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John "McSame" McCain - running like it's 2004.

(CNN) — John McCain said Friday that "it’s clear who Hamas wants to be the next president of the United States" — the second time in as many weeks that his campaign has referenced positive remarks by Ahmed Yousef, a member of that group, about Barack Obama.

On Friday, the presumptive Republican nominee was asked about the Hamas leader’s comments on a campaign conference call with bloggers.

"...I think it's very clear who Hamas wants to be the next president of the United States," said McCain. "So apparently has [Sandanista leader] Danny Ortega and several others. I think that people should understand that I will be Hamas's worst nightmare...If Senator Obama is favored by Hamas I think people can make judgments accordingly."

A week ago, the Arizona senator’s campaign sent supporters a fundraising e-mail that said Hamas approved of Obama’s foreign policy vision, and is hoping for his victory this fall.

We saw the same tactic used by Bush-Cheney '04 against John Kerry, when the right-wing noise machine claimed that al-Qaeda wanted Kerry to win the White House.

McCain claimed last week that he wanted to run a campaign "that is worthy of the people we seek to serve."  It's apparent from McCain's cheap fear-mongering and distortions that he doesn't think much of the people he seeks to serve at all.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:22 AM PDT.

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  •  People ain't fallin' for this shit again... (11+ / 0-)

    not this time.

    Watch some of those Obama in 30-seconds on Move-On and you'll see why McCain ain't got a prayer.

    I am a just a regular person, trying to save my Constitution and my country.

    by David Kroning on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:25:08 AM PDT

    •  I wish I could share your optimism. (11+ / 0-)

      However, people have been proving their gullibility ever since the city-states of Ur, Niniveh, and Babylon.

      Omne malum nascens facile opprimitur, inveteratum fit plerumque robustius. - Cicero

      by Dauphin on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:28:19 AM PDT

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      •  I look at the microcosm of my... (9+ / 0-)

        immediate family.

        All rabid Bush supporters in 2000 and 2004.  The majority now support Obama.

        Bush's likeability rating is about at 17%--and John McCain is already seen as his clone.

        I am a just a regular person, trying to save my Constitution and my country.

        by David Kroning on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:30:52 AM PDT

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      •  I Always Knew (6+ / 0-)

        McCain was a lying fraud.

        •  Sure, but the problem with people is that (5+ / 0-)

          individually, we're perfectly sensible, but as a statistical phenomenon we're utterly bonkers.

          Omne malum nascens facile opprimitur, inveteratum fit plerumque robustius. - Cicero

          by Dauphin on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:33:32 AM PDT

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        •  McCain has people inside Hamas? (6+ / 0-)

          Must, if he has all the latest info on their wishes.

          •  I'm afraid (5+ / 0-)
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            that there is an echo chamber effect here regarding Obama.  It happened in 2004 where anyone raising objections or differing from the "BUSH IS TOAST" diary avalanche was trollrated into oblivion and screamed at by MSOC and others.  

            This sort of attack on Obama is extremely effective with key demographics and we shouldn't kid ourselves otherwise.  We are going to have to respond vigorously.  

            I am a member of a reform synagogue and believe me, Obama is in trouble with people who should be supporting him there because of this sort of crap.  It worries me.  

            Please don't thank me for my "concern".  I voted for Obama, I volunteered for him in his senate race here in Illinois, I marched in local parades with him and his family.  I think he's the best shot at winning.  But this sort of stuff is very very damaging and has to be addressed with more than "McCain won't win."

            •  I think you are right... (3+ / 0-)

              We need to fight this shit head on.

              -6.5, -7.59. John McSame - running for Bush's third term. We can't afford it.

              by DrWolfy on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:14:58 AM PDT

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              •  I don't (4+ / 0-)

                think there is any choice.  And the fact that Obama is trying to run a "Different kind" of campaign, while appreciated, doesn't change the fact that the GOP will run the exact same kind of campaign that has worked so well for them in the past.

                I am not happy with some of the things I'm seeing, but I'm not going to pretend I don't see them.  A lot of Jewish voters are troubled by Obama.  I think it's extremely absurd, especially given Obama's bent over backwards to assure AIPAC he's right behind them (I'm a lot further to the left than Obama and wish that an actual balanced approach to the I/P issue was possible in American politics).  

                My synagogue has an associate pastor who is openly gay and who lives with her partner and their child.  So we are not talking about a remotely conservative place.  But Obama is about as popular there as he is on Little Green Footballs.  I have some fears that there is a blatent racial component at work.  The chasm between the African American and Jewish communities is troubling.  But Hillary is definitely favored and there are people who are simply uncomfortable with Obama for a variety of absurd, even intangible (or unspoken) reasons and this sort of crap is just the excuse they are looking for to sit it out or even vote McCain.

                Here's what I think Obama should do: Come out hard talking about the IRA and  how Bill Clinton and his team used DIALOGUE to create a legitimate political alternative to violence in the north of Ireland.  Make parallels with what might be possible in Palestine.  Most people are clueless about Hamas, anyway.  It has a military wing (Izzidine Al Qassam) and a political wing, just like the republican movement in Ireland did.  The political wing provides all kinds of social services that are not available elsewhere, and since there is pretty much zero hope available to the people of Gaza, it looks pretty good.  Fight this crap with facts and fight hard.

                •  While finding our own allies, (2+ / 0-)
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                  outside the campaign, who can sling the s#*t back at the other side.  If Obama will be attacked with the most distant of "associations," the right wing has plenty of not-at-all-distant ones that would scare the willies out of the general public.  Time to trot those out!  Keep it away from the candidate, but don't be so damned delicate!  There's too much at stake to play nice this time.

          •  Argumentum ad Vericundium. (3+ / 0-)

            (Actually, if I knew any Latin, I should use the phrase that means argument from stupidity, instead of expertise.) The statement that Hamas wants a particular candidate to win presupposes that their choise is dictated solely by a desire to enhance their own prospects; whereas a Hamas endorsement of Obama would mean either they're too spiteful to see how much the Bush administration has helped their cause; or they've matured to the point where they put the region's long term interest ahead of their own partisan goals.

            Osama bin Laden has shown all the generalship of a little boy throwing rocks at a wasp nest. If Gore was President, he'd have been caught and brought to trial already.

            The leaders of Hamas haven't shown much more wisdom.

            A more accurate moniker might be... the Loch Ness Social Anxiety Creature. -Satchel, Get Fuzzy.

            by Judge Moonbox on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:58:09 AM PDT

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            •  Just as a context for Hamas (1+ / 0-)
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              Many of its leaders have been killed; many of its legislators are imprisoned; much of the leadership that remains is exiled. Hamas tends to rule by committee which makes it hard to kill one man and stop a movement but at the same time such a structure is unwieldy at times when communications are difficult or there are rapid changes in the leadership.

              Compare Hamas with the American Revolutionists in the first two years of the revolt. Except for some lucky breaks, the same could be said of our Founding Fathers within context.

              On the other hand, I doubt any of the presidential candidates are really aware of which militias are associated with which group or party.

              •  McCain especially unaware. (0+ / 0-)

                On the other hand, I doubt any of the presidential candidates are really aware of which militias are associated with which group or party.

                I doubt that Obama and Clinton would have stumbled on the difference between Sunni al Qaeda and Shiite Iran the way Sen. Bomb Bomb Iran did.

                A more accurate moniker might be... the Loch Ness Social Anxiety Creature. -Satchel, Get Fuzzy.

                by Judge Moonbox on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 08:05:29 AM PDT

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            •  Argumentum ad ignorantiam (0+ / 0-)

              ;-)

              I imagine, Hamas is/would be in favor of an open mind in the head of a U.S. President, whether possessed by Obama, any Democrat, any Republican any Body!  Hell, just a sentient being in the Oval Office again will be astoundingly refreshing!!

              (Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes)

          •  If Hamas and Ortega and Hugo Chavez are for Obama (1+ / 0-)
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            that's three MORE good reasons to vote for him!

            McCain makes a mistake to assume that all Americans share his particular villains.  They don't.

            •  I don't think that many Americans (2+ / 0-)
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              support Hamas and Ortega and Chavez - but I still think Obama could turn that "worst nightmare" comment against McCain.  Haven't we had enough of meddling in the domestic politics of other countries for now?  What does "worst nightmare" even meand? Are we going to war with Syria, Nicaragua, and Venezuela too now?  Great campaign strategy there.

          •  With his Hagee connections (1+ / 0-)
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            he does have extensive connections with the Tribulationist Christian movement in Israel, the same ones who moved a huge cornerstone next to the Temple Mount and announced their intentions to tear down the Mosque of the Dome and start the Third Temple.

            For a read on McCain and Israel:
            http://www.prospectsforpeace.com/...

