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[UPDATE: If you know of MORE instances, please post them in the comments section and I'll review to see if they should go into this timeline - Bruce Wilson]

[UPDATE X2: Paul Rosenberg, at Open Left, has just frontpaged this under the title The Cloud of Eliminationism Grows Over The Election]

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The New York Times editorial board concurs:

"We have no idea what, exactly, Hillary Clinton was thinking when she referred to the assassination of Bobby Kennedy in explaining her decision to keep on campaigning when it looks like there is virtually no hope of her winning the Democratic nomination.

(We’ve supported her decision to do so. This is a democracy, after all.)

But she could, at least, have apologized.

Instead, she issued one of those tedious non-apology apologies in which it sounds like the person who is being offended is somehow at fault: "I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, and particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive."

Here is how federally funded "Copycat effect" researcher Loren Coleman characterized in a Saturday May 24th, 2008 post: HRC Spreads Assassination Meme:

"Hillary Rodham Clinton let the political assassination meme out of the bottle! She unconsciously or consciously said she is staying in the presidential race just in case something happens. The copycat factor is a reality underlying assassinations, and she did the unthinkable."

Unlike Coleman, I am not ascribing intention here but I've compiled a fuller chronicling of 5 possible instances in which Hillary Clinton and her campaign have made statements that have accidentally floated the Barack Obama/assassination meme and, more specifically, the Barack Obama/Kennedy /assassination meme.

The Context

"Copycat Effect" researcher Loren Coleman puts Clinton's horrendous, apparently accidental May 23 remark in context :

Saturday May 24, 2008: Federally Funded "Copycat effect" researcher Loren Coleman has strong words for Clinton's "Obama-Kennedy-assassination" comments,

The power of words, the power of the media, and the power of graphic imagery cannot be underestimated in this political year, or any year. The fact that the vulnerable homicidal-suicidal mind of an assassin can and has been influenced by behavior contagion and the copycat effect cannot be disputed by anyone who is a student of assassinations.

Indeed, what was Hillary Clinton thinking?

The evening following Clinton's May 23 remark, Keith Olbermann, on Countdown, delivers perhaps the most scathing and morally outraged commentary of his career. Here's the core of Olbermann's critique:

She actually said those words.

**Those** words, Senator?

You actually invoked the nightmare of political assassination.

You actually invoked the spectre of an inspirational leader, at the seeming moment of triumph, for himself and a battered nation yearning to breathe free, silenced forever.

You actually used the word "assassination" in the middle of a campaign with a loud undertone of racial hatred -- and **gender** hatred -- and **political** hatred.

You actually used the word "assassination" in a time when there is a fear, unspoken but vivid and terrible, that our again-troubled land and fractured political landscape might target a black man running for president.

Or a white man.

Or a white woman!

You actually used those words, in **this** America, Senator while running against an African-American against whom the death threats started the moment he declared his campaign?

You actually used those words, in **this** America, Senator, while running to break your "greatest glass ceiling" and claiming there are people who would do anything to stop **you**?

You! . . .

The politics of this nation is steeped enough in blood, Senator Clinton, you cannot and must not invoke that imagery! Anywhere! At any time!

And to not appreciate, immediately -- to **still** not appreciate tonight -- just **what** you have done... is to reveal an incomprehension of the America you seek to lead.

This, Senator, is too much.

Because a senator -- a politician -- a **person** -- who can let hang in mid-air the prospect that she might just be sticking around in part, just in case the other guy gets shot -- has no business being, and no capacity **to** be, the President of the United States.

Good night and good luck.


Timeline of the "Accidental Assassination Meme"

April 10, 2000: John McCain says that, if elected to Robert Fitzgerald Kennedy's New York Senate seat Hillary Clinton would inherit RFK's legacy. AP News/CBS, April 10, 2000:

(AP) Sen. John McCain predicts that if Hillary Rodham Clinton were elected, she would be a "star" unlike any politician seen in Senate since Robert F. Kennedy.

