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Another week that starts with a parade of suspension bills. This is not unusual, by the way. The schedule starts to get a little heavy with them towards the end of a session, though, and we're getting to that point with the August recess just weeks away, and the campaign trail looming.

So Monday starts with an exciting array of suspensions, kicking the work day off at 12:30 -- also not unusual for the House. Remember, everybody's flying in from their home districts after the weekend, so starting work at 12:30 isn't the lackadaisical schedule it appears to be. Unlimited one minutes and other morning business (i.e., talking about anything you want to) takes up the early afternoon, then debate -- such as it is -- begins on 12 suspension bills at 2:00, with votes on those bills postponed (pursuant to clause 8 of Rule XX) until 6:30.

Tuesday's still got 22 more suspensions on the slate.

From late Tuesday, when they've dispensed with the suspensions, work begins on bills subject to rules:

  • H.R. 5876 - Stop Child Abuse in Residential Programs for Teens
  • H.R. 6275 - The Alternative Minimum Tax Relief Act of 2008
  • H.R. 3195 - ADA Restoration Act
  • Two Native American land claims bills -- H.R. 4115 and H.R. 2176 -- dealing with claims of the Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians and the Bay Mills Indian Community, respectively
  • H.R. 6052 - The Saving Energy Through Public Transportation Act of 2008

On the Senate side, work begins at 3:00 today, with no votes expected. Work continues on H.R. 3221, the American Housing Rescue and Foreclosure Prevention Act of 2008, last punted back to the Senate in mid-May.

No floor action is scheduled yet on the supplemental or on FISA, but it's expected early this week, with Congress set to recess after Friday's session for a one-week district work period for the July 4th holiday.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:20 AM PDT.

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  •  Hmm, a lot of red-eye flights. (3+ / 0-)

    I expect there will be a lot of cranky Congresscritters this morning...

    •  Can't be any crankier than their constituents! (6+ / 0-)

      Or at least this one.

      "If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich." JFK - January 20, 1961

      by rontun on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:30:16 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Kagro- (7+ / 0-)

      You're the expert on this, so I want to ask you...

      I had heard over at MyDD that the Senate was expected to take the FISA bill up on Thursday.  If I am not mistaken (and there's a good chance that I am), any filibuster, even if cloture is invoked and it gets the 60 votes, automatically gets 30 hours of debate.  Wouldn't it theoretically be possible then to try and delay taking the bill up until the afternoon on Thursday, have Dodd invoke a filibuster, and then try and run out the clock.  I suspect that the Senate will not be keen to hang around that Friday past six.

      This obviously wouldn't be a permanent solution, but it would buy us some time over the recess to give our Senators hell about it.  As at a previous juncture with this abomination, what we especially need right now is some time to marshall support and apply pressure.

      Anyone have any thoughts on this, or have I hopelessly misinterpreted the parliamentary rules here?

      •  Excellent! Hope it plays out that wat. (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:

        Tell Obama: Vote No on FISA, Support the Constitution

        by hideinplainsight on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:50:30 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  You do get 30 hours after cloture. (4+ / 0-)

        But one of the reasons they may be taking it up on Thursday is that they were technically entitled to take it up as soon as it was reported passed in the House, which was late last week.

        If someone had objected immediately to taking it up, and had filibustered the motion to proceed, and there had been an immediate cloture motion filed on that motion to proceed, you could have had a vote on that cloture motion as soon as today. Then 30 hours of post-cloture debate on the motion to proceed, a vote on that motion, and then you would have been on to consideration of the underlying bill as soon as late Tuesday/early Wednesday. Then you could filibuster that, file a cloture motion, wait the required two days for the cloture motion to ripen, and then find yourself voting on cloture... well, around Thursday.

    •  starting at 12:30 cause they are coming from home (1+ / 0-)
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      ummmm....   doesnt everyone come from home to work on mondays?  I understand that house members have to fly to DC to go to work but have the airlines stopped flying on Sunday nights?

      "Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran" is NOT a coherent Mid-East Strategy Mr McCain

      by KnotIookin on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:54:25 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Primary a Blue Dog in Ga! (5+ / 0-)

    even though some proclaim the sky will fall, we have an opportunity to give a poorly-functioning "Dinocrat" the penny loafer errr... the boot.

    Note the smart people arguing vociferously for not touching him lest the sky fall and water burst into flames.

    How, exactly, does one become so grovelingly obsequious?

