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There can be no shortage of disappointment that John McCain is where he is in the CURRENT polls despite the state of our nation and the perception of our country in the world. The Republicans have run up a 407 billion deficit, engaged in a war without purpose which we continue to fight, unemployment is a 6.1%, millions of Americans are losing not just their jobs but their homes, gasoline is at record prices,Republicans led us to a new low in world perceptions - do I have to continue?

Many here just keep on making fun of any concern that is expressed with the Obama campaign with either rude pictures (Eternal Hope) or with censoring comments (indycam)- I had to delete a prior diary because of harassment and abuse - but the facts are that with less than two months the overall situation is difficult for our candidate.

Americans form their gut feelings on the candidates in a variety of ways with television being the greatest influence on these perceptions. Sadly many of them are superficial. George Bush who had hardly traveled abroad and despite he was/is a recovering alcoholic was judged by Americans to be the kind of guy they would rather have a beer with and the rest is history.

The media has, because of its limitations, continued to spawn versions of the McCain campaign talking points not only about him, his politics and his history but now also about Palin. To date, she is gaining strength despite having limited qualifications/experience for the job and she can continue to say bald lies with no repercussions. John McCain is still a maverick despite changing all his positions and having turned over his campaign to lobbyists and the religious right.

Is there enough money in Obama's coffers to overcome the media and can his communication skills along with Biden's undo what is building to be a coronation for McCain? I remain concerned that the switch of almost 20% by white women to McCain as reported by Newsweek is a very bad portent for our party. This group is crucial to national success for our party.

For the young writers and readers here: just go back and study what happened to all democratic candidates in the last two generations with the exception of Bill Clinton. It is a frightening scenario and just making fun of those who have lived through these efforts and losing campaigns will not create a victory.  There is something fundamentally wrong in the body politic or the approach the Democratic Party takes every four years if, given our recent history, that we can't do better this late in the game. There were TWO conventions - back to back- and the story line that came out is not favorable to us.

There needs to be careful analysis of what the best options are. I am fairly sure we have not dented the McCain campaign in the nation's eye despite millions of dollars of investment in advertising and some wonderful speeches by our candidates. Why?

In closing I would like to say that Barack Obama has chosen to stay arms length away from the politics here. I would remind the readers here that it says something about how he views this wing of the party and perhaps the politics he may pursue if we are successful in getting him in office. Don't be surprised!

Originally posted to GinaNY on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 09:38 AM PDT.

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  •  junk mail (3+ / 0-)
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    SallyCat, sheddhead, BA BarackUS
    •  This is a perfect example of why I wrote this. (2+ / 0-)
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      IndianaDemocrat, cityvitalsigns

      The hottest places in hell are reserved for those, who in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality. - Dante

      by GinaNY on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 09:44:23 AM PDT

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      •  "Careful Analysis" Isn't The KOS Way, Anymore (0+ / 0-)

        Those of us who analyze elections knew this wasn't going to be the cake-walk that was being portrayed here, for months.

        Demographics are Demographics, and they don't change because of micro-targeting, and "Hope!"

        In fact, if we lose this year, the blame for it will be directed RIGHT AT THIS COMMUNITY. And all they will need is a list of the diaries here since Sarah Palin was named as McCain's VP choice.

        But, out of ashes, can come OPPORTUNITY, if we are smart enough to grab it. We've ALREADY taken the power in this Party out of the hands of the Washington Corporate Democrats. Now let's return it to THE PEOPLE, which is what this DEMOCRATIC PARTY is supposed to be about!

        •  I was very concerned here with the attacks on the (1+ / 0-)
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          IndianaDemocrat

          Clinton family and legacy. I did not support how she managed her campaign and some of the tactics of her staff but the tone here was rancid and I wonder how much of the hurt feelings in our party didn't come from the invective here.

          The hottest places in hell are reserved for those, who in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality. - Dante

          by GinaNY on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 10:33:15 AM PDT

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  •  You ought to read more about polls. (1+ / 0-)
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    BA BarackUS

    Really.  

    "2009" The end of an error

    by sheddhead on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 09:41:04 AM PDT

  •  Dont be concerned about polls. This will be a (1+ / 0-)
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    lisa66

    landslide

    in both the popular vote and electoral college. this is a whooping.

    things are not good out there, and its the GOP's fault.

  •  Gina, register voters. It'll make you feel better (1+ / 0-)
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    snout

    There is no Left Wing. Left is the truth.

    by BA BarackUS on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 09:42:53 AM PDT

  •  This was always going to happen (2+ / 0-)
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    Mother of Zeus, IndianaDemocrat

    In an election without an incumbent, a tight race is a given.  Yes, they have the baggage of the last 8 years of failure, but we have the baggage of lack of familiarity.

    Anyone who thought we were going to have a huge lead at this point wasn't being honest with themselves for a long, long time.  

