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This diary was inspired by One Carolina Girl. There have been many people who have offered thier opinion of who should be the Vice-Presidential candidate, also there have been any number of reasons offered as to why this or that person would be the best candidate, in the end none of it matters. With that in mind I offer my own candidate who I feel is above and beyond all other considerations. This is a man who will not only change the discourse and throw "the right" off guard but someone who can and will take it to them in a way they have no answer.

In case you haven't clicked on the link come across the divide and let me explain who this is and why he would be the ultimate weapon when standing next to Barack Obama.

Republicans are 95 % corrupt, Democrats are 75 % corrupt~my mominee

At this point you have probably visited one of the links and hopefully you were paying attention. This man will probably never be considered or accept, I understand that but imagine someone willing to call bull**** when it is needed, someone that has the knowledge of the system to cry foul when appropriate. Now picture that same guy with that name standing in front of America saying this...

You want to grab America you send this man to the hills in West Virginia, the valley in Ohio, the coast of North Carolina, the shores of California, the shops in Michigan and the swamps of Louisiana. You let this man ring the bell "the boomers" have been beating for years. Imagine those who feel left behind who would see so many of thier dreams reawakened in the voice of what might have been and transformed into what might be again. Just picture Barack Obama and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. standing side by side on a stage and what that image would mean for America and the world.

Here is where I make my argument;

a)

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.'s reputation as a resolute defender of the environment stems from a litany of successful legal actions. Mr. Kennedy was named one of Time magazine's "Heroes for the Planet" for his success helping Riverkeeper lead the fight to restore the Hudson River. The group's achievement helped spawn more than 130 Waterkeeper organizations across the globe.

Mr. Kennedy serves as Chief Prosecuting Attorney for the Hudson Riverkeeper and President of Waterkeeper Alliance. He is also a Clinical Professor and Supervising Attorney at Pace University School of Law’s Environmental Litigation Clinic and is co-host of Ring of Fire on Air America Radio. Earlier in his career he served as Assistant District Attorney in New York City. He has worked on several political campaigns including the presidential campaigns of Edward M. Kennedy in 1980, Al Gore in 2000 and John Kerry in 2004.

b) Not only is he strong environmentally he has the type of name recognition nationwide not so much for his out front style but exacty for the name itself. Another point is that he has the take no prisoners attitude that would serve well in any campaign.

c) None of the options offered inspire true change or hold the ability to provide an excitement about the future this ticket could. There would be something about a young Kennedy that would truly engage even boomers that remember the promise of what might have been, and could picture the possibilities of what might be.

Now I understand some will dismiss this and it doesn't really matter because this is just one idiots opinion among many. For a moment imagine the visual and phsychological effect of Robert Kennedys' son standing next to the first African American nominee. That in and of itself would add percentage points you couldn't garner by other means.

And don't forget he will tell 'em how the cow eats the cabbage...

Caroline call your cousin, at least put him on the list.

Originally posted to LaEscapee on Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 09:03 PM PDT.

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  •  Watcha think (17+ / 0-)

    how would you like this guy carrying the mantle alongside Barack?

    Edwards Democrats ActBlue LA-01, NC-08, IN-06, KY-01, NC-09, IA-03, WA-08, DE-01

    by LaEscapee on Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 09:04:48 PM PDT

  •  I think he needs someone who's held an elected (4+ / 0-)
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    office or is a general in the military.

  •  Someone with an election behind them would help (3+ / 0-)
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    I really like what RFK jr stands for, but he has a very unfortunate voice for politics.

    Don't think that'll happen.

  •  anywhere on the Obama team O wants him (5+ / 0-)

    but yes, Robert F. Kennedy,Jr. definitely belongs on the team and in the administration. (my pick- justice on the Supreme Court).

  •  I'd like to see him in charge of the EPA. nt (12+ / 0-)
  •  I'll tell you why not (5+ / 0-)

    Because he believes in the vaccines/autism junk science.

  •  I'm tired of people getting elected simply on the (1+ / 0-)
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    sagesource

    basis of their last name.  That goes for Bush, Clinton, Kennedy, Gore and all the rest.  Make it on your own, pols.

    Republicans don't govern, they trickle upward.

    by djohnutk on Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 09:25:03 PM PDT

  •  Love the idea (6+ / 0-)

    I agree this would be great for our party.   I have always been a huge fan of RFK.  But I had not considered him for the VP.  Thanks for bringing this up for discussion.  