    I was picked on as a child but eventually learned to fight back.

  •  'suspensions' = ... skipping 'normal' process (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    rontun, CityLightsLover

    and since the 'normal' process is FUBAR - ed the process now grinds down with attempts to suspend the process ...


    excuse me for NOT using lingo / jargon / correct language for my question ... I have a real job ;) when I'm not blogging.


    Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look; He thinks too much: such men are dangerous

    by seabos84 on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:23:51 AM PDT

  •  We have to have a bill to stop (3+ / 0-)
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    Ken in MN, ColoTim, CityLightsLover

    child abuse in residential facilities for teens? What is wrong with America that stuff like that has to be legislated?

    I am extraordinarily patient, provided I get my own way in the end.

    ~Margaret Thatcher

    by Muzikal203 on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:23:54 AM PDT

    •  Texas is one. (0+ / 0-)

      There have been many reports of abuse of teens in "private treatment" centers in Texas and elsewhere.  "Boot camps" & "send them into the wilderness and see if they survive camps," are two that come to mind.  There are research based, effective treatment programs that DON't get funded because of ridiculous efforts of those in power to fund their friends.  This also applies to "reading" programs foisted on public schools which did not go through the usual "research, effective" listing because they weren't researched nor effective.  

  •  On reading Hunter... (2+ / 0-)
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    ColoTim, CityLightsLover

    The people who introduced me to this site strongly recommended I read Hunter, and I agree with their assessment.  I've always been struck by the epic nature of his posts. Still, while I enjoyed reading him, something was always missing from the experience.  It took me awhile, but I think I finally figured out the best way to read Hunter:.

    <iframe src="" style="width:478px;height:261px;border:0;margin:0;padding:0;" scrolling="no"></iframe>

    "Maybe the only gift is a chance to inquire, to know nothing for certain. An inheritance of wonder and nothing more." —William Least Heat-Moon

    by wide aperture on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:23:55 AM PDT

  •  Congress takes bush to court today (10+ / 0-)

    to fight over subpoenas issued to bolten and miers.

    when this happened under reagan, court tossed out as political question per congressional request. this time bush seeking a toss...let's hope the court sees this as bushie violating law and orders enforcement of congressional subpoena.

      •  Bought and paid for! n/t (3+ / 0-)

        "If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich." JFK - January 20, 1961

        by rontun on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:34:37 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  bush so OWNS this judge (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Simplify, CityLightsLover

        Bush appointed him in 2001, and he worked with Starr in Clinton investigations.

        here is some crap he has done:

           *As a District Court Judge, Bates dismissed the GAO's effort to learn with whom Vice President Dick Cheney's energy task force conferred.

           * On July 19, 2007, he dismissed a lawsuit filed by Valerie Plame Wilson and her husband against Vice President Dick Cheney, White House political adviser Karl Rove, former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby and former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage. Plame's lawyers had said from the beginning of the lawsuit that it would be quite difficult to win, since public officials and servants are generally immune from such suits filed in connection with their jobs. Plame's identity as a CIA field operative was revealed in a syndicated newspaper column in 2003. This revelation coincided with (Plame's husband) Wilson's criticism of the Bush administration's policy in Iraq. Many opponents of the administration question the timing of the leak of Plame's identity, and assign blame of the leak to officials in the administration. Although several administration officials were questioned in an investigation of the leak, no formal charges were brought, and I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby was then found guilty of lying and obstruction of the investigation as a consequence of his lying. President George W. Bush consequently commuted Libby's sentence, preventing him from doing any prison time at all.[citation needed]

           * "Dismissed a lawsuit by outed spy Valerie Plame and her husband against Vice President Dick Cheney and other top Bush administration officials." Judge Bates stated in his ruling that the couple's allegations "pose important questions relating to the propriety of actions undertaken by our highest government officials," but that he had to dismiss their claims for jurisdictional reasons. While saying the Bush administration officials' actions "may have been highly unsavory," Bates nonetheless ruled "there can be no serious dispute" that speaking to the press to rebut Wilson's criticism was "within the scope of defendants' duties as high-level Executive Branch officials."

           * "In a December 30, 2002 decision, Judge John Bates of the U.S. District Court ruled that lead plaintiff Representative Dennis Kucinich and 31 other Members of the House of Representatives have no standing to challenge President Bush’s withdrawal from the Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty without congressional approval. He also ruled that the case presents a "political question" not suitable for resolution by the courts."

        but at least issue has finally moved to courts instead of congress just bowing to bush... and then there is appellate review ...and wishing for justice!