McCain made those comments a day after he campaigned for Clinton's opponent in the New York Senate race, New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

"This is the first time in history a first lady has run," the Arizona GOP senator told Columbia University students on Monday.

"She would be a star of the quality that has not been seen in the Senate since Bobby Kennedy was elected senator from the state of New York."

October 15, 2007 JFK's closest living aid, Ted Sorenson, says Barack Obama is JFK's heir. (UK Telegraph)

December 27, 2007. Hillary Clinton, on Meet The Press, accuses Barack Obama's chief strategist David Axelrod of accusing Clinton of playing a role in the assassination of Benazir Bhutto. Clinton said Axelrod "accuses me of playing a role in Benazir Bhutto's assassination." [see Salon story for more complete transcript] But on on January , 2008 Albert R. Hunt, for Bloomberg News, writes:

"I was in the small group of reporters in Des Moines, Iowa, on Dec. 27, when Axelrod was asked if the Bhutto assassination would help the more-experienced Clinton politically. He disagreed and said the war in Iraq has "diverted" attention and resources from Afghanistan and Pakistan, bolstering radical elements, who may have played a role in the assassination.

That "diversion" argument is made by many Democratic politicians and foreign-policy experts, including Clinton advisers.

Whatever the merits of that argument, it isn't accusing Clinton of complicity in an assassination. Both Clintons had a professional relationship with Axelrod. Hillary Clinton and her husband, who leveled the same charge, know full well he wouldn't accuse her of playing a role in a murder."

January 7, 2008: Hillary Clinton, speaking to a crowd during the New Hampshire 2008 Democratic Primary, is introduced by Francine Torge, who tells the crowd:

"Some people compare one of the other candidates to John F. Kennedy. But he was assassinated."

January 9, 2008: Steve Bell, cartoonist for The Gaurdian, posts cartoon of Barack Obama with a shooting range target on Obama's chest.

February 1, 2008: Der Speigel floats Obama-Kennedy assassination meme.

February 25, 2008: The New York Times floats Obama-Kennedy assassination meme

February 26, 2008: Howie Kurtz, for the Washington Post, comments on the apparent circulation, by Clinton Campaign staffers, of a picture of Barack Obama dressed as a Somali elder. The picture pops up on right wing websites with titles alleging an Obama-Al Qaeda link. By May 12, 2008, notes Ali Etaraz on the Huffington Post, the Obama-Muslim smear had morphed into a veiled assassination threat via the claim, spread by right-wing and right-wing Jewish websites, that Barack Obama might be assassinated by Muslims because he's an "apostate muslim".

Hillary Clinton, March 6, 2008 [off-camera interview with Time Magazine]:

"Primary contests used to last a lot longer. We all remember the great tragedy of Bobby Kennedy being assassinated in June in L.A. My husband didn't wrap up the nomination in 1992 until June, also in California. Having a primary contest go through June is nothing particularly unusual. We will see how it unfolds as we go forward over the next three to four months."

May 12, 2008: Edward Luttwak, in a New York Times op-ed, worries that Barack Obama might be assassinated because of a perception that Obama is an "apostate muslim".

Hillary Clinton, May 23, 2008

"I don't. Because again, I've been around long enough. You know, my husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. You know, I just don't understand it. You know, there's lots of speculation about why it is."

Friday evening, May 23, 2008: Keith Olbermann, on Countdown, delivers perhaps the most scathing and morally outraged commentary of his career

Saturday May 24, 2008: Federally Funded "Copycat effect" researcher Loren Coleman has strong words for Clinton's "obama-Kennedy-assassination" comments,

The power of words, the power of the media, and the power of graphic imagery cannot be underestimated in this political year, or any year. The fact that the vulnerable homicidal-suicidal mind of an assassin can and has been influenced by behavior contagion and the copycat effect cannot be disputed by anyone who is a student of assassinations.

Indeed, what was Hillary Clinton thinking?

