "bad others." In fact, this very language of "bad others" is what created race in the first place (i.e. this mem or narrative does NOTHING to account for or combat racism and, in fact, promotes it by doing so). Race/Racism cannot be accounted for by turning people into "bad others." While people are perpetuating race/racism, we are ALL implicated in Race/Racism until we change our society.  

    •  No we are not all racists. (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      OnStarboardTack

      This is just the usual cop out. We are not all racists
      the same way we are not all drunk drivers or the way we are not all rapists. Only the people who commits those acts are culpable. To paint everyone with a broad brush is to excuse inexcusable behavior. It is sophistry.

  •  If you don't support Obama (4+ / 0-)

    you are open to being called a racist.

    Them's the facts here on big orange...get used to it.

    I am Tom P, the gay activist, not TomP, the Edwards supporter. I agree with him on most things, for the record. I support Edwards or Hillary.

    by Tom P on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 10:39:47 PM PDT

  •  The sky is not blue (4+ / 0-)

    It merely reflects blue light.

    A Racist is someone who makes racist statements  and believes them.

  •  God, Americans are so dumb about race . . . pleas (0+ / 0-)

    please read a book or do something to educate yourselves.

  •  Obama didn't want to hang around the Senate long (0+ / 0-)

    enough to have a record, but he did get the "kiss of death" for voting almost like Hillary in his short career--"Most Liberal Voting Record"--which did not work to Kerry's advantage.

  •  A Racist is someone who makes racist statements (0+ / 0-)

    and believes them.

  •  Stand By Your ________ #1 with a bullet (0+ / 0-)
    Tammy Wynette sang of Standing By Your Man, In Ferraro's
    case, it appears she is standing by her statement. In the
    political world, having your cake and eating it is too often
    the desire.

       This is a comment I left in another thread :

      Harpo Marx is leaning against the wall...  
      ..of a building and a beat cop approaches him and says
     something like : Hey you, whaddya' doin' ya vagrant, move
     along, Harpo nods and the cop walks on. The cop returns
     and Harpo hasn't moved so the cop says, I thought I told
     you to move along, What do you think, you think your
     holding that building from falling over? Harpo nods yes,
     and the beat cop yells, NOW! MOVE along!! Harpo moves
     away from the wall and the wall and building fall over and
     collapse to the ground.
                   When Ferraro and others have failed to step away
             from their wink, wink fill in the blank with whatever
             you may wish to infere comments. They are insisting
             that harm be done, will not accept blame and themselves
             are justified in counter attacking. Not cool!
                      The wall of racism and baiting can't fall
                  when it continues to be held up.

                  (Harpo probably had an affinity for black people
             and they for him if I would guess by the movies =
             so this isn't a knock on him or the bros.)  

  •  Ferraro's not racist with that remark? (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    loon with a view, jedennis

    yes, and the Pope is not even a Catholic...

  •  I don't buy it (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    hardtoport

    Girl Patriot

    Geraldine Ferraro is old enough to know the brutal and corrosive history of Mississippi. Either she was being ignorant or simply expressing what I feel us the underlying tragedy of Clinton's campaign. There is nothing liberating or transformative about it. Hillary has acted as though the Presidency should be hers by right of her status as the first credible woman to run for office. Up until Iowa, when the media woke up to the fact that her campaign had been out organized and soundly beaten by a better candidate, she was treated as the President in waiting. Once the press began to question wherher she was truly the better candidate she resorted to a variety of tactics there had nothing to do with feminism and everything to do with how women who want to appear wronged garner sympathy. She feared up, she played the victim. A good candidate, with a half way decent campaign team knows understands they are first and foremost selling a product and they are able to frame its reception. A bad candidate, with a poor message always finds someone else to blame for their failure. Unable to convince us she was a product that could stand on her own, she first tried to make us feel guilty by tearing up. Then she tried to con us by making it seem if we voted for Hillary we would magically return to the glorious 90s. As each of these strategies failed and Barack out played get quietly and with clear focus she quite simply lost it and turned in to the product of a thousand faces: there was Hillary as the bully kicking sand in Barack's face, then she turned into acid flashback Hillary, then she turned into Hillary the protector god who would save us from Nigerian telemarketers at three I clock on the morning when the kiddies are all snug in their beds. Then she tried out Hillary the Macho Republican. Finally when all these had failed she reverted back to being Hillary the Southern Belle of Birth of a Nation and unleashed her toothless old attack dog to remind the good ok' boys of Mississippi that Barack was a black man out to get a defenseless White woman. Don't tell ne that Ferraro was not playing the race card because that was the only thing left that she knew would work in Mississippi and it resulted in the most racially polarized primary to date. I do not care if Ferraro is not a racist to callously use race in that way lowers to the level if being one.