            •  There's a large portion of the Jewish community.. (0+ / 0-)

              ...that are big buddies with the Christian right.  Do they realize that the Christian right is just using them to bring on the end of the world, an end where unconverted Jews burn for an eternity in hell?

              •  From reading the Jewish and Israeli press (1+ / 0-)
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                it seems more American Jews are in bed with the Tribulationists than Israelis. Since the Israelis are literally on the firing line, they are much more sensitive to actions and statements that could exacerbate the situation. After all, the Left in Israel remains a viable political force.

      •  What do you know, dauphin, of Babylon (0+ / 0-)

        Nineveh or Ur?

    •  Don't assume that people won't fall for this crap (11+ / 0-)

      again.  Obama needs to hit back hard on this crap.

      •  It's worked many times, could work again. (3+ / 0-)
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        Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

        by DefendOurConstitution on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:37:54 AM PDT

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      •  Don't assume they won't ... (0+ / 0-)

        McCain is throwing all kinds of shit against the wall to see what will stick ...

        And here is someone that thought the 100 years in Iraq comment was unfair.

        Jeremiah Wright for President!

        by Bronxist on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:47:15 AM PDT

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        •  The 100 years in Iraq was a bit of hyperbole. (2+ / 0-)
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          However, it was an honest expression of the original goal of redeploying U.S. military assets from Western Europe to southwest Asia where they would find it easier to contain and "stabilize" the region--i.e. keep and eye and radar and missiles targeted on Russia and China.  Ever since Vietnam, the U.S. military, mainly the Air Force, has wanted to have bases on the Asian mainland.  The matter seems increasingly critical because Russia is, indeed, "re-emerging" and China is, indeed, "rising" and Japan still resists hosting our nukes and South Korea is making nice with North Korea and may be fixin' to ask us to leave, and Diego Garcia won't be able to be used for refueling and Guam is too far away and not big enough and the Philippines told us to go away and Indonesia doesn't want us and India not either.
          North Africa is an option. But Somalia was a bad experience and Egypt has agreed to join up with the Central Asian Nuclear Weapons Free Zone.  Which means that the transit of our nuclear weapons through the Suez Canal might soon not be welcome.  
          See, our nukes are a real problem.  They're what give us the mantle of invincibility but many of our "friends" don't want us to wear it when we come 'round.

          How do you tell a predator from a protector? The predator will eat you sooner rather than later.

          by hannah on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:15:07 AM PDT

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    •  By "people" (6+ / 0-)

      I know you mean those other than bobblehead pundits, TM and te stoopid.  I'm waiting to see the follow up from Rev. Wright's interview with Moyers -- since the idiots on cable teevee seem to have heard only 10 seconds of the 55 minute program.

      My faith in the Constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total. Barbara Jordan 1974

      by gchaucer2 on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:29:15 AM PDT

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    •  Hopefully, those videos will reach a wide (4+ / 0-)

      audience and not just a small circle of internet users.

    •  In spirit of optimism, though, here is (4+ / 0-)
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      a projection of McCain's campaign:

      Omne malum nascens facile opprimitur, inveteratum fit plerumque robustius. - Cicero

      by Dauphin on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:35:18 AM PDT

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    •  oh yes they will, over and over again (3+ / 0-)
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      don't make the inexcusable mistake of overestimating the average American

      We're shocked by a naked nipple, but not by naked aggression.

      by Lepanto on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:38:24 AM PDT

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    •  Bin Laden Endorses McCain (7+ / 0-)

      Where is the Obama campaign? Pivot Guys, Pivot!!!

      "Second verse Same as the First" McCain will be the best thing that ever happened to Bin Laden. He gets to fight his Jihad...get all this great press and raise money to feed his war from those who hate our policies.

      Bin Laden loses if Obama or Clinton win the White House.

      Osama Bin Laden Endorses McCain

      He shit on me, then slapped me for stinking!

      by Arkydem on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:42:05 AM PDT

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      •  Amen Bruh (2+ / 0-)

        This is the message we need to hit the Republicans on: Seven years later, Osama bin Laden is still at large.  You can be sure bin Laden is hoping for another republican: four more years of hiding in a cave and watching us depelete our money and armies a thousand miles away.

        You can count Bush's international victories on zero fingers.  Why should he get a third term?

    •  Oh yeah they are falling for it (7+ / 0-)

      yesterday I met a 40 something nurse who thought Obama was a muslim (told me she read it on line & heard it on tv). Didn't know McSame was 71 but thought much younger. Didn't know Barack was multi-racial etc etc. Much of the public isn't listening except to the sound bites of our news spewers, we have a big job ahead of us to EDUCATE all we meet.
      my STIMULUS CHECK goes direct to Barack

    •  McCain can't tell Sunni from Shia' (3+ / 0-)
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      and he can't tell Hamas from the al Aqsa Brigades. So he thinks Tehran is supporting the Mahdi Army while in reality their client parties are SCIRI and Dawa (who are the same people we are fighting to keep in power) and much of the "actions" against Israel are carried out by al Aqsa and other militias who are associated with Fatah, whom we armed in Gaza so they could pull a coup against Hamas.
      It is ironic to watch us try to deal with Abbas and punish Hamas when much of the violence can be linked to Fatah sponsored militias.

      Someone send McCain a scorecard; otherwise he will be in the ninth inning waiting for the pitcher to kick a field goal.

      •  I love it! (1+ / 0-)
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        Someone send McCain a scorecard; otherwise he will be in the ninth inning waiting for the pitcher to kick a field goal.

        Ha!

        Then we should forward the scorecard to the rest of the country. Sadly, he doesn't think much of the people he expects to vote for him because they've voted against him so many times due to the very tactics he's using now.

        "...with Liberty and Justice for All."

        by cshardie on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 08:44:21 AM PDT

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    •  Obama's response should be simple... (2+ / 0-)
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      I would say it is very clear who Hamas wants to be the next president.  Over the last eight years of the Bush foreign policy, Hamas has gone from a marginal terrorist group to the elected government of the Palestinian territories.

      The Bush/McCain approach to foreign policy has emboldened our enemies and left our strongest ally in the region in a more precarious state.

      This sort of fear-mongering is not only offensive to the intelligence of the American people, but reflects the same failed way of thinking our government has suffered from over the last eight years.

    •  So does every other country (0+ / 0-)

      Why isn't McCain mentioning that the world press also looks favorably on Senator Obama.  They see him as the only one who won't "shoot first and ask questions later".  

      World opinion should also be a part of our presidential politics albeit a small part.  

  •  I'm pretty sure at least one person (14+ / 0-)

    who has committed a murder has supported John McCain.

    Therefore, by his logic, Murderers want John McCain to be president.

    John McCain: 4 more years of war, economic disaster, inadequate healthcare, and anti-choice supreme court appointments.

    by smash artist on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:26:12 AM PDT

    •  Corporate Media Willing Enabler (2+ / 0-)
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      What Obama is up against is the one-two punch of McCain or a surrogate trotting out a lie, smear, misleading statement or or fabrication, then the media giving it constant uncritical airplay.

      Obama needs the party leaders to jump in immediatley in these occurrences and callit for what it is .......garbage.

      Well I've been from Tucson to Tucumcari... Tehachapi to Tonopah--Lowell George

      by frandor55 on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:36:28 AM PDT

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      •  Like the NC ad. (2+ / 0-)
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        The ad the North Carolina Republican Party trotted out is getting lots of free publicity--like the Swift Boat Veterans for the AWOL ad got--from the media's constant replay.

        When McCain denounces it as "not the party of Reagan," I have to ask, when did he get out of Hanoi Hilton? I don't care to have my memory refreshed about Reagan's campaign ads, but I can't forget the ads the party ran when he was stepping down--Willie Horton, etc. And then Irving Kristol (William's father, who had been a major neoconservative figure back then) charged that Democrats who told the truth about the negative campaigning were calling the people stupid.

        Then we have the Mainstream Media-Republican Complex attacks on Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Max Cleland, and John Kerry. If McCain really got out of POW camp in the 1970's, why doesn't he know about all this?

        A more accurate moniker might be... the Loch Ness Social Anxiety Creature. -Satchel, Get Fuzzy.

        by Judge Moonbox on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:09:38 AM PDT

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        •  don't forget Jesse Helm's "white hands" (3+ / 0-)
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          ad when he ran against Harvey Gantt, implying that job loss and unemployment was due to affirmative action.

          •  That diverted attention from GHWB recession. (0+ / 0-)

            We should have charged that the real reason Mr. Hands was rejected was because of the recession that year.

            Helms still needed to mislead Black voters about their rights that year. There was some last minute jobbery that kept a lot of Blacks from the polls. My memory's hazy on the details.