    Enough handwringing.  Our job now is to deliver on the ground.  There will be time enough for analysis later, but frankly the tone of defeatism that permeates this diary isn't helping.

    You want to win?  Call you local Obama office, grab a clipboard and start registering voters.  

    The campaign needs parts & labor, not new engineers. - stunzeed's first diary

    by snout on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 09:45:16 AM PDT

    •  I have volunteered for the national campaigns (0+ / 0-)

      since McGovern. I don't need your advice on what I can do to help.

      The hottest places in hell are reserved for those, who in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality. - Dante

      by GinaNY on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 09:46:49 AM PDT

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      •  You also don't seem to need advice... (0+ / 0-)

        ...on what you can do to be counter-productive.

        Surely you can see how this kind of diary can do more to deflate than inspire.

        The campaign needs parts & labor, not new engineers. - stunzeed's first diary

        by snout on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 09:50:39 AM PDT

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        •  It is a wake up call from someone who has (0+ / 0-)

          seen this over and over again.

          The hottest places in hell are reserved for those, who in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality. - Dante

          by GinaNY on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 09:53:02 AM PDT

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          •  Oh yeah? Who are you waking up? (1+ / 0-)
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            Mother of Zeus

            You think Axelrod is reading this diary and finding the missing piece of campaign strategy he's needed all long right now?

            Come now.

            The campaign needs parts & labor, not new engineers. - stunzeed's first diary

            by snout on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 09:54:47 AM PDT

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            •  I don't pretend to influence the BO campaign but (0+ / 0-)

              I do think I should be able to write to those that are wearing rose colored glasses at DKOS.

              The hottest places in hell are reserved for those, who in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality. - Dante

              by GinaNY on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 09:57:45 AM PDT

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              •  Why? (0+ / 0-)

                What are you saving them from?  Working too hard for their candidate?

                The campaign needs parts & labor, not new engineers. - stunzeed's first diary

                by snout on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 10:03:02 AM PDT

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                •  Working smarter, being better informed (0+ / 0-)

                  historically, and perhaps engaging the media more actively when they are solely partisan.

                  The hottest places in hell are reserved for those, who in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality. - Dante

                  by GinaNY on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 10:12:42 AM PDT

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                  •  Ah... (0+ / 0-)

                    So finishing off by "reminding" readers that Obama may not be as progessive as they'd like is going to get them to work smarter?

                    Please.  This is self-indulgence.

                    The campaign needs parts & labor, not new engineers. - stunzeed's first diary

                    by snout on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 10:18:11 AM PDT

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                    •  If you are volunteering inside the campaign (0+ / 0-)

                      you have every right to press for your views to be heard AND to know what you are fighting for. I think we should THINK not just act.

                      The hottest places in hell are reserved for those, who in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality. - Dante

                      by GinaNY on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 10:20:41 AM PDT

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                      •  Of course (0+ / 0-)

                        But we should press responsibly.  We should ask ourselves what he hope to accomplish whenever we voice dissent.

                        Seems to me that you skipped that step.

                        The campaign needs parts & labor, not new engineers. - stunzeed's first diary

                        by snout on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 10:37:12 AM PDT

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                        •  What is not responsible is pretending that (0+ / 0-)

                          everything is alright when it isn't. I am writing for adults.

                          The hottest places in hell are reserved for those, who in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality. - Dante

                          by GinaNY on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 10:48:04 AM PDT

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                          •  I'd have more respect for that... (0+ / 0-)

                            ...if you acknowledged the things that are right.

                            Did you talk about the fact that we are far more organized on the ground than McCain?  Did you talk about the fact that the electoral map continues to favor us?  Did you talk about the fact that Obama's had patches like this before and always seems to rebound?

                            Nope.  

                            If you feel some compulsion to tell the whole story - then tell the whole story.

                            But frankly we don't really need you to tell us.  As you said, we are adults here.  We are all active enough to be on Dkos.  Therefore, we all know the state of the race.  We don't need you to explain it to us.

                            If you have something to offer that will help motivate, please do.  But if all you have is defeatism...consider keeping it to yourself.

                            The campaign needs parts & labor, not new engineers. - stunzeed's first diary

                            by snout on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 11:02:42 AM PDT

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                          •  Please--- I am not trying to write THE history of (0+ / 0-)

                            the campaign to date nor trying to be 50/50 to balance everything. I have no compulsion to tell the whole story. Where did you get that?

                            I am just making some observations that I feel strongly about and I feel are time sensitive.

                            No one could make a critique or express an opinion if the base requirement was to say all the things that are RIGHT about the topic. Imagine doing that about our country or the congress or just about anything.

                            To your points:

                            The campaign may be more organized at the moment but the insertion of thousands of right wing religious types and thousands of churches could changes that quickly. Only a few states determine our fate and elections really are determined by turnout so that a change of a few points either way could be decisive.