    His position on autism/vaccines is to "Green the vaccines."  How can anyone be against that?  We put healthy foods in our bodies, why can't we make the vaccines safer/healthier?

    We have so many great potential VPs. Gore and Clark are on the top of my list - RFK Jr is now up there, too.  But I remember what someone said here a few weeks ago - Obama is so smart, that he is going to chose someone we never thought of and when he announces we will all sit back and go - Wow, of course!  That makes perfect sense.  

    I look forward to my amazement...  

    "Never doubt that a small group of concerned citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead.

    by smell the coffee on Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 09:30:45 PM PDT

    •  Thank you (3+ / 0-)
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      I just thoughty I would start a discussion beyond the same names but obviously because of my id it's poo ppo'd before it got started, I expected no less.

      This really wasn't serious, even though I do love the fact Jr. raises hell and tells the truth. Oh well maybe one day I'll learn my lesson that everyone here is more smarter than me.

      Edwards Democrats ActBlue LA-01, NC-08, IN-06, KY-01, NC-09, IA-03, WA-08, DE-01

      by LaEscapee on Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 09:35:07 PM PDT

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    •  "Green the vaccines" is still terrible. (2+ / 0-)
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      It's morally reprehensible to suggest to  mothers of vulnerable young babies that there is something "wrong" with vaccines, that they aren't "environmentally friendly."

      Yes, within the pharmacology field, within the pediatrics field, within the health science field, professionals should be able to discuss ways that vaccines can be made safer or better for the environment.

      But going to the public and telling women to "question" their pediatrician's vaccination schedule is a public health risk.

      (I've seen Jenny McCarthy and others doing this as well.  It infuriates me endlessly.)

      WARNING: There is a high probability that the preceding comment is snark. Use your best judgment (hopefully better than Senator McCain's).

      by Anarchofascist on Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 10:33:14 PM PDT

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      •  Oh yes (1+ / 0-)
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        vaccines were always the answer, think of all those old Native Americans that... oh wait it was when they started....

        Edwards Democrats ActBlue LA-01, NC-08, IN-06, KY-01, NC-09, IA-03, WA-08, DE-01

        by LaEscapee on Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 10:35:23 PM PDT

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        •  Huh? (2+ / 0-)
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          I really don't know what you're trying to say here.

          I do know, of course, that vaccines, along with clean drinking water and antibiotics, is one of the biggest reasons life expectancy at birth has skyrocketed from the 30s to the 70s in just a couple centuries.

          WARNING: There is a high probability that the preceding comment is snark. Use your best judgment (hopefully better than Senator McCain's).

          by Anarchofascist on Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 10:44:47 PM PDT

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        •  Not sure what you're talking about (0+ / 0-)

          but intentionally infecting a people to greatly reduce their numbers is genocidal, and has nothing to do with vaccination.  What was done to the Native population in North America was not vaccination, but it was murder.

          Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -6.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.67

          by bythesea on Thu Jun 19, 2008 at 03:09:45 AM PDT

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  •  RFK Petition (2+ / 0-)
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    Here's a petition you can sign to encourage RFK to run - it says 08, but it is also about 2012 and 2016.

    http://www.ipetitions.com/...

    "Never doubt that a small group of concerned citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead.

    by smell the coffee on Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 09:33:43 PM PDT

  •  Sure, he's great (0+ / 0-)

    But obama already has the "kennedy" mantle.  We don't need more Kennedy.

  •  Bobby Jr has been a tireless advocate for the (3+ / 0-)
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    environment.  I like and respect him. I don't agree he would be the best choice, not only because of what AdamB noted, but because he has fought wind energy implementation in Hyannis Port (I can't tell you why right now), and, sadly his past.  His experimentation with drugs (heroin, cocaine, etc.) was pretty intense during the early 70's.  Although I would love for us to move oved pass this type of politcs, we haven't yet, and right now, his choice would hurt more than help. Your idea is noble because he has done so much to promote a clean environment.  He's a good guy with too many skeletons.

  •  RFK Jr is better than Obama or Edwards (5+ / 0-)

    I am pulling for an Obama/Edwards ticket because that's our best bet in November but neither of them can compare to RFK Jr, a true Lefty Liberal (similar to our Dennis Kucinich). RFK Jr's relationship with Citgo (and by extension Venezuela & Chavez) would be far too hot politically for Obama to pick him.  I wish that our country was open-minded enough to elect folks like RFK Jr but that's not happening - at least not today.  But if we can get Obama (who's really more of a centrist) in, that will be a first step into making our country progressive enough to make someone like RFK Jr. president.