  •  Sorry, I'd support Obama as much if he were white (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    sarashina nikki

    THAT'S A FACT.
    I'm DYING FOR a president from the Midwest. This country DESPERATELY needs to get past this Northeast vs South culture war.  Northeastern DEMs are ABSOLUTELY UNELECTABLE as presidents right now.  It's just that simple.  JFK would be unelectable in 2008 because he is from MASS and probaly 35 states simply won't vote for a DEM from MASS or NY.  I was for Russ Feingold for that reason before I was for Obama.

    I want somebody who was a clear voice against DEFICIT SPENDING FOR NATIONBUILDING that isn't from the NORTHEAST.  That's Obama.

  •  She just plays one on television. n/t (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    OnStarboardTack, jeffwtux
  •  Obama is from the Midwest.Thats why I support him (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    jethropalerobber

    This country DESPERATELY NEEDS a president from the Midwest.

  •  Im a PREJUDICED DISCRMATORY REGIONALIST this year (0+ / 0-)

    I will only vote for a candidate from the Midwest.  Sorry John Edwards, I was against your candidacy because you were from the South.  I'm sick of the South own the WH.

  •  Obama, Russ Feingold, both Midwesterners (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    jethropalerobber

    those were the guys I wanted to be prez this year.

  •  First woman president: Sen Amy Klobuchar (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    jethropalerobber

    from Minnesota...Midwesterners RULE!

  •  Why do people fail to mention that Affirmative (0+ / 0-)

    Action not only benefit Blacks, but  also women, people with disabilities, woman and other groups facing discrimination, woman .

    Get my point Geraldine?

  •  Ferraro is like a relative... (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    jethropalerobber, jeffwtux

    ...spouting off a foolish racist remark.  

    It doesn't necessarily mean she is a racist, but she's obviously not comfortable with the idea that Barack Obama is succeeding on his merits against Hillary Clinton.

    What's worse, he's ruining the coronation of Hillary Clinton by putting her through a primary war.  Doesn't that uppity person of color know his place?  It's her turn, dammit! (/snark)

    9-11 changed everything? Well, Katrina changed it back.

    by varro on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 11:36:52 PM PDT

    •  Doesn't he realize all that... (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      varro

      <snark>Doesn't Obama realize all that Hillary deserves this nomination after all she has been through?</snark>

    •  This is one of those unguarded remarks that.... (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      OnStarboardTack, varro

      reveal one's true character. The very fact that she felt compelled to comment on this race the way that she did is revealing of bigotry. It's not like she was led into that comment or it was taken out of context. When people on their own start introducing racial issues, especially in a negative context, they tell a lot about themselves. Her follow up reaction confirms the original negative impression. So, no, it is not an innocent comment at all. There is a sports talk guy in Chicago who is the same way. He tries to dress up his comments with pseudo "objective" framing, but he is constantly introducing a race-based perspective into his show.

      Furthermore, there is evidence, by analysts like Jonathan Fineman and the later remarks by the Clinton campaign that, while they may not have planned these remarks, they were not opposed to them at all, and they fit into this ongoing narrative to narrowly define Obama as an "angry black candidate" as well as fan the racial fears of her base supporters.

      So, sorry, these are not false charges at all, and they aren't insignificant.

      Why don't you just face it, Hillary? You're not one of the good guys anymore.

      by Azdak on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 11:49:15 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Driving Miss Hillary (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    jeffwtux

    Doesn't Obama know that his place is to drive Hillary to the White House by being her VP? Hand over his hard earned support to her so she can enjoy what is her due?
    Geraldine gets it. Why doesn't Obama?

  •  Where there's smoke there's fire: (0+ / 0-)
    1. Geraldine Ferraro
    1. Bill Clinton (South Carolina comments)

    I would not have believed this either, but when the Clinton Campaign does not Denounce and Reject (instead of embracing) this crap, you can see why people are reacting the way they do.

    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, de-briefed, or numbered!

    by Professor Fate on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 11:50:47 PM PDT

  •  Even a hint of this (0+ / 0-)

    Should have caused her to resign. The fact that it was was overt, and in your face is even more reprehensible because she did not.

    I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the atmosphere ~ Thomas Jefferson

    by valadon on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 11:56:53 PM PDT

  •  SHE. IS. A. RACIST. (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    hardtoport

    Anyone who says those things that you quoted, and then days later says that people are attacking her BECAUSE SHE IS WHITE, is a racist.  These aren't isolated statements by Ferraro .. she's been beating this drum for a few months probably.  White people who complain about black people as if they get preferential treament because they are black, and then complain about some imagined reverse-racism, are racist.  Period.  And there's even the quotes from 1988 when she basically said the same thing about Jesse Jackson.  She's a racist.  Defending racism is enabling racism.  That's a form of racism.  That's the truth.  I'm tempted to go on and say things about the diarist, but maybe she can just think about these things and see the error of her ways.

