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So, the Climate Change legislation is on the floor.  sort of.  They are debating an amendment, actually a complete rewrite, of the bill supported by Boxer (D), Liebermann (I) and Warner (R).  The vote two days ago was for cloture so the Senate could debate the bill.  Some good speeches yesterday on both sides.

Today, the Republicans have decided that they want the Clerk to read the entire amendment/substitution.  It's probably 200+ pages, being read word for word by the clerk(s).  Whenever one of the sponsors request to dispense with the reading, an R on guard objects, forcing the clerks to continue.

The Republicans are doing this delay of debate because they are objecting to how slow things are going on Judicial nominations.  We'll be able to do nothing for at least the rest of the day.  It's the equivalent of a filibuster, but without the Republicans from having to do anything themselves.  They've figured out how to make the clerk do all the work.

Can somebody tell me if it is possible under the rules of the Senate to require that ALL SENATORS be on the floor for the entire time that a bill is being required to be read?  I doubt it, but we have to take control of things somehow.  This is going to take days!

Originally posted to chadlupkes on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 12:50 PM PDT.

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Comment Preferences

  •  that IS insane. (2+ / 0-)
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    Randall Sherman, natalie902

    Fear is the foundation of most governments. -John Adams

    by DuppyConqueror on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 12:52:47 PM PDT

  •  tip jar (10+ / 0-)

    What can we do to stop this?

    If Democrats have a pre-911 view of the world, Republicans have a pre-July 4th view of the world.

    by chadlupkes on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 12:53:12 PM PDT

  •  7 more months. (0+ / 0-)

    7 more months.

    I want to see McCanes secret stash of Abramoff transcripts. I believe he used them to blackmail his way to the Repug nominee.

    by ghett on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 12:54:49 PM PDT

  •  Can they vote to end this? (0+ / 0-)

    Is there a way they can demand a vote on the floor on whether the clerk should continue?

    If Democrats have a pre-911 view of the world, Republicans have a pre-July 4th view of the world.

    by chadlupkes on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 12:57:47 PM PDT

  •  Like children (1+ / 0-)
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    chadlupkes

    laying on the ground, kicking their feet.

    I can't wait until the Republicans are properly dispatched.

    "Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." - Oscar Wilde

    by greendem on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 12:57:51 PM PDT

  •  Message to the clerk (3+ / 0-)
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    steve davis, KozmoD, SciVo

    Hey, you have thousands of people listening to you.  At least try to have fun with this!  Change your voice up and down at random, then droll on for a bit in a monotone.

    If Democrats have a pre-911 view of the world, Republicans have a pre-July 4th view of the world.

    by chadlupkes on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 12:58:59 PM PDT

    •  Ha, with 200 pages he could practice funny voices (0+ / 0-)

      ...for a second career moonlighting as a voice actor for animation. ;)

      McCain '08: because a magical money fairy will keep us from having to tax rich people! And if you believe that, I have a country to sell out from under you.

      by SciVo on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 01:38:55 PM PDT

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    •  re: chadlupkes's comment (0+ / 0-)

      Hey, you have thousands of people listening to you.  At least try to have fun with this!  Change your voice up and down at random, then droll on for a bit in a monotone.

      Lol, I hear what you're saying. But think, that must be such a pain to have to speak like that for hours and hours. I would think you would get a really sore throat, and maybe even lose your voice, no? Plus, most of this is legal language and quite boring, to be honest. If I were a clerk, I think I'd be quite pissed and I'd want to get out of there!

  •  Sorry, no sympathy here (1+ / 0-)
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    soonerhq

    I personally think Senators should read all of every bill they vote on, and I doubt there's any good excuse for a 200+ page amendment. If you're going to tell me that it's not practical for Senators to read every bill, then something needs to be changed in the system and the rules, maybe many things. Maybe they need to vote on fewer things. They definitely need to stop the practice of inserting things into bills once they've been voted on. I'm a progressive Dem, but on this matter, I don't care if it's a Dem's bill or a Republican's bill, I want full attention paid to it before anyone leaves for lunch or dinner or whatever with their favorite lobbyist. This goes for everybody.

    Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction -- Pascal

    by RJDixon74135 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 01:23:10 PM PDT

    •  Not required (0+ / 0-)

      Senators are not required to be on the floor at any time other than when they vote.  Maybe they should be required to be on the floor whenever business is being conducted, but it would make things move even slower.  Business is conducted at the same time that hearings are held.  Can't be in two places at once.

      What about the idea that if a Senator has not been on the floor for most of a debate about the bill, they cannot vote on that bill.  Probably just as unworkable.

      If Democrats have a pre-911 view of the world, Republicans have a pre-July 4th view of the world.

      by chadlupkes on Wed Jun 04, 2008 at 01:26:19 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  re: RJDixon74135's comment (0+ / 0-)

      I also think that Senators should read every bill they vote on. But does that mean that it should be read aloud in the chamber, thereby halting all other work in the Senate? If they did this, they would spend the entire year just reading the legal language of bills. Maybe I'm just being overly sympathetic, but I also feel bad for the clerks. It's one thing to do a hard day's work, but to have to speak on end for hours upon hours (days upon days) just seems...not very workplace friendly, anyway.

  •  Motion to suspend the rules? (n/t) (0+ / 0-)
  •  Thanks for writing about S. 3036! (0+ / 0-)

    I can't believe that this isn't on the front page! This is a much bigger deal than more recycled primary stories, at least imho.

    The clerk has been reading the bill since 12:50 p.m. EST, according to C-SPAN. That's almost 9 hours straight, and still going strong. As I'm watching right now, the poor clerk's voice is going and she keeps having to stop to drink water.

    I am so upset that the Republicans are forcing this. (I know if I were a clerk, I'd sure be mad too!) C-SPAN says that they're doing this to protest judicial nominations. I am so disgusted at their blatant disregard for the wellbeing of this country.

    After hearing Senator Sessions call Senator Reid "clueless" this morning because of the Democratic position on Climate Change, I made calls to multiple Senators, along with the Majority and Minority offices of the Environment and Public Works Committee. I'd encourage everyone else to make calls too (The bill is S. 3036). One of the Republicans' big arguments is that this bill is totally against what the "average Americans" want. Let them know what they're mixing up the wants of real Americans with those of oil corporations.

  •  Quorum Call @ 9:49ish P.M ET (0+ / 0-)

    They're calling the roll now after Senator Reid just spoke. Anyone know what's happening now?

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