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And in full force.  I just tried every possible way to find a link to a video of the Bejing 2008 Olympics Opening Ceremony, but even on youtube, anything posted within the last three hours that has real content has been deleted.  Needless to say Google doesn't offer anything on it either.

MSNBC is the sole owner of US 2008 Distribution rights. Isn't this supposed to be an international event for the people of all countries from around the world?

We ARE alredy living in a completely censored society.  Why are we not allowed to see the opening ceremonies of the 2008 Olympics without subscribing to the Main Stream Media?

Simple diary, I know, but I was born and raised in post-war Germany, and my hackles are up high. Especially since us post-World War II kids were introduced to the crimes of our own country at the age of 6 in first grade, through having to watch concentration camp videos, and, as far as I'm concerned, permanently vaccinated against any possible repeat of such things.

What the hell is wrong with watching the Chinese opening ceremonies, asides from the fact that we might find out that their militaristic display of anything and everything is quite beautiful to look at, but very frightening at the same time to someone like me.

They appear to be a giant ant-hill community of humans, each designed to fill a mass-role.

Yeah, sure it's impressive, but I have my own doubts along the way.

Why not let us watch it and make up our own minds?

Anyone who has a link to a full video of the opening ceremonies, please do post it here.

It's late, and I won't be responding to messages for long, but I'll pick up tomorrow AM if you don't hear from me tonight.

Originally posted to Gabriele Droz on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 09:01 PM PDT.

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  •  That's not censorship (3+ / 0-)
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    Snud, trashablanca, willb48

    It's like saying you wanted to watch the new Batman movie, and got on the computer and couldn't watch it.

    •  The opening ceremonies of the Olympic Games (2+ / 0-)
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      truong son traveler, farbuska

      should always be available for all people in all countries.

      After all, their purpose is to unite people around the world by physical competition of each country's best, rather than war.

      he Olympics were never meant to be in the strict domain of Hollywood or specific networks.

      Do your homework.

      It does not take many words to tell the truth. - Chief Joseph - Nez Perce

      by Gabriele Droz on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 09:09:28 PM PDT

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      •  They are (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        willb48

        on TV.

        Buy a TV Guide.

        •  sorry, but I don't get tv (4+ / 0-)

          anymore.  Partly because I'm sick of it, and partly because I can't afford it.

          I object to the US blocking the sites that link to other countrie's free coverage of that event.

          And that's what has been done.  All the links to other countrie's free coverage of this event have been blocked.

          Suit yourself if that's what you want.

          It does not take many words to tell the truth. - Chief Joseph - Nez Perce

          by Gabriele Droz on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 09:16:32 PM PDT

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          •  How is that different from (0+ / 0-)

            the Chinese government blocking internet access to sites they don't want international reporters to have access to while they are in their country?

            You tell me.

            It does not take many words to tell the truth. - Chief Joseph - Nez Perce

            by Gabriele Droz on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 10:12:38 PM PDT

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      •  I doubt this is a fascist plot... (0+ / 0-)

        The video just isn't up yet at the website. Photos are up though.

        It'll probably be online tomorrow sometime.

        "The care of human life and happiness and not their destruction is the first and only legitimate object of good government" - Thomas Jefferson

        by markthshark on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 09:46:20 PM PDT

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        •  Photos are not the same (0+ / 0-)

          as having access to the full video of the opening ceremonies.  I hope you can at least agree with that.

          And I don't know why I should have to pay for an international event that many other countries open up for view.

          Why doe the US have to block us from accessing the sites that have the event available for view?

          It's not at all about US copyrights, MSNBC rights, or even lawsuits.

          It's plain censorship, just as in China.  Wake up, everyone.  Our fight for internet neutrality has already been lost.  And if you can't see it, I'm so sorry.

          It does not take many words to tell the truth. - Chief Joseph - Nez Perce

          by Gabriele Droz on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 10:17:45 PM PDT

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        •  No, but it shows the potential for censorship (1+ / 0-)
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          truong son traveler

          of a more political cast, in the infrastructure.

          Running against Herb "WIRETAP" Kohl in 2012. $1/year. Cash preferred.
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          by ben masel on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 10:23:55 PM PDT

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  •  well imho thats what you get for being a rabid (2+ / 0-)
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    trashablanca, wondering if

    Hillary supporter.