    •  The diarist sees just fine (0+ / 0-)

      I have given a lot of thought to race and gender in this "race" to power. I don't like your implication here. Making false charges of racism (against me) is just as dangerous and weakens any real charge of racial bias and any real opportunity for change. I stand by my diary and my interpretation of Ferraro's comments in this context.

      The MSM has made similar statements regarding Obama and actually done a good job of discussing the historical firsts and how CW is thrown out the window. I think Team Obama and supporters have had a knee jerk reaction because of Ferraro's association with the Clinton campaign.

      I have heard charges here that Ferraro has had a history of making "misstatements" like this regarding black men. That changes the context and I will look in to it.

  •  Are you a paid (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    hardtoport

    commenter at DKos?  I'm serious.

    Looking at your history . . . it's rather telling.

    You have two themes since coming here - that's it.

    a.  Obama has ties to . . . dark-skinned people.

    b.  Clinton does well . . . when she's not being unfairly characterized.

    You're more than a suspicious poster, IMHO.

    "So, please stay where you are. Don't move and don't panic. Don't take off your shoes! Jobs is on the way."

    by wader on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 12:08:44 AM PDT

    •  Well, if she is. It's not working (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      wader

      This diary is pretty much being rejected.

    •  Right (0+ / 0-)

      That is what I must be. I must be paid because I have opinions that differ from yours. I must be ignorant and a racist not to embrace Obama. It's called diversity, wader, but I guess you cannot tolerate it.

      I'm not hiding the fact I support Hillary, nor have I ever hid my thoughts on Obama's chances against the RAM and why his chances aren't good. I'm new to dkos so I  don't have a nice little collection of rant diaries like most folks here do.

      •  It's not a difference of opinion here (0+ / 0-)

        It's an utter lack of logic and comprehension that I hear.

        This comes off as so much ideology as to obfuscate facts on the ground and turn them into what they are not.  It creates spin without reasonable backing, IMHO.

        And, I've seen it before.  Which is why I've questioned your purpose.

        You can support Clinton without resorting to the appearance of being an ideological shill.

        "So, please stay where you are. Don't move and don't panic. Don't take off your shoes! Jobs is on the way."

        by wader on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 09:25:38 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Dismissive (0+ / 0-)

          And, I've seen it many times before that difference of opinion on dKos are dismissed as illogical or being ideological. I don't have time to write a thesis on identity politics to possibly cover every angle and counterpoint. I think to expect that from diaries on dKos is ridiculous. Here, I focused on an interview that contained a comment that I felt was taken out of context. Period. If you want to call me on broadening the context like others have (comments GF made in 1998), then I think that is a fair counterpoint to make. But to attack me personally, to call my motivations into question, then counter with more dismissive statements is empty, weak, and above all, arrogant.

          •  I didn't ask for a thesis (0+ / 0-)

            Because, I tend to write them at time, myself.  It takes more time than is necessary.

            As many have noted here, your logic doesn't follow and facts are being oddly turned inside out.  If you'd like, I'll create my own thesis on the matter.  Probably just end up as a rewording of so many posts, above, though.

            This has nothing to do with partisanship - that's your claim.  I'm concerned with your integrity and purpose, because of the fact that your assertions don't follow from facts or reasonable assumptions.  They seem entirely driven by ideology.

            Any Obama or McCain supporter doing the same thing would have their arguments broken down and/or suspected of being a shill.

            I'm all for reasoned debate and differences of opinion on what is effective vs. not.  I hate debating reality when facts are in front of our collective faces, though.

            "So, please stay where you are. Don't move and don't panic. Don't take off your shoes! Jobs is on the way."

            by wader on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 11:12:59 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  BTW, I didn't write a thesis, but happened to (0+ / 0-)

              offer a different reply which offers some of my thinking on the matter you have addressed.

              As for whether she is directly a racist or not, see my opinion (and feel my skepticism) here.

              "So, please stay where you are. Don't move and don't panic. Don't take off your shoes! Jobs is on the way."

              by wader on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 11:19:33 AM PDT

              [ Parent ]

  •  iF Obama was white (0+ / 0-)

    this damned primary would have been done after he won 11 straight contests.  Let's be real.

  •  Uh, grl... Please Google "racist" (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    DelRPCV, onanyes

        You said: Ferraro said: "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position."

        I must retort: "If Obama were a white man, clinton would have been nuked in late '07, and would already be long gone, and ferraro would not be making nakedly racist rants now."