Her non-apology "apology" only has made this worse, and I predict will fester like an unhealed wound until she steps aside. Despite what she said in her "apology," she has not honored RFK's New York Senate seat with her actions of late. She little realizes the power of her own words if she allows this to continue, and sit there, waiting to further infect the nation, as we move closer to the 40th anniversary of the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy.

Clinton will not be to blame, needless to say, if a politician is assassinated or an attempt occurs during this campaign year, but to reinforce the climate of instability with these words is beyond belief.

If Hillary Clinton is steeped in history, then she surely realizes that an African American man, Martin Luther King, was assassinated a mere two months before Robert Kennedy was assassinated. The meme was there in 1968. Actions are followed by actions. Why give this life in 2008? Is Hillary Clinton truly a student of history or does she wish to make a mockery of it?

Was she thinking that, indeed, Obama would be killed, and thus she wanted to be waiting in the wings?

How can she look at herself in the mirror and stay in this race any longer?

What is the "Copycat Effect" ? - "The copycat effect is what happens when the media makes an event into a "hot death story" and then via behavior contagion, more deaths, suicides, murders, and more occur in a regularly predictive cycle"

Originally posted to Troutfishing on Sun May 25, 2008 at 06:42 AM PDT.

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    •  No, it doesn't. (3+ / 0-)
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      homogenius, C Barr, Laughing Vergil

      This is conspiracy-mongering.

      And the reference to Clinton's charge about Bhutto assassination is bizarre.

      You some good work Troutfishing, but this is shit.

      And extremely unhelpful. Obama has won. Let's start acting like it.

      I don't understand why more Obama supporters around here (I'm an Obama supporter, btw) don't start taking cues from the campaign.

    •  Rationale for the Irrational (1+ / 0-)
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      Using the potential of your opponents death is about as low as you can go but the Hillbots seem to believe that Hillbilly is their only chance in their lifetime to see a woman President so they drink it up and spew it out.    HRC's campaign is just the beginning for women in US politics not the apex - the sooner that you see that the better off our Party and country will be.

    •  Why are you doing this? (1+ / 0-)
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      C Barr

      Why are you diluting your work with this shit?

      This just makes me ill. You've been one of my heroes--anyone who stands up to the religious right occupies a special place to me.

      But now you're just another person stretching inference past the breaking point to pile on Hillary. Just another voice in the echo chamber.

      You have every right to express your opinion--hey, it'll be very popular around here. But you've seriously lowered my expectations, not that my respect is worth anything around here any more--I refuse to drink the koolaid.

      I hope it was worth it.

      Well fuck it all, I'm still not leaving. I'm too goddamn mean and stubborn to be run off by a swarm of annoying insects.

      by homogenius on Sun May 25, 2008 at 07:14:45 AM PDT

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    •  Terry McAuliffe MTP May 11, 2008 (2+ / 0-)
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      Anything can happen in the next three to four weeks.

      Thursday May 22 - BEFORE Hillary's "gaffe":

      Wolfson and McAuliffe both insist that she is not quitting and will campaign through the last primaries on June 3rd -- and until decisions are made on Michigan and Florida. They say she feels to do otherwise would be letting down her supporters. Despite the odds against her getting the nomination, Clinton aides say as long as people are still voting, there is always the chance something will happen and she ends up winning.

      Do you think George Stephanopoulos loves America as much as you?

      by MadAsHellMaddie on Sun May 25, 2008 at 07:35:17 AM PDT

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      •  Oh for heaven's sake, get a grip (0+ / 0-)

        Ever hear about the "Dean Screm", or "Maccacca"?  This is what political campaigns have become in the age of YouTube.  We examine every utterance of each candidate with a microscope until finally somebody trips up and says the wrong thing or screams too close to the microphone ... then it is replayed and examined endlessly.  This decides the election.  Well something did "happen", it was Clinton, not Obama who tripped first.  This website has gone over the edge.

        moderation in everything ... including moderation

        by C Barr on Sun May 25, 2008 at 07:51:02 AM PDT

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  •  It's been in the air all the time. (10+ / 0-)

    The unspoken thought behind the literally hundreds of times I've heard lead Clinton surrogates (McAulifee, Wolfson) say "something big could happen".  What "big" thing could that be?  Of course, there could be a plane crash, à la Paul Wellstone.

