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It is the same old game; the Okie-Doke.  Yes, Republican 527s are now attacking Obama.  If this latest example is any indication of what they have, well, we are going to enjoy this November!

To see an example of the same old game, follow me below the fold:

Well, it had to happen sooner of later:  the Republican 527's have started to fire at Barack Obama.

(For a discussion of 527's and PACs, go here)

The latest 527 is the so called "National Committee", which operates a site called ""  

The site is seeking funding to air this youtube video:

Oh no, there is violent crime in Chicago?  That's Obama's fault, right?  Oh wait, he is blamed for not voting to extend the death penalty to certain gang related crimes.  Yes, that was in 2001.

There is one problem:  Illinois suspended the death penalty in the January 2000 and it hasn't been reinstated since!

Illinois Gov. George Ryan on Monday imposed a moratorium on the state's death penalty. All lethal injections will be postponed indefinitely pending an investigation into why more executions have been overturned than carried out since 1977, when Illinois reinstated capital punishment.

"We have now freed more people than we have put to death under our system -- 13 people have been exonerated and 12 have been put to death," Ryan told CNN. "There is a flaw in the system, without question, and it needs to be studied."

So Obama voted against a measure that couldn't have done any good!  

If this is the best that the Republicans can do, we are going to enjoy this November.

I'll let BHO have the last word:

Update  It has been pointed out that there is a much better Kos Diary (by  Jeffrey Feldman) on this (and yes, I did look prior to posting; I just missed it)

Please read the  Jeffrey Feldman diary that I linked to.

Originally posted to onanyes on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 06:24 PM PDT.


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  •  I couldn't believe this (5+ / 0-)
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    LtdEdishn, majcmb1, JVolvo, palantir, Losty

    I am on Republican mailing lists, and I laughed out loud when I saw them shilling for this ad.

    Then again, this was being pushed by Newsmax, and perhaps this ad was designed more to raise money from the rubes than to be an effective attack ad.

    When liberals saw 9-11, we wondered how we could make the country safe. When conservatives saw 9-11, they saw an investment opportunity.

    by onanyes on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 06:26:10 PM PDT

  •  Obama should practice using (10+ / 0-)

    'Active Listening' to reframe the peculiarly framed questions he's likely to face.

    Questions like:

    Wallace, "You voted against a bill that would have protected your constituents against gang violence, why did you allow gangsters free reign to terrorize your neighborhood?"

    Obama, "You seem to be asking me why I voted against a bill that would have made minors elligible for execution, that would have targeted, improportionately, children of color in a state that had a proven record of convicting and placing on death row innocent citizens of this great nation. I ask you Chris how would you vote on that?"

  •  It should be noted as well that Ryan (6+ / 0-)

    Was a frickin Republican. The reason he imposed a moratorium on the death penalty, and commuted the sentences of all death row inmates before he left office, was because so many of them were exonerated with DNA evidence. Good for them you say. Not so much, many had already been put to death. Unless you can develop a fool proof system to ensure that no innocent person is put to death, you cannot in good conscience continue to impose capital punishment. The irony is that Obama didn't vote against the death penalty, he voted to keep the needle out of the arms of innocents. That's it GOP all gung ho about the right to life of innocent fetuses, but innocent adults... ah screw em.

    Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? - Patrick Henry

    by BetMyCitizenship on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 06:30:03 PM PDT

    •  It Is Very Important To Note Ryan's Republican (4+ / 0-)
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      JayBat, onanyes, JVolvo, MAORCA

      and he took a lot of heat from his party about this. But as he explained it the evidence that we were putting to death innocent people was so overwhelming he couldn't continue the practice in Illinois.

      Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

      by webranding on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 06:35:12 PM PDT

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      •  Not only that (4+ / 0-)
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        JayBat, onanyes, JVolvo, MAORCA
        but whether you were sentenced to death or not depended very little on the crime and its severity but on arbiritrary factors such as where you were tried, the colour of your skin, your economic status and even the fact that you were a lesbian. My sister worked on death-penalty cases in Chicago for a number of years and I recall either her or one of her colleagues telling me about THAT case. There was no consistent, equitable distribution of these sentences.

        We're retiring Steve LaTourette (R-Family Values for You But Not for Me) and sending Judge Bill O'Neill to Congress from Ohio-14:

        by anastasia p on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 06:52:22 PM PDT

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      •  Just for giggles let's also note that (1+ / 0-)
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        Ryan may have just been trying to make the prison term he's now serving easier on him. He was prosecuted by our favorite son in IL, the illustrious US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald. His call on the death penalty thing was the right one though. The moratorium is still in effect, but we are wasting ridiculous amounts of money in IL seeking the death penalty, when in all likelihood we will not execute another person ever. We are the last civilized country in the world with capital punishment and without socialized medicine. Seems the right wingers aren't pro-life after all. They're pro-death.

        Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? - Patrick Henry

        by BetMyCitizenship on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 07:09:03 PM PDT

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  •  Much more here (4+ / 0-)
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    onanyes, JVolvo, palantir, MAORCA

    about the people behind the 527.

    As well as Obama's reasoning behind his vote:

    No extra penalty for gang association

    Most people like the idea of a politician who votes for individual rights, but the fact that Obama could do so and still maintain the respect of law enforcement shows his political skills. Obama voted against a proposal to criminalize contact with a gang for any convicts on probation or out on bail. In 2001, Obama opposed making gang activity eligible for the death penalty. "There's a strong overlap between gang affiliation and young men of color.... I think it's problematic for them to be singled out as more likely to receive the death penalty for carrying out certain acts than are others who do the same thing." In 1999, Obama opposed mandatory adult prosecution for youth who discharge a firearm nea a school, declaring, "There is really no proof or indication that automatic transfers and increased penalties and adult penalties for juvenile offenses have, in fact, proven to be more effective in reducing juvenile crime or cutting back on recidivism."

  •  pretty sad if thats what they got. That isn't (2+ / 0-)
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    palantir, MAORCA

    even a softball they tossed.  That's local community politics, not national politics.  Stand up and come play with the big boys.  My edit-bay is "Fired-Up and ready to go.

    I'm looking forward to the Gen Election.  Game On!

    My Voice, Your Voice, Our Voice

    by ourhispanicvoices on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 06:31:40 PM PDT

  •  I want to see a powerful counter-punch. (4+ / 0-)
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    onanyes, JVolvo, MAORCA, AussieJo

    Being measured in counter-attacks on a fellow Democrat is one thing.  Obama should NAIL this 527 and turn another batch of lemons into lemonade.  It'd be so easy with this weak ad.

    "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." Matthew 10:16

    by Setrak on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 06:34:00 PM PDT

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