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Time for some tough love, folks. A pep talk. A crash course in remembering who we are and what we do best.  

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The Republicans have  hit fast and hard since their convention.  They've played dirty.  They've landed punches. They  have us scrambling. But people!  This does not mean we should forget everything that we have learned and discussed on this site for the past 4 years!  We can do better!

Look around you.  This site has become obsessed with presenting 'facts' that 'prove' Sarah Palin is not good enough to be Vice President. All that is doing is helping McCain.  But worse:  it goes against everything we've learned, everything we've dedicated ourselves to. We can do better!

You think McCain supporters will respond to facts?  You think that's air they're breathing?

People, diarists, friends, Kossacks: THE TIME HAS COME TO GET BACK IN THE GAME--OUR GAME!

Here are five steps to get us there...

I'm talking to you, friend.  That's right.  You--the diarist who thinks he/she has found the fact or scandal that definitively proves why Sarah Palin will be a bad Vice President, and who thinks he/she has found the most clever and convincing way to present that utterly devastating fact.  Stop, already.  We have seen it.  No more. There are enough 'Sarah Palin is Corrupt, Stupid, Dangerous, and Not Ready' diaries to fill a thousand blogs.   We get it!

But even 10,000 more diaries like that will only help McCain--only  help him.

Why?  Because Palin is not on the McCain ticket because she is smart, qualified, and ready.  She is on the ticket to shore up McCain's 'culture war' credentials--to put her on the 'right side' of the cultural wedge issues the Republicans use to divide the electorate and win Presidential elections.

So...the more we obsess over Palin, the more connected to John McCain the lunatic wing of the Republican Party feels.  

We can only win this election if the majority of voters in this country (A) know what Obama's vision for America is and (B) agree with it.  

Newsflash: People do not hear Obama's vision for the country when we say that John McCain is a 'liar' or that Sarah Palin is 'stupid.'  

Keep this in mind:  The Republicans never just say that Barack Obama is a 'liar' or that he is 'unprepared.'  They say that he is a liar about something very specific.  They say that he is unprepared to do something specific.  And those specific things are never,  ever, ever left out of the attack--never ever.

So if you are going to say that McCain lies--tell people what he is lying about and show them how that fits into Obama's vision for America:


Remember, there is a reason we critique the opposition and that is:  to emphasize Obama's vision.  So emphasize it.  

If you remember one thing from the last four years of blogging about election debate rhetoric and what it takes to win, remember this:  WHAT WE REPEAT IS WHAT THE PUBLIC REMEMBERS.

If we repeat 'Palin, Palin, Palin,' over and over again between now and November--whether we are saying good things or bad things, 'Palin' is what will be in the minds of the public.

Remember the primaries?  Remember how often the words  'Hope' and 'Yes we can!' were repeated on this site? Remember how much of an impact that had on the election.  Were they perfect slogan?   Probably not.  But my goodness, they were repeated and that repetition had an impact.  A big impact.

Stop saying 'Palin' and start saying:


This is not some experiment in creative self actualization.  This is not some exercise.  This is the real thing.

At the core of this whole obsessive meltdown is a very basic human reaction:  we are afraid that the American public will once again be confused by the Republican smear machine and elect yet another dangerous President who will drive this country deeper and deeper into a hole.  We.  Are.  AFRAID.

That is totally understandable.  We are human.  We see what is happening around us.  

But we are more than just average voters around here.  We are leaders of a national conversation that sets a tone,  drives language into the media, and pushes our elected officials.

When candidates we supported were afraid to run for office--we gave them confidence.

When voters felt alone in the destructive Bush era--we made them feel part of a community.

When each of us worried that there was no turning back after 2004--we rallied together and helped take back the Senate and the Congress.

We must find our confidence again.  Forget the polls. Forget the nasty ads.  Forget the lipstick and swine.    Reach deep inside yourself and find the inspiration again.


Believe in yourself again.

Above all else, use the optimism we generate here to revive and restore hope in the world around you.

One of the most disheartening things I have seen in the past week is the level of fear and concern amongst people who are not connected via the netroots.

The media obsession over Palin has cast a dark cloud over a country filled with hope following the DNC in Denver.  The anxiety is so thick I can feel it in my throat.  More people have told me they are going to leave this country than at any time I can remember in my life.


Do more than write diaries that reject the McCain language, that emphasize Obama's vision, that repeat our campaign themes, and that reject fear for confidence--take all those strengths and inject them into the off-line world to help revive a fearful nation.

We are more than diarists.  We are conversation leaders and that conversation has become tangled in a well-planned mess of distractions unleashed on the American public from a convention center in St. Paul, MN.

So now it is our turn to reclaim it--our turn to rebuild the kind of conversation that will win this election for those who believe in a better future.

Let's get busy.

Let's work together.

Let's not waste one more minute being afraid.

Let's win this damn election.

Originally posted to Jeffrey Feldman on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:00 AM PDT.

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  •  we all need a pep talk from time to time (603+ / 0-)
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    When I come to this blog, I want to see it filled with confidence, fire, and optimism!

    I want this place to be the engine room of a national conversation that never looks back, never gives up hope.

    Let's go folks!  Let's get this thing rolling again!

    Tired of violent language from right-wing pundits? Buy my book: Outright Barbarous

    by Jeffrey Feldman on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:01:32 AM PDT

  •  Thank you! I am posting on all diaries that focus (37+ / 0-)

    on McCain and NOT his sidekick.  I am sick of the VP diaries--don't even want to mention her name--Let's focus and win!

    "The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled." -Plutarch

    by DEQ54 on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:03:10 AM PDT

    •  heck yes! (21+ / 0-)

      That's exactly the kind of comment we need to hear.

      Tired of violent language from right-wing pundits? Buy my book: Outright Barbarous

      by Jeffrey Feldman on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:04:28 AM PDT

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    •  Why focus on McCain? Why not Obama? (1+ / 0-)
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      The fact is, Palin is not the sidekick, right now she's the head of the ticket. McCain's the sidekick. People think they know McCain, but they don't know Palin. (That includes the media.) That's why we need to go after the Palin/McCain ticket.

      But if you're opposed to the negativity of Palin diaries, you should not be talking about McCain either.

      If Sarah Palin can deal with Russia, then why didn't she stop the invasion of Georgia?

      by Shiborg on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:39:10 AM PDT

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      •  We do have a job to do on McCain (1+ / 0-)
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        We have an attack dog role.  Why is is different from attacking Palin?  Because people ultimately vote for McCain and McCain's agenda.

        Read my lipstick: No how, no way, no McCain!

        by cherry poptart on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:44:38 AM PDT

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        •  In a normal year, yes, but not this year. (0+ / 0-)

          McCain doesn't have an agenda. Many people who are planning to vote for McCain this year are doing so because of Palin. She draws the crowds, not him. I'll bet many of them are hoping that McCain will kick the bucket sooner rather than later so they can have President Palin.

          Under those circumstances, attacking McCain won't make a damn bit of difference.

          If Sarah Palin can deal with Russia, then why didn't she stop the invasion of Georgia?

          by Shiborg on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:57:37 AM PDT

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          •  Nah. Just watch--her novelty is already half-dead (3+ / 0-)

            Read my lipstick: No how, no way, no McCain!

            by cherry poptart on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:18:33 AM PDT

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            •  That's why she's weak (2+ / 0-)
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              4Freedom, cherry poptart

              She's just a facade, a Potemkin village with no real substance (or, more accurately, really rotten substance). But she'll still be the top of the ticket, because McCain himself is an empty shell with no substance either. The Republicans know that, that's why they are working furiously to make build Palin up and make her facade as attractive as possible. We can't let them do that. They are losing that battle and they will lose that battle.

              One way or another, this campaign will be about Palin. It already is. Ordinarily I don't like fighting on the enemy's chosen battlefield. (One of my favorite sayings is Napoleon's maxim, "Never do what the enemy wants, for the very reason that the enemy wants it.") But in this case the battlefield was chosen on a rash impulse and it doesn't look half bad to me. The Republicans want to fight it out over Palin? I say: "Bring it on!"

              If Sarah Palin can deal with Russia, then why didn't she stop the invasion of Georgia?

              by Shiborg on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:38:12 AM PDT

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            •  Hour by hour I see the coverage changing (1+ / 0-)
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              cherry poptart

              despite the occasional backslides like Charlie Gibson's flying across the country to her home turf. But even those are isolated incidents.

              As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.

              by ticket punch on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:32:50 AM PDT

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      •  Frank Rich agrees (5+ / 0-)

        He says Palin is the top of the ticket, and will be the de-facto president if they win:

        . . . if we’ve learned anything from the G.O.P. convention and its aftermath, it’s that the 2008 edition of John McCain is too weak to serve as America’s chief executive. This unmentionable truth, more than race, is now the real elephant in the room of this election.

        No longer able to remember his principles any better than he can distinguish between Sunnis and Shia, McCain stands revealed as a guy who can be easily rolled by anyone who sells him a plan for “victory,” whether in Iraq or in Michigan. A McCain victory on Election Day will usher in a Palin presidency, with McCain serving as a transitional front man, an even weaker Bush to her Cheney.

        The ambitious Palin and the ruthless forces she represents know it, too. You can almost see them smacking their lips in anticipation, whether they’re wearing lipstick or not.

        The Palin-Whatshisname Ticket

        Yes, I posted this on another thread, but few seem to have seen it (unless I missed them, in which case, I apologize).

        May your entire existence be one sensuous, frolic-filled experience lived in defiance of care.

        by Fonsia on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:56:29 AM PDT

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  •  Tipped and Rec'd (17+ / 0-)

    I wrote in a comment the other day that I couldn't believe how many "Palin" diaries are here, and questioned their intended purpose.

    What is the point, to get Palin kicked off the ticket?  They would pick somebody else we didn't like.

    We need to get OUR people voted in, and their people OUT of the White House.  I don't care WHICH Republican it is, they are all bad, Bush, McCain, Palin, Guilliani, they are all the same, and they all suck.