                            The electoral map is a lagging indicator as state polls are conducted much less frequently than national polls. This can change in a heartbeat and then it may be too late to do anything if we think it is already won.

                            I am not here to motivate. I will leave that to others but I am concerned about premature celebrations and lack of thoughtful discussion about current reality and how it tracks with the past. I am not addressing myself not to the campaign (engineering) but to the DKOS community (opinion). Take what I write with a grain of salt if you feel it wrong.

                            The hottest places in hell are reserved for those, who in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality. - Dante

                            by GinaNY on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 12:01:20 PM PDT

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  •  Palin is losing strength, not gaining. (2+ / 0-)
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    irmaly, Mother of Zeus

    Her high water mark has come and gone.  It is all downhill from here.  Let's just hope the slope is as steep as possible.

    •  See this (0+ / 0-)

      In recent days, McCain and Palin have appeared before crowds ranging from 3,000 to 10,000 or more. Yesterday, about 6,000 turned out to see the Republican ticket in Lebanon, Ohio. Prior to the convention, McCain typically appeared at town-hall meetings -- his preferred venue for campaigning -- of about 300 attendees.

      Bloomberg

      The hottest places in hell are reserved for those, who in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality. - Dante

      by GinaNY on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 09:52:10 AM PDT

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  •  You don't need to call people out. (0+ / 0-)

    I think its against the rules

    My obsession is to get Barack Obama in the White House

    by lovelee philly on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 09:48:16 AM PDT

    •  I feel I do as I recieved a stream of (0+ / 0-)

      pictures showing feces and defecating  to a diary much like the one I write today b/c my views were unpopular here and there was only policing when I responded back.

      The hottest places in hell are reserved for those, who in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality. - Dante

      by GinaNY on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 09:51:12 AM PDT

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  •  Here's a little something ... (0+ / 0-)

    ... that might raise your spirits:  Gallup: Shows "Palin Bounce" largely contained to South.

  •  In the end your proof is (0+ / 0-)

    a gut feeling...

    Wait a week or two.

    The VP pick announcement is just the beginning of the real campaign.

  •  The campaign sets its own tone, and there (0+ / 0-)

    is nothing anyone can do about that.  If we want to win, we need to accept that fact and fight the good fight in keeping with the tone and overall strategy of the campaign.  Trying to resist it will only cause dissonance and backlash.

    This is going to be a challenging election.  There are a lot of factors that go into that.  Barack is trying to do something that no one has tried to do in a long time, and I think we will succeed.  But it won't be easy.

    As to the polls, they are what they are.  This is a country that elected George Bush, twice.  This is a country in which about half the voting population has, for the last several decades, appeared to be almost entirely lacking in critical thinking skills.  This is a lazy, flaccid, T.V.-addicted, instant gratification-seeking population of individuals who vacillate between aggression and depression.  To win an election on big ideas and honesty and policy solutions to people's real problems in this political environment is audacious.  

    But this is who we nominated, and now we need to back up this strategy with every bit of our might.  To the extent that Barack will play political games, they will be very subtle and he will be the one to do the baiting and trapping.  He is good at this.  He beat the Clinton machine.  I have confidence in his aikido style of politics because I have seen it work to corner Bill Clinton and I believe he will corner McCain as well.

    And there is really no point to hand-wringing.  It simply accomplishes nothing.  That is why people post pictures and such forth in your diaries.  If you are so angry about that, why keep posting diaries of this sort?  What do you hope to accomplish?

    •  I appeciate your thoughts. I am a realist much (1+ / 0-)
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      Mother of Zeus

      like yourself and have a life experience that trains me to be wary when I see triumphalism when there is no cause for it.

      From below:

      Dont be concerned about polls. This will be a landslide

      in both the popular vote and electoral college. this is a whooping.

      things are not good out there, and its the GOP's fault.

      The hottest places in hell are reserved for those, who in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality. - Dante

      by GinaNY on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 10:04:35 AM PDT

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  •  I sympathize with Gina (0+ / 0-)

    DailyKos is meant to be a place for your expressing your thoughts and seeking attention from the community is what I thought. That is what Gina has been doing - and it is not fair to ask a person to shut up because they are spoiling the mood or being deflating. We should be more of a community than a campaign machine with a killer instinct.
    It is a very fair question to ask, when you see polls heading a negative way, what is wrong? What is going on here? There have been many diaries in the blogosphere (incluidng Glenn Greenwald's in salon today) wondering about the kind of country America seems to have become.
    My country is close enough to Iran and I hope with all my heart that McCain loses and Barack wins. For the sake of America - but also for the sake of the world.

    •  I feel being a supporter includes being (0+ / 0-)

      thoughtful and critical at appropriate juncture. I hope things are well for you and your family.

      The hottest places in hell are reserved for those, who in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality. - Dante

      by GinaNY on Wed Sep 10, 2008 at 10:28:44 AM PDT

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