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Screw you.  Screw America. I went "all-in" with millions of my own money because I knew you suckers would keep sending me money as long as I was in the race.

That's why I'm still in this thing - just in case, and to scrape as much dough from the poor saps who support me whom are too stubborn or too dim to see what a basically dishonest and devious person I am.

And if anyone ever manages to make the case to the right audience that with all these "misspoken" incidences I have committed, it would appear rather obvious that I am not qualified to hold the presidential stapler, let alone the office, we'll write another book or 3 about it all and come back again after the short-term memory limits kick in.

Ah, you see, I'm smarter than all of you.  I know that America refuses to see things as clearly as they are when that means facing harsh realities.  Hell, if what happened in Florida in 2000 had occurred almost anywhere else in the world, people would have rioted until they got a full recount.  In Florida, USA they marched until they got moved out of the news cycle and then went home.  I do love me some Florida I tell ya!

And it's precisely that apathetic detachment that I know will in the end allow me to steal this thing.  

And if I'm wrong, heh, there's always 2012 or 2016, and money is no issue because all of you will be paying, either by donation or by buying my next books.


Anybody know where I can find a bunch of dalmation puppies and/or some homeless people with some great tattoos? I need a new coat, and a lamp-shade for my office at the Senate, you know, the one that Kennedy used to have before he was assassinated.

[note: no animals or homeless people were harmed in the making of this diary, that we know of]

Originally posted to johnsonresult on Sat May 24, 2008 at 12:30 AM PDT.


Do you still believe this woman has any ethical standards at all?

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Comment Preferences

  •  huh? (0+ / 0-)

    This is why posting diaries in the middle of the night is bad for your health.

  •  Now that diarying you can Xerox! n/t (2+ / 0-)
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    inclusive, RedStateProgressive

    Posting a diary on the nomination? Pay your McCain Tax!

    by Seneca Doane on Sat May 24, 2008 at 12:38:59 AM PDT

  •  Crap! (0+ / 0-)

    Next we'll be hearing HRC shot RFK.

  •  whomever votes yes... (0+ / 0-)

    has to offer proof!

  •  Monday's going to be UGLY for Hillary (3+ / 0-)
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    soms, mpress, ObamaLovingExDemocrat

    ...Any bets on how many superdelegates come out, and or defect come the Monday news cycle.  In this situation, Obama doesn't really have to say a thing, just kick back with some popcorn and watch the meltdown.

    The cynic in me would normally say this gaffe gets buried over the weekend, but this one seems to have some serious legs.  I got the news late, busy entertaining visiting family.  I logged onto kos, picked up my jaw, and was about to write my own tyrade until I caught Olbermann on tivo.  He and so many others here have summed it up so well that there's really no point now....just sit back and watch the fallout of oh how far the mighty will be falling.

    Diarist, I do agree....that non-apology "apology" was probably just as tacky and insulting as the remark itself.

    "I'm sorry you were offended by a completely tasteless comment I never specifically apologized for.  I do regret that you're furious over this thought..."

    .......I'm beyond giving her the benefit of the doubt now. In fact, I'm beyond the doubt part.
    While I don't buy the idea that she was wishing the worst of "sending a dogwhistle" to her nuttiest suppoters, I do know it is time for her to get the hell off of my television for a little while.  

    Remember the Alamo? Sen. Obama, tear down this (fire)wall.

    by Ericwmr on Sat May 24, 2008 at 12:45:14 AM PDT

    •  Funny. I heard the dog-whistle. LOUD AND CLEAR. (3+ / 0-)

      Here's the irony.  Now that she's called the dogs, she would never be the substitute nominee.  NEVER.

      •  loud and clear..... (0+ / 0-)

        When I talked about "rejecting the dog whistle," I was saying I don't believe she was (intentionally) provoking her nutty supporters to take a shot at this....As for playing on the fears of delegates, that's different.  Given her pattern of repeating this point multiple times, there's a very good case to suggest she's engaging in the lowest form of fear-mongering as it comes to attracting delegates.

        That said, pandora's box is open.  God forbid something does happen to Sen. Obama, but if the worst came true, Hillary will be remembered as a bigger pariah than Nixon and McCarthy combined.

        Remember the Alamo? Sen. Obama, tear down this (fire)wall.

        by Ericwmr on Sat May 24, 2008 at 05:39:57 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  Except Monday's a holiday, right? nt (2+ / 0-)
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      •  Holiday. ah true...but who knows for sure. (0+ / 0-)

        ...A holiday for America, but maybe not for the talking heads.  For all our high minded ideas of having picnics and going to the lake, plenty of Americans will spend Memorial Day watching tv in their

        Good point butthis one isn't fading out anytime soon.  I will grant ya the increased likelyhood of Tuesday though, that's when the delegates will move and the water coolers will be dominated by comments like, "she said WHAT?!?!?!?!"

