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I haven't written a diary in a while, but I thought I'd vent a few things just to make a position clear: FORGET SARAH PALIN.  Every time I log onto Kos anymore, there are floods of Palin diaries, comments and quips.  Backstories about her problems, failures, etc.  To which I basically say: who gives two *(& ?  Really.  All of it can be 100% true, every assertion made her way, and in the end, what does it mean... it means more time debating a Vice Presidential Candidate and less time drawing people to the real issues around McCain.  It LOOKS unfocused and strange to be this far into the debate and be debating the pros and cons of a VP.  

Yes, I'm sure there are great articles about all of her missteps, outright falsehoods, and more.  But in the end, none of it amounts to anything when the response is going to just be photos of her at some campaign event hugging some mother of another Down Syndrome child or something.  The problem is, there is simply too much air being sucked out of the room discussing a vice presidential nominee as though they were a wandering rock star gone bad instead of any real discussion of any real issues.

And I'm sorry, even if it makes her look bad, or if people think it makes it look bad, every single day spent not discussing issues but discussing a VP candidate is a day OFF MESSAGE.  It is a day where it's hard to highlight real differences between those two guys.. you know, the ones AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET??

I was thinking back to any time where a VP took center stage in the way that Palin has.  And I can think of twice:  Richard Nixon when nominated at 39 drew tons of fire.. but uh, it didn't hurt Ike (then again, it's doubtful much would).  And Dan Quayle, where Dukakis spent time going after Quayle for what an idiot he was.

It didn't help Dukakis either.  So, I tried to think of the times when Republicans ran into VP nominees who would give them issues.  And the key example: Ferraro.  Now, let's all be honest, light a candle at Grace Walsh' memorial, and remember that Dukakis was dead in the water before the conventions.  (seem like anyone from this election?)  And, in a move that could only be said of desperation, he went with Ferraro.

Did it throw Reagan off the message?  No.  The Reagan response:  "She's a gimmick".  And they basically never mentioned it again.

The fact is, the Palin story stays high on the press, which good or bad means McCain's ticket is racking up INCREDIBLE amounts of FREE press, time to respond, to make their case.

I'm going to stop responding, reading, or rec'ing anything about Palin and her foibles.  It just isn't worth wasting a news cycle at any point encouraging anyone in any 527 or the Obama end to even discuss Palin.  She's below the level of discussion.  

Hackett and those earlier infuriated me with the concept of an all-out attack on Palin, because I knew that it would generate an equal/opposite counter attack that would be devestating.

The most effective attack is simple: IGNORE HER.  Continuing the discussion, even when you're right, is just a monumental waste of time.  People who will vote for McCain because of her are not going to be persuaded by any argument, and the more time spent debating her doesn't tell the undecideds jack about the issue they care about.. not Sarah Palin.. the question is: "What are YOU going to do, and what are YOUR plans".  

So my answer from now on is:  "Palin seems like a mother trying to make it.  But, let's talk about how Obama's plans would help her and her children far more then McCain's..."

Originally posted to tmservo433 on Fri Sep 12, 2008 at 07:29 PM PDT.

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  •  while phonebanking (2+ / 0-)
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    A Chicagoan in Naples, Escapade

    I spoke to a working class woman in Nevada who has always voted Democratic

    but is voting for McCain because she likes Sarah Palin

    we have to talk about her

    but we should not neglect McCain

    and the choice of her reflects on him and his judgment

    so talking about her is talking about him

    esp given his age

    it's all good

    "No way, no how, no Palin war with Russia." --KariQ

    by andrewj54 on Fri Sep 12, 2008 at 07:33:53 PM PDT

  •  It's getting kind of hard to believe things are (1+ / 0-)
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    going to get better.
    It's getting kind of hard to believe things are going to get eaaaasier

    Evolution is more grounded in my experience than angels-BHO

    by nokona on Fri Sep 12, 2008 at 07:34:01 PM PDT

    •  I loved that movie also! -nt (0+ / 0-)
    •  The Dracula Musical (1+ / 0-)
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      I wish they would have a script for the Dracula musical.  I would completely snap that up.  One of the funniest films of the year.   It and "Hamlet 2" make up my short list of films that I found really funny from beginning to end.