  •  If Feingold CAN stall FISA trough next weekend (4+ / 0-)

    there's likely opportunities to catch your Senators face to face at 4th of July parades, picnics, etc.

    Score some old reel to reel tape as props. If you and an accomplice toss them back and forth you get a bigger visual cloud, like TP.

    Obama still gets my vote, but my bumper belongs to Privacy '08.

    by ben masel on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:29:06 AM PDT

  •  Procedural FISA hurdles? (3+ / 0-)

    Given that the votes are there to beat a filibuster, is there anything else Reid can do to keep it from getting a vote?

    "Mom, baseball, apple pie, and a unified Democratic juggernaut.

    by Purplepeople on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:29:13 AM PDT

  •  War Crimes Conference (1+ / 0-)
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    I did a quick search of diaries and didn't see anything posted about this.  It's a post on

    Bush 'war crimes conference' to convene in Mass.

    January 20, 2009: The swearing in of President Barack Obama

    by BlueInRedCincy on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:32:29 AM PDT

  •  Suspension bills ?????? (1+ / 0-)
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    You overestimate the knowledge of your audience.
    Wottinell is a "suspension bill"?

    "The three main issues in this campaign are Iraq, Iraq, and Iraq." -- Bill Foster

    by Frank Palmer on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:32:53 AM PDT

  •  Thanks for the word on (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Wordie, flumptytail, CityLightsLover

    the ADA restoration Act. I'm teaching a special ed workshop on eligibility issues and this really brings home how disability isnt something youre born with but is something defined by medical and legal authorities. You just led me to some course content!

    Who's surprised that the Congress has to come back to the 1990 ADA and explain to the Courts "we didnt mean for you to interpret it so narrowly!"  

    •  OK...I'm a little confused. (1+ / 0-)
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      I thought it was the "ADA Restoration Act" (of 2007) too, but now I've seen it referred to as the "ADA Amendments Act of 2008." Are these essentially the same, or is the latter a revision of the former? I understand there was a compromise worked out between disability activists and the business community, which initially was deeply opposed to the new bill, so maybe the "ADA Amendments Act" incorporates the results of those negotiations? Or????

      "I'm asking you to believe. Not just in my ability to bring about real change in Washington...I'm asking you to believe in yours." - Barack Obama

      by Wordie on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 01:40:58 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Was cleaning out my desk and came across somethin (3+ / 0-)

    It was a receipt for gasoline from March, 2001.  I paid 1.339 for a gallon of gas, and filled up my car for under $18.  Had I acted then upon what I suspected - that two oilmen in the White House would have meant high prices for oil - I could have made a fortune.  Then as now, though, I refuse to invest in companies that I feel prey off their customers, and that's kept me from the high markups of oil and defense contractors during these seven years.

    And I'm still poorer than W's friends for that.  I sleep well at night, though.

    •  I remember (0+ / 0-)

      paying less than $1/gallon in spring of 2002.  I was in KC, and pulled into a gas station that had gas priced at less than $1, because, as I told Dad, this is the last time I will ever see gas this cheap.  Wasn't being prophetic, just that I knew this valley in gas prices was not going to last.  Little did I know how high they would go and how quickly.

  •  Conyers is set to vote out (5+ / 0-)

    three Articles of Impeachment to stop U.S. involvement in Iran. We have to ask what's taking him so long.

    Get Skinny For Barack! Skip Lunch! DONATE NOW!

    by ezdidit on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:36:52 AM PDT

  •  asdf (2+ / 0-)
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    flumptytail, CityLightsLover

    Dailykos has surpassed 1 billion page views.  The current count is 1,000,280,718.

    McCain housing policy shaped by lobbyist

    by sgilman on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:37:02 AM PDT

  •  Stones (1+ / 0-)
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    Picture a bright blue ball just spinnin' spinnin' free. It's dizzy with possibility.

    by lockewasright on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:38:49 AM PDT

    •  that was good (1+ / 0-)
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      this is better:

      McSame is a 'don't tax-still spend' repug

      by deutschluz on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:50:10 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  oh and the text accompanying this vid is great: (3+ / 0-)