    And then it is repeated innumerable more times by "reporters".  They say, oh, some new scandal that hasn't broken yet.  Not vetted.

    And that is, of course, BS pure and simple.  Because a suspended campaign could be reactivated if "something big" happens.  The main effect, at least how it hits me, is to keep a constant taint of menace in the air.  And on the air.

    "You can't depend on your judgment when your imagination is out of focus."
    . . . . . . . . . Mark Twain

    by Land of Enchantment on Sun May 25, 2008 at 06:49:18 AM PDT

    •  And if they suspended the campaign (0+ / 0-)

      that would put her in the same category as Edwards and all the other former competition. It's hardly clear hat Obama supporters would jump to Clinton. If HRC suspended and something bad happened they'd lose their mojo. Against a movement to draft Gore, for example.

      Who was Bush_Horror2004, anyway?

      by Dartagnan on Sun May 25, 2008 at 07:25:39 AM PDT

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  •  The reality is this: (3+ / 0-)
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    Every senior member of her inner campaign circle has told her to stay in the race given the possibility that Obama could get shot. That's why it's at the top of her thought processes when she gets asked a question while fatigued. When you're fatigued the brain naturally wants to do the easy thing. The "easy thing" is to pull off the thought that's been at the top of your mental filing cabinet for a while and is the simplest to access.  So she blurts it out.

    Who was Bush_Horror2004, anyway?

    by Dartagnan on Sun May 25, 2008 at 06:50:29 AM PDT

    •  Fatigue caused her to "blurt it out"? (4+ / 0-)

      I just can't buy that.  Her March 6 off-camera interview with Time Magazine has the exact same points as what she "blurted out" on May 23.

      To wit:  1992.  Husband's campaign. June.  RFK assassinated in June.

      Once is fatigue, maybe.  More than once is deliberate, period.

      If we're not willing to boldly refute the lies, the lies will stand as truth. (-6.75, -6.72)

      by cn4st4datrees on Sun May 25, 2008 at 07:01:32 AM PDT

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      •  Nah, it's a talking point (0+ / 0-)

        That's what you do with talking points, you repeat them.

        And an terribly ineffective one at that.

        At most it may have subliminally reflected some dark thought, but that, of course, is just speculation.

        Probably needless to say, you'll judge this incident through the prism of how you already see Hillary. If you think she's a sociopath, as many people here do, you'll discern the darkest of motives. A more dispassionate observer would see something more benign. Me, I saw a stupid and strange way to reference a previous primary that went on for a long time. I could be wrong, but that's what I saw. The truth is, no one knows exactly what it reflected and the least people here could do is exercise a little humility in trying to decode motive.

        •  So you'd opt for the "incompetence" option ? (1+ / 0-)
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          Really - please come to grips with the effect of this accidental promotion of the "assassinate" meme.

          •  Yeah, I'd say so (0+ / 0-)

            But as I said, what we see is what we bring to it. I know a woman I respect who saw something vastly more malign. No one knows for sure, except maybe Hillary, about her motives.

            But I think there's a tendency to see Hillary as supremely calculating, as someone who weighs every single word, when it fact what we've seen is that she's a exhausted human being under enormous stress presiding over a less-than-stellar, conflict-ridden political organization. After she used the reference in Newsweek, some advisor shoud've said, ah, Hill...

            At the same time, there was a convergence of factors that made this story as big as it is: slow news day, Teddy's sickness, a bubbling over of unspoken fears for Obama's safety, good politics by the anti-Hillary forces.

