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I was wondering how long it was going to take for Hillary to screw up Bitter-Gate. I figured it would take a couple of days... and here we go.

This YouTube shows Hillary throwing around the word "America" and "American" like a real Republican, but the more interesting bit is where she claims she's from a "working class family."

Blogger HardPolitik makes the point that this is laughable. As a quick glance at her Wikipedia entry shows,

Her father, Hugh Ellsworth Rodham ... operated a small but successful business in the textile industry. Her mother, Dorothy Emma Howell ... was a homemaker.

In other words, Hillary comes from owning class. She grew up in Park Ridge, IL and her parents drove Cadillacs. Her father owned a manufacturing company. She went to Wellesley, where she was a Young Republican.

Is this the only time she's claimed to be "working class," or is this another Tuzla?

(What's mildly surprising about "Bitter-gate" aside from the sheer fatuousness of it is how the Clintons and the media have latched onto the wrong talking point. You have to be a real elitist not to know that many people in Pennsylvania are bitter. To say that "people are rolling up their sleeves and getting to work," you have to never have experienced unemployment. Yep, a lot of people would love to get to work -- but they can't find it. There are other points Obama made in his statement that could be considered far more condescending; but I'm not interested in talking about that.)

But getting back to "working class": is this a single offhand lie "gaffe", or is this another Clinton false autobiographical talking point that needs to be brought to light. Is she going around Pennsylvania claiming to be "working class"? Can we hammer HRC on this one too?

Originally posted to Crafty Screenwriting on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 05:25 PM PDT.

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  •  Manufacturing (1+ / 0-)
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    karmsy

    I guess so.  Didn't he have a store that made and sold curtains for people's windows?

    •  Something like that. (3+ / 0-)
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      trashablanca, beltane, evdebs

      After the war, he began what was to prove to be a very successful career in the textile supply industry, starting with Rodrik Fabrics, a drapery fabric business located in Chicago's famous Merchandise Mart building.[2] He later opened a fabric print plant building on the North Side.[2]
      The Rodhams had three children: Hillary (born 1947), Hugh (born 1950), and Tony (born 1954). In 1950, they moved to the more affluent Chicago suburb of Park Ridge, Illinois.[2] The family still maintained ties to Scranton; all three children were christened there, and they spent summers at a cottage overlooking Lake Winola located in Overfield Township, Pennsylvania in the nearby Pocono Mountains,[4][2] that he and his father had built themselves in 1921.[5]
      Rodham was a staunch supporter of Barry Goldwater’s 1964 presidential campaign and remained a committed Republican until his death. Even after his daughter married Democrat Bill Clinton, he (according to Bill Clinton) "never gave up hope that his son-in-law would join him in the Republican Party and support a cut in the capital gains tax."[6]
      Hugh Rodham died in Little Rock, Arkansas, on April 7, 1993, and was buried in the Washburn Street Cemetery, Scranton, Pennsylvania, in a funeral that included a Presidential entourage of the Clintons

      Not very 'salt of the earth' if you ask me.

  •  Well, she probably said it at late at night when (4+ / 0-)
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    karmsy, beltane, psilocynic, shortgirl

    she was very tired.  Hell, give her a break - after all she's over sixty.

  •  I never knew the tidbit (2+ / 0-)
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    about HRC's time as a Young Republican at Wellesley.

    Well, I said and did things around that age I wouldn't care to be held accountable for now, either, come to think of it :)

  •  He has his own Wikipedia Entry as well: (4+ / 0-)

    After the war, he began what was to prove to be a very successful career in the textile supply industry, starting with Rodrik Fabrics, a drapery fabric business located in Chicago's famous Merchandise Mart building.[2] He later opened a fabric print plant building on the North Side.[2]

    Rodham was a staunch supporter of Barry Goldwater’s 1964 presidential campaign and remained a committed Republican until his death. Even after his daughter married Democrat Bill Clinton, he (according to Bill Clinton) "never gave up hope that his son-in-law would join him in the Republican Party and support a cut in the capital gains tax."[6]

    interesting...