            A more accurate moniker might be... the Loch Ness Social Anxiety Creature. -Satchel, Get Fuzzy.

            by Judge Moonbox on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 08:10:16 AM PDT

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    •  And the name is: (2+ / 0-)
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      George Walker Bush.

      A more accurate moniker might be... the Loch Ness Social Anxiety Creature. -Satchel, Get Fuzzy.

      by Judge Moonbox on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:40:34 AM PDT

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    •  Not to mention all those macho guys (1+ / 0-)
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      who beat their children and burn them with cigarettes.

      How do you tell a predator from a protector? The predator will eat you sooner rather than later.

      by hannah on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:17:31 AM PDT

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  •  McCain has nothing else on which to run (9+ / 0-)

    he is for staying in Iraq, extending the Bush tax cuts, opposes the Webb - Hagel GI Bill proposal because it might mean some people have better opportunities so they don't stay in the military beyond initial service,  etc. etc. etc.  -  in other words, a whole lot of positions that the American people reject.  He has to try to make Obama unelectable or else he will risk getting blown out.

    Those who can, do. Those who can do more, TEACH! If impeachment is off the table, so is democracy

    by teacherken on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:28:02 AM PDT

    •  He also voted against the Fair Pay Act (0+ / 0-)

      Does he know he is running for President?

      •  Shows reality of "Judicial Activism" rhetoric. (0+ / 0-)

        To put the Lilly Ledbetter case in perspective, imagine that a state has a 20 year statute of limitations on murder. A serial killer is caught in the act of committing his last murder 21 years after his first. Would anyone dare say that the statute of limitations clock started ticking at the first?

        The Ledbetter case shows a court rubberstamping a wrong by "Judicially legislating" that the statute of limitations on pay discrimination begins at the moment of employment (of from the date the inequality started, in such cases). Any Republican who was sincere in opposing judicial activism would want to overturn that decision. McCain is not among them.

        A more accurate moniker might be... the Loch Ness Social Anxiety Creature. -Satchel, Get Fuzzy.

        by Judge Moonbox on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:48:44 AM PDT

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      •  He's a Republican. (1+ / 0-)
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        He believes that some people are naturally superior and some people are naturally inferior and anything that demonstrates that (like low pay for women) is a good thing.  Maintaining the natural order is important; that's how mother nature wants it.

        How do you tell a predator from a protector? The predator will eat you sooner rather than later.

        by hannah on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:20:42 AM PDT

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    •  Right (6+ / 0-)

      And that is why it is going to get really, really ugly.

      We all know, particularly if we do our part, there will be HUGE numbers of new voters.  By the end of September, Obama will be ahead in enough states to win it and there will be increases in Democrats everywhere.

      That is time when "Hussein" becomes prominent, Wright is repeated in a continuous loop, Bill Ayres gets mentioned between those clips of Wright, etc.

      It is going to be very, very ugly.

      It is why I am wearing an Obama button now.  I want my good white neighbors to see that Obama's support is more than just African Americans.

      A former student, a clerk, noted the button yesterday. I asked him who is supporting.  He told me all three are good people.  The only thing I could tell him was that if you liked the last eight years then vote for McCain.

      Wer kämpft, kann verlieren. Wer nicht kämpft, hat schon verloren. Bertolt Brecht

      by MoDem on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:38:56 AM PDT

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  •  This is Rove speaking folks (5+ / 0-)

    The GOP know that they lose on the issues so they instead attack the person on other crap.

    Believe me the attack on Hillary would have been much WORSE.

    Obama needs an "attack dog" type of VP.  Although I like Kaine, Webb IMO would be the best attack dog around.  He always looks like he wants to pick a fight.

  •  I SAW THIS (17+ / 0-)

    AND PLEASE include the fact that Wolf Blitzer concluded this segment by saying that The Situation Room would continue to follow this story of Obama's "alledged ties to Hamas".

    I fell out when I heard Wolf say this and I call SHAME!

  •  McCain's a Loser and a fool (4+ / 0-)

    How absurd. He's resorting to dirty politics as usual. Obama will bring peace to the middle east...McCain more war that can only be supported by a draft.  

  •  mccain is a fucking joke. (3+ / 0-)
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  •  And it's very clear (11+ / 0-)

    "...I think it's very clear who Hamas wants to be the next president of the United States," said McCain.

    Who Osama Bin Laden et al want to be the next POTUS.  

    It's you, John.  They love people like you, because you're not reasonable.  Just like them.

    •  Not just unreasonable (5+ / 0-)

      John McCain presents Osama with the best hope for following al Qaeda's plan to bankrupt the US by dragging them into unwinnable wars--just like they helped bankrupt the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.

      Not all who wander are lost. J. R. R. Tolkien

      by NCJan on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:35:24 AM PDT

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    •  Not so sure about Osama (2+ / 0-)
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      But surely sure of the CorpMedia, Big Oil, Big Banking, Big Pharm, the NeoCon WackJob establishment, numerous heinous War Criminals, Mass Murderers and Constitution Shredders , as well as of course the all-powerful and intricately assembled Military Industrial Complex.

      They all most definitely want McCain to be the next president.

    •  Wonder if John McCain is going to (0+ / 0-)

      get us proof that Bin Ladin was not a CIA creation.
      Can he prove that the CIA didn't introduce car bombs to Afghanis and Iraqis?
      Is a McCain Administration going to prohibit clandestine operations by the CIA that violate the laws of other nations?  Is McCain going to prohibit the kidnapping of foreign nationals?
      Is McCain going to comply with rulings by the International Court of Justice?  Will he honor the findings of the war crime tribunal on Iraq?

      How do you tell a predator from a protector? The predator will eat you sooner rather than later.

      by hannah on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:28:39 AM PDT

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  •  Not just 'more of the same' (2+ / 0-)
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    More of 'more of the same'.

    Incoming...it's a flying bookbag

    by jhecht on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:30:44 AM PDT

  •  More importantly, Al Qaeda supports the GOP (5+ / 0-)

    As they would keep larger military forces in the middle east, thus continuing to provoke anti-west Arab resentments and strengthening their ability to recruit.

    An invasion of Iran would be even better, as it would defocus American attention on Al Qaeda even further and radicalize millions of Shiites who would happily fight the common enemy.  Not to mention a bunch of Shiites would be killed in the process.

    The political wing of Hamas won a democratic election in Palestine.  Thank God that - historically - right-thinking politicians like George Mitchell had the good sense to talk with Sinn Fein, the political wing of the IRA, in order to achieve a lasting peace.

    We should have the same attitude towards Hamas, recognizing its political legitimacy while consistently condemning violence.

    This is however unlikely to happen in an AIPAC-dominated Washington D.C.

    Ultimately, Hamas's military wing is not a security issue for the United States.  It is only an issue for Israel, and it is therefore an abomination that so much high-level political energy in the U.S. is wasted focusing on them vs. Al Qaeda - which continues as a vibrant and growing threat.

    We're pro-choice on everything! - Libertarian slogan

    by CA Libertarian on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:31:33 AM PDT

    •  Vote was protest against Fatah corruption. (0+ / 0-)

      The political wing of Hamas won a democratic election in Palestine.  Thank God that - historically - right-thinking politicians like George Mitchell had the good sense to talk with Sinn Fein, the political wing of the IRA, in order to achieve a lasting peace.
      We should have the same attitude towards Hamas, recognizing its political legitimacy while consistently condemning violence.

      We should have learned that the vote for Hamas was a protest against the perceived corruption of Fatah. If Abbas had cleaned up, the Palestinian people would have stayed on his side.

      Now, with Hamas blowing up the wall between Gaza and Egypt and things like that, many Palestinians feel that only Hamas is on their side; and deeming it politically incorrect to negotiate with them is a huge mistake.

      A more accurate moniker might be... the Loch Ness Social Anxiety Creature. -Satchel, Get Fuzzy.

      by Judge Moonbox on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:34:53 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Abbas could not have cleaned up (0+ / 0-)

        Israel spent the declining years of Arafat's life diminishing his role in the ordinary governance of Palestinian matters. You may remember he spent most of his final years holed up in his offices, surrounded by Israeli snipers. Then when he died, Israel refused his request as to burial site. At each juncture they tried to demean him.

        At the same time he died allegations were circulating that he had used PLO offices and positions to make himself a billionaire. There is no doubt that there was widespread corruption and graft among the PA and that much aid that was intended for the people was diverted to private coffers.

        At the same time, Abbas is now seen as a Quisling by many Palestinians. His complicity with the Israelis has eroded popular support to the extent that the IDF is keeping him in office in the WB. Otherwise Hamas would have control of the WB as well as Gaza.