    "Can I just ask a question? What is Fox News, it's just a Parade of Propaganda, isn't it? It's just a Festival of Ignorance." --Lee Camp, FOX News guest

    by twalling on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:06:16 AM PDT

    •  No, the point is to make Palin radioactive (7+ / 0-)

      If we bring her down, we bring down McCain. She's the one people are looking at, NOT him. The Republicans have made the campaign about her. They've practically made her the top of the ticket. Well, let's indulge them, she is so vulnerable that we can put them on defense for the rest of the campaign.

      Traditional Democratic campaign strategy is to stick to our issues whatever the Republicans do. That's why we lose. Eventually we find ourselves having playing defense against their attacks, and no one is paying attention to our issues. I'm not saying to abandon the economy and the war and all the other issues we care about. That's what Obama should be focusing on. We need to talk about it too.

      But I believe that we Democrats can walk & chew gum at the same time: We can talk about the economy and about Palin. She was a gift to us and an incredible opportunity, as well as a danger. The danger is if we ignore her, we'll give the Republicans a chance to build her up as Superwoman. (Remember the people who said to ignore the swift boat attacks?) We are in a battle for the public narrative about Palin, and we can't just leave it to the MSM to figure it out for themselves. This window won't stay open forever, we have to work now.

      Palin isn't Dan Quayle: The GOP today is pinning their hopes on her. She's the centerpiece to their campaign. But she's weak, let's take her out now while we still can.

      If Sarah Palin can deal with Russia, then why didn't she stop the invasion of Georgia?

      by Shiborg on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:50:32 AM PDT

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      •  They have not pinned their hopes on Palin. (6+ / 0-)

        They've pinned their hopes on changing the conversation, taking the focus of the election off the very real differences on the issues and changing it into a war of personalities.

        They've pinned their hopes on playing the victim, and keeping the old "White Woman vs. Black Man" narrative that worked so well in the media during our primaries alive.

        When you click out the 17,031st diary on how "radioactive" Palin is, you are helping them out, giving them fodder to say "The Dems hate Palin because she's a successful woman."

        We should not be focusing on her, instead, we should shrug her off and focus on what makes US the better choice than THEM.

        "Can I just ask a question? What is Fox News, it's just a Parade of Propaganda, isn't it? It's just a Festival of Ignorance." --Lee Camp, FOX News guest

        by twalling on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:04:04 AM PDT

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        •  The more the truth comes out about her, (1+ / 0-)
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          the more hollow the faux outrage in her defense sounds. The media is onto her, thanks in part to us. It is starting to dawn on the Republicans that she may be more of a liability than an asset. Crap is coming out every day about her, thanks to all the people she's screwed as she's clawed her way to the top. That's why she went into hiding: She can't take the pressure, answer the questions or handle the criticism. Now she has the extra distraction of the Troopergate subpoenas.

          To let up the pressure now is what the Republicans want, that's why they've launched a furious barrage of lies against Obama. They made the campaign about her, now they're trying to make it about Obama, while they somehow repair her image and build up the narrative they're trying to foist on the country. We are winning the Palin battle, why stop now?

          If Sarah Palin can deal with Russia, then why didn't she stop the invasion of Georgia?

          by Shiborg on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:53:26 AM PDT

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        •  Keep the focus OFF OF The ISSUES is McCain's (1+ / 0-)
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          campaigning way.

          As far as McCain is concerned...

          Economy tanking - not an issue.
          Home Foreclosures - not an issue.
          Unemployment - not an issue.
          Unfair Taxes for the poor - not an issue.
          High Gas Prices - not an issue.
          Medical Insurance - not an issue.


          As far as McCain / Palin are concerned, it what shade of lipstick they use  in their next ad.

          Remind voters that this is McCain's Primary Issue!!!

          Oh wait. We have nothing but LIBERAL REPORTERS working in a LIBERAL MEDIA here in America!! How could I have forgotten that?

          by hopalong on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 03:05:12 PM PDT

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      •  These are good points. (1+ / 0-)
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        I agree whole-heartedly with the diarist, but your comment holds to some important perspectives. I guess it's a question of emphasis and balance. I think if we go with the positive suggestions put forth in this diary the rest will fall into place and Palin will find her correct emphasis -- someone to be taken seriously, not ignored, but definitely not the center of attention.

        "Your point. Their village." --Zhivago to Strelnikov

        by ailanthus on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:42:40 AM PDT

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        •  I don't want all-Palin-all-the-time either (1+ / 0-)
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          Obama has a wonderful message, and that message needs to be protected and advanced at all costs, not just because its his brand but because when the election is over we will need to rebuild this country, politically as well as economically, judicially, diplomatically, militarily, etc. etc. etc. Kind of a Marshall Plan for America, DeBushification, whatever you want to call it.

          Obama can do that if he stays pure. He has to stay out of the Palin stuff. (Frankly, I hope he's giving speeches four times a day to as many people as they can pack in. He's most effective that way, he really touches people when they listen to him directly, without the MSM filter.)

          And we, too, need to boost the message every chance we get. But one thing I love about this site is that with the front page and the rec list as well as the recent diaries list, there are many opportunities to get many messages out. After all, we don't expect a newspaper to talk about one issue every day, do we? Of course we don't need ten Palin diaries on the rec list at one time, but we need at least one, maybe two or three. We can fight a four-front war (Obama, McCain, Palin, and policy) and win on all of them.

          If Sarah Palin can deal with Russia, then why didn't she stop the invasion of Georgia?

          by Shiborg on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:06:01 AM PDT

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      •  People already have an opinion of Palin (1+ / 0-)
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        Did anyone read the comments on the NYT online version of the article "Palin Hired Friends"?  There are many vitriolic replies defending Palin.  You cannot change these people's minds.  They have already drunk the kool aid.

        "Reality has a well-known liberal bias." Stephen Colbert

        by Time Waits for no Woman on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:01:39 AM PDT

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        •  Of course you can't change those people's minds (1+ / 0-)
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          Their wingnuts. Nothing you say will change their minds, and nothing you say will get them to vote for Obama. So you don't try.

          But you can't let their vitriol go unanswered. It's part of a strategy they've employed for years of intimidating the media. I think we've been swimming against the media stream in part because the MSM knows there are no consequences to doing a hatchet job on a Democrat, whereas telling the truth about a Republican brings ten thousand screaming demons down on them.

          Finally the media is showing some cojones, at least tentatively, and the wingnuts, led by the Palin/McCain campaign is on the attack. We can't let that go unanswered, and we have to hold the MSM's feet to the fire. Otherwise they will follow the line of least resistance, which is to back down. (Look, MSNBC has already folded with KO & Tweety.)

          Frankly, I love seeing that vitriol as well as the faux outrage by the McCain campaign. It shows we've touched a nerve and things are going our way. If they really were winning they would be mocking us with that "nyah nyah" tone of theirs. When they're angry, you know they're worried.

          If Sarah Palin can deal with Russia, then why didn't she stop the invasion of Georgia?

          by Shiborg on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:16:29 AM PDT

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          •  ten thousand screaming demons (1+ / 0-)
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            is right.  It is like they are just standing in the wings, until their master tells them that the big bad NYT has said bad things about their Sarah, and lets them off the leash.

            But how can we hold the media accountable?  It seems that gal's comment on The View accomplished more than thousands of letters to the editor.

            •  Yes, it's so much easier when they do their jobs. (1+ / 0-)
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              Unfortunately, I think part of the answer is that we have to call them on it when they do a cheap shot against the Democrats, as we've started doing. In other words, bashing Democrats can no longer be the line of least resistance. I absolutely hate that it has to be that way, but there is much about the world today I hate, yet I still have to live in it.

              But I think the other thing is that we have to be smarter about the role MSM plays and focus much of our attention on it. They are DKos's audience just as much as the undecideds--maybe more. You can talk about issues until you're blue in the face, but if the MSM doesn't report it, what good will it do? Look what happened to Edwards, he became invisible during the primary, though he had some great things to say about domestic issues. He only got press when his affair was revealed afterward! And Obama can talk all day about the economy and the media won't report it unless he bashes McCain in the process.

              Meanwhile, the MSM did much of the heavy lifting for Bush when they bought into the "Gore is a serial exaggerator" crap and the "Kerry is a flip-flopper" garbage. If we can get to the stage where journalists roll their eyes every time McCain opens his mouth, or that Leno makes some Palin crack part of his regular shtick--they way they did to Gore ("Gore's so wooden that he....")--then we've succeeded.

              Frankly, I'm surprised at the media's boldness the past couple of weeks, and they are being ferociously attacked for even that little bit of actual reporting. (Look at the grief Gibson is getting from the right for just doing his job--"How dare he ask questions!") We have to hold the reporters to it and do whatever we can to reinforce the negative perceptions that they might create by actually reporting. (C'mon: charging victims for the rape kits??? We should be all over that, that is simply indefensible.)

              If Sarah Palin can deal with Russia, then why didn't she stop the invasion of Georgia?

              by Shiborg on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:59:33 AM PDT

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          •  That's Where The Independents Come In (0+ / 0-)

            Oh wait. We have nothing but LIBERAL REPORTERS working in a LIBERAL MEDIA here in America!! How could I have forgotten that?

            by hopalong on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 03:06:32 PM PDT

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      •  McCain = Palin = Bush = LIARS (1+ / 0-)
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        That's what every Democrat from Biden to Harold Ford ought to be saying publicly over and over and over again.  It doesn't make sense to ignore Palin as if she doesn't exist, but she shouldn't be our focus either.  We can use her as a tool to show McCain for a fraud and a liar.  Go after his honor, integrity, maverick status, and the "Straight Talk Express."  

        Every time a Democrat is questioned about Palin's "injection of excitement" into the campaign they should say something like, "I think Americans who care about this country will feel that her lack of honesty calls McCain's honor into question.  There is no difference between the dishonesty shown by the McCain-Palin ticket and the Bush-Cheney ticket who lied to us all eight years ago."  Now that her lying has been somewhat exposed we should act as if it's an unquestionable fact and use it to go after McCain.

