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Any of you remember Nixon's sweaty pits in the first ever televised debate against JFK?  Neither do I. But it's the reason Obama will be up 5 points and hanging around 270 electoral votes by Oct 2.

Nixon was riding high on a strong 50 state strategy and was considered the favorite.  Kennedy was being blasted for his youth and inexperience. The new medium of television was to be the forum for the debate, the first time the voting public had a chance to see and hear the candidates fight for the nation's favor.
Nixon refused make-up, trying to keep it real, against the advice of his handlers. Kennedy waltzed in, tanned and robust, a jarring visual contrast to the recently hospitalized and sallow complected Nixon. Nixon, also, was one sweaty dude, and the hot lights soon produced dinner plate sized sweat stains in the pits of his jacket.
The public was riveted by Kennedy's charisma and newly discovered gravitas.  Swing voters, repelled by Nixon's creepy TV image and enamored of Kennedy's cathode ray stardom, delivered one the closest presidential victories of all time  to Kennedy.

Sound like a familiar scenario?
The visual meme generated by the first Obama-McSame debate will have a similar effect on the low information voters that aren't complete jabbering- in- tongues, snake-handling pentecostal types. The contrast between the two will never have been more stark than the evening  of 9-26-08, the first debate.  McCain's age will be amplified tenfold without a word spoken about it. His creepy smile will seem a dim, jaundiced grimace in comparison with the Shiny, Fresh Obama and his calm, presidential demeanor. McSame will fade late and go nappy time.
Remember Mencken's term, "Boobis Americanis"?
Well, Boobis Americanus is alive and quite well and may be the Orwellian guinea pig whose mayfly attention span may deliver the election to Obama  in the Twilight Age of Television.
A fitting end to Traditional Media's broad influence on the Information Age.

So, you heard it here, Holmes. Obama wins the election and nears 300 electoral votes.

But, by no means should you stop freaking out and pissing yourselves. It's fun to read!
 Tues, Oct 2- Obama by at least 5 national aggregate!

Peace and Vegetables all you Peeyopel!

P.s. Did you know that XTC is one of the world's greatest bands?

Originally posted to Phosfiend on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 08:44 PM PDT.

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  •  And don't forget: (3+ / 0-)
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    bibble, Phosfiend, Contemptibable

    McPow is short and hunched over. Kinda like a troll. And half his face sag and he drools sometimes. The teevee hates him. We should all hope for a green background.

  •  I've been waiting for the debates for this reason (4+ / 0-)
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    bibble, Ivey476, Obamacrat, Maverick80229

    and more. Once the country sees these two on the same stage and gets to see McWar's lying and temper, it's over.

    (-6.12, -7.28) We The People of the United States of America...

    by LeftBob1326 on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 08:49:57 PM PDT

  •  Agreed (1+ / 0-)
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    LordMike

    But for the life of me I can't figure out why Nixon passed on that softball at the beginning of the first video. Basically, JFK said Democrats are better than Republicans... and Nixon goes "I have no comment." WTF?

  •  don't forget biden/palin (2+ / 0-)
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    hungrycoyote, Casual Wednesday

    oh gosh, it'll be the lulz all night.

  •  debates maybe overrated (4+ / 0-)

    i hate to say it, kerry won every debate, it was not even close. i hope i'm wrong. one thing i know for sure is joe biden needs to go on record right now indicating that he is going to be himself when he goes against palin, no fear about ginder, this is democrat against republican, right wing that is. dont play with scared money joe, just be yourself, dont worry about being too rough or what people will think, be the best joe you can be.    

  •  Be careful (6+ / 0-)

    I strongly believe the Obama camp needs to work hard to bring down expectation for Obama inn those debate because McCain has a better debating tyle then he has.

    Obama , will of course , try to win on issues , and he should use the debate to debunk many lies McCain has been running on him.

    BUT , i strongly believe Obama's speaking style is not suited for the debate format..