        Most recent Palestinian TV has covered the fuel shortage in Gaza whereby people are returning to equine power and the shoe shortage where there are not enough shoes or repair materials for the population in Gaza. Not since the French, has anyone viewed shoes as the tools of revolution. (the sabots thrown into the workings of French industry by striking workers)    

  •  McCain hearts Hamas (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Caoimhin Laochdha, Judge Moonbox

    Why doesn't someone ask McCain why he cares so much about what Hamas thinks?

    What are they--the new kool kids in his high school?

    Not all who wander are lost. J. R. R. Tolkien

    by NCJan on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:32:06 AM PDT

  •  George W. Bush thought we were stupid (5+ / 0-)

    But we were either scared, or complacent.

    McCain is trying to play the same script, but now large portions of the populace are awake, and ANGRY.

    John McCain: A Bush by any other name still stinks the same.

    by slippytoad on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:32:13 AM PDT

    •  George Bush KNEW most of "U.S." were stupid (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      kestrel9000

      It's one of the few things he got right and the 2004 election showed just how correct that assessment was.

      He just ramped up the fear for good measure.

      McCain is following the GOP play book. Exploit fear, exploit ignorance, exploit prejudice, and oh year, did I mention the exploit fear part?

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      sláinte,

      cl

      Religion is like sodomy: both can be harmless when practiced between consenting adults but neither should be imposed upon children.

      by Caoimhin Laochdha on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:43:13 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  He does not have any ties to Hamas (5+ / 0-)

    This is a bunch of bullshit. John McCain will rue the day he even tried to swiftboat Barack Obama. I mean it's absolutely ridiculous to try to connect him to Hamas.

    •  How Obama Responds To McCain's Slur (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      jds1978, Judge Moonbox

      How the Obama campaign and the Democratic party respond to McCain's gutter remark will show if they have it together enough to win in Novemeber.

      This must answered quickly and definitively and attacking McCain's character should be part of the response

      Well I've been from Tucson to Tucumcari... Tehachapi to Tonopah--Lowell George

      by frandor55 on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:43:09 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  A despicable tactic: (4+ / 0-)

    Sure, even enemies usually prefer a sensible opponent with whom you can reach an accord. No-one wants a psychotic militarist with anger management problems in power in any country - those sods can destabilise half the world before their morning cup.

    But, then again, Republicans have thus far reliably shown that war is far preferable to peace to them - as long as they need not actually serve, mind you.

    Which just serves to demonstrate that Hamas has more sense (and more of a desire for peace) than McCain. Which is saying something.

    Omne malum nascens facile opprimitur, inveteratum fit plerumque robustius. - Cicero

    by Dauphin on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:32:30 AM PDT

  •  Almost in the same breath... (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    gobucky, Caoimhin Laochdha, Joe Beese

    ... he relit the fuse on the Ayers.  You know the unrepentant terrorists that are just waiting for the nigra to get into the White House to start killing independent voters.
     I guess this is a glimpse of McCain, the "civil" politician.

    The Truth has a distinctly Liberal bias...

    by moondancing on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:32:41 AM PDT

  •  More BS from some w/no qualifcations (5+ / 0-)

    Not just fearmongering, but fearmongering from Republican-Americans with no qualifications to step into the national security arena. How long do we have to accept Democrats who refuse to state the obvious and challenge the media and GOP on the false narratives of the incompetents with no right to discuss matters far above their pay-grade.

    Republicans are - & George Bush and John McCain are perfect examples of - military and national security illiterates. They do not understand what security is or how to achieve it or maintain it. The Hamas and middles eastern comments by McCain are just one more thing that bears this out.

    John McCain has NO military/national security qualifications.

    I repeat: John McCain has NO military qualifications. He is 71 years-old and despite all those years of military experience and study and opportunity to learn, he has acquired no qualifications to handle matters of national security.

    He has been wrong about every major (and virtually every minor) military and national security policy matter ever presented to him. He.just.doesn't.get.it.

    Bush along with John McCain & the Republican party, have relied on acts of world-wide violence, militarism and criminality in place of national security policy, foreign policy and plain general historical understanding of the problems they exploit rather than tackle.

    They have eviscerated U.S. national security and thrown away opportunities that cannot be negotiated back, earned back or bought back. John McCain is promising more of the same national security incompetence.

    sláinte,

    cl

    Religion is like sodomy: both can be harmless when practiced between consenting adults but neither should be imposed upon children.

    by Caoimhin Laochdha on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:32:47 AM PDT

    •  You mean losing five planes.. (4+ / 0-)

      ...and graduating from the Academy ONLY because daddy was an admiral(sixth from last)isn't the resume of a military genius?  Who knew?
       His bonafides as a wife abuser are in order.

      The Truth has a distinctly Liberal bias...

      by moondancing on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:40:48 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  although not a great display of acumen . . . (3+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        gobucky, RantNRaven, Judge Moonbox

        . . I was really thinking about everything he has said and done and proved to be deadly and pathetically wrong about during his entire pubic career.

        He doesn't understand military and national security priorities, policy or how to integrate them with an overall national policy approach that can make us safer, more civil, less bankrupt and more respected.  He just doesn't understand the individual components and he is a walking talking clusterfuck of policy malpractice in everything he has ever done.

        The media refuse to acknowledge that fact and the Dems are, so far, not doing to well and honestly presenting the level of his failures to the American people. He has been a socially promoted political idiot his entire career and he needs to be held account, finally this year, for this.

        sláinte,

        cl

        Religion is like sodomy: both can be harmless when practiced between consenting adults but neither should be imposed upon children.

        by Caoimhin Laochdha on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:50:13 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Hmmm I wonder if there will be a swiftboating (0+ / 0-)

        effort against McCain based on that kind of stuff. That would be a little Machiavellian.

        It's the constitution, stupid

        by CTMET on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:56:41 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  So far, he's demonstrate far more qualification (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        kestrel9000

        than McCain. It's hardly close given McCain's track record.

        The disparity between Obama's qualifications, based on judgment and temperament alone, is something McCain could not bridge with another 71 years of trying.

        McCain was in Vietnam for chrissakes and he STILL doesn't understand what happened there and why.

        sláinte,

        cl

        Religion is like sodomy: both can be harmless when practiced between consenting adults but neither should be imposed upon children.

        by Caoimhin Laochdha on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:04:39 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  what qualifications do you suggest? (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        R Rhino from CT4

        a PhD in foreign affairs like Condie or broad experience in  dealing with foreign governments like Perles or experience at the UN like Bolton or experience with the World Bank like Wolfowitz or military training like McCain and GWB?

        What qualifications does someone need in foreign matters?

  •  This dog no longer hunts, sir. (3+ / 0-)

    I think it's very clear who everyone wants to be the next president of the United States.  And it ain't you Senator McCain.

  •  Turn this around (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Caoimhin Laochdha

    Ask McCain if Hamas see Obama has the only Pres. that can help bring Peace to the region why is that a bad thing ? If Hamas is willing to work with Obama that should make him more electale not less.

    Molly Ivins reply when asked about Obama, Her answer: "Yes, he should run. He's the only Democrat with any `Elvis' to him."

    by SmileySam on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:33:57 AM PDT

  •  Please, Please, Please (3+ / 0-)

    No more stupid, lying presidents.

    I would really be worried, but since I really doubt that there will be sn election held at all - can you see Cheney allowing a dimbulb who actually THINKS he's running the country, unlike Monkeyturd - messing up and screwing up his shiney new war with Iran?

    Nah.

    You can't always tell the truth because you don't always know the truth - but you can ALWAYS be honest.

    by mattman on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:34:12 AM PDT

  •  This from the same shithead who wants (3+ / 0-)
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    mattman, Caoimhin Laochdha, jds1978

    to stay in Iraq because Osama bin liden said it was a good place for a war?

    Excuse me for the obscenity but get the fuck out of here with that shit.

  •  Yes, it is perfectly clear... (3+ / 0-)

    ...who all the terrorists want to be the next president: McBush.

    Republican presidents are the best recruiting tool al-Qaeda ever had.

  •  I figured it out (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    mattman, Caoimhin Laochdha, jds1978

    John McCain thinks it's 1980, and that he's running against Carter and the Somoza regime in Nicaragua.  We'll know for certain I'm right when he starts demanding that the Ayatollah release the hostages and that the Soviets immediately withdraw from Afghanistan.

  •  McCain trying to lose? (0+ / 0-)
  •  McCain has pandered to white supremacists (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    mattman, frandor55

    While he had gone soft on illegal immigration (supporting amnesty) before, as the campaign has heated up he's clearly flip-flopped on this issue to being "tough" again, in a clear deference to racists and white supremacists.

    Meanwhile, Obama supports an open dialog leading to peace in Palestine, and for this he gets slammed?