  •  Thank you for reminding us of our mission.... (15+ / 0-)

    It is frustrating to watch the cable news shows and see them totally avoid the REAL issues and keep focusing on the personality/culture clash instead of uniting Americans to resolve the most serious problems facing our country and our planet. We must keep stressing what Obama brings to this contest - his intellect, his sound judgment, his solid plans on health care, education, environment, energy, his reputation and history of bringing people together for their common good, his refusal to be bought by lobbyists and special interest groups, the respect he has already gained from foreign leaders that the US (under his presidency), might return to it's role of being the last best hope for democracy and human rights.

    "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK

    by moose67 on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:10:54 AM PDT

  •  Weve got a good headline grabber for CHANGE (7+ / 0-)

    What do you fear most....    or

    More of the Same????

    "hold on to dreams for when dreams die life is a broken winged bird that cannot fly" e. dickinson

    by kansasgal on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:11:34 AM PDT

  •  The 'no drama' lecture (16+ / 0-)

    that has been long overdue. Thanks.

    Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -- Philip K. Dick

    by RandomGuyFromGermany on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:12:57 AM PDT

  •  THANK YOU. A voice of sanity (17+ / 0-)

    In my comments, I have been emphasizing live blogging from events with Obama, Biden, Clintons, Richardson, Kerry, etc, with photos and optimism.

    Also, I have been asking for transcripts or summaries of embedded videos I will never see (slow speed internet), and a tone of civility in discourse that reflects the values of our campaign.

    I remember KOS in the primary, and it was fun to be here.  A drink of fresh water.  An optimism break, and a sense of everyone working together.  We can reclaim that.

    The best way to stand up to bullies is for the entire community to band together and stand up for progressive values - fairness, compassion, respect, protecting the commons, etc - that are American values.

    Drown their bullying our with our optimism and sanity, our desire to unite not divide...

  •  Palin diaries are too easy (29+ / 0-)

    Everyone wants to believe that there's some magic bullet that will disqualify Palin from serious consideration, some scandal that will lift the veil from voters' eyes. Because that would make things so much easier on us and we wouldn't have to fight for it. Well, guess what?

    It ain't gonna happen. We're gonna have to fight. I'm off to phone bank. Catch ya later!

  •  Thanks for the wisdom. (7+ / 0-)

    And for the sanity.

    There are, in every age, new errors to be rectified and new prejudices to be opposed. -Samuel Johnson (1709-1784)

    by slksfca on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:14:44 AM PDT

  •  Thank you Jeffrey (20+ / 0-)

    Neighbor to Neighbor

    An easy way to get involved and to start making a difference, from where you're sitting.

    Walk lists in your immediate surroundings. Call lists. If you can't bear to do any of that, show up at your local Obama office and offer yourself up for data entry, anything.

    Write letters to the editor of your local rag.

    Take one of these actions before you grant yourself permission to whine here about the media, McCain, Palin or any perceived deficiencies of the Obama campaign.

    Push back with action, optimism and hope - if only for your own sanity.

    Let the great world spin for ever down the ringing grooves of change. - Tennyson

    by bumblebums on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:14:57 AM PDT

  •  Hopefully this can get rec'd up before.... (11+ / 0-)

    ...the unending wave of "Palin" diaries makes it scroll off into oblivion.  This is too good not to make the rec list.

    "Can I just ask a question? What is Fox News, it's just a Parade of Propaganda, isn't it? It's just a Festival of Ignorance." --Lee Camp, FOX News guest

    by twalling on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:16:13 AM PDT

  •  Beautiful. (16+ / 0-)

    Thank you, Jeff. This is exactly what I need.

    There's a quantum physics theory about intention--if you keep talking about what you DON'T want, you'll usually get it.

    If you talk about what you DO want, you'll usually get it.

    Let's return our focus to what we REALLY want instead of what we fear.

    Its all bout the future, not the past. Time to move!

    by Fe Bongolan on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:17:34 AM PDT

  •  Thanks for the pep talk (20+ / 0-)

    we sure need it.

    I check out some of the winger sites from time to time and they are absolutely gloating over the meltdown over here.  They are lovin' it. They're happy to see the Democrats as a whole seeming to be in total disarray and despair, but they take particular joy in reading all the gloom and doom diaries at DKos.

    I sure as heck want to see them wipe those silly grins off their faces in November.

    What made Obama attractive to so many people was his message of hope and inclusiveness....of truly working together as a nation - I hope we can get enough independents to hear that messge and have it resonate with them.

    And we need to GOTV BIG TIME.

    But in the meantime - yes, forget Palin...although I do think it has been important to show McCain's judgment is questionable and dangerous.  So some focus on just how unqualified Palin is was not unjustified.  I think we are all amazed at just HOW inadequate she is, and appalled that people will STILL vote for McCain based on her being "just like me". But now its time to focus on what Obama/Biden will do for the country.  

  •  What meltdown? (15+ / 0-)

    Obama raised over 60 million in August.  I just donated more based on that figure alone.  I am going to be canvassing in Indiana next week.  We havea massive GOTV structure.  We are winning all the Kerry states plus a couple extras are leaning our way.  We always knew it wa going to be touch.  We always knew that the media were against us.  But you know what?

    YES.  WE.   CAN.

    Now go phonebank, everyone.

  •  "WE ARE AFRAID" (11+ / 0-)

    Your points 4 and 5 are very salient.

    "We are afraid" plain and simple, and in our fear we have to be careful that we don't panic and start running around like headless chickens.

    Lets focus, work hard and encourage each other.

    •  I wish I could REC REC REC REC (5+ / 0-)

      this. I made a commitment to post only diaries that put forward Obama's vision, provide information for positive action and lift people's spirits/hopes.

      I also think it would be great if we try to agree (not easy :) to post only about positive action on action diaries. People do need to vent or analyze - but there are lots of places to do that here. Let's not step on positive, action oriented diaries with doom & gloom or negative analysis of the oBama campaign.

      "The eyes of the future are looking back at us and they are praying for us to see beyond our own time." - Terry Tempest Williams

      by your neighbor on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:32:24 AM PDT

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    •  Yes --- Fear is at the root of much of this (1+ / 0-)
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      And Republicans understand this better than just about everybody else (except Obama who regularly works to counteract it).  Even Michelle said: "fear is a useless emotion."  (I would add:  "unless we channel that fear into power and action.") We have reacted viscerally to what they have been peddling -- AGAIN.  They HATE when we are optimistic, rallied, focused.  The fact that they hate it is enough to make me even more so.

      "I've been called worse on the basketball court." Barack Obama 9/4/08

      by PoliticalJunkessa on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:32:18 AM PDT

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  •  The ususal good humor seems missing at this (10+ / 0-)

    site, too. I think we should take our cue from Obama and use his daily theme as our own "theme of the day" by making sure we talk about issues to our friends, to our neigbors, to our co-workers. to strangers in the grocery store and especially to those we are calling or meeting by doing canvassing.

    We should dismiss Palin as the joke she is and know the American voters want honesty and want a real leader who has the vision to solve our problems.

  •  This needs emphasis (13+ / 0-)

    "Remember, there is a reason we critique the opposition and that is:  to emphasize Obama's vision.  So emphasize it. "

  •  It would help if Obama (5+ / 0-)

    would give us the language.

    I can't feel very fired up when I repeat

    "Iraq is a distraction."

    Messages like that are too passive IMHO. The Obama campaign needs to give us something with meat that sticks to the bones--otherwise there is no one, clear message that can come through.

    God, I miss Paul Wellstone.

    by Naniboujou on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:24:31 AM PDT

  •  Thank you for this (10+ / 0-)

    Looking at the rec list in the last week or so, and listening to the vapid high-school prom commentrary that passes for campaign coverage, it is easy to forget how high are the  stakes for our country.

    "When the going gets tough, the tough get 'too big to fail'."

    by New Deal democrat on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:28:31 AM PDT

  •  I also think it is time for Keith or Rachel to (12+ / 0-)

    select an issue on a nightly basis and present Obama's solution vs McCain's solution - like their tax plans. I have made copies of the Washington Post's graph that shows the tax cuts under each plan and are giving them to people as I canvas.

  •  It's the economy stupid! (8+ / 0-)

    Here's a frame to exploit where the gifts just keep on giving. I don't have time to diary this - but if I did, I would find other examples that show how out of touch not only McCain but the people who advise him are. My comment from another diary:

    A gift from a SECOND McCain economic adviser saying "Quit doling out that bad economy line"  Synopsis: it's all in your mind folks, the economy is great.

    McCain has said that he doesn't know anything about economics, so his advisers will guide him.  Problem is, they DO NOT HAVE A CLUE.

    But don't worry, because although McCain says that he is economically challenged, he has read Alan Greenspan's book!

    Here is what the author of that book had to say today: "This is the worst economy I have ever seen."

    Can you possibly get more out of touch about the foremost issue that Americans care about, the economy, then McCain, and the advisers that will shape his economic policy?  It seems to me that those hard working "Reagan Democrats" might have second thoughts if they find out that fatcats think everything is just fine, and there will be no help coming their way in the form of an improved economy, just more of the same, or perhaps total collapse.

    I would make a huge stink about this.  Get McCain to admit Gramm is still one of his advisers. Make him fire both Luskin and Gramm. Let people know that he'll STILL take all his advice from asswipes like Gramm and Luskin. Bring up the seven houses again!  This can revive it. Hammer it again and again. Repeat.

    "The only thing we have to fear - is fear itself." - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

    by orrg1 on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:29:08 AM PDT

    •  McCain is out of touch with economic pain (1+ / 0-)
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      felt by people in states like Michigan and all over the country. But wait, doesn't Palin, a Governor of the people, wife of a union steelworker innoculate McCain against being insensitive, even if he doesn't know how many houses he has? Sure, she's just an average person who got the taxpayers to fork over, what is it, 17,000 bucks per diem to stay in her own house. Can't we all just do that? Wouldn't that be great?

      HAMMER 'EM!!!

      "The only thing we have to fear - is fear itself." - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

      by orrg1 on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:44:37 AM PDT

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  •  Excellent diary! (4+ / 0-)

    Thanks for this. A great job of laying it all out.

