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It's been covered very little in this campaign, but Hillary Clinton used to work for actual Communists and Black Panthers -- members of organizations whose radical agendas believed that the United States is a corrupt, decadent, criminal nation.  

Here's Carl Bernstein describing how Hillary worked for radicals who rejected America...

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Carl Bernstein:

"That summer she went to work at the most important radical law firm in America at that point: Treuhaft, Walker and Bernstein in Oakland. They defended the Panthers. Two of their partners were members of the Communist Party--including Bob Treuhaft, who was married to Jessica Mitford. I talked to Bob Treuhaft not long before he died, and he said he was certain that Hillary came there because she subscribed to some of the kind of law they practiced and the kind of clients they defended. In her so-called autobiography, "Living History," she put in a couple of sentences about living in Berkeley with Bill that summer and working at that law firm, but she makes it sound like their work focused on postal rate increases. There's not a word about radicals."

Hillary voluntarily worked for people who believed that capitalism is evil, and who did not acknowledge the millions killed under Stalin in the U.S.S.R.  

From the Communist Party of America website:

Capitalism is very undemocratic and unpatriotic. It gives people no say in the economic decisions made by corporations, which can affect the lives and livelihoods of hundreds or thousands of workers and kill whole communities. It ignores borders whenever there is money to be made. The almost overwhelming force of money in politics is the opposite of free speech.

What are the CPUSA’s views on the USSR?

The subject of the USSR is a complex one. There was certainly an insufficiently developed democracy, but to dismiss over 70 years of their history developing socialism as completely undemocratic is a gross oversimplification. They practiced forms of economic democracy and worker involvement unknown in this country. They offered citizens many essential benefits that the drive to capitalism has destroyed.

The Black Panther Party has a similar history of rejecting the values of the United States of America, and calling for revolution against our government.  

Here's the Black Panther Party's Ten-Point Program, a manifesto from the 1960s.  It drips with contempt for the United States, and offers outrageous "solutions" to America's supposed evils... ideas much like the American Communist Party advocated:

Black Panther Ten-Point Program:

  1. We want freedom. We want power to determine the destiny of our Black Community.
  1. We want full employment for our people.
  1. We want an end to the robbery by the white man of our Black Community.
  1. We want decent housing, fit for shelter of human beings.
  1. We want education for our people that exposes the true nature of this decadent American society. We want education that teaches us our true history and our role in the present-day society.
  1. We want all black men to be exempt from military service.
  1. We want an immediate end to police brutality and murder of black people.
  1. We want freedom for all black men held in federal, state, county and city prisons and jails.
  1. We want all black people when brought to trial to be tried in court by a jury of their peer group or people from their black communities, as defined by the Constitution of the United States.
  1. We want land, bread, housing, education, clothing, justice and peace. And as our major political objective, a United Nations-supervised plebiscite to be held throughout the black colony in which only black colonial subjects will be allowed to participate for the purpose of determining the will of black people as to their national destiny.

Does Hillary Clinton still advocate for all of the ideas above?

Does Hillary Clinton still agree with the Communist Party, and the Black Panther Movement?   Does she still intend to work for their goals?

She tries to come off as a moderate, but it's clear that she CHOSE to work for people who believed that America was only a force for evil in this world.   If she didn't agree with that, she never would have worked with them.  She was an adult, after all.

And if she's changed her mind about America being a force of evil, how can we be sure we won't change it again?  She doesn't seem to have any core principles.

How can we elect such a person as President?

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O.K. then...

Is the content of this diary fair?  No.  It's based on facts, but from there relies completely on guilt by association, conflates wildly, and throws out scurrilous accusations that completely ignore nuance, context, and even time.

It is, in short, exactly the kind of hit job that the Clinton campaign and its hardcore supporters (Larry Johnson, Taylor Marsh, et al.) have been perpetrating on Barack Obama for many months now.

This is a little taste of what the Obama campaign might use if it sunk to the level of the Clinton campaign.   Hillary and her surrogates boast about having been vetted -- and therefore, theoretically untouchable by Republicans in November.

Ah, but there's always more.  And using Clinton logic, the Obama campaign should have trotted all the above stuff out because it's in the interest of the Democratic Party.  That is, Hillary must be subject to a good pre-vetting by her Democratic rival, and nothing is off-limits.  

And if she or the campaign or even a few supporters complain about sordid tactics, then they must have the likes of Bill Clinton or James Carville complain about Hillary being weak, and whiny, and wussy.