    McCain's policies will only make the situation worse and further inflame Palestinian terrorism.

    Now, again whose policies are more consistent with U.S. national security?

    We're pro-choice on everything! - Libertarian slogan

    by CA Libertarian on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:38:15 AM PDT

    •  McCain says I will be Hamas' worst nightmare. (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      mattman, CA Libertarian

      how is that comforting to the American people? when all it means is a continuation of the status quo and no end insight for Palestinian Israeli standoff.

      Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt. William Shakespeare

      by notquitedelilah on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:45:02 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  In other words, he will further radicalize them (3+ / 0-)

        Increasing the power of the militants and decreasing the power of the moderates.

        This plays out over and over, but the War Party doesn't seem to care.

        The best example is Iran - its moderate prime minister and ruling party were driven from power shortly after W's "axis of evil" speech - which demonstrated to the Iranian people that their efforts towards detente with the U.S. were pointless.  And now Iran is further radicalized.  That has significantly hurt U.S. national security.

        We're pro-choice on everything! - Libertarian slogan

        by CA Libertarian on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:48:18 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Like virtually all Republican-Americans (8+ / 0-)

          he's never had the guts to be "tough", whatever that means today, when it comes to tackling or preventing problems.  

          Being radical, punative, lashing out in fear after a foreseable problem has already occurred is the classic definition of being soft on dealing with a problem.

          It's like all the "tough on crime bullshit."  When politicians say that, they mean "excessively retributive against criminals" not tough on crime.

          Tough on crime means having the strength to fight what causes or inspires crime (primarily illiteracy and, in some parts of the country the effects of GOP class warfare).

          Same with terrorism.  These morons have never been "tough" on terrorism. Instead they have hidden from stopping, protecting and preventing it.  Instead, they have become radically violent against people whom the claim might be terrorists.

          The Republicans have never fought a war against terrorism, just a war against people whom they claim might be terrorists with no regard to preventing or addressing a threat of the type of massive Saudi criminality we saw in September 2001 on Bush's watch.

          sláinte,

          cl

          Religion is like sodomy: both can be harmless when practiced between consenting adults but neither should be imposed upon children.

          by Caoimhin Laochdha on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:00:09 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

      •  McCain does not seem to realize Hamas has (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        CA Libertarian, notquitedelilah

        harmed no Americans and does not conduct operations on American soil. He also does not recognize that in response to Hamas' offer of truce, the IDF promptly raided Gaza again, this time inadvertently killing a 14 year old girl.  IDF figures show about 100 Palestinians a month continue to die in Gaza during its operations and some 50% are collateral or incidental casualties.

        Continued Israeli military action and sanctions against Gaza will only further radicalize the population.  

  •  Clear evidence of Hamas-McCain's collusion (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    mattman, newjeffct

    Hamas is not politically stupid - afterall, they won a fair election.  By appearing to favor Obama, they are actually endorsing McCain.  They know McCain will use their positive opinion of Obama to bludgeon Obama.  In effect, Hamas is providing weapons to McCain.  Is that worse than Iran providing weapons to Iraqis?

    The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

    by accumbens on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:38:19 AM PDT

    •  I suspect Hamas is internally torn (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      bumblebums

      Those who love violence - the status quo - would resist a just settlement with Israel as that would take away the power they accrue through the proliferation of violence.

      And yet, many must understand that they and their people could become considerably more wealthy as a group with normalized relations, and that such a condition is much more likely in an Obama administration than in a Clinton or McCain administration.

      We're pro-choice on everything! - Libertarian slogan

      by CA Libertarian on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:41:03 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  that's how peace processes work (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        mattman, CA Libertarian

        that's how you mainstream groups involved in armed struggle, whether it's Sinn Fein or the Nepali Maoists.

        I'm mad as Gravel, and I'm not going to take it anymore!

        by ceti on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:55:45 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Don't forget many of the militias are Fatah (0+ / 0-)

        who are scuttling Hamas by continued attacks on Israelis.  Hamas is splintered after years of having its operational leaders killed in "extra-judicial" execuations by IDF forces, many of its legislators remain in prison without charges, and much of the remaining leadership is in exile.
        Given the committee type structure and hierarchy of the organization, there is no wonder that there are schisms.

        Presently, the major one seems to be among the leaders in exile who are tending to be more political in worldview as opposed to younger, less experienced leaders "on the ground" in Gaza who argue that violence does produce results while peace does not.  

  •  I'm sure Osama is rooting for McCain (4+ / 0-)

    Nobody like the republicans have given him power.  The more we shack up in the middle east the stronger his movement grows.

    •  And McCain will bring back Draft to ensure Osama (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      mattman

      that he will continue strengthening him as much as Bush has.

      Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

      by DefendOurConstitution on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:43:19 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  The US is fighting anti-Al Qaeda forces (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      jds1978

      more than Al-Qaeda itself. The belligerence towards Iraq and now Iran is a case in point. Iraq was a secular dictatorship in the Stalinist mode while Iran is Shia and was waging a proxy war against the Taliban throughout the 1990s. Both Hezbollah and Hamas have been criticized by Zawahiri, and are aligned with Iran.

      You would almost think with the US sheltering the Saudis and all, that US is on Al Qaeda's side!

      Then again, McCain can't tell the difference. Eurasia, Eastasia, what's the difference?

      I'm mad as Gravel, and I'm not going to take it anymore!

      by ceti on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:59:18 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Remember the Afghans want us to stop (0+ / 0-)

        targeting the Taliban; there is a backlash in the country now against the American backed Karzai government as many Afghans are comparing the present situation to the old Soviet backed communist regime of the 1980s.

    •  A few years ago, the CIA concluded (0+ / 0-)

      that Al Qaeda's release of the bin Laden tape only days before the 2004 election was clearly designed to help Bush.

      I'm not a member of an organized political party, I'm a Democrat - Will Rogers

      by newjeffct on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:08:15 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  news flash (5+ / 0-)

    It's not just Hamas - About 99.9% of the people in the world want Barack Obama to be President.

    They have had all they can take of this corrupt, arrogant, wreckless, violent right wing regime, and January 20, 2009 cannot come fast enough for any of
    them.

  •  Shouldn't Hamas favoring Obama be a good thing. (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    newjeffct

    Doesn't it mean tat they might be willing to listen to him.

    The fact that they may see him as a more impartial agent might allow him to convince them to renounce terrorism and recognize Israel and finally bring some measure of peace to the region

    Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt. William Shakespeare

    by notquitedelilah on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:41:41 AM PDT

  •  Hamas claims they want Obama? (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    mattman, jds1978

    You know what else Hamas claims? That bombing Israeli civilians is justified retaliation for the political conflicts over land. Does John McCain believe that also?

    Yeah, anyone who takes the words of terrorists at face value is a fucking retard, which explains why this allegation first went out to McCain's donors.

  •  It's amazing isn't it? (4+ / 0-)

    Here we are the most powerful nation ever, the one military superpower that spends more on its armed forces than practically the rest of the world combined.
    Yet when it comes to politics, the fear card wins every time.
    The more powerful we are, the more we are afraid.
    Explanation, anyone?

    We're shocked by a naked nipple, but not by naked aggression.

    by Lepanto on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:45:22 AM PDT

  •  How fucking stupid can he get? (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    carolita, llbear, MAORCA

    The Bush policies have served to be the greatest recruiting tool for religous fundamentalist/terrorist organizaitions like Hamas. A continuation of those policies, which Senator McSame promises, is EXACTLY what these thugs, and others like them, desire -- for it will do nothing to improve the situation on the ground and thereby will be a boon to their recruitment efforts.

  •  We just need to make sure that we are very loud (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    mattman, KibbutzAmiad, jds1978

    in saying over and over again that it is clear

    Who the richest people in America want to be the next president of the U.S.

    Who the Latino-bashers want to be the next president of the U.S.

    Who the Gas Companies want to be the next president of the U.S.

    Who the Health Insurance Companies want to be the next president of the U.S.

    Who the Lobbyists in Washington want to be the next president of the U.S.

    Who the remaining racists in this country want to be the next president of the U.S.

    Who the facists in this country want to be the next president of the U.S.

    Who the war-profiteers want to be the next president of the U.S.

    and on and on it goes....

  •  It seems that commenting on blogs (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    mattman

    will not accomplish our goals.

    Why let McCain direct the discussion with BS like this?

    What if individuals made an effort to keep the connection between Republicans, the Iraq War and our shitay economy alive?

    It would be great if people stood at hundreds of interstate ramps each morning at rush hour with signs that read, THE IRAQ WAR IS A RIP-OFF, BRING THE TROOPS HOME.  Every morning, or maybe one morning a week.