      •  I don't think fatigue "caused her" to say it. (1+ / 0-)
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        I think fatigue resulted in her slipping up and failing to use it in the same manner as she did in the Time interview. Her inflection is really the key in Friday's gaffe. She's clearly (at least in my eyes) leaning on the fact of the assassination, as opposed to the timing issue.  That's the giveaway. In other words, I think it was deliberate, but fatigue prevented her from saying it as smoothly and "innocently" as she wanted to.

        Who was Bush_Horror2004, anyway?

        by Dartagnan on Sun May 25, 2008 at 07:10:49 AM PDT

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  •  i count two comments by Clinton (0+ / 0-)

    how do you get 'five'?  What does Benazir Bhutto have to do with it?  Keith Olbermann isn't part of the Clinton campaign!  Some of what you wrote makes no sense!

    louise 'hussein' to you! proud donor to "White Dudes for Obama" Endorsed 11/1/07 and never looked back!

    by louisev on Sun May 25, 2008 at 06:57:37 AM PDT

    •  I said CLINTON & CAMPAIGN (1+ / 0-)
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      Two different entities.

      Clinton -  X2

      Campaign - up to X3

      = up to X5

      •  I count one comment by a member of her campaign (0+ / 0-)

        and what does Benazir Bhutto have to do with anything, I ask again?

        So at the most, between Clinton (twice) and Torge (once) they referenced RFK's assassination (twice) and JFK's assassination once.  I don't get five anything.  Mentions of media speculation by pundits are not 'members of her campaign.'

        louise 'hussein' to you! proud donor to "White Dudes for Obama" Endorsed 11/1/07 and never looked back!

        by louisev on Sun May 25, 2008 at 07:22:05 AM PDT

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        •  Clinton staffers also circulated the Obama-Somali (1+ / 0-)
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          Picture. What work do you think that does ?

          And, I cite the Bhutto case because it generated some coverage with titles in which "Obama" appeared next to "assassinate".

          And, the Clinton campaign made it an attack issue. But, Alexrod did not say Hillary Clinton in any way directly somehow aided the Bhutto assassination. The Clinton campaign attack on Axelrod was beyond the pale. Alexrod was on good factual ground.

          Do you dispute that the fiasco in Iraq has effected Iraq politics.

          •  a truly conflated argument here (0+ / 0-)

            your thesis is that the Clintons and their campaign have brought up 'assassination meme' five times.  Benazir Bhutto has nothing to do with it, the Iraq war has nothing to do with it... Ben Smith said three days ago that Clinton has floated the RFK campaign in 1968 and the word 'assassination' twice, once in Time and once Friday in South Dakota.  The rest of your 'examples' are not even psychohistory, they are unrelated topics and simply wrong.

            louise 'hussein' to you! proud donor to "White Dudes for Obama" Endorsed 11/1/07 and never looked back!

            by louisev on Sun May 25, 2008 at 07:49:52 AM PDT

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            •  Do you dispute that on January 6, 2008 (1+ / 0-)
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              Hillary Clinton, speaking to a crowd during the New Hampshire 2008 Democratic Primary, was introduced by Francine Torge, who told the crowd:

              "Some people compare one of the other candidates to John F. Kennedy. But he was assassinated."

              That's solidly X3.

              You can quibble with my other two cases, but the January 6 instance is simply a fact.

              •  yeah so change your diary (0+ / 0-)

                Clinton Campaign mentions Assassination in relation to Campaign THREE TIMES. Not five.  The information is plain as the nose on your face, don't just exaggerate it so you can get more drama from it.

                louise 'hussein' to you! proud donor to "White Dudes for Obama" Endorsed 11/1/07 and never looked back!

                by louisev on Sun May 25, 2008 at 08:07:47 AM PDT

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            •  Okay, here's 5 for ya! (1+ / 0-)
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              I could see one gaffe, but when the Kennedy's tragedies have been mentioned at least 5 times.  It's just not a slip.  It is premeditated.