This has been a trip through the looking glass.  I hope everyone got back safely.  

 

Originally posted to chumley on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 07:17 AM PDT.

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  •  If she was (4+ / 0-)
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    Pangloss, irate, gchaucer2, cachola

    I would be more likely to vote for her, lol.

  •  Tips for proper vetting. (14+ / 0-)

    It's all for the good of the Democratic party, after all.

    And if ANY Clinton supporters object to the content, I say you're too weak and whiny to stand the heat.  Get out of Presidential politics, now!

    Right, Bill?  Right, Hill?

    President JOHN McCAIN = George W. Bush's third term.

    by chumley on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 07:19:42 AM PDT

  •  The question the MSM should ask... (4+ / 0-)
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    Phoenix Woman, chumley, irate, WayneNight

    "Senator Clinton, when did you stop beating your husband?"

    •  If I were in her position... (1+ / 0-)
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      chumley

      ...especially after the whole Lewinsky mess, my answer would probably be "never." ;-)

      Actually, a good smack upside the head now and then might encourage him to keep his mouth shut on the campaign trail.  Which, at this point, is something they really, really need him to do.

  •  I wonder if she's still working for Goldwater. (4+ / 0-)
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    chumley, farleftcoast, irate, Greasy Grant

    Or any other Republican candidates from Arizona.

    Why can't she close the deal?

    A conservative is just a liberal who hasn't needed a second chance yet.

    Rush Limbaugh says: vote for Hillary Clinton!

    by Larry McAwful on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 07:23:15 AM PDT

  •  It's even worse. (3+ / 0-)

    She's working for the republicans.

    CHRISTIAN, n. One who believes that the New Testament is a divinely inspired book admirably suited to the spiritual needs of his neighbor. A. Bierce

    by irate on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 07:24:15 AM PDT

  •  Diaries like this make me sick.... (0+ / 0-)

    "A change would do U.S. good!"

    by AnnieM on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 07:26:24 AM PDT

  •  I don't understand this diary. (1+ / 0-)
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    farleftcoast

    The CPUSA's views on capitalism are simplistic and overly slanted, of course, but generally do make sense. And at first blush, points 1 through 5 of the BPP's ten-point agenda make perfect sense.

    It's a satirical diary, right?

    "I decided to force-feed him, but he wouldn't eat... I hated myself for making him eat, but I hated him more for not eating."

    by Shaviv on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 07:33:12 AM PDT

  •  Hmm (0+ / 0-)

    It's a "Legitimate Campaign Issue."

    "If I'm ever at a point in my life where the best part of waking up is Folgers in my cup, I don't wanna wake up." ---Mike Birbiglia

    by droogie6655321 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 07:41:06 AM PDT

  •  The Black Panthers (1+ / 0-)
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    Were one of the best things that ever happened to the Black community in urban areas, and this country, and they were systematically wiped out by Hoover and COINTELPRO, precisely because they were acknowledged to be one of the best things that had ever happened to our community in terms of political activism.  They fed hungry children breakfast, taught Black people not to be afraid of the oppression of the police, and stood with dignity.

    Yet an asshole like you reduces them to "radical" and lists their "ten point program" as an example of "outrageous solutions".

    Like demanding decent housing and decent wages are anti-American.  What a schmuck.

    •  Did you read the diary? (1+ / 0-)
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      DemocraticLuntz

      ...Says this asshole, schmuck, and whatever other nasty stuff you have to call me?

      Read it through it through to the end.

      If you still think I'm an asshole... well, then I don't particularly care.

      President JOHN McCAIN = George W. Bush's third term.

      by chumley on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 07:55:31 AM PDT

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      •  I Did (1+ / 0-)
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        And maybe it's Monday, but I do not see the sarcasm in it.  I read your argument as saying that regardless of the merits of these groups, Hillary can be attacked through her (past or present) affiliation with them.  If there was a larger point, it is lost on me.  And given that the point is lost on me (and it may be my fault) perhaps you should clarify what else you were trying to say.  Because for me this type of device is offensive, when it comes to groups like the Black Panthers.

        •  Thanks for responding. (1+ / 0-)
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          I appreciate it.

          And it's entirely possible my rhetorical / literally skills might not have been up to such a highwire act.  Possibly too clever by half (or un-clever, as the case may be).

          As for the Black Panthers -- I agree that they were largely a force for good in the Black community in the 60s and 70s, and they were pretty much murdered by the Nixon administration.  