        Remember the Alamo? Sen. Obama, tear down this (fire)wall.

        by Ericwmr on Sat May 24, 2008 at 05:31:08 PM PDT

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  •  Your poll is missing an option (0+ / 0-)

    "I never believed HRC HAD ethics."

  •  Is it just me (4+ / 0-)

    or am I the only one disturbed by the fact that she took that little boy's bike money.  I feel so bad for that kid.  I feel like she should have gave it back to him or used her own money to buy him another bike (probably not legal though).  That really made me question her ethics.

    "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." -Plato

    by Snickers77 on Sat May 24, 2008 at 01:19:19 AM PDT

  •  Keep at it Obama people (0+ / 0-)

    You guys have nothing, your candidate is the least qualified in presidential history. This is all you have to work with. You keep saying the race is over yet Hillary is all you talk about.

    Do it - pile on, just like KeithO, go totally over the top.

    •  the problem with your comment catfish (2+ / 0-)
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      is that it belies your belief that i am merely an obama person.  indeed, that i am not a citizen whom is perfectly capable of being disgusted by clinton's actions regardless of whom i support.

      such assumption of my ignorance, as i point out in the diary, is actually a pretty effective tool. (no offense intended)

      but what you fail to realize is that not every american is as numbed by the clinton-reagan style hypnotism act as you think.

      and what obama has done is give them an excuse to believe that there are enough others like them to have the courage to stand up and defeat pandering, condescending, insulting would-be leaders like clinton. whose only real leadership quality is that of having no problem with telling everyone what to do and why she knows best.

      i didn't believe in obama's grand speeches.  i believed that america(ns) was/were too far gone to ever come back to sane democratic principles.
      yes, you cipher correctly if you understand the implication there: i believed in the same reality that clinton is a product/purveyor of.  cynicism, apathy, what have you.

      and even if i still have my doubts as to just how many americans are ready to follow obama along the path of aspiring to becoming our better selves, i refuse to let those doubts dictate my actions.  and in fact, have to work with all my might to do the opposite.

      meanwhile, you can continue to defend the lying, deceptive, grotesque candidacy that clinton embodies.

      and by all means continue to believe the complete fallacies you repeat in this comment... over and over to yourself like some mantra...

      and if i were to stoop to your level, i'd assume things about you that i have no right to, and i'd then tell you to go ahead and vote mccain, as i am sure you have threatened to do.

      •  Obama's mob will be tamed by the voters (0+ / 0-)

        either in the primary or the general. This is so out of control, this country is out of control. This internet mob is out of control.

        Watch the video, look at the newspaper's statement, she was talking about June.

        •  Your inability to think is out of control (1+ / 0-)
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          your candidate is the least qualified in presidential history.

          You might have qualified for the stupidest sentence I've ever read on DailyKos. No joke. In fact, I'd nominate you for Stupidest Comment on the Internets by Somebody Who Thought He Was the Webbies (and every other blog awards crap), if that was a category, which it obviously needs to be.

          •  Too much drama with Obama (0+ / 0-)

            Just want a president, not a messiah!

            •  least qualified in presidential history? (1+ / 0-)
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              Seneca Doane

              Stupidest thing I've seen from anyone on the internets in months probably. You've made Taylor Marsh look smart.

            •  ahhhh (2+ / 0-)
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              second gen, Lauren S

              now i get it, catfish.

              your ego cannot handle an inspirational leader who stands up for principles. you cling to cynicism because it's what you know and can "put your finger on". the "unknown" and uncertainty of aspiration to be truly better instills so much fear in you that you have to lash out and attack whatever might try to offer such ideals, out of a sense of needing to protect against rejection o let-down, which you of course deem as inevitable.

              your "reality" is safer.

              well yeah it might seem that way catfish.  but not for the thousands upon thousands who have died and been maimed in this war because most americans were lost in the same haze as you and followed the politics as usual "reality" - led by no less than ms/ clinton i might add, into this shithole.

              and well, i might add that in a way i know you're right, at least historically.  fear is a prime motivator.  but as america has helped prove on occasion, it is possible to overcome that and make the world a better place.  but such is no place for cowards who hide behind cynicism disguised as pragmatism.

              •  Principals like I can't disown my pastor (0+ / 0-)

                then weeks later disowning his pastor because "what was most galling, is he said I was a politician".

                Principals like saying Rezko is a friend, but if the verdict finds him guilty he will not be a friend?

              •  I don't find him inspiring. So sorry. (0+ / 0-)

                So what am I left with? A guy who gives grand speeches. A guy who can win elections. What else? I don't see much else there. A guy who was editor of Harvard Law Review.