  •  Listen up (11+ / 0-)

    This is  how I see it. Several days ago, I emailed all my email friends and said that I think the nomination of Sarah Palin was a stink bomb thrown in the room to distract us from the real message. I told them I would not send nor respond to any message re: Palin. I referred them to Hillary Clinton's brilliant and witty comment in her Florida speech: It's like expecting the iceberg to save the Titanic. I emailed emphatically that this was my last word on the subject!

    Your diary, Jeffrey, reminds us how right I am. We have allowed and, worse yet, participated in this outrageous distraction! Rather, we should be talking about Keith Olbermann's brillian challenge to McCain - that if McCain knows, as he keeps insisting he does, what to do to find Bin Laden, he should do it - or is he holding this knowledge hostage until and unless he becomes president. That comment was electrifying - I would post a link, but I don't know how - just google it. It will get all your creative juices flowing!!!!

  •  Do something... and be part of History... (13+ / 0-)

    I felt Gore should win, but was not convinced to volunteer for him.

    I felt Kerry should win, wanted to volunteer but in the end did not.

    I feel this election is unnecessary. Obama must win and the choice cannot be clearer for America. However, I live in reality and today I volunteered for the first time ever and canvassed for Obama in a town in the heart of New Hampshire.

    If a citizen of India can do this and feels responsible enough to commit time and energy, Americans who have the vote and the means to commit time and energy have no excuse. Go do something...

    I feel proud of my action today and feel like I am part of a historic event. And so can you...

    I canvassed in a town called Pembroke, near Concord NH. As part of a group of 3, we knocked on 66 doors and 37 answered. We identified 17 Obama supporters and 4 undecideds. 3 people were ready to volunteer.

    So, people out there waiting for some thing to move them to do something, hear me. Get to a swing state and help the Obama campaign in any way you can.

    I don't have a vote since I am not a citizen. Getting my local friends and neighbors to vote for Obama will not help since I live in Boston. However convincing them to volunteer in states like NH will help and I am doing that.

    Please, please do something.

    I promise you, you will be pleased. I met real Americans today on the trail and they listened to a man from India talk in support of Obama. Its possible to communicate with strangers, because people are hungry for change.

    Obama needs us. Do something...

    •  Tell People they can be a HERO. Their Country (1+ / 0-)
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      needs them, and NOW.



      Are your gas prices high? How are you doing with that? Does it scare you?

      Are your food costs high? How are you doing with that? Does it scare you?

      Are your medical costs high? How are you doing with that? Does it scare you?

      Are your savings for your retirement okay? How are you doing with that? Does it scare you?

      It's all in the numbers - register voters for Obama, Today! OBAMA/BIDEN '08!

      by Blue Waters Run Deep on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:46:04 AM PDT

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  •  This is what I want all of us to see: (13+ / 0-)


    "Hew out of the mountain of despair A Stone of Hope." -Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.

    by Patch Adam on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:32:26 AM PDT

  •  Thank you, thank you, thank you n/t (3+ / 0-)
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  •  A reminder: What this election is about. (12+ / 0-)

    Until the economy recovers, I'll settle for cheap laughs

    by Clyde the Cat on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:34:28 AM PDT

  •  I agree, but also want to point out that (2+ / 0-)
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    it IS important for the MSM to be doing real journalism that shows that Palin is manifestly unqualified and that McCain's willingness to put her a  72 year old heartbeat away from the presidency is proof that he has poor judgment and does not take our interests seriously and is willing to do anything to win.  And we - as leaders in a conversation - DO have a role to play in putting some this out there in a concise and well-supported fashion for the MSM to more readily pick up on and run with.

    Simply regurgitating old scandals and publishing diaries for the sole purpose of trying to promote what you think is some clever "meme" about Palin, however, is totally unhelpful, with that I agree.  

    •  I agree (2+ / 0-)
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      OK. You're right! With that and 10 cents you can't get a cup of coffee anywhere.

      It is a terrible waste of time and an indulgent distraction to keep repeating the same thing!!! They will win if they can take the initiative and get us off the issues that matter - the economy, the constitution - remember the constitution, folks??? they lose if we talk facts - it's as simple as that - and as effective!!!

      •  wrong (0+ / 0-)

        It is a terrible waste of time and an indulgent distraction to keep repeating the same thing

        How do you think Bush won twice?

        It turns out that Bush IS a uniter... he united the good half of the country virulently against him.

        by fizziks on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:49:10 PM PDT

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  •  I ordered 125$ of yard signs and stickers. (2+ / 0-)
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    I think. Therefore I O'Bama.

    by MarkMarvin on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:36:38 AM PDT

  •  Jeffrey (3+ / 0-)

    Please also tell it to Obama. He has looked tired which I'm sure he is. But, he needs to get the fire back, look happier.

  •  Here's an idea . . . please don't "falme" me! (1+ / 0-)
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    Just kidding.  "Falme" away.

    The idea is that we can organize ourselves, in this online community, to responsibly rid ourselves of Palin Anxiety.  The diarists' points are very well taken, and it's also true that anxiety will persist to some degree.  

    Could we take turns writing one daily "Official Palin" diary?  It would be the one "official" Palin diary of the day.  Is it possible that we could agree to contain our Palin comments within that one daily forum?  And would we want to make exceptions for ONLY those Palin diaries that contain TRULY breaking news?

    Just a thought.  Falme away . . .

    "Sarah Palin is the distilled essence of wingnut." -- John Cole

    by GreenMtnState on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:39:26 AM PDT

  •  SO right (2+ / 0-)
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    Right On! Get off of Palin and start focusing on McCain. The McCain campaign would LOVE this to be a contest between Palin and Obama because that is the only way they have a shot.  Let's get behind Obama and his message.  That's why 19M voted for him in the primary.  That's what allowed him to raise so much money from so many donors.  People like him for who he is, not who he's not.

    Yes We Can!

    •  I absolutely friggin' agree. (1+ / 0-)
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      I don't know where I saw it, but a very senior Repug strategist said if this election is about McCain, McCain loses.

      I agree that we've got to get the focus back on McCain. That's where they DON'T want it. They'll do ANYthing to distract from him. They basically want the election to be about just about anything else. Even moose.

      And nothing makes McCain look more moldy than a renewed focus on the message of Obama.

  •  "Listening up"? (2+ / 0-)
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    I feel like I'm in France. Where they speak English like that.

    Oh wait, I am.

    But you're not! ;)

  •  A more basic fear that does need talking about (3+ / 0-)
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    I've written a couple of dairies (here and here), along with a bunch of comments making the point that the core argument against McCain/Palin is that the prospect of them running the country is terrifying and that that is something, like the liar meme, that needs currency. It needs to be made explicit what a risk/danger they are, not just to ideals, but to survival as well.

    At least one pundit who many here admire comes to the same conclusion, namely Frank Rich:

    As Republicans know best, fear does work. If Obama is to convey just what’s at stake, he must slice through the campaign’s lipstick jungle and show Americans the real perils that lie around the bend.

    So while you're correct that we need to push our fear of losing behind us, I think that fear is based on a more fundamental fear of survival if Mccain/Palin wins.  That's the fear that needs to be talked about.  That's the 800 kiloton nuclear weapon in the room.

    The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

    by accumbens on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:40:15 AM PDT

    •  AGREE! - These 2 clowns are DOWNRIGHT DANGEROUS! (2+ / 0-)
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      If people think they're afraid NOW, just WAIT till one of them gets close to "the button." - and it doesn't matter which one.

      Even that former POW, who knows McCain from back in the day, said he's a "HOTHEAD" and "doesn't want him near 'the button'".

      My God - THIS IS the FEAR we need to emphasize!

      People would rather 'vote for a black man' then risk 'the button,' I am thinking! (i.e., this may be how to break thru the "undecided-cuz-i'm-too-scared-to-vote-for-a-black-man" voter).

      It's all in the numbers - register voters for Obama, Today! OBAMA/BIDEN '08!

      by Blue Waters Run Deep on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:55:33 AM PDT

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    •  Fear is not a suitable ally in this election. (1+ / 0-)
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      Fear engenders panic engenders poor decision-making. A McCain/Palin presidency would be bad, but we can handle bad. An Obama/Biden presidency would be good, and good is better than bad. Fear is poison and worry is a waste of time, but simple self-interest counsels us to point our nose towards the better option. With fear in the air you get this craven longing for a "strong man."

      "Your point. Their village." --Zhivago to Strelnikov

      by ailanthus on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:14:26 AM PDT

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      •  "Better option" (0+ / 0-)

        I think survival is the better option and if you think that McCain/Palin - or quite likely Palin/? - is just bad, I think you're whistling past the graveyard.

        The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

        by accumbens on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:13:46 PM PDT

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  •  Thanks! I'm going out canvassing (7+ / 0-)

    today and it's just what I needed to hear.

    Some of Obama's greatest hits to inspire us:

    YES WE CAN!!!

    "In the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope."

    "Nothing can stand in the way of the power of millions of voices calling for change."


    "Not this time."

    "We have been told that we cannot do this by a chorus of cynics who will only grow louder and more dissonant."

    "I'm asking you to believe, not only in my ability to bring real change to Washington, I'm asking you to believe in yours."


    "Marge, it takes two people to lie. One to lie and one to listen."--Homer Simpson

    by farrelad on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:40:23 AM PDT

  •  HOPE cannot be beaten by fearmongering (5+ / 0-)

    and make no mistake about it... ALL the 'woe is us' diaries are sure as the entire mccain campaign is fearmongering soooooooooo  before you post your next comment or diary THINK...  is it a positive motivational and information filled diary or is it just another handwringing, woe is us diary...serving no purpose other than to feed into the fear the McCain camp is hoping will take hold across the nation?

    I say ENOUGH... enough worrying, enough caving, enough buying onto the gop BS..  ENOUGH!!!

    worrying didnt get us here...  BELIVING IN HOPE FOR A BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR OUR NATION got us here!!

    ignore the gop BS...  go forth and inspire HOPE that we can and we WILL defeat the right this time...  

    can we do it?  YES, WE CAN!!!!