              Jan 7, 2008 - Dover, NH  Ref: Similarity between JFK & BHO & what happened in 1963 (assassination)

              March 6th - Times Mag interview (Assassination)

              May 7th - DC Fundraiser & Shepardsville, WV Press Confo. (on video) - 2 times (but modified...took out the most damaging word)

              May 7th - Interview with Major Garrett - JFK & MLK assassination

              May 23rd – Sioux Falls, SD (on video)– Interview with newspaper

              Then her excuse for an non- apology "IF" I’ve offended anyone, it was not my intent.."

              Who knows how many other times that she has referenced this without anyone bringing out to the forefront.

              Another example is the mailer that her campaign sent out regarding pro-gun.  It shows a rifle with Barack’s photo on the barrel.

              "hard working, white americans"

              He's not muslim, as far as I know

              The Farrakhan reference

              Geraldine Ferraro - Race issue

              Terry M & Howard W both stated:  "she's staying in this race to the end, you never khow what will happen".  (this could be taken lighthearted, but collectively, it not so slight).

              Do we see a pattern here!

              More appropriately to her arguement about the primaries lasting so long, she in incorrect about Bill still campaigning until June.  He actually had the nomination by March 20 th.  Further, the dates for which the start of the primary started were much later than they did this year.  Bobby didn’t even enter the race until later in the primaries.  Further, at that time, there was only a 13 state primaries. He was only in the race for about 7 weeks before he was assassinated.

              Further, she could have referenced 1980, 1984 or 1988 as a reference to the primaries going on longer because a nominee hasn’t been decided.  
              Why was RFK so important to mention?  There are no similarities between the 1968 & 1992 primaries. 1980 is a more appropriate comparison T. Kennedy/J. Carter.

              This was no accident.  She just got away with it 4 times previously.  Then on the eve of the anniversary of the incident RFK's tragedy and the prognosis of Teddy, she got caught and it will stay with her politically for a long time.  

              The news will be gone by tonight!  That's the sad news!

  •  good job as always (8+ / 0-)

    even if outside your normal focus of the so-called "Christian" right  :-)

    seriously, the meme of assassination has been out there, with it being a major worry for many in the AA community.

    Those who can, do. Those who can do more, TEACH! If impeachment is off the table, so is democracy

    by teacherken on Sun May 25, 2008 at 06:59:00 AM PDT

  •  if something happened (3+ / 0-)

    Seriously   if the unthinkable happened bypass Hillary and go to Gore or Edwards.It would just be to ghoulish to allow her to be the nominee.

  •  You do realize (2+ / 0-)
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    that while stating the copycat effect, by publishing this diary, you are actually adding to the effect.

    Everytime we write the words, the google count ticks.  

    For that matter, every time we give Clinton attention, the google count ticks.  By continueing to write about this, you give the both Clinton and the ideas written about in this diary more power.

    Obama has quite wisely decided to give Clinton and any campaign gaffes coming from her a pass.  He understands the need to not give the idea or the author any more attention than necessary.

    Think about it.

    Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard. -=-H. L. Mencken

    by crazyshirley2100 on Sun May 25, 2008 at 07:41:33 AM PDT

  •  GO GET EM' TROUT!!!!!!!!!! Whoo hoo! (3+ / 0-)

    I'm practicing to be a McCain troll, please tell me how I'm doing.

    by David Kroning on Sun May 25, 2008 at 07:44:19 AM PDT

  •  I took this quote from the link you gave (1+ / 0-)
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    Today, in Dover, Francine Torge, a former John Edwards supporter, said this while introducing Mrs. Clinton: "Some people compare one of the other candidates to John F. Kennedy. But he was assassinated. And Lyndon Baines Johnson was the one who actually" passed the civil rights legislation.
    The comment, an apparent reference to Senator Barack Obama, is particularly striking given documented fears among blacks that Mr. Obama will be assassinated if elected.
    Phil Singer, a Clinton spokesman said: "We were not aware that this person was going to make those comments and disapprove of them completely. They were totally inappropriate."