    McCain is more comfortable  in those format and talks at ease...Obama , on the other hand , is a lecturer who needs a lot of time to answer + he has an annoying slight stutter that could put off some voters.

    All the uhms' , is also a slight problem to some...depend on how many times it comes out.

    Final conclusion...He should use the debate to clear the air on issues.

  •  no, no, no - he is gonna slay obama... (1+ / 0-)
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    Zoltan

    raise mccain's expectations, raise 'em high!!!!

  •  Ah, but here's the catch (2+ / 0-)
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    Zoltan, Casual Wednesday

    If we keep saying "Obama will rock in the debates and McCain will suck!" then ... Obama will lose the debates.

    It's entirely a question of expectations.

    Gore beat Bush in the debates in 2000. But Bush had kept expectations incredibly low, so when he showed up at the debates and actually remembered his own name the media credited him with doing "better than expected" at the debates. Next thing you know he's in the White House

    So remember: McCain is gonna do really, really well at the debates. And Obama? He kinda sucks at debating.

    Just tell every single person you know that from now until the debates actually happen.

    •  Exactly (2+ / 0-)
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      LordMike, Zoltan

      Many Kossack keep raising expectation for Obama , but reality is , debate has never been Obama' forte.

      The reason why he's not a good debater is becaue he still hasnt learn how to use soundbytes...

      Im wondering whether he' trying to learn but iss hard for him OR he just think his debating is fine.

      I would hope Obama doesnt think he' a good debate , thus refusing to learn soudbytes debating art.

      It would be great if he can cut down on all the 'uhmmz'....I dont know whether thats possible tho.

  •  The Kennedy/Nixon Election (2+ / 0-)
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    Zoltan, bythesea

    was one of the closest in history. Just sayin'.

    "Remember...remember...the 5th of November." John Lennon

    by MeMeMeMeMe on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 08:59:48 PM PDT

  •  Couple of critiques (1+ / 0-)
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    bloomer 101

    Even if it is that easy, we still need to keep fighting.

    Your analogy will probably turn out to be correct. Obama will look youthful and vibrant while McCain will look like he is auditioning for a wake (I'll bring the whiskey).

    On the other hand, there is still the VP debate. For better or worse, the GOP will still look aesthetically more pleasing on stage. This is not meant to take anything away from Biden. Substantively, Biden will mop the floor with Palin. Unfortunately, she has the Kennedy-esque youth going for her. I have even heard of conservative males voting McCain-Palin simply for her looks.

    Remember that the radio audience thought Nixon won the first debate.

    So the point is that we cannot rely on the first debate to deliver the election, but you are correct. I will probably help those poll numbers.

    The GOP should be shitting bricks over the debate.

  •  Hope you are right ! (0+ / 0-)

    "Four seconds is the longest wait " -Sleater-Kinney

    by delphil on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 09:00:35 PM PDT

  •  YouTube ROCKS!!!! (1+ / 0-)
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    bloomer 101

    My mom told me about watching this debate when she was a young adult, and how badly Nixon impressed everyone in it.

    But I have never had a chance to see it until now. Thanks for posting this.

    When Dick Cheney smiles, beware...

    by Dean Nut on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 09:02:07 PM PDT

  •  My project for the debates (0+ / 0-)

    I will diligently record what debate questions are substantive and which fall into the "lapel pin" category.

    My guess is about 28-2 in favor of stupid lapel pin questions. I hope to post it as a diary.

  •  Obama... (0+ / 0-)

    ...aint Kerry. Kerry is a weenie. I still like him and honor his bravery, but he is a weenie.