    McCain/Palin = Four More years of LIES

    by KnotIookin on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:40:28 AM PDT

  •  A Question About the Logic of Repition (2+ / 0-)
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    If repeating "Palin, Palin, Palin" only helps people remember Palin and works to the GOP's advantage, then how come McCain repeating "Obama, Obama, Obama" doesn't help people remember Obama, and work to our advantage?

    •  Good question. (2+ / 0-)
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      But if you look at the MSM headlines, they seem to be focused primarily on McCain/Palin.

      Not all of their articles on McCain/Palin are positive, mind you--but you hear McCain/Palin much more than Obama/Biden, you think about them more. And they therefore become the stronger brand, the center of attention.

      Attack ads are intended to suppress turnout in the other party's base, right? Our current state of negativity is the goal of their attack ads.

      McCain's selection of Palin turns out their religious base, and gets us to shift focus to them, away from our side. We need first to shift focus to the economy. Next we need to focus our negative attacks on Palin/McCain's complete lack of economic credentials to suppress turnout of their non-religious (fiscal conservative) base. We should to reach out to the religious people in small towns, only to try to diminish their fervency. Finally, we need to use hopeful optimism, and focus on our own competence, to turn out our own base.

      You cannot depend upon American institutions to function without pressure. --MLK Jr.

      by Opakapaka on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:48:48 AM PDT

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      •  Just so. (1+ / 0-)
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        Republicans roiling the waters creates confusion. The only way out of confusion is clarity. Clarity is like a guiding star above the roiling waters. People criticize Obama for seeming detached and above the fray, but in the end it's that cool detachment of a leader we're all counting on. With confusion there is just flailing around. With clarity there is direction and with direction there is purpose and optimism. It's not always noisy and sexy, but it is always essential and it is always there if people take the time to look for it. Just blindly flailing around in the soup of fear and confusion accomplishes precisely nothing.

        "Your point. Their village." --Zhivago to Strelnikov

        by ailanthus on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:21:59 AM PDT

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  •  I just yesterday told a strong repug friend (12+ / 0-)

    who is absolutely convinced McCain will win "I'm really really optimistic about Obama winning"...She was dumbfounded.  "Why she asked"...

    "Because I know this is a ground game race and Obama is way way ahead on the ground game in the right states at the right time with the right tone and with the right message."

    She was not happy that I was so upbeat. It sort of took the wind out of her political sails... I'm using that meme every chance I have.  I'm in a red state and I want the repugs here to know that it is not red all over this country and we are picking up steam every day.

    Go OBAMA - BIDEN - optimists unite!

    "We cannot turn back.. At this moment, in this election, we must pledge once more to march into the future." --Barack Obama

    by Kyman on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:43:39 AM PDT

    •  LOL! (0+ / 0-)

      She was not happy that I was so upbeat. It sort of took the wind out of her political sails... I'm using that meme every chance I have.

      And isn't that life?  Some people just hate to see others happy and confident, LOL.  I love that you're pushing it.

      "I've been called worse on the basketball court." Barack Obama 9/4/08

      by PoliticalJunkessa on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:36:44 AM PDT

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  •  BTW I agree (4+ / 0-)

    Er, or that would be "Agreeing!"

    Here's my latest LTE:

    This is the thing to know about McCain and war: He will do it again.

    When speaking of the war in Iraq, John McCain wants to turn the conversation away from the disastrous choice that he and Bush made to invade. That's all in the past, he says, what matters is how we clean up the mess now.

    Well, this isn't what matters the most. Not really. I mean it matters a great deal. but what matters much more is not electing a President who will do it again , somewhere else. Then we'd still have to deal with the mess in Iraq, plus fight in another war that would drain our resources and our reputation even more.

    And he will. He will do this. Sarah Palin's stating coldly that she'd start a war with Russia is really no different from McCain's open saber rattling and his jokes about bombing Iran and so on.

    The very idea of debating with McCain the best method of cleaning up the catastrophic mistake of Iraq, while at the same time he and his running mate make it clear that they would march off into another disastrous blunder just like it in a heartbeat, it's absurd. It's misdirection and it's amazing that anyone is falling for it.

    If you want more years of war and economic disaster, resulting from it, then vote for McCain. That's really what it comes down to.

  •  Palin obsession (1+ / 0-)
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    The lovely and talented Ms. Emptywheel has given 75% of the posts to Palin because there is so much muckraking to be done about her. On a blog such as EW's or Josh's, this reinforces the theme that Palin is a Republican. You do not have to say that McCain = Bush or Palin = Cheney to say that both of them are Republicans and both of them have promised economic policies based on keeping taxes low and eliminating earmarks to pay for it all, as just one example. The choice between Obama and McCain can be cast as someone who will vigorously pursue Democratic domestic policies or one who will be a figurehead who watches for wasteful spending and fights our wars. I suppose "McCain is a  Republican" is not a earth-shattering message for a blog such as this one.

    -4.00, -5.33 The Revolution Will Be Twittered

    by 4jkb4ia on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:47:05 AM PDT

    •  When it's tied, it is scary (0+ / 0-)

      The election being close enough to steal is only one reason. Also we have primeval memories of 2004. However being tied is better than being down by 10 points, especially when there is a month and a half to play.

      -4.00, -5.33 The Revolution Will Be Twittered

      by 4jkb4ia on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:48:49 AM PDT

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  •  What would help me is... (5+ / 0-)

    I'm one of those in the grip of so much fear I can hardly go a day without crying.

    And I don't blog about it. I don't feed it with "Chicken Little" crap. I don't post Palin diaries and I don't do any of the things people are doing that get so much criticism and that are demoralizing to other people.

    I volunteer for the campaign, I've raised and donated money that adds up to thousands of dollars, I'm talking one on one to people I know who live in swing states about volunteering where they live, I'm going to be going to a nearby swing state to register voters. I'm being a good and dutiful Democrat in every way I know how.

    But I'm so caught in terror and I wish with all my heart that someone I believed, someone with credibility, would spell out in clear language HOW we get to victory from where we are today.

    I don't want reassuring words or general advice on being positive. I want a narrative, a reliable narrative, about how this could work, because I'm not a political operative or a policy wonk, I'm just a smart person, a professional journalist, and a liberal who is scared out of her freaking mind and isn't sure what's going on any more.

    I believe every word in this diary. I'm following it. But it doesn't fix my fear. I just doesn't. And my fear is starting to overwhelm me.

    •  Fear is a mind killer. (2+ / 0-)
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      4Freedom, ailanthus

      Overcome your fear.  Speak with someone who has faced a real life or death struggle, a war, a disaster.  Take this advice from the daughter of a survivor of four years in a Nazi prison camp and a survivor of fourteen months in a Russian concentration camp: there is no room for fear if you are busy confronting the enemy.  You do what you must do to stay alive or else you die.  Do you want to die?  Continue feeding your fear and you surely will for you will have become frozen and out of the struggle.  Choose to live and do what is necessary to stay alive.

      Use that as an analogy for our political struggle.  Work as if it were life or death.  Remember the words of Harriet Tubman:

      If you hear the dogs, keep going.

      If you see the torches in the woods, keep going.

      If they're shouting after you, keep going.

      Don't ever stop. Keep going.

      If you want a taste of freedom, keep going.

      To stay alive, keep going.  Lay down your fear and pick up the sword you've been given.  You have words; you know how to use them; put them to use. Keep going.

      Droogie is dead. Long live Droogie

      by Involuntary Exile on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:17:16 AM PDT

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      •  I know you mean well... (1+ / 0-)
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        but you just did the exact thing I said is not helping me: advice on dealing with my emotions.

        I am 49 years old and the granddaughter of Holocauast survivors and a lesbian who saw a generation of her friends die of AIDS in the 80s, and my mother is currently undergoing cancer treatment. I know about life and death struggles.

        I am already BUSY confronting the enemy. I am not "feeding my fear," I am ASKING FOR SPECIFIC HELP to help me combat it. So I can keep going.

        This type of inspiring uplifting and entirely generic advice DOES NOT HELP ME with my fear.

        •  are you taking care of yourself? (2+ / 0-)
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          4Freedom, RosyFinch

          perhaps you need a little break--I know when I am not taking care of myself, it's easier for fear to take over.  But you know what - once I'm rested, it's easier for the fear energy to turn into righteous anger energy ... "NOT THIS TIME", you know?
          I'd also suggest reading books on visualization - always get me centered. Highly recommend Shakti Gawain's Creative Visualization.

        •  Fear like a churning ocean of anxiety? (1+ / 0-)
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          How to still that ocean? Maybe locate the subtle point inside yourself that is not that churning ocean, like the eye of a hurricane, and then by sustained attention take up encampment there. The simplest, most useful, most practical means of attaining peace of mind that I've ever run across comes from a person named Prem Rawat. More about him at

          "Your point. Their village." --Zhivago to Strelnikov

          by ailanthus on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:36:10 AM PDT

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        •  You have the narrative already. (0+ / 0-)

          The narrative has been plastered all over the front page of this site and in numerous diaries on the rec list for weeks.  Try these:  

          Frameshop: The Winning Frame has Emerged (UPDATE) by Jeffrey Feldman.
          More of the Same by georgia10
              Or this excellent diary
          Some People Are Emotions Voter by davefromqueens

          My list is by no means exhaustive.  Search out more.  Speak with Obama field staff.  The information you seek is and has been all around you.  What more are you looking for?

          Droogie is dead. Long live Droogie

          by Involuntary Exile on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:46:34 AM PDT

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          •  Those are frames. (0+ / 0-)

            I have the frame. I love the frame. I use the frame.

            I'm talking about some credible speculation on the stages to victory. Like, "Obama is down by X percent in five key states. If we can register X percent of new voters in three of those states, and X percent of them vote for Obama, we flip that state. And the ground game in those five states is thus and so, therefore, this is a strategy that is currently being enacted."

            This kind of strategy narrative focuses me. It reassures me. It gives me something concrete to work for.