                •  is it possible you can read and comprehend ... (0+ / 0-)

                  your own comment?

                  a guy who can win elections, and give speeches?  how can you quote the criticisms that were used against jfk and not be given some pause.

                  unless you also did not find jfk inspiring.

                  but even then, you may not.  but how can you deny that so many others do?  so many others than has been seen since 1968...

                  how about you stop viewing everything through your own pov and try instead to appreciate the big picture and views of your fellows?  

                  or is it such that one main reason some people follow hillary is because they share the same inabilities?

                  •  I appreciate the big picture. (0+ / 0-)

                    Obama speaks to some people, but not all. His speeches are nothing close to JFK's.

                    •  wait, you said he gave great speeches (1+ / 0-)
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                      but now they're nothing close to jfk?

                      and wait again, others, as in millions of other americans and global citizens as well, are being moved by those speeches.... so if they don't affect you similarly, their big picture result which is similar to  that jfk had on people and the world means nothing to you because you personally don't like him?

                      you know, a lot of democrats didn't necessarily like jfk either.  then after his near martyrdom suddenly everyone loved him.

                      after obama wins and defies the naysayers and enjoys a long immensely succesful presidency, i doubt you have what it takes to admit shit.  so i won't even try.

                      write hillary in or vote mccain, and do it loudly eh?  so that when you lose you won't be able to blend in to the crowd.

            •  p.s. eat it, cobag (0+ / 0-)


              I have to confess- I am celebrating Hillary’s implosion today. I went out earlier and had two glasses of wine, a spectacular grilled romaine salad with avocado and a raspberry vinagrette, and then a splendidly rare filet mignon in an oyster demi-glaze on a bed of asparagus. Because, you know, I am an elitist. And then I had a fat cigar.
              A few months back I was defending her, and was ready to vote for her, even after years as a Republican. And then I watched her campaign and I realized once again how repellent she is.

              Yeah, I really wish I could be more graceful about this, but since dinner, I have had a couple more drinks and I keep getting more ecstatic. In my defense, you know what you get when you come here, so deal with it. All praise the Giant Spaghetti Monster, please give us another pervert Republican this weekend and the week will be complete.

              Again, I wish I could be more tactful, but after watching her lackeys and her supporters spend the last three months with no real route to the nomination sniping from the sidelines hoping for an Obama disaster to propel OUR LADY OF INEVITABILITY to the nomination, you can consider this a pretty damned good day for me.

              But John, you say- she was just talking about the timeline. Whatever. Bye, Hillary.

              As a personal aside, I found that the self-immolation of the most narcissistic campaign ever washes down really fucking well with a Pinot Noir. Fuck off and good riddance.

              John +5 (for those of you who are new here and have no idea what it means, click the link)

              PS- In pure Clintonian fashion, expect her to play the victim tomorrow. Why, she just made an innocuous statement about the election timeline and all these Obama supporters are trying to push the little woman out.

              Fuck that nonsense. Buy some garlic and a wooden stake and tell her and her supporters to piss right off.

              Time for Hillary to pound sand.   She has no place in the race anymore, hasn't for weeks, but tonight shows that there's not one good goddamned reason for the Democratic Party to stand idly by while she continues her insane "act". Fuck that. She's done.

              Bye Hillary. Shove it up your ass, Carville, Penn, Wolfson, McCauliffe. All the way, assholes.

              catfish, you were saying without reason?  

              •  What a lovely sentiment (0+ / 0-)

                Victimhood 101, Obama style:

                The Obama campaign's decision to target Clinton's RFK reference forced the former first lady to express regret for her remarks.

                It also ensured that the dust-up would be covered on all three network newscasts.

                And how did the Obama campaign target her remarks?

                When Clinton referenced RFK's assassination while discussing previous Democratic nomination fights which stretched into June, she was quickly scolded by the Obama campaign.

                "Senator Clinton's statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign," wrote Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton in a missive to reporters.

                Burton's e-mail included a link to a New York Post story which noted that Obama, who received a Secret Service detail early in the campaign, has been the subject of threats.

                No she will benefit because he will look like such a shrieking victim we will all grow so sick of it (those of us who have not grown sick of it already.)

                •  Calling it "unfortunate" was being kind (1+ / 0-)
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                  second gen

                  to Hillary.

                  There is no victimhood there, simply a very heldback statement that hers was not appropriate.

                  Your interpretation reads like satire but I think you're actually being serious.  Amazing.

                  Why is it I'm supposed to care about Hillary in this race between Obama and McCain?  Because, she's simply making herself a laughingstock at this point.

                  Who could have seen that coming lol.

                  •  I might be asassinated! Don't talk about RFK JFK (1+ / 0-)
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                    MLK or Lincoln!