    NetrootNews coming soon!

    by ksh01 on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 05:31:51 PM PDT

  •  Watch Out! (1+ / 0-)
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    bhumiya

    "Redneck Woman" is about to become Hillary's new campaign song.

    If you plant ice, you're gonna harvest wind- J.Garcia/R.Hunter

    by beltane on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 05:40:07 PM PDT

  •  Wrong. (1+ / 0-)
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    ...more interesting bit is where she claims she's from a "working class family."

    Uh, better check your facts.  
    The YouTube video clearly shows her saying "my father grew up in a working-class family."  

    You look a bit silly accusing Hilary of lying when your entire diary is predicated on a lie, doncha think?

    •  Well, I did hear her refer to herself and (0+ / 0-)

      a group of females in a town meeting last month as "middle class" which is very similar.

      •  no no (0+ / 0-)

        middle class is not similar to working class--the implication is quite different--not in income so much as class culture. I believe she really was middle class, not working class. ("Working class" people do not have higher education, or at least don't need it for their jobs, for example.)

        This is what's so silly, though. Hillary Clinton started out in the middle class. So what. She was still from a much more "ordinary" background than Bush, Romney, McCain, etc. Nothing about her REAL background would hurt her in running for president, and would on balance help. So why can't she just be who she is? Why go that extra step to exaggerate and make up stuff when what she is is enough?

        AND that is what people talk about when they say that Obama is comfortable in his skin--he's made peace with  who he is--while she seems to still be trying to make herself over into yet another person--as if who she started out as, which by most lights would be just fine, isn't quite good enough.

        Barack Obama will only become president if enough people pay attention, so pay attention, dammit!

        by JMS on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 06:32:41 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  "Hillary Clinton started out in the middle class" (0+ / 0-)

          may be true, but $109,000,000 income in seven years is hardly being "middle class" today which is what she stated she is. At the time I heard her say it, I LOL with my wife over Hillary's ridiculous comment.

      •  No it isn't the same (0+ / 0-)

        Most americans consider themselves middle class. Middle class is not the same as working class, even though everyone works....

        •  From Wikipedia under "working class": (0+ / 0-)

          Identification of a person as a member of the working class is often based on the nature of the work performed (blue collar/white collar), the income, and the extent of formal education. However, studies of social class generally include other traits, such as the basis for the person's access to the means of production, or amount of control that the person has over his work environment.

          Working-class people are generally paid wages, usually on a weekly or monthly basis. In popular American political discourse, medium-income skilled workers and tradespeople are termed "middle class", despite having minimal investment income, as are college-educated white-collar workers.

  •  I'm from Illinois, and Hillary's full of it.... (3+ / 0-)
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    Templar, shortgirl, MT in Austin

    Being from Illinois, I can assure you without a doubt that Park Ridge, Illinois is NOT a working class area.  It's a very Republican area, even today.  It's Henry Hyde's old district.  The northern suburubs of Chicago is where the rich people go.  The southern suburbs are where the blue collar types live.  

    Guess who lived on the south side of Chicago?  Barack Obama.  

  •  Nothing like a person who made over $100 Million (0+ / 0-)

    Nothing rings quite as sincere as a person who, along with her spouse, has made over $100 million in the past 7 years telling working people that they're doing fine.

    Did I mention that some of that money came from lobbying for trade agreements like the ones that resulted in lost jobs for working people? Hmmm. Must have slipped my mind.

    If you can't run a national campaign, how can you run a nation?

    by MT in Austin on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 06:15:08 PM PDT

  •  . (1+ / 0-)
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    Photobucket

    Having credibility when making an argument is the straightest path to persuasion.

    by SpamNunn on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 06:25:23 PM PDT

  •  I think what she meant... (0+ / 0-)

    was she was not wealthy and was ostensibly part of the middle class...I know it is not the same but to trash her for this is being picky...

    Obama/Richardson '08 Winning Change for America and the Democratic Party

    by dvogel001 on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 06:38:22 PM PDT

  •  And the fibs keep on coming ... (0+ / 0-)

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