        My critique of popular culture. The video serves two purposes. My first goal was to draw upon the Frankfurt School's idea of Culture Industry (which Rage so eloquently articulates in "No Shelter"), and create a connection between consumption (pop culture), a militaristic foreign policy, and terrorism. I had been grappling with the concept of subversion. In postindustrial capitalism, a subversive idea poses no real threat to the status quo. Something that is anti-establishment can only reach critical mass by way of the market, therefore it's growth is its own undoing. Take for instance Rage Against the Machine. Its message is clearly anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist and anti-American in the hegemonic sense of the term. Theoretically, Rage could serve as a catalyst for revolution, raise class-consciousness and open the eyes of the disenfranchised. Yet, as Rage's message picks up steam, its channels of distribution begin to change. Rage is now a music video, a poster, a product of the culture industry. The market appropriates Rage's message, repackages it and sells it devoid of its initial subversiveness. The classic example of this is the commodification of the iconic image of Che. What once was the face of revolution is now no more than a hat, or t-shirt; a testament to globalization as it is most likely made in China. Onto my second goal. I was left a bit disillusioned, having realized that no counter-cultural or anti-estabilshment movement can withstand the all mighty market. It occurred to me that something could only be subversive if it works in the reverse manner of the market. I would reappropriate existing products of the culture industry and use them against itself. This entire video is all footage from television and film which I downloaded off of Limewire or off the web.

        McSame is a 'don't tax-still spend' repug

        by deutschluz on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:51:18 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Rage absolutely rocks!!! I am a deadhead, (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:

          James Taylor, CSNY type of guy.  As a matter of style Rage is a real departure for me and I still love it.  Prescient stuff.  

          As far as social statements go,  I've always really liked this one:

          The "more info" link at youtube has the lyrics typed out.  They're worth a read for sure.

          Picture a bright blue ball just spinnin' spinnin' free. It's dizzy with possibility.

          by lockewasright on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 10:15:01 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  British use "vacuum" bombs in Afghanistan (4+ / 0-)

    The British paper the Sunday Times reports on the use of a particularly horrible new weapon obtained from the US. This is a perfect example of why the war in Afghanistan being continued will make the US more and more hated abroad. Both Obama and McCain  want to send more US soldiers there.

    The Sunday Times report includes the following description:

    "Apache attack helicopters have fired the thermobaric weapons against
    fighters in buildings and caves, to create a pressure wave which sucks
    the air out of victims, shreds their internal organs and crushes their

    •  Does it do the same thing to innocent bystanders? (1+ / 0-)
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      Or does it just get enemy combatants. Sheesh!

      US out of Iraq AND Afghanistan!  Let Obama know how you stand.

      Cut the 'Defense' spending, outlaw this and other type of inhuman weaponry, get rid or our nukes.

      Increase State Department budget and appoint Hillary Secretary of State.

      Obama/Edwards 08

    •  Can You Just Imagine (1+ / 0-)
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      First Light

      if all this intelligence was used for...oh...curing cancer or HIV/AIDS? Perish the thought...

      "If I ever lose my mind I hope some honest person will find it and take it to Lost and Found." George Carlin

      by CityLightsLover on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 11:19:46 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Articles of Impeachment? (4+ / 0-)

    Conyers ought to be ready to vote three Articles of Impeachment out of the Judiciary Committee today.

    ...torture, mostly...maybe even genocide...but most certainly abuse of power and obstruction of justice.

    As he said in October 1974:

    "...Impeachment is difficult and it is painful, but the courage to do what must be done is the price of remaining free."

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    by ezdidit on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:47:09 AM PDT

    •  Sadly McCain and Obama agree on impeachment (0+ / 0-)

      They're both against it.  

      They both:

      -want to send more troops to Afghanistan
      -want to increase the size of the US military
      -don't support Single Payer health care

      Some alternative.

  •  David (1+ / 0-)
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    Which of the bills has the "administration" threatened to veto?

    The doctor said I wouldn't have so many nose bleeds if I kept my finger outta there. - Ralph Wiggum

    by jim bow on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:54:34 AM PDT

  •  MoveOn gets no more money (0+ / 0-)

    The Candidate gets it all.

    I'm putting him over the top so I can see what happens.

    And I'm letting the people of Illinois tell him what they want him to do.

    Can't wait till my Obama shirts get here.

    YES we CAN!

    BREAKING! Senator Obama wants bush to spy on his campaign!

    by eroded47095 on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 09:55:21 AM PDT

  •  McSame: 'develop amazing tech breakthrough and... (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Skid, CityLightsLover

    win a prize!'