    This is the message that must be kept front and center for the next seven months. It covers everything, the fact that the wealthy are getting wealthier at the expense of the poor, that the American people are paying the tab, that our resources are being squandered, that troops are being killed while our ineffective government checks in on progress every six months and does nothing.

    It's just an idea....not everyone reads blogs, ya know.  A lot more people drive cars.

    •  It won't?? (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      carolita, llbear

      You mean I'm just mouthing off here, not really accomplishing anything? Just indulging my exaggerated sense of the importance of my opinions?

      Damn.

      Wish someone had brought this to my attention sooner.

      [tag: self-snark]

      "I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president we will attack Iran." - Hillary Clinton

      by Joe Beese on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 08:49:51 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Very funny. I mean that. It's just my own (0+ / 0-)

        little concern that people let off steam here when maybe it would be a little more effective to do it in front of the world.  We're self-mollifying.

        I'm probably just being silly...

  •  I think it's pretty clear that NAMBLA... (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    mattman, gobucky

    ...endorses McCain...

    I mean, since we're down to just making crap up, let's go big...

    Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others.

    by Aqualad08 on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:50:46 AM PDT

  •  Outrage is the wrong response (5+ / 0-)

    The best response to this is not flying into a rage and getting all red-faced at McCain-- that is the response he is looking for.

    No, the best response is open ridicule

    "Obama, Hamas? Sunni, Shia? Its all the same to him, I guess. Someone remind me why he's running for president again?"

    The goal is not to bring your adversaries to their knees but to their senses. -- Mahatma Gandhi

    by kingubu on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:51:32 AM PDT

  •  "I will be Hamas' worst nightmare" (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    mattman, gobucky, driftwood

    That alone should disqualify McCain for any sensible voter.  Frankly, I don't want a candidate who promises to be anyone's "worst nightmare."

    But while we're examining it, the Hamas Party came to power by open elections.  Yes, the very election the Bush Administration lauded as progress, right up until they realized their favored party wasn't going to win.

    So Hamas is a democratically-elected leadership party in the Palestinian territories, as is the Ortega government in El Salvador ...

    ... so McCain promises to be democracy's "worst nightmare."

    Just what we need ... more of the same.

  •  We should say it first. 'cuase it's true: (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    flumptytail

    Al qaeda wants the Republicans to win the presidency.

    "It's better to realize you're a swan than to live life as a disgruntled duck."

    by Mumon on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:52:40 AM PDT

  •  McCain will be the world's worst nightmare (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    mattman, TampaCPA, JohnB47, DanK Is Back

    Seriously, armageddon is his only platform.

    I'm mad as Gravel, and I'm not going to take it anymore!

    by ceti on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:52:54 AM PDT

    •  Hammas and the rest of world have same position (0+ / 0-)

      regarding the Bush administration. And it isn't that they want Obama as President of US, its that they want anyone but Bush or those who would continue his destructive ways.
      So, perhaps McCain would be more correct in saying that the world is hoping the US comes to its senses and elects a president that knows how to be a good neighbor rather than a bully and fear mongering natural resource rapist.

  •  Never heard anyone call Ortega "Danny" (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    jds1978

    they must be BFF

    It's the constitution, stupid

    by CTMET on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:55:23 AM PDT

  •  The appropriate response to such (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    mattman, flumptytail

    a claim is to ask whether McCain has been in touch with Hamas and delivering a message from them, or is he simply spreading unsubstantiated gossip.  If the latter, then that's concerning because presidential candidates out not to be spreading misinformation.

    Democrats have to start paying more attention to the form of the communication and less to the content.

    On the other hand, it wouldn't hurt to point out that conservatives have a habit of assigning responsibility other than where it lies.  This lets them claim credit for things they didn't do and assign blame elsewhere for what they did.

    How do you tell a predator from a protector? The predator will eat you sooner rather than later.

    by hannah on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:56:49 AM PDT

  •  McCain still thinks he's running for permanent (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    DanK Is Back, Joe Beese

    guest on the Sunday morning shows. (The Sabbath Gasbags, in Calvin Trillin language.) This is the kind of stuff he's always spewed on Sunday a.m. and it never had legs beyond Monday. Hamas doesn't have the same ring as terrorists or Bin Laden or any of the other hot words of the Bush Administration -- the words they use when they need to trigger fear and hatred. I don't know who he's aiming this one at, but he didn't hit the mark.

    Anyone else notice how lousy he is as a campaigner? He was always better as the permanent guest. I don't think he understands the shift. Sort of like Hillary not understanding how you can do a search and come up with proof when she lies. They're both confused about Politics 2.0.

    Always be sincere, even if you don't mean it. - Harry S Truman

    by parker parrot on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:57:42 AM PDT

  •  If I were Obama, the way I'd run with this... (2+ / 0-)
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    mattman, flumptytail

    ... would be something akin to, "well, with all due respect to my friend John McCain, I think you'd be hard-pressed to to find any institution around the world who wants to deal with another four years of failed Republican presidential policies."

    I actually had a better phrasing of this last night, but now I've forgotten it :/

    Although the masters make the rules / For the wise men and the fools / I got nothing, Ma, to live up to. (Dylan)

    by teedz on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 06:58:19 AM PDT

  •  Those Statements Are .... (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    mattman

    real close to the e-mail that was circulating about Barack being a Muslim . Here we go again . Why doesn't McCain just come out and say it . He hides behind his surrogates - Like the N.C. GOP backed add . Oh , you can't tie all of that to him right . He must be in another party . Reminiscent of Hillary's statements like " people can do and say what they please , I don't always agree with ." No denouncement or rejection . I'll never forget , ever , the way she tried to put Obama on the spot at that debate with that denounce , also reject crap , but McCains surrogates are the worse ever , bordering on hate crime .

  •  Somebody Please (0+ / 0-)

    Please list one issue more important than national security. I expect no responses because there is no issue more important.

    This is the issue you should vote on.

    •  Define National Security (0+ / 0-)

      If you mean stopping endless war that leaves us more vuklnerable to attack, then yes.  If you mean forcing grandma to takes her shoes off at the airport, no.  McCain is wrong on both issues.

      You have to be on some large doses of drugs to believe McSame is going to make us safer.  Maybe that explains Rush and Cindy McCain's support!

      In an insane society, the sane man would appear insane

      by TampaCPA on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:09:27 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  If you liked Bush, you'll love McCain... (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      skrekk

      The national security candidate as long as you believe color-coded threat levels make you safe.

    •  food shortages would seem to fit (0+ / 0-)

      but then anything that affects the country enough to trump national security must be an issue of national security.
      The question begs to be circular.  

    •  Are you implying that McCain has ANY (0+ / 0-)

      qualifications in that area?  The same John McCain who funded the Contra terrorist group with his own money, who voted to attack a Muslim country which had never attacked the US, and who seems to have - at best - a limited understanding of who/what/why we're fighting in Iraq?  A man who was against torture before he was for it?

      But you're right: this is the issue I'm voting on, and it's why my vote is for Obama.

  •  we won't be McCained (1+ / 0-)
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    mattman

    we just stick to the economy and we win. we get caught up on the terrorism triangulation again and it's surely over regardless if it's Barry or Hilly.

    Supporting veterans is becoming an important issue that we are on the right side of as well.

  •  Well, that would make me more likely to vote for (2+ / 0-)
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    mattman, flumptytail

    Obama. Peace in the Middle East goes through solving the Israel-Palesine conflict and Hamas is a part in this conflict, like it or not.

    Stupid McCain, he would help escalating anti-Americanism in the Middle East.

    Conservatism = greed, hate, fear and ignorance

    by Joe B on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:05:33 AM PDT

  •  Does McCain think American voters .,, (3+ / 0-)
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    mattman, newjeffct, flumptytail

    should take advice from Hamas?

    CHRISTIAN, n. One who believes that the New Testament is a divinely inspired book admirably suited to the spiritual needs of his neighbor. A. Bierce

    by irate on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:06:14 AM PDT

  •  In 2004, Iran endorsed Bush (2+ / 0-)
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    mattman, skrekk

    How soon we all forget.

    And, the Spanish train bombers - supposedly affiliated with Al Qaeda - also endorsed Bush.

    I'm not a member of an organized political party, I'm a Democrat - Will Rogers

    by newjeffct on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:06:38 AM PDT

  •  The people he seeks to serve are the same (1+ / 0-)
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    mattman

    people Bush and Cheney sought to serve. The people Bush called his base,
    the rich, greedy ruthless elite. Oh but gosh, he's white, he even has white hair and he's a man. And he can cook barbecue. And he calls his wife a trollop and a cunt. What's not to love?