  •  Look I'm no concern troll (0+ / 0-)

    and I do feel the underlying strengths favoring Obama strongly imply he will prevail as the Palin-mania fades, but I feel the need to say something here.  Please stop using the "wait 'til the debates" and "our voters are being under-counted in the polls, for reasons x, y, and z" arguments for why things will be fine.  They may indeed be true, but are dispiriting to many of us, as that's exactly, and I mean exactly, what people were saying to "prove" Kerry was going to win in '04.
      I'm disgusted by chicken littles who freaked at the expected McCain bump from the convention/Palin, but it's starting to freak me out when at 538 they're saying it's thought McCain is still undergoing a "convention" bounce.  Really? Over a week later he's still bouncing?  I look for things to turn around, but if in a week or so McCain is still creeping up in the national and especially state polling, it's going to be hard not to start wringing my hands as well.  Just being honest about it.

    Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -6.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.67

    by bythesea on Sat Sep 13, 2008 at 10:05:47 PM PDT

    •  I'm glad you shared.. (0+ / 0-)

      And again, comparing Kerry, who may actually shit bark, to Obama, is ridiculous.
      And the point of the diary , intimated in it's title, is that the very same voter dynamics that have generated the McPalin bounce will shift the focus and momentum heavily in Obama's favor.

      So by all means, stop your phone banking, knocking, and registering. No need for any more donations, as well.
      That's obviously what I'm advocating here.

      •  And that's obviously what I'm saying (0+ / 0-)

        too.  My point only is that assurances that the debates or a "tidal wave" of unexpected voters will make it all good are counter productive to those of us who are older than 22 or so.  Also I'm in no way comparing Kerry to Obama.  I'm comparing the rhetoric of some supporters then and now instead. Yeah obviously the fact I'm starting to feel nervous means I advocate us all pissing our pants and rolling over.  I think in the end you will be proven right, but honestly I would have expected McCain's "bounce" in state polling to have plateaued or even begun fading by now, but so far it hasn't.  As I said I won't really be panicking unless the situation is the same in a week or two, and even then I think we have a strong chance of winning.

        Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -6.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.67

        by bythesea on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:55:19 AM PDT

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        •  I'm 40.. (0+ / 0-)

          but I'm sorry that my observation is counterproductive. I shall now flog myself in rhythm to the wringing of your hands and gnashing of your teeth.

          •  Goodbye (0+ / 0-)

            I'm expressing real anxiety while also saying that you are basically right, and you are such a cheerleader you see that as concern-trolling.  I only suggest "wait for the debates" is not by itself that strong of an comfort to all but the most partisan cheerleaders (which we definitely need, but are not the whole of the story).  If you can't handle the honest opinion of someone who shares your goals and views without being snide, it is most "counter-productive" of me to even talk to you.  Keep up the good work IRL, and let's do what we can to win this fall.

            Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -6.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.67

            by bythesea on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 01:28:03 AM PDT

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            •  Holy Poopypants... (0+ / 0-)

              Will you lighten up, Chuckles?
              You warrant a little busting on for the age assumption and ensuing condescension.
              Steady now. Don't break shieldlock when you hear the barbarians howling.

              •  I didn't assume your age at all (0+ / 0-)

                but I can see how you would think so from the way I put it (actually I assumed you were probably older, but that many newer voters would like this line of argument).  What I meant is that for many of us who were politically active at least for the last couple of elections, these arguments ring hollow, even if they may be true this time.  In any case I'm tired, and thought I was raising a couple of legit worries, but obviously am just distracting from the point of your diary.  That's why I'm dropping it, have a good night.

                Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -6.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.67

                by bythesea on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 01:42:41 AM PDT

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  •  something that I may have missed in the diary... (0+ / 0-)

    ...is that this will be the first time we have such a contrast in the context of visual memes since Kennedy-Nixon.
    Kerry wasn't visually more iconographic than Bush.
    Gore was even more of an optical offense.
    Carter-Reagan? Close, but no Shiny Newness!
    We don't even need for Obama to dominate this debate, just merely hold his own and let the visual meme sear it's way into the collective semi-conscious vacuum of Boobis Americanis.
    Even Palin will come off as small and colloquial visually compared with the statesmanship of Biden. It won't work the same way it will for Obama or did for Kennedy. her missing ingredient? Gravitas

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