            Telling me to have faith and hang in there just makes me feel even more isolated.

            I believe I've now crossed over into the kind of comment that is just upsetting others, and I don't want to do that. But I do feel grateful for those who tried to respond and give a girl a hand... I get that Daily Kos is not a group therapy site. But back in the early days of the AIDS epidemic, I remember the exact moment those of us on the front lines finally realized we needed something more than just white-knuckling it to get through our struggle, and I'm there now.

      •  Harriet Tubman (0+ / 0-)

        Actually, that quote turns out to be made up.

        See Did Harriet Tubman Really Say That?

    •  As a non-religious person, I feel funny saying... (1+ / 0-)
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      Involuntary Exile

      this, but here goes: if you are still working hard in spite of your fear, and doing all you can do...then you're just going to have to have faith.

      Nobody is going to be able to give you an iron clad narrative and be able to spell out to you what will happen between now and November 5th -- because nobody knows.  Only Obama's inner circle knows their exact strategy and we are not privy to that, no matter how many people on here are trying to armchair-quarterback his every move.  In this respect, we need to mimic the other side:  they listen to what their leaders are saying and fall in line.  Why?  Because they want to WIN and they believe in what they are doing.

      I sense that you are deathly afraid of being disappointed, which taps into a deeper fear of thinking you've been foolish.  You have to fight that and proceed anyway.  Keep in mind:  there are only 50-something days to go.  We can do anything for just another 50 days.  We can look back on November 5th and analyze what has happened (whatever the result is) -- but until then let's just move forward.  At least you will know that you have done all you can do.

      "I've been called worse on the basketball court." Barack Obama 9/4/08

      by PoliticalJunkessa on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:46:47 AM PDT

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      •  I know, however... (0+ / 0-)

        I don't need an iron clad narrative. I would just benefit from a credible narrative.

        I have fallen in line. I'm not afraid of being disappointed nor do I worry about feeling I've been foolish.

        I just would like someone with some credibility to spell out a narrative -- more than one is fine -- by which we can win, so I can feel there is something more tangible than just faith and hope under my feet.

        I don't need Obama's super sekrit strategy and a guarantee, but I am feeling very much in need of something more specific than exhortations to hang on and keep fighting.

        I'm not going to belabor this further. It's just been something I've been struggling with the last week or so, that while I agree that there are far too many "Chicken Littles," the "DONATE! VOLUNTEER! SOLDER ON!" messages that rebut them are great advice, and I'm doing that, but there is something else that would help me more.

        •  I understand. (2+ / 0-)
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          ChristieKeith, 4Freedom

          I think we are just coming from two different mindsets because I see 50 days as not a long time to have to "hang on and keep fighting."  I see a meta-narrative:  Obama has to get more votes on a state-by-state basis than McCain.  That's really it as I see it and it's enough to keep me going.  He either will or he won't.  The harder we fight for it, the greater the possibility that he will.  

          I don't know his internals, exactly what strategy he, Plouffe and Axelrod have cooked up, or a fail-safe narrative that will predict for me the end results.  I only know what we have been asked to do:  volunteer (in myriad ways) and/or give money.

          I sincerely hope you find what need to keep going, and it's great to hear about what you've been doing.

          "I've been called worse on the basketball court." Barack Obama 9/4/08

          by PoliticalJunkessa on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:20:52 AM PDT

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        •  Three things (1+ / 0-)
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          1. New voter registration is phenomenal. I don't have the numbers, but we're registering more voters than the margins by which Kerry won in many states. They'll lock up their early votes too, since they know exactly who they are while the other side is just getting around to id'ing their supporters.
          1. The media is starting to wake up. It's been a long time coming but it looks like certain segments of the media are going to call bullshit.
          1. The debates. Obama is going to kick ass. McCain is far likelier to make a gaffe than our guy. After three of those, the narrative will be fixed: Obama represents change from the Republican party's disasters, McCain is an old guy who thinks Alan Greenspan is dead and can't tell the difference between Sunnis and Shi'ites.
        •  Your heart isn't in it. (1+ / 0-)
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          You've given up.

          You are looking for a narrative, "a story" by which we win?  It's the McCain campaign that's focused on narrative.  You are not going to get one from the Obama/Biden side.  Obama and Biden are working with all their might to move the election from narrative to issues.  It's up to us to help shift the electorate from narrative, to get them to focus on one question and one question only, the question Barack asks his audience at every town hall and rally:

          Are you better off than you were four years ago, eight years ago?

          That is not a narrative.  It is a query focused on the single most important issue uppermost in the minds of the majority of voters.

          Focus on that.

          Droogie is dead. Long live Droogie

          by Involuntary Exile on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:59:46 AM PDT

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          •  Not that kind of narrative. (0+ / 0-)

            I was referring to a credible explanation of how this campaign can move from where we are today to victory in November. Sound bites and framing are not the problem. I don't GET how this is going to work.

            You say my heart's not in it? Thanks for the flash. Isn't that what I said, that I need something to give me heart? Exactly how helpful do you think it is, to have your admission that your heart is faltering, to have someone accuse you of having given up?

            I even identified what would help hearten me. If you don't have it, that's fine. I don't have it either or I wouldn't be asking for it.

    •  Remember the primaries. (1+ / 0-)
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      Involuntary Exile

      I've said this elsewhere, but I'll say it again. Polls are estimates. Estimates only. And they are wrong. The polls were wrong in the primaries and Obama won a lot of states he wasn't "supposed" to win. The narrative was on Clinton's side.

      So don't buy into the meta-media-poll thing. It is close, and like in a sporting event, it will keep us energized. How many great teams have lost games when they got lazy when they were ahead?

      There is a lot of work to do. Have a fundraiser, canvass, take action - this is the best antidote. Really. We have a house rule that every time the Reppugs piss us off we send $$$ to Obama. It's adding up, and it feels good to do.

    •  find Libby Roderick cd (0+ / 0-)

      I think there are comforting words to remember -
      highly recommend the album If You See a Dream

      Words and music by Libby Roderick
      c Libby Roderick Music 1989
      BMI. All rights reserved.
      From If You See a Dream

      Go to sleep, welcome the night
      I will be here in the morning light
      Slip into dreams, you've done all that you can
      I'll hold you hear in the dawn.

      Sunset in your country, sunrise in mine
      Lay down your body, feel mine begin to rise
      Sunset in my country, sunrise in yours
      I feel you there in the dawn.

      The forces facing us are terrible indeed
      My hope may flicker in the night
      But in the morning I will plant another seed
      And while you sleep it seeks the light.

      Go to sleep...

      There are no promises that we will see the day
      The dreams we live for will succeed
      But I can promise you that half 'way round the world
      I'll hold the light up while you sleep

      We need a quiet place to let our spirits be
      Somewhere that we are safe from harm
      So my beloveds, as the moonbeams touch the sea
      Rest in the cradle of the dawn

      Go to sleep...
      I'll hold you here in the dawn
      Rest in the cradle of dawn.

      artist's website

      "You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them." [Ray Bradbury]

      by RosyFinch on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 01:07:55 PM PDT

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  •  Before today is OVER, personally commit - Yes, (2+ / 0-)
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    Involuntary Exile, orangeuglad

    SIGN UP, to go to a battleground state for at least ONE DAY.

    There and back, in ONE DAY.

    ONE DAY of your life, to ensure your future.

    ONE DAY AWAY from the keyboard, to ensure your future.



    It's all in the numbers - register voters for Obama, Today! OBAMA/BIDEN '08!

    by Blue Waters Run Deep on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:50:15 AM PDT

    •  I like your idea. (0+ / 0-)

      But I guess you don't live in the middle of Texas!  It's more like one day to get there, one day to get back, and I guess a day in-between to do something.

      But I'll do what I can...from here.

      "No matter how cynical I get, it's just never enough to keep up." - Lily Tomlin

      by orangeuglad on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 01:45:08 PM PDT

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  •  Palin diaries should be headined by McCain (2+ / 0-)
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    Noodles, karpaty

    context -so it's ok to write abnout her, but the main point should be what it shows about McCain

    •  They're about McCain's poor decision. But the OP (0+ / 0-)

      makes me wonder. I don't necessarily disagree, but if we need to push the emotional buttons of the electorate, don't we need to do it with both hope on the Obama side and fear on the McCain side?

      If policy and facts supposedly aren't sticking with the electorate (and here, we've been doing the repetition thing since 2003 so why are they not?) how does Obama bring hope and McCain bring misunderstanding?

      The 2008 Republican Party Convention: The chickenhawks come home to roost.

      by Noodles on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:29:24 AM PDT

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  •  I agree (4+ / 0-)

    I'm sick of Palin.  

    I'm more sick of the lies though. I think the reason people are writing about her is the REAL possibility that she will be president.  That is scarier than McCain at this point.

    I have a feeling that the debates will put us on top.

    I can't volunteer my time (3 kids, working etc...) But I can donate what little money I have and getting the word out!!!!

  •  Glad to see this hit the rec list (1+ / 0-)
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    Especially when your previous similar diary was buried under an avalanche of... Palin diaries!

  •  Practice what you preach... (3+ / 0-)
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    maizenblue, karpaty, From the Middle

    ...all stop panicking diaries are, well, a sign of panic.

    Stop talking about what people should do and just do.

  •  There's no such thing as bad publicity. (1+ / 0-)
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    McCain/Palin are getting all of the publicity, and we're giving it to them by focusing all of our attention on them.

    You cannot depend upon American institutions to function without pressure. --MLK Jr.

    by Opakapaka on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:57:41 AM PDT

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    Thank you.

  •  I wish I could rec this more than once... (3+ / 0-)
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    hester, 4Freedom, RosyFinch

    Great Diary!!   This afternoon I am attending an organizational meeting in our tiny town in the reddest part of a RED State........there are a LOT of Obama supporters here and we aim to produce more by Election Day!!  

    "What, Me Worry?"...King George Walker Alfred Eusless Newman Bush

    by RantNRaven on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:58:55 AM PDT

  •  In my mind... (2+ / 0-)
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    hester, 4Freedom

    I rec this about a hundred times.