    Donate to the ACLU. Stand Up for Justice In The Military Commissions Proceedings

    by Valhalla on Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 09:43:34 PM PDT

    •  What's a lefty to do? (4+ / 0-)

      You see the response from the learned Valhalla. Everytime I post here I get the same thing, "STFU and get in line". Welcome to New Traditionalism

      Meh

      Edwards Democrats ActBlue LA-01, NC-08, IN-06, KY-01, NC-09, IA-03, WA-08, DE-01

      by LaEscapee on Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 09:52:41 PM PDT

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      •  Learned? Are you snarking at me? (0+ / 0-)

        I don't get what your problem is if you are.  I have voted for very left-wing people my entire life until 2004 when I realized that the GOP was so evil that I had to vote for Kerry even if he was less than ideal. If George W Bush had been as "benign" as his father and the GOP were merely fielding a freak like Romney instead of a warmonger like McCain, I might even consider voting Green.  But we are not that lucky. George W Bush and John McCain are so damn dangerous that we have to get Obama in -- even if he's far from perfect. Just because I point out that Obama can't risk putting a "Chavez-supporter" on his ticket doesn't mean I'm telling anyone to STFU.  I want Bobby Kennedy Jr to be president more than I want Obama to be President.  The problem is that we have a Radical Right-Wing Corporate Media that has so twisted our politics that Republicans are Fascists and Democrats are Centrists.  There is no credible Left-Wing in this country and we need to think about realistic was to change the political nature of this country so that Republicans are Centrists and Democrats are Left-Wing.

        And I don't get what the link is supposed to mean.

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        by Valhalla on Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 10:11:59 PM PDT

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        •  You misunderstood (2+ / 0-)
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          I understand where you are coming from and I wasn't referring to you at all.

          Just kind of disgusted at this point that there can be no discussion because of the automatrons around here.

          As far as the link, read it again and if you still don't understand I will gladly point out the relevant points.

          Edwards Democrats ActBlue LA-01, NC-08, IN-06, KY-01, NC-09, IA-03, WA-08, DE-01

          by LaEscapee on Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 10:18:02 PM PDT

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          •  Sorry, its' late (2+ / 0-)
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            I still don't get the link but maybe tomorrow when I have fresh eyes.

            And honestly, I get frustrated, too, forcing myself to like Obama even when I don't because the alternative is so awful.  I find it painful that a real hero like Kucinich is mocked and ignored when he & a only a few Democrats are actually standing up for our Constitution.

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            by Valhalla on Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 10:21:46 PM PDT

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            •  Just a tip (2+ / 0-)
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              What does this remind you of

              "Our movement will be entirely destructive, and entirely constructive. We will not try to reform the existing institutions. We only intend to weaken them, and eventually destroy them.
              "We will use guerrilla tactics to undermine the legitimacy of the dominant regime.

              We will pick off the most intelligent and creative individuals in our society, the individuals who help give credibility to the current regime.

              We must learn to treat leftists as natural disasters or rabid dogs.

              One must give them dreams and ideals that have been put in terms they can understand, and that touch their hearts, as opposed to their rational minds. If we cannot capture the imaginations of our members, then we cannot expect our members to make great sacrifices for us.

              College students must be a key audience for our movement, since they are free of excessive time commitments and they find themselves in an environment that (theoretically) encourages activism and exposure to new ideas.

              We must reframe this struggle as a moral struggle, as a transcendent struggle, as a struggle between good and evil

              Edwards Democrats ActBlue LA-01, NC-08, IN-06, KY-01, NC-09, IA-03, WA-08, DE-01

              by LaEscapee on Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 10:25:02 PM PDT

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              •  Neo Con Men? (1+ / 0-)
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                LaEscapee

                This sounds like the GOP playbook.

                One must give them dreams and ideals that have been put in terms they can understand, and that touch their hearts, as opposed to their rational minds.