    McCain, during a town hall-style meeting at Fresno State University, is expected to propose a $300 million prize for whoever can develop an automobile battery that "has the size, capacity, cost and power to leapfrog the commercially available plug-in hybrids or electric cars."

    Apparently what's stopping engineers from coming up with batteries that are smaller, cheaper, more efficient, and more poweful than conventional hybrid car batteries is a lack of monetary incentive.

    Now I'm wishing I hadn't thrown away those plans for that ultra efficient battery! Do'h!

    Ann Coulter in the interview from hell:

    by pullbackthecurtain on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 10:25:58 AM PDT

    •  Speaking of McCain, his former captor speaks. (2+ / 0-)

      'When John McCain was my captive' via BBC:

      Four decades ago, during the Vietnam war, Mr Duyet was in charge of the notorious Hoa Lo prison - the place where Mr McCain says he was brutally beaten and tortured during five-and-a-half years as an American prisoner of war.

      "McCain is my friend," said 75-year-old Mr Duyet as he feeds the caged birds he now keeps in his garden in this coastal city.

      "If I was American, I would vote for him."

      Its almost surreal to read.

      "Its a grave digger's song, Praising God and State. So the Nation can live, So we all can remain as cattle. They demand a sacrifice..." -Flipper

      by Skid on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 10:57:12 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Better Make Sure It's Actual Coin (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:

      instead of McCentury points!

      "If I ever lose my mind I hope some honest person will find it and take it to Lost and Found." George Carlin

      by CityLightsLover on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 11:21:25 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Many things are not patentable (0+ / 0-)

      because they are considered legally obvious by patent examiners.

      Patents can also easily be written incorrectly.

      It may be that a claim that is distinct simply can't be written because the English language is just too ambiguous.

      The Japanese language is Kanji-based, so it is easier to write distinct claims in Japanese.

      It may also be impossible to get a patent because something is considered a rearrangement and therefore legally obvious.

      •  I'm sure McCain (0+ / 0-)

        and his campaign fully researched the issue and have offered the prize specifically for the reasons you just outlined above.

        Or maybe he's just a slimey fucking politician who will say anything that sounds nice to make it seem like he cares about the subject at hand.

        Ann Coulter in the interview from hell:

        by pullbackthecurtain on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 01:40:35 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Creatility? (1+ / 0-)
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    On the bright side, if McCain is elected, we don't have to get used to having a president who has a functioning vocabulary.

  •  Information on Oregon's Convention Delegates (0+ / 0-)

    Is available in my diary here:

    "Polls are like crack, political activists know they're bad for them but they read them anyways."-Unknown

    by skywaker9 on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 10:28:54 AM PDT

  •  re FISA, I notice that an awful lot of (0+ / 0-)

    not-explicitly-political web sites are nonetheless sticking it to Obama for supporting telecom immunity.  Of course he says the opposite, but everyone knows that politicians' words and actions are two different things.

    Here is Slashdot: House Votes For Telco Immunity; Obama Will Support?

    I saw a couple others during the weekend that I'm having trouble finding right now.  But Obama is getting the crap beaten out of him including by crossover republicans.

    Most interestingly, the bill is described as a telecom immunity bill.  The other aspects of it are basically ignored and irrelevant.  Supporting any aspect of the bill equals supporting telecom immunity regardless of the politician's claims otherwise.

    Miscalculation city, Barack.

    Hawkish on impeachment.

    by clyde on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 10:30:29 AM PDT

  •  Omert is toast! (1+ / 0-)
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    This is a vote of no confidence., the majority has no confidence in what has proven to be a lousy government, and there are going to be elections later this year.

  •  Flight attendant opens exit door mid-flight! (0+ / 0-)

    Sure it was on the ground in Kansas City, but it pisses me off. I hate it when they sell you a single flight that lands halfway and 95% of the passengers are changed. That used to be called 2 flights.

    Deranged neoconservative militarism isn't the solution to nuclear proliferation; it's a cause. -- Glenn Greenwald

    by factbased on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 10:40:02 AM PDT

  •  RNC is looking for volunteers (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    for their convention.  It seems they can't find enough Republicans in Minnesota to volunteer and help visiting 'thugs find their way.  

    I wonder if there are any Kossacks in MN who might be interested?

    Si los pendejos volaran, no se veria el sol.

    by ivorybill on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 10:42:24 AM PDT

  •  Conyers Abandons his past Support of Natives (1+ / 0-)
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    Conyers over the last eight years has gone from profound supporter of Native american rights to now opposing tribal land claims in his own state!