    Mrs. Clinton’s expression did not change noticeably when Ms. Torge made the comment.

    So much for misspeaking.  Hillary has been criticized for saying that JFK was not the one to finish the legislation, it was LBJ.  Was it a strategy to pound assassination into the minds of the supers?

    Strong unions for a strong America

    by realwischeese on Sun May 25, 2008 at 07:47:54 AM PDT

  •  Excellent Work! (4+ / 0-)
    I've just posted a frontpage diary at Open Left, "The Cloud of Eliminationism Grows Over The Election", highlighting, and copiously quoting this diary.

    Unfortunately, this is only just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to eliminationist politics.  

  •  Political assassinations do not happen (3+ / 0-)
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    in a vacuum. The run up to JFK's assassination had a good number of political cartoons and editorials feeding into the anger directed at Kennedy for not going to war over Cuba.  The same sort of thing happened to Reagan, Lincoln, Garfield and McKinley. The cartoons and editorials pandered to the secret death wishes as the solution to whatever crime real or imagined had been committed by those men.

    While this isn't exactly the same scenario, the whispers and shouts are the same and have the same effect of stirring up the basest emotions in America.  Please do not make the mistake of underestimating the danger of floating this along with elitist, sexist, Muslim, radical, terrorist, appeaser and on and on. Her use of assassination is really the final part of a larger message of Obama being dangerous. It appeals first to the angry, disaffected and dangerous in this country. Is it possible to purposely or even innocently whip these people into a sufficient frenzy one will act on this messaage? Absolutely.

  •  Super Ds and DNC Leaders (3+ / 0-)

    Super Delegates and the Democratic Nomination

    May 24, 2008

    After yesterday's "gaffe", "mis-speak" from Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, I am left with but one and only one possible solution for the Democratic Party to unite. I've read all of the news, all of the blogs, all of the blog comments on just about every possible website there is for such things. I must say that in my near fifty years of being on this planet, I have never known of such division within the same party. Although it seems that after yesterday there is a little more sway in the Barack Obama corner as opposed to the last  Clinton (FL and MI) "gaffe" and "mis-speak" equating it to disenfranchisement, Women's Suffrage, Zimbabwe and worse; The Civil Rights movement. All I can muster to say to Senator Clinton at this point is "shame on you" Hillary Clinton!

    And to the super delegates and the DNC, I say enough! It was acceptable for the party insiders to remain on the fence prior to much of what has been said and done. The spectacle of just how silly the whole thing is in politics especially with the old versus the new way of campaigning. I could understand the indecision and the wait and see attitude. At this point, I do not see or understand it. Not from the Democratic Party anyway. The party that is supposed to be the champion for the entire population of the United States of America, the under-served, the less fortunate, the minorities, women, children!

    I can see how Clinton supporters would be reluctant to find these last few incidents, a mere mistake. They are loyal, devoted, strong supporters not so much of her but of their own plight; be it an uneducated white person from Appalachia or a woman or an older white man who has lost a job because of "Diversity"or sat in the waiting room of a Government office to see a black or hispanic family receive benefits while they continue to have multiple children by different fathers and do not work. And for the record, let me say that I am an uneducated, white, older woman from the South. I grew up in the foothills of Appalachia. So I know full well how deep rooted and deep seated these white folk are. Their beliefs have been passed down from generation to generation. They are my family members. They are my neighbors, some (few) are my friends and they do at least in my experience "cling to their guns"and they are "bitter". I understand but I do not agree. I also know from experience that some will never change their minds. And I know that if the leaders of this party do not stand up and do something, there will be another civil war in America. Division in the party is one thing, but this is getting out of hand and it is becoming a division in this country among it's citizens. It is no longer politics. It is a way of life for many, an heritage. I have seen the white flight from neighborhoods, the terms that the white folk use when no-one else can hear (just a conversation in their own homes) as an example; "them blacks" or "the next thing you know, they'll be taking over" there is too much hatred running through the veins of many on all sides of race. And it isn't about white versus black alone, it is about Hispanics, Asians, Arabs, Jews or as it is referred to here in Birmingham, AL "sand-niggers, Dot-heads, Rag-heads, Japafuckingneese, Slant-eyes,". This is what needs to be changed in America first.  And in my point of view the only way to start the change is to have leaders, WHITE, men and women stand up and not only denounce but reject such hatred, meanness, ignorance. Do not condone the inuendo by remaining silent. By remaining silent, it breeds and festers and grows. Do not accept such grotesque excuses as merely referencing history. So I say ENOUGH! Get off your self-centered political duffs and do something now! Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Geraldine Ferraro are not remaining silent. They are instigating and clearly placing blame elsewhere without any regard to the consequences . I believe the term is referred to as "passive-aggressive".