    But the site only allows that will have to do.

    "Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do." ~Voltaire

    by The BBQ Chicken Madness on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:58:56 AM PDT

  •  A Quibble. (6+ / 0-)

    Over at Left in Alabama I put up a Front Pager a little while ago.

    Basically, it links the LIES of Palin/McCain to local Republican candidates for Congress.

    Take 6-8 minutes, read it.

    Bottom line:  it IS good to talk about Palin/McCain being serial, pathological liars and, also, talk about Obama's plans for . . .

    >  $150 Billion for Green Collar jobs,

    >  Tax breaks for Middle Class Americans,

    >  Returning the U.S. to a place of respect on the World Stage...

    This discredits the McCain Campaign, discredits those Republican Americans running for Congress/Senate and supports and "lifts-up" the Obama/Biden ticket.


    "We in the gloam, old buddy," he said, "We definitely right in the middle of it." -Larry Brown

    by BenGoshi on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:59:30 AM PDT

  •  Couldn't agree more with the diary... (2+ / 0-)
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    Jeffrey Feldman, 4Freedom

    but with the polls tied, no wonder people get scared. That said let's keep working for a better tomorrow as you suggest :)

    Right now we need much more than a good soldier, we need a great leader... and keep thinking: "Obama needs just one more vote to win".

    by From the Middle on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 09:59:38 AM PDT

    •  true...but (4+ / 0-)

      people need to keep in mind that the Big Pants media wants the story 'the polls are close!' so that people will watch their TeeVee.  That's no comment against TV, it's just that the real story is very likely not the one being parroted by every single news outlet trying to beat FOX in the Nielsons.  

      What we can do is be a truly powerful counterweight to that kind of profit-driven story.  We can prevent that story from dominating in our own lives and in the lives of people close to us.

      And P.S.:  Great sig line!

      Tired of violent language from right-wing pundits? Buy my book: Outright Barbarous

      by Jeffrey Feldman on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:09:32 AM PDT

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    •  Tied/close polls can be a good thing. (1+ / 0-)
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      They are an antidote to complacency. Look how energizing they are!

      Also, let's remember that one of the biggest stories in the primaries was how Wrong the polls were. Remember that? Way back? It was big news. The fact is, the polls are only an estimate.

      In fact, the word "estimate" would be a good one to use whenever discussing polls... like, "the polls today ESTIMATE that this percentage currently support this candidate..."

  •  THANKYOU! (2+ / 0-)
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    Jeffrey Feldman, schuylkill

    I've been trying to say the same thing. But nooo, everybody has an opinion. Glad that at least one diarist shares my view.

    Let's F(*^&%&G DO IT!

    "Country first". Which country John?

    by Kairos on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:00:47 AM PDT

  •  Thanks for the Pep Talk (1+ / 0-)
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    Jeffrey Feldman

    I feel peppier already!

    Srsly, let's not let the McCain daily vomitus slow us down.  We can do this thing if we stop letting daily polls influence our thinking, and more importantly our actions.

    Need I say it?  YES! WE CAN!

  •  Let's Barack and roll! (2+ / 0-)
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    4Freedom, Rick in Oz
  •  Thank you and you are right, I'M IN! (2+ / 0-)
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    4Freedom, Rick in Oz
  •  right on...this is righteous advice..mahalo (2+ / 0-)
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    sam07, 4Freedom
  •  Hooah!!! Stay focused on who we are!!! (2+ / 0-)
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    4Freedom, Rick in Oz

    Progressives; optimists; hopefuls; and believers of Obama's message of reform from the ground up and of participating in our democracy.

    Go Barack...go Joe!!

    Thanks for the great diary, Jeffrey...hope everyone reads and heeds.

    Warm regards and Peace!

    "For it isn't enough to talk about peace. One must believe in it. And it isn't enough to believe in it. One must work at it." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    by Donise on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:07:58 AM PDT

  •  Do you really think... (3+ / 0-)
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    Liberal Thinking, 4Freedom, tojojo

    Do you really think "they have us scrambling?" Do you really think "We. Are. AFRAID?" Why do you feel you can speak for "us?" I, for one, can only speak for myself; but I know I'm not afraid, and I sure as hell ain't scrambling.

    "Tough love?" As in, a paternal voice of wisdom correcting the errors of foolish, wayward children? Gimme a break. Acting superior to others just because they disagree with you about the best means to a common end isn't helpful.

    The truth of the matter is that an election isn't like a multiple-choice math test, where one answer is right and all the others are wrong. There are lots of ways to beat John McCain; they can probably be more effective in combination than separately.  That's why telling others what not to say is not only offensive, but also counterproductive.

    ----------------- this .sig kills fascists

    by karpaty on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:08:05 AM PDT

  •  Here Here! (2+ / 0-)
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    Jeffrey Feldman, 4Freedom

    Let's draw the clear cut choice between McCain and Obama.

    Obama thinks that the debates will provide voters with and unfiltered view of the clear choice between him and McCain.

    I think it may but we can't allow voters to become calcified until that point.  

    Let's go get em...only 7 weeks to go!!!!

    "They're asking for another four years -- in a just world, they'd get 10 to 20." - Rep. Dennis Kucinich

    by cmlane on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:10:49 AM PDT

  •  Pull ourselves up by our bootstraps! (1+ / 0-)
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    Rick in Oz

    Thank you for the encouragement!  We need to stop miring in the muck and get on with this thing!  Positive thinking!  Forward march!  YES WE CAN!  I just donated again.  Thank you.  Thank you.

  •  Agreed! (1+ / 0-)
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    We need to learn some lessons from this campaign season.

    1.  The Palin diaries are just as destructive to the ultimate goal as the Hillary-bashing diaries were.  The diarist correctly points out that Palin diaries are wrong, but so were the anti-HRC rants.  I went from Kucinich to an Edwards/Obama vacillation to eventually supporting Obama, but I could not believe some of the vapid anti-Hillary diaries I read here.  All you had to do to get on the rec list was to bash Hillary, responsibly or irresponsibly.  That sort of thing will have to change the next time we are in a similar spot (hopefully, 8 years from now).

    2.  Don't forget about the down ticket races.  I think that Daily Kos, more than any other online community, helped the Democrats win the 06 midterms.  Basically, house and senate diaries connected folks from the same district/state to organize and raise money.  Just because we have a candidate running for president doesn't mean that those other races are not JUST AS IMPORTANT!

    3.  Please respect those who may have a slightly different take.  Some of the comments I have both made myself and read by others have been way over the top.  We should be the model for civil debate, and the candidate diaries and the FISA fight showed a very ugly side to some of us.  Let's do better next time.

    Good diary!

    ¨An inglorious peace is better than a dishonorable war.¨ - Mark Twain

    by Indiana Bob on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:11:21 AM PDT

  •  I just saw on the (3+ / 0-)

    52 days diary that early voting in Virginia starts on the 19th. That is this Friday! We need to call Virginia and get them to the polls early to lock in as many votes as possible. Ohio early voting starts on 9/30. We need to lock in those votes. Good thing Hillary is there today for two rallies. Geeze, I'm nervous, excited and scared all at the same time.

    Does anyone know if Obama is going to make a push for early voting in these key states? Time is flying!

    In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act. ~George Orwell

    by ElizabethAM on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:11:34 AM PDT

  •  Personally.. (1+ / 0-)
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    Personally I'm boycotting all the Palin diaries.  I'm sick and tired of hearing about Palin.  I want to hear more about Obama and his message.  

    "Strength and wisdom are not opposing values" - Bill Clinton.

    by RAST on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:12:06 AM PDT

  •  I hereby take credit for Obama's win. Thank you! (4+ / 0-)
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    Jeffrey Feldman, fhcec, dirtfarmer, edg

    "What's that, space?" you ask. "How could you have single-handedly snatched victory from the mouth of defeat?"

    Simple.  The campaign had lost momentum.  McCain was lying and trashing Obama with impunity.

    Then, on October 10, 2008, I posted a diary  saying how the Obama campaign should react, in part:

    A good man doesn't run a sleazy, deceptive ad accusing his opponent of forcing sex ed on kindergarteners and suggesting -- hell, that was the single sleaziest ad that I have ever seen in a Presidential campaign. Ever.

    Actually, I posted it as a phony quote of Biden's that I wished that he would say.  It was wildly unpopular.  A torrent of profanity was unleashed in response.  There were calls for my banning.  Veritable death threats ensued.  I was troll-rated.  Repeatedly.

    Then, three days later, an Obama spokeperson issued a response that was substantially similar:

    We will take no lectures from John McCain who is cynically running the sleaziest and least honorable campaign in modern Presidential campaign history. His discredited ads with disgusting lies are running all over the country today. He runs a campaign not worthy of the office he is seeking.

    This much tougher tone of the Obama campaign triggered an onslaught of tougher media scrutiny of McCain's tactics, culminating in the NYTimes piece.  Suddenly, we can all feel the tide is turning and Obama is on the cusp of pulling away from McCain for good.

    Needless to say, there is only one posible explanation for all this:  I single-handedly saved the campaign.  

    Thank you very much.  Donations to the charity of your choice will be accepted in lieu of congratulatory gifts.

  •  post new lies when you see em (2+ / 0-)
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    perhaps somewhere we can go that we can list the new lies as they appear.
    Saw one this morning on Late Edition. McCain supported the tanker deal going to Europe originally against Boeing. His botox grinning barbie brought up he voted against funding this thing.


    umm how do you add a signature?

    by bunkai on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:13:57 AM PDT

    •  Bumersticker Slogan: (0+ / 0-)

      Bush Lied And You Know It.
      John McCain. More Of The Same.

      •  But where's Obama? (0+ / 0-)

        See, the point with just "more of the same" is the risk that enough people to make the difference will think, "Well, at least it won't get any worse."

        No--the point is Change and Hope and Solving Real Problems, and that means Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama.  For cryin' out loud, I think I'm seeing the names "Palin" and "McCain" more often than "Obama" RIGHT HERE ON DAILY KOS.  WTF is up with that?  