          My point is that the Clinton campaign uses Rev. Wright and the Weathermen (Ayers) to insinuate that Obama is un-American, radical, etc.... and that if Barack had HRC's history, they'de undoubtedly have adopted any available rightwing talking point, and demonized him for one summer working with a Bay Area law firm that had connections to the Black Panthers (clients) and the Communist Party (one partner was a member; another a former member).

          Posting the manifesto of the Panthers might have been ham-handed on my part, but you can see the stuff that the Clinton campaign and its surrogates would have repeatedly called on Obama to denounce/reject/etc. -- such as "exposes the true nature of this decadent American society."  

          As for the Communist material, I feel more mixed.  They are guilty of a lot of blind spots, to say the least -- but the demonization of the ACP has historically been way over the top.  On the whole, I'm a lot less sympathetic to their movement than to the Panthers... as a union member, though, I realize that they have some very legit points about capitalism.

          I am a fan of your writing -- particularly this piece -- and I'm sorry that the shortcomings of my own writing made you think I was being disrespectful to those who have suffered and died for justice.

          President JOHN McCAIN = George W. Bush's third term.

          by chumley on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 08:50:29 AM PDT

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          •  Thank You (1+ / 0-)
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            For your further response.  I hear what you are trying to say more clearly.  As I said, it's Monday morning.  Sorry I was so harsh.

            •  I think many of us are a bit touchy ... (1+ / 0-)
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              ...these days and not just on Monday mornings. When I saw that headline, I started fuming despite knowing that chumley does good work. It took me a while to chill and accept that the larger critique being made was a good one. The problem is that it is sometimes difficult for someone to get across such a larger point when because the megamedia and a lot of nutcases are using racism, sexism, guilt by association, kneejerk anti-radicalism and a whole range of other bullshit to taint candidates and press their own agenda(s) forward. I know I've gotten uncharacteristically reflexive in this atmosphere.

              The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppose. - Frederick Douglass

              by Meteor Blades on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 09:57:05 AM PDT

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              •  point taken, MB. (0+ / 0-)

                And maybe I shouldn't attempt something with so many rhetorical landmines, at least unless I have the time to really finesse it.

                Even better, avoid the Swiftian mode.  Maybe not best for the web, when you're a little-known writer.  

                President JOHN McCAIN = George W. Bush's third term.

                by chumley on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 10:12:30 AM PDT

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    •  I suggest that you reread the diary. (1+ / 0-)
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      You & the diarist are on the same side. S/he's not arguing that the use of the Black Panthers is as a bogeyman is a legitimate political tactic. Here's the point of the diary:

      It is, in short, exactly the kind of hit job that the Clinton campaign and its hardcore supporters (Larry Johnson, Taylor Marsh, et al.) have been perpetrating on Barack Obama for many months now.

      This is a little taste of what the Obama campaign might use if it sunk to the level of the Clinton campaign.   Hillary and her surrogates boast about having been vetted -- and therefore, theoretically untouchable by Republicans in November.

      Peace.

      "It's not enough to be right. You still have to use your nice voice." -said by my then six-year-old daughter in reference to the Lorax

      by be the change you seek on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 07:56:24 AM PDT

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      •  and just to add what came right before that... (1+ / 0-)
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        O.K. then...

        Is the content of this diary fair?  No.  It's based on facts, but from there relies completely on guilt by association, conflates wildly, and throws out scurrilous accusations that completely ignore nuance, context, and even time.

        I understand that people might not love this rhetorical technique, but it seems that some are reacting as if they haven't read it through, even though I wrote at the top:

        [NOTE: I humbly request that you read this diary all the way to the end.  And if the title and initial content make you angry, please skip right down.  Thank you.]

        But oh well.  It's just the internet.  

        President JOHN McCAIN = George W. Bush's third term.

        by chumley on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 08:01:01 AM PDT

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  •  Which is worse for America? (0+ / 0-)

    The Black Panthers, Communists, or Wal-Mart?  Because you know she's worked for all three.

    "That's what killed Dennis Day-- contempt for the audience." -- Phil Hartman as Frank Sinatra

    by Pangloss on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 08:13:08 AM PDT

  •  Jessica Mitford's brother-in-law was Oswald (2+ / 0-)
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    Meteor Blades, chumley

    Mosley, the notorious Nazi-loving founder of the British Union of Fascists.

    Just in the interest of disclosure.

  •  Why, She Never Did (0+ / 0-)

    If she had, it'd be in the news, silly.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 09:18:34 AM PDT

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