                    I am precious!

                    Burton's e-mail included a link to a New York Post story which noted that Obama, who received a Secret Service detail early in the campaign, has been the subject of threats.

                    •  I'm sorry, is that all you've got? (0+ / 0-)

                      No, really.

                      You cannot possibly be serious.

                      Obama calling Hillary's remarks "unfortunate" is him "abandonaing a 'presumption of good faith'"?

                      That's hilarious.

                      Let's please make sure we all spread the word to not comment on anything Hillary says, especially Obama, and most especially when she uses the analogy of assasination and 68 as more than half of her answer to the reporter today.

                      Really, you couldn't be funnier if you were intentionally trying.

        •  and to use june as a reference... (1+ / 0-)
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          she could have used any number of other - more accurate and applicable - references.

          this one she chose to use, as she implies - because the kennedies have been on her mind since the news about teddy, was one she also used in march.  wow, she should just work diagnosing brain cancer before it shows up on its own.  i'm sure she'd make enough to run for president as often as she likes, and chelsea too when she's old enough.

          what's more, is the other less despicable reference for june she made, bill's in 1992, also was not applicable to a late primary run.

          so you see catfish, if you want to offer any semblance of respect instead of hypocritcially calling someone mere part of a mob, the problem i have is that she was being not only distasteful, but once again very dishonest and distasteful to boot, and then refused to own up to it by blaming it on others or "anyone who may have been offended".

          and the "voters" you refer to who will tame the mob?  in case you hadn't noticed, their numbes have been engorged by large percentages this time around, thanks mostly to one mr. obama.

          in the end, sir, you will see the mob be tamed alright, in the mirror.

          and if not, if you cynicism "wins", then guess what?  america loses no matter if it had been hillary or mccain.

          because what needs to change, what needs to happen, is how politics is done.

          one candidate is offering - and living up to that.

          if you cannot face this, then you are bound to be lost to the filler pages of history along with all the others who were oh-so-aware of how "reality" worked... so much so that they continued to use their power to ensure just that: that it kept working that way, to their advantage, and the expense of the principles america espouses to stand for... but has not for a long time.

  •  But then (0+ / 0-)

    I never believed she had any ethical standards.  I probably should have abstained from that poll.

    My political advice for this lifetime...

    When dealing with a politician, don't listen to what they say to you.  Listen to what they say to the other guys.

  •  by the way, i know this moment will end (0+ / 0-)

    but the fact is, america needs it to have as long a run as it possibly can on its own without seeing it cut down prematurely as with so many in the 60's.

    if not, well, then the fan has officially been hit a tonnage and tonnage of shit.

    the continued "blowback" and results of an america that might be led by the likes of the savvy clintonistas and buscho as they continue to dominate the two party america into the future, will be more than enough to end all residue of america's greatness, and/or even the pretense of such.

    we'll just take our place alongside all the rest that tried but failed to be better...

    while others in the world pick up the baton we dropped and run away with it...

    and the rewards that go along with it.... such as being the bigger dog at the table economically.

    personally, i wouldn't mind us having to be more equitable and respectful.  but the kind of fall that we'll have coming if we don't stop this myopia that the clintons are only marginally better at than bush/reagan/nixon/lockheed/big-oil/etc, will be much worse than it has to be if we don't make the kind of choices that earn the proper respect.

    choosing hillary or any qualified politico in this machine we have come to accept will not accomplish such respect.

    and it's easy to see why, right down to the posts and comments made by clinton supporters:  because to get respect you have to give it.  and hillary doesn't respect anything except her own ideals and means to her own ends.

    unfortunately her supporters have been duped into supporting such behavior along with the candidate they thought was just a good democrat with some experience and ambition.

  •  Haven't even read the diary yet (1+ / 0-)
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    but you put PUPPIES as a choice!  OF COURSE I voted for puppies!  I am not a rational person in that respect.

    Always ask yourself: WWDD

    by karesse on Sat May 24, 2008 at 02:35:28 AM PDT

  •  Look at her fine daugter. . . (0+ / 0-)

    . . .Yes, she "F"'d up, but most of her beliefs are exactly the same as yours and she raised a pretty good daughter.  To say that Hillary has no ethics at all is foaming at the mouth hyperbole, brought on by the fact Obama supporters really don't realize that he won the nomination.  Lets disengage from the old and address the new.  McCainus.

    "Accepting the inevitable"

    by waztec on Sat May 24, 2008 at 06:40:18 AM PDT

    •  you know nothing of my beliefs, or hers (0+ / 0-)

      you only know the public image of her, and less of me.

      i appreciate your latter thoughts, but it's not over to the point that addressing her egregious behavior is not warranted.

      of course most focus should be on mccain, but she has played the largest role in preventing that very thing.

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