    However you can download hd versions of coverage on torrent sites.:)

    "Stop the drama. Vote Obama!"

    by Number5 on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 09:07:03 PM PDT

  •  I wouldn't call this censorship (3+ / 0-)
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    hhex65, BobzCat, willb48

    Youtube would get its ass sued off for letting those videos get stuck up there, just as they would if they showed Led Zeppelin's reunion concert live as it happened - without approval - or let you download music and/or software for free.

    There's a reason people and corporations own the rights to certain things.

    Now if it was the Gubment or my ISP preventing me from watching something that others could watch and otherwise is freely available, I'd call that censorship.

    This ain't no party. This ain't no disco. This ain't no foolin' around!

    by Snud on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 09:22:17 PM PDT

  •  Situation better than before (0+ / 0-)

    The basic situation is that companies buy rights to show the events only in their own countries. For similar reasons you cannot watch domestic BBC stations on line. I and other licence payers have paid for that service which includes paying the actors and others who appear. They have contracts that only pay them for the right to show their performance within the UK. For similar reasons, you get to see advertisements on BBC sites only if you access from outside the UK.

    As I understand it, you should have been able to watch the opening ceremony on a free-to-air service even if the company recovered the fees it paid by selling advertising. You could have recorded it. I got to see it free and free of advertising on the BBC HD service because I pay around $270 a year for a licence and purchased the necessary equipment. You pay by buying goods made by companies that buy advertising.

    Apart from this, the point you made has been covered by You Tube this year. They have and agreement to show clips to people in countries where no broadcaster has taken up the rights to show it.

    Does Magna Carta mean nothing to you? Did she die in vain?

    by Lib Dem FoP on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 09:33:41 PM PDT

    •  Companies Buy... (0+ / 0-)

      and users pay.  For information that should be free for us all.  That's all I need to hear to NOT convince me.

      But then again, I think capitalism is a cancer on humanity.  There, I said it.

      It does not take many words to tell the truth. - Chief Joseph - Nez Perce

      by Gabriele Droz on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 09:59:08 PM PDT

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      •  Personally (0+ / 0-)

        I would like the fees to considerably increase since I have been paying about $40 a year in local taxes since April 2007 to help finance London 2012 and will be having more taken from my income tax.  

        Does Magna Carta mean nothing to you? Did she die in vain?

        by Lib Dem FoP on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 10:28:25 PM PDT

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      •  Why so "hard to say?" (O/T comment) (1+ / 0-)
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        Gabriele Droz

        I've been saying it for years.  Everyone who believes it should say it.  

        Censorship; equal access to information; free access to  information (like this)... Corporations saw the internet coming and got laws passed making sure at least some of it was commercialized.  And, too, the internet would not exist were it not for commercial advertising... so there'a payoff.

        However.

        Capitalism IS a blight on humanity.  The more people say it, the more fear of doing so will recede.

        Q: Why do you say a small group of people can change the world?

        A: Because it's the only thing that ever has.

        - Margaret Mead (slightly paraphrased).

        Kick apart the structures.

        Kick apart the structures.

        by ceebee7 on Sun Aug 10, 2008 at 01:40:05 AM PDT

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  •  Thanks for all of your enlightening posts (1+ / 0-)
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    doinaheckuvanutjob

    I truly appreciate the input.  But my bottom line is that the "free" information flow no longer exists.

    It's now information based on paying ability or willingness.  And that will leave out a lot of people from he information highway.

    Excuse is as you may.  I myself am not a pay for information type of believer.  So be it.

    It does not take many words to tell the truth. - Chief Joseph - Nez Perce

    by Gabriele Droz on Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 09:52:00 PM PDT

    •  such information was never free (1+ / 0-)
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      Endangered Alaskan Dem

      You were free to travel to Bejing and see the ceremonies yourself.  As you decided not to, you are forced to rely on the efforts of other people. People who traveled there, costing something, set up communications equipments, more cost, stayed there paying for lodging and food.  Where does the money - energy when you get down to it - come from to support that effort? Perhaps you'd like it payed for by tax dollars?

      I find it more annoying that you are complaining about not being able to see some entertainment event in real time for free, when at the same time there are several wars going on, one with the small but real potential to escalate into global nuclear war.

  •  Opening Ceremonies (1+ / 0-)
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    Gabriele Droz

    Go to nbcolympics.com; scroll down the thumbnails
    and click on Opening Ceremonies.   If you're running Firefox 2 you'll be asked to download a free plug-in.

  •  Re my previous post re Opening Ceremonies (0+ / 0-)

    Wow - after downloading the plug-in I posted that comment without actually watching the video ... what
    you have said, Gabriele, is accurate.

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