    No, in fact they are, their supporters are, being very vocal. And they are playing to the ones that can't see the forest for the trees. Do not think for a second that just because someone is uneducated means they are stupid. We are not. We are just not as worldly as someone with an education, or as open-minded. It is not that we are stupid, just mis-informed and sometimes blind to anything that is happening outside of our own little spot on this earth, because we are hard-working and have little time for the bigger scheme. We do not know history or politics the way that educated people do. We only know what we see and feel and live on a daily basis. And it happens on both sides of the racial divide. Do you not think that Hillary Clinton knows this? Why do you think she stood and smiled and was gracious when she was being introduced as having "testicular fortitude"? What an insult! From a supporter of women's rights, a woman who has been the hope of many women to break that final glass ceiling, she played right along with the "good ole boy" version of why she should be elected.  Because she is really a man? She has testicles?

    I have an Hispanic daughter (adopted at birth) that I had to remove from the public school system. I grew up being called by my own family members a "nigger-lover". I know what I am talking about. I have lived it, I have had my life threatened and I am telling you, you'd  better put an end to this right now. Do not wait until June. Now, today! There is indeed a fierce urgency of now! And I am not just quoting here. For the first time for me, this phrase means more than just rhetoric to make a point. Enough!

    "I may be many things, but one thing I am not is dumb" said Hillary Clinton and she is absolutely right. She's not and she is never to be under-estimated. She knew exactly what she was doing and saying because she wants to win this election. We are to learn from history and if you as a party leader cannot see that history is on the verge of repeating itself in an horrible way, then you'd better go back to school and relearn what you thought you knew. This is not about politics any longer. It is personal on too many levels for too many people. It is not 1968 or 63, but that doesn't mean that some uneducated, unsophisticated folk are not still in that same mindset of the Civil Rights era or the Civil War for that matter. As Americans we have come a long way, but in the foothills of Appalachia...not far enough, not even in 2008. To make a point, I would even venture to stress to you that a national holiday that a lot of white folk enjoy by having a paid holiday from work is all that it is about. An off day with pay; not a celebration of what Martin Luther King, Jr. stood for and died for. And as a white woman, I will also dare to speak the truth that it is not even secluded to the Appalachian areas, I have crossed the paths of many white folk in my life that were from CA, NY, TX, OH, AR, and CO who have the very same mindset as Appalachians. So stop looking at the polls and start seeing it for what it really is. It is fear, fear of the unknown, ignorance.

    It is in your hands, leaders of the Democratic Party, Super Delegates, Pledged must TODAY choose to remain silent and suffer the consequences of not just your party, but your country or stand up and put all of your strength, support and heart behind the only candidate that can change the direction this country is headed. The only one that can because he has lived it personally and knows in his heart the truths that I speak and knows that it is our downfall as a collective body of what he and I are both so very proud of.

    Stand UP!

    Sincerely and respectfully,

    I have a dream too...

    by Bamalooney on Sun May 25, 2008 at 09:12:23 AM PDT

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