        Key phrase: "If Obama was a white man".

        For God's sake- Not a SINGLE REPUG played the race card!!!!!

        They will most certainly play the race card in the general election, but the fact is, clinton played the race card FIRST, and at this point, clinton is the SINGLE candidate playing the race card.

        Up until NOW, even the evil repugs have been better than that!

        But by your own admission, (and to be fair, the entire mainstream media's admission), your candidate went deeply racist by Ferraro proxy.

        I mean, is it possible to be more racist than writing: "If Obama were a white man"?

        I voted for Edwards on Super Tuesday even after he withdrew from the primaries because neither clinton or obama is worthy of my vote.

        But clinton's deliberate injection of mindless  racisim by Ferraro proxy, forces me to give money to obama, and forces me to vote against what HAD BEEN my second choice behind Edwards.

        Obama's MESSAGE is attracting voters, DESPITE his race, and by no means BECAUSE because of it.

        Uh, grl, how far down the clinton racist slope are you willing to go?

         

         

         

  •  I am a white woman (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    DelRPCV, jeffwtux, onanyes

    Yes, I have seen my fair share of discrimination in my life because of my gender. That being said, I'd bet a week's paycheck that if Barack Obama and I held a contest to see who could get a cab first, I'd win every time. I'd also bet the farm that he'd win the " let's see who gets thrown face first on the hood of the police car during a traffic stop " contest.

    Let's just for the sake of argument say that Archie Bunker in a pantsuit is right and Obama is getting preferential treatment. Knowing what it feels like to be shit on because of what I am, I can't begin to begrudge someone if they did finally get a break because of their race.

    I'm beginning to wonder if I stumbled into the Republican party by mistake. I mean, I thought Dems believe in affirmative action. The Clinton campaign has flown in the face of everything I hold dear as a Democrat. We should make here go stand in a corner of Congress with Lieberman.

    •  Wonderful saying by Lincoln (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      onanyes

      "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you
      want to test a man's character, give him power."

      Hillary is failing the power test. It's about
      character.

      In the Senate, where she has only a modicum of
      power, she behaves herself (more or less).

      But now, with fewer constraints on her actions,
      where she has the power and calls the shots in
      her campaign, we see hints of her true self.

      Imagine what she would stoop to as
      President; with more power and fewer constraints,
      with little other than her moral compass (don't
      laugh) to restrain her, and Bill egging her on
      from the sidelines.

      I want someone extraordinary as President: grace,
      intelligence, talent, judgement, wisdom, integrity.

      Above all, that person must pass the power
      test.

      Obama: high distinction.

      Clinton: failure.

  •  She is either a racist or being used by Clinton (0+ / 0-)
  •  So She's a Tremendously... (0+ / 0-)

    ...stupid and ignorant crook who is media savvy yet spews such crap?

    I reject and repudiate her.  She shouldn't just be drummed out of Hillary's campaign, but out of the party altogether.

    Support the Netroots Candidates! A VETO-PROOF majority in 2008!!!

    by InquisitiveRaven on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 03:40:36 AM PDT

  •  Raise your hand (0+ / 0-)

    if your grandmother is, like Ferraro, an eldery Democrat Italian-American women from Queens and has been saying what Ferraro's been saying for the better part of the last year.

    <raises hand>

    Yeah...not surprised by what she said.

  •  Thanks for the update. (0+ / 0-)

    She's a racist AND she thinks everyone who doesn't vote for Hillary is sexist. And Hillary will be firing her when?

  •  Taboo subject (0+ / 0-)

    The exit poll speaks for its self.  I agree with Ferraro.  But I'm not as brave as her to point it out.  I'm scare shitless to be call a racist.  I can't even say it to my Obama supporter friends let alone on national television.

    So my kudos to Geraldine Ferraro.  She's one brave soul.

    She's a diamond, strong, bright, and precious.

    by JoeySky18 on Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 08:27:53 AM PDT

    •  you're as wrong as she is (0+ / 0-)

      I can't believe that you're saying we should admire her for what she said.  When prominent people such as Geraldine Ferraro say things like that, it signals to other white people that that kind of "Archie Bunker" mentality is OK.  It is NOT OK.  In America, we're supposed to be better than that.  

      Sorry if you are like Ferraro and you feel like you're being attacked because you're white.  Yeah, I feel truly sorry for you if you do.

  •  Right On! (0+ / 0-)

    And what was inherently racist in Hillary's reminding people of the constitutional role of the President in the history of the Civil Rights movement? Nothing!

    Tell O'Reilly and Hannity that sooner, or later, even they will have to face Carl Williams. The Rights of The Least of Us, Are the Rights of the Rest of Us.

    by gwojtowy on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 02:55:36 PM PDT

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