    Conyers calls the Sault Ste. Marie tribal land claims "questionable", along with 52 of his colleeagues.  

    As a member of the Sault Ste. Marie Tribe and former Conyers staffer, I can tell you that Conyers is being misinformed by a misguided staff.

    Our tribe has legitimate land claims to much of the Upper Pennisula, land north into Canada, along the St. Mary's River, down through Lake Huron and across much of the Northern Lower Penninsula.

    I'm not sure who is staffing Conyers on Native American issues these days, but donuts to campaign dollars, it's not a Michigan Native American.

    •  A lot of Members see Native American claims... (0+ / 0-)

      as code for "casino."

      Theoretically, that shouldn't matter. But some of them get nervous about that, especially when the BIA hasn't made any findings on their own.

      It's not right, but that's what's often at the heart of otherwise inexplicable behavior from people you consider friends.

      •  friends (0+ / 0-)

        Oh I'm very much aware.  As I said, I handled Native American issues for Conyers for some time.  

        It's interesting though, that Congress will abrogate treaties, "the supreme law of the land", after placing Native Americans (in our case on postage stamp size reservation for a tribe of 29,000), and then complain when we seek to create economic development via casinos.

        Michigan, for example, was one of the states which outlawed the use of race as a factor for pretty much anything.  Well tribal affiliation is a political classification, but we're still not necessarily allowed to use that in state bidding contracts these days.

        As I wrote in my letter to the editor for the Hill on the Cherokee Freedman issue, now is not the time for the CBC and Democrats to be picking fights with tribes, given we have an election in four months.

  •  so - why no listing of Medicare legislation? (0+ / 0-)

    I guess the Medicare legislation that will be taken up tomorrow isn't very important - or at least not enough to make this list?

    Or the fact that it might include cuts to Bush's precious Medicare Advantage plans and he is threatening a veto?

    I'd think 44 million Medicare recipients might disagree with you on whether or not it should be mentioned Kagro....

    •  Did you mean HR 6331? (0+ / 0-)

      It's the first suspension on Tuesday's list. I opted not to list all 35 suspensions, in the interest of saving front page real estate for an open thread.

      I also have no information that the president threatens a veto of it. I get that information from the White House's list of Statements of Administration Policy, and there's no listing for HR 6331 there at the moment. It might be too new to have been added.

      I appreciate that you would attribute it to a horrible and secret bias against people who need medical care, though. That was very helpful of you.

      •  Let's extrapolate (0+ / 0-)

        You're right that it isn't listed - because it was just introduced in the House.  But, it is essentially the Baucus legislation in the Senate - which is S 3101 - which is listed on the SAP Index you linked to.

        Two articles of note to get you up to speed on what the legislation is and how it ties in to Senate action and Bush's actions:

        National Journal:

        Over in the House, the chamber will take up an 18-month Medicare physician payment patch under suspension of the rules Tuesday, a bill based largely on legislation by Senate Finance Chairman Max Baucus.

        Baucus' bill failed to advance on the Senate floor largely because it attempts to reduce government payments to private Medicare Advantage insurance plans by requiring them to contract with healthcare providers.

        House Minority Whip Blunt predicted Friday it would fail to get the required two-thirds vote in the House for the same reasons.

        The scheduled 10.6 percent physician pay cut takes effect July 1 unless a patch is enacted.

        Kaiser Daily Health Policy Report:

        the House on Tuesday is expected to vote on a Medicare physician pay patch that would block the scheduled 10.6% cut for 18 months and increase physician payments by 1.1% in 2009. The cut is scheduled to take effect on July 1. Senate and House Democratic leaders are negotiating a Medicare package, and those talks are expected to result in compromise legislation, Carey says. However, significant support for the House bill could put pressure on the Senate to act before the Fourth of July recess, according to Carey. The House measure would be financed by cuts to indirect medical education payments under Medicare Advantage. It also would require private MA fee-for-service plans to establish provider networks in some areas to improve accountability and transparency. Other offsets would include using $1.1 billion from a "Medicare Improvement Fund" and ensuring that Medicare providers pay their taxes on time.

        Given that Blunt is trying to maintain a veto-proof vote and the Baucus bill was threatened with a veto - I'd say that the House bill faces a substantial veto threat if it was to make it through the House and Senate.