    The sound of several slobbering horses scarfing up sticky rotting persimmons is fairly disgusting! klk

    by flumptytail on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:07:41 AM PDT

  •  McCHAIN Gang....McCain gets free ride on (1+ / 0-)
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    chain gang backs.

    Prisoners Setting Up Chairs for McCain in Alabama

    This has to fit in somewhere.  

  •  More Strhate Talk (1+ / 0-)
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    John McCain's Campaign of Fear & Hate.

    This time it's personal.

    by apostrophe on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:10:56 AM PDT

  •  Do anything. Roast me. Skin me. Eat me. (2+ / 0-)
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  •  What's the over under on HRC (0+ / 0-)

    saying the same thing about the nomination?

    2 days?

    -6.5, -7.59. John McSame - running for Bush's third term. We can't afford it.

    by DrWolfy on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:13:15 AM PDT

  •  Not at all (3+ / 0-)
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    McCain claimed last week that he wanted to run a campaign "that is worthy of the people we seek to serve."  It's apparent from McCain's cheap fear-mongering and distortions that he doesn't think much of the people he seeks to serve at all.

    Not at all. John McCain thinks very highly indeed of the people he seeks to serve. Unfortunately, the people he seeks to serve are defense contractors, oil companies, pharmaceutical companies, and lobbyists. And while I doubt that anyone in Hamas gives a rat's ass who wins our elections, I'm certain that the people above DO consider Obama their worst nightmare.

  •  McCain can't tell the difference... (2+ / 0-)
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    ...between Shia and Sunni but he knows what Hamas is thinking? What a fraud this guy is.

  •  I'm hoping... (0+ / 0-)

    people have been generally forced into a newly found sense of objectivity.

    The Republican fantasy has long collapsed.

    :::::

    ...Operation Rota is Closed... New Blog Coming Soon With Pictures!...

    by nowheredesign on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:16:36 AM PDT

  •  Obama needs to hit right back (2+ / 0-)
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    Ad 1: "Fear politics got us over 4,000 brave and precious Americans lives lost in a misguided war a vote for Mccain will bring the same."

    Ad #2: "John Mccain promised to be above board and avoid scurrilous attacks.  Instead he turned to typical republican fear and lies.  Is this the person Osma Bin Laden truly fears? Or is someone that doesnt need pointless smears to get things done and instead will eliminate murderous terrorists through actions and not vapid cowboy analogies."

    March 16 2008: The day that signaled foreclosure on the traditional 4th estate

    by jessran72 on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:17:15 AM PDT

  •  Jed Report! (0+ / 0-)

    We need one of his (always fantastic) videos with these things posted back to back!

    Jed, if you read this...I'm DLing firefox, what was the program you said you used to DL video streams off the net again?

    I'll do my part.

    "Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do." ~Voltaire

    by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:17:21 AM PDT

  •  When are Dems going to grow cojones and (0+ / 0-)

    use this against Republicans?

    After all, Bush has given AlQaeda (and other terrorists) more power than they could have ever dreamed of:

    - Let bin Laden get away when US had him cornered

    - Created a safe haven in Pakistan for AlQaeda training camps

    - Created AlQaeda in Iraq and gave AlQaeda another major training and testing ground

    - Weakend international institutions so that chaos (AlQaeda's most important assett) could be spread further

    - Gave AlQaeda the best PR campaign EVER with AbuGhraib

    - Validated torture to make sure AlQaeda has justifucation to torture ant Americans they capture (ok, they would have done it anyway, but now it has been legitimized by Bush)

    - Created power vacuums in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq, thus creating an unstable haven for AlQaeda to increase its influence

    - Gave Iran more power (ok, this has nothing to do with AlQaeda but Bush/Cheny/McCain keep trying to mix up AlQaeda and Iran so we might as well throw it in) than they could have ever grabbed.  The biggest state sponsor of Terrorism got the opportunity (thanks to Bush!) to expand its influence in Palestine/Israel by helping to elect Hamas, got another gift of extra control in Lebanon, basically controls Syria's foreign policy completely, and - lets face it - has made the President of the US as weak and loonie as Chavez, Ahmadinejad or Assad (cartoon characters that would never have had much power/influence except fo Bush)

    We definitely who the candidate of AlQaeda is.  Now it's up to the Democrats to make it clear before November.

    Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

    by DefendOurConstitution on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:17:41 AM PDT

  •  Here's the meme killer: (1+ / 0-)
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    RickMassimo

    any black President would be able to negotiate and communicate with the rest of the world better than McCain -- who chooses not to and instead wants to bomb, bomb, bomb.

    Just the way Jesse Jackson could get American POWs in Serbia released just by asking.

    Choice: bomb or stop the War Tax?

    skiddly bop doo wow!

    by skiddlybop on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:28:38 AM PDT

    •  Now that I think of it, (0+ / 0-)

      ANY President at all would be more likely to negotiate and restore moral authority than McCain.

      So we already have an indication that actual terrorists will behave themselves more with diplomacy because of Obama's ability to rebuild the world coalition that Bush pissed away.

      There's your choice: eight more years of neo-cons, 100 years of war, or we already know Obama has the prestige that diplomacy requires. He obviously beat one terrorist group without even being President.

      skiddly bop doo wow!

      by skiddlybop on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:32:56 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  but McCain has it right about one thing: (0+ / 0-)

    Zombies. He knows what we need to do about zombies:

    Arizona Sen. John McCain was asked if there is a plan to attack zombies. McCain began his answer by changing the words to a classic Beach Boys’ song.

    "You know that old Beach Boys song, Bomb Zombies?" the Republican presidential candidate said. Then, he sang. "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb zombies."

    Of course he knows this because he is a zombie.

    "The elite aren't approachable like you, me, and President Shit-for-Brains" - Bill Maher

    by Isara on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:29:15 AM PDT

  •  Seriously, whenever somebody brings this up... (1+ / 0-)
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    skrekk

    ...in conversation, ask them if they know what country Hamas is from and what they've done.

    There's a 85% chance they don't have a clue on either...

    Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others.

    by Aqualad08 on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:30:40 AM PDT

  •  Mccain or Obama (1+ / 0-)
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    DefendOurConstitution

    Someone in MSM needs to point out that Hamas and Al Queda have enjoyed plentiful recruits and ample fund raising during the Bush/Cheney years. Maybe a change in tactics and or policy is needed. Obama certainly would be very hard pressed to do worse.

    •  Funding comes from OIL and nobody has done more (1+ / 0-)
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      to make sure that oil prices keep rising than Bush.

      Oil has always been the primary financing mechanism for terrorism and oil going up more than 4 times since 9/11 (or Bush's election, it's all the same) are nothing but a boon to terrorists.

      Bin Laden must be saying - thank you, thank you, thank you to Bush!

      Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

      by DefendOurConstitution on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:40:44 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  No surprise (0+ / 0-)

    This isn't news.  Both Hillary and McCain will play the fear-monger cards and every dirty trick they can think of, to fool people into voting for their bankrupt ideas and support of corruption in DC.

  •  This is going to be a reprise of 1968 (0+ / 0-)

    Those who can not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.

    Those of us who demonstrated and were beaten up for our support of Eugene McCarthy, ( keep clean for Gene) see the same thing occurring all over again.

    McCain will be the "new" Nixon, not the "old" Bush.

    It might be instructive if the Obama and Clinton followers would pause and take a few moments to review the 1968 primary battles instead of making "threats" to sit out the election if "their" candidate doesn't win.

  •  John McCain lacks the political courage (0+ / 0-)

    .. to be President.

    He's afraid of Democratic opponent Barack Obama; how will he face the world?

    This time it's personal.

    by apostrophe on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:42:33 AM PDT

  •  Here is some prime McSame bullshit... (0+ / 0-)

    I think that people should understand that I will be Hamas's worst nightmare.

    Bullshit.

    Hamas will see you just like they see Bush; as a swaggering moron who will willfully destroy the freedoms of the American people all in the name of "the war on terror."

    Considering how Iraq is going, I would think Hamas would shout with glee if another America-hating neocon idiot is elected president.

    "There is absolutely no greater high than challenging the power stucture as a nobody, giving it your all, and winning." --Abbie Hoffman

    by wyvern on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:48:01 AM PDT

  •  McCain will run (1+ / 0-)
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    gobucky

    a campaign "that is worthy of the people we seek to serve."

    The only question is who those people are.

  •  Funny, I thought WE elected our presidents (0+ / 0-)

    I guess we should just have Hamas pick our presidents for us. It's the only way to stay free!

    Bush Derangement Syndrome is a sign of sanity.

    by RickMassimo on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 07:54:20 AM PDT

  •  Too bad Yousef doesn't seem to understand (0+ / 0-)

    that his endorsement is like the kiss of death.  Not to be rude, but SYFPH, Hamas!

