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Just listening to Weekend Edition on Nice Polite Republicans. Ever so mild mannered Scot Simon gently questioned Sen. John Kyl on the Iraq war. Was it the right decision to invade?

Kyl, of course, thinks all of that is water under the bridge. He pointed out the he won his re-election by a whoppin TEN POINTS because of his Stong Support For St. John's Surge. And then he said, (paraphrased):

It's not hard to stand up for what you believe in... Americans in the latest Gallup Poll, by a margin of 2-1 support staying in Iraq until it's stable.

Now, this was news to me. A sea change in America's support of Iraq that I had heard of nowhere else. And Kyl emphasized that this was a JUST RELEASED poll.

Kyl, of course, repeated this statistic. And Simon did not challenge him (of course).

I suspected that Kyl, despite his strong, proven character, might be a lying sack of shit. I visited Gallup and got this:

3/13/08
Americans are as divided today as they have been since last September about the United States' troop presence in Iraq: 41% favor setting a timetable for gradually pulling out of Iraq while 35% want to maintain troops there until the situation improves. Only 18% of Americans favor an immediate withdrawal of all U.S. troops.

Chastened, I vowed never to question the Friend of St. John ever again.

http://www.gallup.com/...

Originally posted to HeavyJ on Sat Mar 15, 2008 at 08:05 AM PDT.

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Comment Preferences

  •  Simon didn't question him (6+ / 0-)

    Strange, given the repeated directness of the lie.

    I'd write a letter to NPR, but I know how much good that does.

  •  As an American and as a Democrat (0+ / 0-)

    As an American, I curse those who lead us into this monstrosity called the invasion of Iraq. There is no reason to expect the future in Iraq as far American - Iraqi relations and Iraqi - Iraqi relations to be any different than the past no matter how long we stay. The military option has run out.

    As a Democrat, the word Iraq is music to my ears. The best thing that ever happened for liberal progressives. Nothing could have better illustrated how ignorant, dishonest, disloyal, and disastrous conservative Republican leaders are to our county.
     
    It is now becoming clear that we are damaging our own economy by continuing to fund this debacle.

    Iraq will be the reason Republicans will find it increasingly difficult to get elected and reelected.

    We shall overcome, someday. Yes we can.

    by Sam Wise Gingy on Sat Mar 15, 2008 at 08:37:19 AM PDT

  •  I heard it too (1+ / 0-)
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    HeavyJ

    I wanted to scream at the radio!

    I especially hated his responses about whether or not it was a mistake to go to Iraq.  Like all Republicans, he says:

    "It's useless to argue this, because it's in the past.  Let's move forward."

    Every time I hear this, I am tempted to ask if Kyl believes, as his logic suggests, that trials and jails and punishing crimanals are useless, pointless exercises in futility.

    After all, what's the point of trying a crime or punishing a criminal?  By the time the trial happens, the crime is in the past and nothing can be done about it.

    Shows how Republicans feel about the small notions of accountability and consequences, don't ya think?

    Flag lapel pins? Since when did we become a nation of bling warriors?

    by NCJan on Sat Mar 15, 2008 at 08:38:13 AM PDT

  •  D-Day analogy (0+ / 0-)

    I don't if war supporters like Kyl are stupid or liars.  He tried to make an analogy with D-Day.  But, unlike Iraq, no one questioned whether we should have invaded Europe.  

    If Hillary Clinton wins, the Democratic Party loses.

    by Paleo on Sat Mar 15, 2008 at 11:04:37 AM PDT

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