        But, you do bring up a larger point which I didn't notice in the first post.  The agenda of Congress merely is the introduction to an Open Thread?  Wow - I had overlooked that.

        In response to your post, I am sorry I seemed to attribute your oversight to a horrible and secret bias against people who need medical care.

        It's obvious that an intro to an open thread indicates that you really are deeply into educating folks about the issues before Congress.  

        •  Wow, you're winning huge points. (0+ / 0-)

          You, of course, are doing what to educate anybody about the agenda?

          •  apparently, educating - you (0+ / 0-)
            Since we had our first exchange, you might have noticed from the vote today that this issue was news since:

            A). Republicans broke in a big way to it,

            B). They had a veto-proof majority

            So, Republicans caved.  Big story!  Right?  Uh, not so much.    

            The only "point" I'm involved with is how you missed the story.  If you think I care about winning points here you are as sadly mistaken as you were for putting all the legislative work under an Open Thread....

            And if you get educated about the issue you missed... so much the better. Hell - now you know that this legislation faces a veto, and you certainly weren't aware of that the other day.  

            Call it my "No front-pager left-behind" program.

            But don't worry or take it too personally, it's not just you - it isn't like anyone else in the blogosphere is paying much attention to the legislative calendar and fights like this.  If it isn't FISA it isn't worth fighting.  At least you make an attempt.

            •  I assume you're an expert in every other bill. (0+ / 0-)

              And what a wonderful bonus it will be to have you lecture us about them daily!

              I have to assume you're thoroughly versed in every other pending bill in Congress. Otherwise you'd never be justified in being such a dick about your pet.

              But I "missed the story" today. Nevermind that the story I was writing was, "What's in the Majority Leader's daily alert."

              Why, oh why couldn't it have been, "Everybody talk about what's on DBJ's mind?"

              You haven't educated anybody about "the agenda." You've educated us all about a single bill that you've done -- as far as I can tell -- nothing to actually tell anyone anything about before today.

              But not a thing about "the agenda." Because there were another dozen plus bills on "the agenda," and you ignored them all.

              •  oh, snarky one (0+ / 0-)

                Now why would I want to lecture every day about legislation - why duplicate your efforts?

                And a fine series on procedural maneuvers you have going, I might add.  

                Your sarcasm, personal attacks and name-calling are kind of sad really.  Is that what you stoop to instead of a discussion - calling someone a "dick" and acting like I'm unreasonably expecting people to care about my "pet" legislation?  Is resorting to those rhetorical devices omething else you picked up on the Hill besides procedural machinations?

                No - I was just talking to you.  In fact, I thought I might be doing you a favor by pointing out legislation that wasn't mentioned that might be newsworthy.  But your attitude was that since there wasn't a SAP and you'd never heard of the House legislation that the information must be mistaken.  A little reminder - sometimes information comes from places other than the pages of official government publications.

                As to ignoring bills - well, that was the start of this entire converstion wasn't it?  If I recall you had ignored all the legislation on the suspension calendar because it was too long to list or something like that.  And then yesterday you listed out the suspension items - what in the world could have prompted the change?

                And, no, I haven't been trying to talk about this issue by writing diaries or commenting here.  In fact, I recognize that this issue isn't one the Kos community is really interested in at this point - not with FISA and the election going on.  But I've been doing plenty to tell people about it before today - Kos isn't the only place for communication on the web you know.

                See, now that wasn't so hard.  All that typing and I never once had to call you names or impugn your motives.  But I'll give you a pass - perhaps your fingers were tired and your brain was numb from posting yet another scintillating procedural article on Senate process.  What's next - a three part series on tabling motions and motions to recommit?  How about proper methods by which to yield the balance of time?

  •  Rohrabacker (bacher?) just now (0+ / 0-)

    I think I must have misunderstood.  I just heard him (however one spells his name) SLAM his party for not amending the Bankruptcy bill (a long time ago) to protect Reserve and Guard members, who were, are, and will be deployed overseas, from the means test.  I don't have a link.  I just came in and I think they were doing one-minute speeches.  If anyone can get the video or a transcript, please post it.  Thanks!

    I really, really, REALLY don't like that guy but this was a big deal to me....