      •  The two Sarahs have a lot in common. (0+ / 0-)

        When Sarah Palin throws a punchline from the pulpit, and everyone in the audience laughs and cheers, she inevitably looks around behind her, in both directions, with a giant beaming smile on her face. She is looking to see how many of her friends are appreciative of what a big celebrity she has become all of a sudden.

        When Sarah Marshall was being adulated by Aldous' pointing her out from the stage and lavishing praises upon her just before performing his next song, Sarah Marshall looked around behind her with that same beaming smile. She was looking to see if her ex boyfriend appreciated what a big celebrity she had become in Aldous' eyes.

        It was exactly the same look on both their faces.

      •  BTW, the DVD will be out soon, Sept 30. -nt (0+ / 0-)
  •  Who? (1+ / 0-)
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  •  Next Stop the stop Palin diaries diaries (2+ / 0-)
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    StrangeAnimals, C Dawgg

    just sayin'

  •  Should be a state by state decision. (0+ / 0-)

    In states where she hurts you address her.
    If Palin is catching fire in Virginia Ohio and Wisconsin you cannot ignore her.
    Gotta let the voters know what she represents.
    Ferraro did not have the skills and appeal of Palin and was never a threat.

  •  ignore the woman who's probably going to (0+ / 0-)

    serve at least 3 years of Insane McCain's term if the Palin/McCain ticket wins?

    Ignore the person who's going to be one heartbeat away from the Oval Office after she's talked about nuclear war with Russia as something we might have to do?

    Ignore a Religious Right extremist who can be expected to use the power of the Presidency to 'claim America for Christ' if we give her the opportunity?

    Ignore a live rattlesnake in your living room if you please. Don't expect us to ignore Sarah Palin.

    Looking for intelligent energy policy alternatives? Try here.

    by alizard on Fri Sep 12, 2008 at 07:39:50 PM PDT

    •  The issues are powerfull (1+ / 0-)
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      Anne Elk

      The economy sucks and McCain is going to make it much much worse...  If we can get Americans to understand that Palin is irrelevant.

    •  Discussing her serving for three years.. (0+ / 0-)

      Only means you're discussing her serving, and not discussing POLICY.  The debate has to come back to the policy difference.  People on the right will generally accept all of those things you say Palin is. People in the middle realize she will probably make no policy at all unless McCain dies.  What people want to know is simple: tell me how OBAMA'S POLICY makes things better.

      Don't worry about discussing how a VP makes things worse (irrelevent) FACTS about what POSITIVES Obama brings are more effective then wasting daily news cycles giving the McCain camp tons of time to keep putting Palin on the front page.

  •  Thank you! (0+ / 0-)

    I would also add that, instead of talking about Palin, talk about Obama's plan to eliminate foreign oil in 10 years. Obama's plan to cut the taxes of 95% of American families. Obama's plan for healthcare reform. Obama's plan to rebuild international institutions and security organizations. There's plenty to talk about. It's time to let Palin drift into the weeds where she belongs.

    McCain/Palin: The Real Bridge to Nowhere

    by Anne Elk on Fri Sep 12, 2008 at 07:46:03 PM PDT

  •  Sarah Who? (0+ / 0-)

    Really, you are right.  She's just a distraction from the real problem:  The horror of a John McCain presidency.  Even republicans would be in shock of it, I believe.  That's why she's been pushed so out in the open, to detract from McCain.  She's scary, but the Rethug nominee is much, much scarier, imho.

    Obama/Biden, '08 - Because the failure of America as a democracy is not an option!

    by WSComn on Fri Sep 12, 2008 at 08:31:17 PM PDT

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