  •  When Obama and Mr. Magoo (McCain) (0+ / 0-)

    finally debate, I think it will be clear who the better leader will be.  Obama, sharpened by the Clinton wars, will look younger, smarter and more capable than McCain.  He's also a lot taller, maybe 5-6 inches taller, which may make more of a difference than we think.

    •  Taller often makes a difference (0+ / 0-)

      I recall back when Dukakis was running, some study showing that in presidential races, the taller candidate almost always wins. Americans like their leaders tall and strong - like their coffee, I suppose.

      Apropos which, James Madison, father of the Constitution and one of our best presidents, was also the shortest IIRC.

      It is not the business of the state to help its citizens get into heaven nor to save them from hell.

      by DanK Is Back on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 08:57:19 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  If Hamas really loved what Obama enbodies (0+ / 0-)

    Then Israel would be in real trouble

    (Note to Republicans. Don't read this, you won't understand)

    Barack Obama will be President, John Edwards will send George W Bush to The Hague

    by vanguardia on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 08:23:19 AM PDT

  •  Hey John... (0+ / 0-)

    The residents of New Orleans favored George Bush over Osama bin Laden.  But did it help them any?

    Allegedly... your situation - for you - would be concurrently improved, if I had two hundred dollars in my back pocket right now.

    by BA BarackUS on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 08:24:21 AM PDT

  •  It's clear who the KKK wants to win.... (0+ / 0-)

    ...and it's John McSame.

    "A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs, who, however, has never learned to walk forward." - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

    by bayman on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 08:26:36 AM PDT

  •   Democrats favored in electoral map (0+ / 0-)

    The electoral road to the White House favors Democrats this fall — either Barack Obama or Hillary Rodham Clinton — and has Republican John McCain playing defense to thwart a presidential power shift.

    A downtrodden economy, the war in Iraq and a public call for change have created an Electoral College outlook and a political environment filled with extraordinary opportunity for the Democrats and enormous challenge for the GOP nominee-in-waiting.

    Both parties count on victory in dozens of states that long have voted their way. The competition to reach the 270 electoral votes needed to win is expected to play out primarily in 14 states. All but one saw the greatest action in 2004. The exception is Virginia, a longtime Republican stronghold where Democrats have made inroads.

    Eight of the states went for President Bush four years ago, including the crown jewels Ohio and Florida. Six, including big-prize Pennsylvania, voted for Democrat John Kerry. In the battlegrounds, far more electoral votes, 97, are up for grabs for Democrats than the 69 available for McCain to go after. Twice as many of the closest states — decided by 2 or fewer percentage points — voted Republican in 2004; they include New Mexico and Iowa, which the GOP won by 1 point.

    http://news.yahoo.com/...

  •  it’s clear Al Qaeda wants McCain (0+ / 0-)

    "...I think it's very clear who Al Qaeda who killed thousands of innocent Americans wants to be the next president of the United States, they want McCain to be the president. Al Qaeda loves McCain's "pro-growth" Al-Qaeda policies because they know that McCain will continue the same policies as Bush-Cheney's which will help Al Qaeda recruit thousands more".

  •  The republican party (1+ / 0-)
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    has proven to be a much greater threat to America than any terrorist or group of terrorists ever could be.

    "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from a religious conviction." --Blaise Pascal

    by lyvwyr101 on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 08:35:29 AM PDT

  •  This has been, and always will be, (0+ / 0-)

    the Republicans, and media's, attack on Barack Obama. They will continue to say that Obama is a Muslim, Black, terrorist-sympathizer, and then say that will be America's choice.

  •  Bin Laden's plan is to bankrupt (0+ / 0-)

    the US.  Bush & the GOP have taken his bait, hook line and sinker. McCain is all too happy to continue Bush failures.

  •  Reverse psychology (0+ / 0-)

    Someone should explain to McCain (or, since he won't listen, to the American people) the concept of reverse psycholody - promoting one idea or action in the expectation that the listener will do the opposite. Any parent of a teenager can explain this one.

    Which means that Hamas is playing McCain for a child. We've had 8 years of a child in the White House; we don't need 4 more - especially a kid with a bad temper.

    I sense a new ad coming on.

    It is not the business of the state to help its citizens get into heaven nor to save them from hell.

    by DanK Is Back on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 08:51:04 AM PDT

  •  Barack at the blackboard (0+ / 0-)

    showing dates, events, world leaders, countries, with arrows, standing there, his patient good-humored teacherly self evident. Now class, here is the beginning of the Weathermen, here is where they changed their name to  Weather Underground to be respectful of the women bombers, here is me at eight years old. Over here is Danial Ortega. Tomorrow we will learn about Hamas.

    Be not afraid. Fear feeds the dragon.

    by mrobinson on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 09:14:20 AM PDT

  •  Except for one thing (0+ / 0-)

    Voters couldn't give a shit what Hamas wants or doesn't want. I would think that Osama bin Laden would favor McCain though. He will keep playing into Al Qaeda's strategy of having the US occupy Arab lands as proof that the west is on an anti-Islamic crusade, thereby justifying his group's actions. So, do we now accuse McCain of being a bin Laden dupe?

    WARNING: I do not support any specific candidate!

    by Anne Elk on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 10:04:52 AM PDT

  •  Let's pretend it's 1944 (0+ / 0-)

    .. And one candidate said about the other: "He is the nominee Hitler wants as president!"

    How do you think people would react to that?  Would there have been a backlash?

    Just another way that the GOP gives aid and comfort to our enemies by giving them the power to hijack our democracy.

    "I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords..."

    by pawlr on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 10:05:56 AM PDT

  •  Slow-boaters (1+ / 0-)
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    I can hardly wait until the "Slow-boaters"
    from the USS Forrestal have a chance to tell us
    who John McCain really is.
    Are his shipmates going to let him screw them again?

  •  It may be true that Hamas (0+ / 0-)

    and the Sandanistas like Obama (since it's impossible to prove otherwise), but it may also be true that Hezbollah, Al Qaeda and the Tamil Tigers support McCain. And the Shining Path in Peru and the Red Brigades in Italy. Let's just make this a war of randomly accusing each candidate of being the favorite of this or that terrorist group and see if that leads to a higher quality election. Shame on you Sen McCain.

  •  Undermined argument (0+ / 0-)

    So if there is a democrat in the white house, terrorists are going to be emboldened.

    Don't you think fighting the wrong way, in stereo emboldens terrorists even more?

    Personally, if i was McCain, i would focus more on getting Bin Laden, last time i checked, he was still on the run

  •  Use the shovel of BS that McCain is throwing (1+ / 0-)
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    and send it back to him by the buckets full. That's the only way to fight these folks. We can want our candidate to be as nice and respectful as possible, but this is what is wrought when we pretend anyone in the GOP has any sense of decency, honesty or respect. The Dems should be running commercials about McCain NOW that question his sense of honesty, integrity, and ethics. There's ample ammunition that comes straight from the horse's mouth. NOW is the time. Not next week, or a month, or the summer or the fall. NOW!

    McCain: "I think that clearly my fortunes have a lot to do with what's happening in Iraq" ... Buh-bye!

    by RevJoe on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 10:49:42 AM PDT

  •  John Mccain is out of Touch (0+ / 0-)

    He's out of touch on so many things that it really, really scares me.

  •  McCain will do whatever it takes to win. (0+ / 0-)
  •  Dems need to fight back, Republicans are racists (0+ / 0-)

    Who is the KKK supporting this year?  Who are all the white supremacists supporting this year and every year?  McCain and the Republican Party.  Fight fire with fire and tag the Republicans as the racists that they are.  The Dems need to stop being cowards and call the Republicans out.  

  •  Unfortuanetly, Some of the people CAN be fooled.. (0+ / 0-)

    David

    Unfortunately, Some of the people CAN be fooled, ALL of the time.  Example: 31% of the people STILL think BushCo is doing a GREAT job, kool-aid drinkers that they are, WE just have to concentrate on the middle 40-50% (we 'radical left extremists' and 'elitists' [maybe an 'equal' 29%] you know the ones who weren't fooled the first time, are good to go, WE 'get it'.

    As for 'gramps' McSame's:  "I think that people should understand that I will be Hamas's worst nightmare..."

    OBVIOUSLY 'begged' the follow up question, which the knee-pad clad, BBQ-bought, MSM did NOT even think to ask:  'What exactly do you mean by that John Sydney McCain III, ...their worst nightmare'?

    'Gramps' McSame, 'Off His Meds & On A Roll' (to WW3).

    "...in these new dark ages There will still be light."

    by Ken Tucker on Sat Apr 26, 2008 at 03:04:50 PM PDT

  •  No more Grand Old Robots! (0+ / 0-)

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