    -7.62, -7.28 "We told the truth. We obeyed the law. We kept the peace." - Walter Mondale

    by luckylizard on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 11:39:20 AM PDT

    •  Rohrabacher (1+ / 0-)
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      Madam Speaker, today marks the culmination of work that should have been finished long ago. On April 14, 2005, the House of Representatives considered S. 256, the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005, which was a much-needed and responsible reform. Then in minority, my colleague, Ms. Schakowsky, introduced a motion to recommit so that the bill would allow a targeted exemption from the bankruptcy means test for those National Guard and Reservists who had been called up after 9/11. At the time of the floor debate, I was told by the Republican floor manager that the Schakowsky motion was redundant, that there was already such protection for our National Guard and Reservists under the Service Members Relief Act. For this [reason] I voted against the motion and it failed on a party line vote. 200 yeas, 229 nays. I soon found out, however, that I and other Republican Members had been misinformed, apparently to prevent the then minority from having any legislative success.

      Yes, disabled veterans are exempt from the new bankruptcy means test. But not activated Reservists and National Guardsmen. The men and women torn from their jobs and families, sent overseas to protect us were not to be given any consideration under the Republican bankruptcy law unless they were disabled. Ms. Schakowsky's motion sought to correct that. In order to prevent even one success by the other party, the leaders of my party threw aside considering the well-being of our returning heroes.

      A returning Reservist or National Guardsman who possibly left a lucrative job to answer the call of duty gets the same tough means test as anybody else. If they fail they [are] presume[d] to be abusing the system. Well, yes, they can then rebut the presumption of abuse by demonstrating a special circumstance before the court. They can beg, they can jump through hoops, they can hire lawyers and then it is at the discretion of the court to grant these homecoming heroes special circumstances and to allow them a Chapter 7 filing. This should have been in the bill in the first place as well [and] Ms. Schakowsky's motion should have been accepted by the majority. It's a shame that it didn't. The Schakowsky motion would not have killed the bill, as some members have argued since. In fact because the motion asked the judiciary committee to report the bill forthwith, we could have considered that bill that same day. Even if that were not the case, as now we hear from my side so often as we point out, a motion requiring a committee to report the bill promptly could still be brought up the next legislative day.

      No, this motion failed so long ago because of the worst type of partisanship. It failed because Republicans did not want to admit that the Democrats could better their bill. When I found out that there was no adequate protection for our returning Reservists and National Guards, well, I pledged to work with my colleague, Ms. Schakowsky, and make it right. Subsequently, I introduced legislation to amend the bankruptcy law. Unfortunately, the Republican leadership refused to bring my bill up to the floor for a vote and it took a change in the majority for this pro-Reservist, pro-National Guard bill to be brought to the House floor today. This measure isn't costing any new federal dollars. There's no massive appropriation. All it is is a consideration for these people who've risked their lives for us an are coming home.

      But my party couldn't provide consideration for our homecoming heroes, even though there wasn't any major cost involved. In the meantime, party control of the house changed, Ms. Schakowsky and I have been working diligently to get this legislation to the floor and get it passed into law. We are now considering this bill under suspension, which means it's pretty well recognized that this has widespread support. It should have been voted on by the majority or at least accepted a long time ago. I encourage my colleagues who voted no on the motion to recommit three years ago because they were misled to vote in favor of this legislation. This bill is not a wedge to reopen the bankruptcy law. Rather, it's a narrow-targeted change, modeled after existing exemptions for disabled veterans that will ensure America's heroes in neighborhoods throughout our country, who have often been called up for deployments long -- I would ask for an additional one minute.


      It would ensure that all of our heroes throughout our country, who have often by called up for deployments that are far longer than they were initially thought. And it's to ensure that they will not pay a very high personal cost for their absence and their willingness to step forward. As my colleague, Ms. Schakowsky put it, if these service members have put their lives in the line for us, and we owe it to them, we owe a great debt. And this is one way that we can show our deep appreciation for this service of these people as we should have done originally. And now it's time for us to repay that debt in a very bipartisan way. And I thank you very much to my chairman and ranking member and submit the rest for the record.

  •  Little help for a researching newbie? (0+ / 0-)

    Does anyone have any suggestions for searching through the FEC website tracking campaign contributions?

    Specifically, I'm trying to determine how much Bill Clinton raised in 1996 vs. Bob Dole in 1996 for the general election.  Does anyone recall if they had similar amounts of money to work with in the general?

  •  I'm going on vacation soon! (0+ / 0-)

    HATED to see this FISA thing again...


    No chicken should follow John McCain across that bloody road!

    by MT Spaces on Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 11:52:13 AM PDT

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