                I've said many times that voters are irrational but what I should have said is that right-wing & swing voters are irrational (and it is irrational to vote for idiotic GOP policies). Clearly the GOP is operating on emotion. I think that's what makes Obama so promising for us -- he's a charismatic figure who also inspires emotion in folk and hopefully that will act as a counter the GOP. That actually might even explain why Obama/Edwards polls so well -- it might speak to some of those swing voters on an emotional level. (Because rationally speaking since their policies are so similar, it shouldn't move the ticker one way or the other if Edwards is on the ticket.) It also explains why Al Gore, who always tried to appeal to folks intellects, was undermined by "friendly" beer drinking Bush. As Democrats, we have to be careful not to "overthink" things but instead understand how the GOP operates in order to counter them.  I was glad to see Obama start wearing the flag pin, for example, because it was a waste of time to argue with folks that the symbol didn't matter when clearly people had an emotional attachment to it.

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                by Valhalla on Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 10:43:54 PM PDT

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  •  Man, I did not mean to send that impression. (3+ / 0-)
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    I value your opinion, and Bobby Jr, for sure has done much to benefit our country, but me thinks he's just too damaged.  He's a good lefty, but some lefties can't be in the Executive Branch, but that doesn't mean that others can't.  In time, my friend, in time.  We will not give up and no, I don't think you have to be perfect to serve, and  Obama isn't, but he's got the "special thing" going for him.  He's not JRE, though. I prefer direct democracy, but not sure it's a strategy that's winnable.

    •  No (2+ / 0-)
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      you didn't, and I understand fully what you are saying about experimentation and all the other stuff. If there had been any attempt at discourse from those dismissing out of hand then this could have been a cool conversation. This was put up as a place for discussion and your comment which had merit is appreciated, it's those that just dismiss any notion other than what they deem fit and attempt to squelch anything not in line, the same bunch, that are tiresome. Notice the same clowns everytime.

      Thanks for the comments and sorry if you thought I was referring to you.

      Edwards Democrats ActBlue LA-01, NC-08, IN-06, KY-01, NC-09, IA-03, WA-08, DE-01

      by LaEscapee on Thu Jun 19, 2008 at 12:24:54 AM PDT

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  •  Fascinating Idea! (2+ / 0-)
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    Wow.

  •  I believe I read once (3+ / 0-)
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    that he is interested in holding his father's seat in the Senate. Maybe that's why he endorsed HRC?

    He is a good man to be sure and Obama could do much worse.

    "I thank you, sir. But you'd better be president. You've got to be president." Jean Weiss

    by Guadalupe59 on Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 10:44:40 PM PDT

  •  RFK Jr has a few loose nut ideas rattling around (4+ / 0-)
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    He's part of the vaccines-cause-autism conspiracy theory, among other things. I like the guy, he's a fine advocate, but not an effective communicator nor actually much of an experienced politicians. RFK's name may be magic to this crowd but it does not resonate in the electorate at large, much less RFK Jr's.

    I might consider him for EPA, but not VP.

    Call me any ugly name you choose --
    The steel of freedom does not stain.
    -- Langston Hughes

    by TheCrank on Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 10:54:08 PM PDT

  •  One night I was watching the Daily Show (0+ / 0-)

    I had my head turned away from the screen (was on my laptop) and hadn't heard who the guest was. I was just listening basically. As the interview progressed, I thought - "what the hell is wrong with that guys voice?" It sounded warbley and somewhat like a woman.

    I was shocked when I found out it was RFK Jr.

    He just doesn't have the same gifts his father had, but seems like a good guy.

    VP material though? Not with television cameras around. It's harsh, but true.

  •  The Kennedy name is poison in parts of America. (1+ / 0-)
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    Yes, many of us remember Camelot and mourn for Bobbie. Many of us have immense respect for Teddy as the liberal lion of the Senate.

    But across large swaths of blue-collar America, the Kennedy name is pure poison. It stands for Chappaquiddick, for unearned wealth and privilege, for JFK romping in the White House pool with secretaries, for boffing the underage nanny, for auguring into the ocean in an expensive airplane because of arrogant mistakes.

    It represents all the hereditary elitism that drove Richard Nixon to superhuman effort to defeat it. This is the engine that drove white conservative rage at those 'entitled' smug rich bastards.

    And it's electoral poison from the breadbasket Midwest to Appalachia to the entire South.

  •  Just make him head of EPA (0+ / 0-)

    and I'll be happy.

    We have only just begun and none too soon.

    by global citizen on Thu Jun 19, 2008 at 04:12:49 AM PDT

  •  He's a fraud. (0+ / 0-)

    His anti-scientific self-serving "crusade" against supposed vaccine involvement in autism shows this clearly. Shamelessly exploiting the grief of parents to stoke his own ego -- he isn't fit for dogcatcher.

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