        We're not here to beat John McCain--we're here to ELECT BARACK OBAMA.

        The '60s were simply an attempt to get the 21st Century started early....Well, what are we waiting for? There's no deadline on a dream!

        by Panurge on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:24:32 AM PDT

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    Not being so PESSIMISTIC!  It's not over, there is time to take back the narrative!  

    "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"

    He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death." ~ Thomas Paine

    by trustno1 on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:15:17 AM PDT

  •  Many great points (2+ / 0-)
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    But while I agree that 90% of the diaries about Palin are pointless, I don't agree that running against her is a mistake.  

    I think the focus should be on Palin.  The left can spend all our time huffing and puffing about McCain while the press ignores him to focus on Sarah.  Which is how they've gotten into the game.  Sink Sarah though, and you've sunk McCain.  Because if someone isn't comfortable with Sarah Palin being their president in a few months, they've got no place voting for 72 year old cancer survivor John McCain.  That's a pretty tough frame for them to deal with if that's the way the country winds up talking about this election.

    We can't get lost in the weeds of Palinmania.  But we can run against her and win the election.  

    Fear is the mind killer

    by Sun dog on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:17:11 AM PDT

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      I think you're right. First of all, the energy had to go somewhere. Letting people vent about it here was probably a good thing. Incidentally, it created a huge amount of opposition research on her.

      We should just take that now and turn to the task of targeting our fire. We need to think about what's going to sink their ticket.

      Here are the key things about Palin that I think are useful for that purpose:

      (1) She did a poor job of handling the finances in Wassila. She increased taxes for the poor, decreased them for the rich, and left what was a debt-less town mired in debt. Why should fiscally conservative Republicans ever vote for her? If this is McCain's idea of how someone should run the executive, why should they vote for McCain?

      (2) Her experience as a governor is eerily similar to that of George Bush. She is a first-term governor with an ideological bent and penchant for vindictiveness. This is just like getting another version of the Bush Administration. If you liked the last eight years, you'll love four more with McCain and Palin.

      (3) In all this, we are seeing what McCain really thinks the presidency should be like. He's revealing his values in picking her.

      (4) McCain and Palin aren't personalities in isolation. They are getting their support from the same group of rich people and multinational corporations that supported the Bush Administration. Palin's gas pipeline is a perfect example. (See ALERT: Palin’s Pipeline is a Climate Crisis Acceleration Machine by Dengre.) It's designed to enrich oil companies and offload risk on the taxpayers. Where will that gas end up? In Canada, destroying the environment to produce oil that can then be sold to us at a high profit. Palin is a way of sneaking the oil interests back into the federal government.

      We need to use Palin to lead the discussion back to the issues, where Obama is on solid ground. We also need to use her to tie their ticket to the Bush Administration. We need to show how this ticket is unattractive to fiscal conservatives. Everything that does that will make them more vulnerable and gain votes for Obama or suppress votes for McCain.

      Whether it fits into Obama's vision or not, that's what we must do to win this election.

      •  Just run the clip (1+ / 0-)
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        Liberal Thinking

        "I told Congrss, thanks but no thanks," over and over until it's all people can think when they see her.  It undercuts everything about her and the whole ticket.  For one, they're liars and once you know what a lie that is, watching the clip is brutal.  The other thing is that knowing that, you'll never believe that they're reformers.  She is connected to the most emblematic bit of pork in a generation.  

        Define her with it and don't get stuck in the weeds.  

        Fear is the mind killer

        by Sun dog on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:52:52 PM PDT

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          Sun dog

          But we need to extend it. What's critical about that clip is not just that she's lying, it's what she's lying about. She's lying about being fiscally responsible. She isn't.

          We need to hammer on that because we want to divide Republican voters. We want to confront them with this question: Are you really serious about reining in government spending? Are you a real fiscal conservative? Because, if you are, you can't vote for McCain-Palin. They'll give you exactly what Bush gave you: unlimited borrowing and mismanagement of the economy.

          After that, we need to tie it back to Obama's good handling of the economy. We need to push that tax cuts for the middle class and tax increases for the super-rich are exactly what the economy needs. We have to pump money back into the consumer economy or we could drift from recession into depression. Also, moving wealth-creating jobs back to the U.S. by better handling our international trade is critical to paying off the debt, and that's exactly where Obama is headed.

          Obama has the only fiscally responsible plan and the only one that will repair the economy. If we give it to these jokers, we'll be building a bridge to Russia over the North Pole.

          Talk about a bridge to nowhere!

  •  Hear, hear! Rec'd and Tipped n/t (0+ / 0-)
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    Tipped and rec'd. This message is sorely needed right now.

    Registered voters yesteday; today I'm meeting with others to encourage them to register people, protect voting rights, and then take voters to the polls during early voting in Miami. We will win Florida this time.

    -7.38, -5.23 "Though the storm may be raging, and the billows tossing high, Lord I feel like going on."

    by CocoaLove on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:20:14 AM PDT

  •  Excellent advice -- it's psychological warfare (1+ / 0-)
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    Liberal Thinking

    It's blatantly obvious that one of the major goals of the McCain campaign is to demoralize its opposition.  It is to take the "shine" off of Obama, to create panic.  To make people doubt their own success!  Your point about FEAR is so correct.  I have posted about not being afraid, but that type of voice gets drowned out when people are on a Chicken Little mission.  We forget that the times the Republicans have been MOST DEMORALIZED and most reactive have been when we have been our most positive, focused, and hopeful.

    I can tell you are a leader because leaders know how to stay focused on the goal and the big picture.  Your points about optimism and repetition are spot on.  Thanks for the pep talk!

    We need to start seeing optimism, courage, and unflagging confidence as WEAPONS THAT WILL WIN US THIS ELECTION.

    "I've been called worse on the basketball court." Barack Obama 9/4/08

    by PoliticalJunkessa on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:22:28 AM PDT

  •  Yes we can! eom (0+ / 0-)

    Obama/Biden '08. Experience the Change.

    by marabout40 on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:23:28 AM PDT

  •  I am puzzled. (3+ / 0-)

    I love your diary, just LOVE it and agree with it for the most part.... but here's my question. I keep reading that one should attack the candidate's strength, looks to me like SP is McCain's strength..... (not for us.... but for fence-sitters)... so why not attack her as showing how abysmal McCain's judgement is?

    Who are these diaries for? Us.... we are all preaching to ourselves anyhow.

    I live in CT. What the ef can I do? It's a blue state. Because of overwhelming family responsibilities I don't think I can go to NH as I did in 2004 (worked for HoHo Dean) to work/canvass. I am shitty on the phone. I give moolah.... but what else can I do from CT?

    "The truth waits for eyes unclouded by longing." The Tao Te Ching

    by hester on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:23:31 AM PDT

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      You have a good point. But is Palin really a strength for McCain? I think they threw her out there specifically to be a distraction. So, in some sense, getting distracted by attacking her is a problem.

      We have to be smart about how we attack this strength. We have to attack her in a way that attacks him. So, in all of our attacks, we should be sure to use her exactly for that purpose.

      Example: Palin did a lousy job with Wasilla's finances. She left the city in debt after spending money on a bobble. This is just like what Bush has done in the last administration. He wastes money because he doesn't know where to spend it in the best interests of the country. By selecting Palin, McCain shows bad judgment. Is this his idea of how to run the presidency?

      Here I've taken Palin's weakness and transferred it onto McCain while tying them both back to the Bush Administration. This hurts them because it reminds people that McCain and Palin aren't really fiscal conservatives. It's a counterexample to McCain's perceived strength of being a reformer and someone who will rein in spending. He won't. His pick of Palin proves it.

      We should extend that to remark that earmarks are a distraction. The total amount of earmarks is something like (this was quoted in another diary) .6% of the federal budget. The defense budget, without war operations, is about 18%. McCain doesn't even know where the pork is! He doesn't know anything about money! Is he going to be another snakebit President with the reverse-Midas touch?

      Palin is a distraction intended to keep us from attacking McCain. We can do double duty by using her to attack him. We can use all this effort that went into evaluating her to do just that.

  •  What you said /nt (1+ / 0-)
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    "The world is a mess and I just need to rule it." -- Dr. Horrible

    by BobzCat on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:25:14 AM PDT

  •  Palin Diaries (2+ / 0-)
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    This pep-talk is now #2 on the REC list.

    A brilliant diary about an anti- Palin protest is #1.  

    We do not need to stop Palin diaries.  Some of them are very good.  Palin is an important issue in the campaign.  God forbid, she could be President if we fail.

    We need to stop the bad Palin diaries:  the poorly written ones, the repetative ones, the link and clip diaries that are making their umpteenth appearance.  When we do an anti-Palin diary, it needs to be fresh and informative.  Above all, it needs to link back to John McCain and how picking her is further proof that he is unfit to lead.

    Palin is very much on people's minds.  We need to talk about our own issues, sure.  But we also need to key into what people are already talking about and sway that conversation.

    I, and apparently several other kossacks, want well-written Palin diaries.  We just don't want all Palin, all the time.  For proof, just check the REC list.

    I mean it's like these guys take pride in ignorance! It's like they like being ignorant.

    by math monkey on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:27:38 AM PDT

    •  #1 not about S.P. - about AK rally (1+ / 0-)
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      About great home made sign. About fighting back on the street. About Alaska women making creative good-humored signs and kickin butt.

      John McCain has decided he'd rather lose his integrity than lose an election. - Obama campaign

      by mrobinson on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:33:02 AM PDT

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      •  I think your parsing, but (0+ / 0-)

        You might be operating under a different definition of what a Palin diary is than I am.  I see three Palin diaries on the REC list:  the one I mentioned, the SNL skit, and the Times/Post article.  

        I need to know your definition before I can decide whether I agree or disagree.  Under the definition I intuitively came up with, I would have to disagree.

        I mean it's like these guys take pride in ignorance! It's like they like being ignorant.

        by math monkey on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:58:12 AM PDT

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  •  Promote this to the front page, please! (1+ / 0-)
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    This is the right message we should be featuring.


    Tis a fearful thing to love that what death may touch or time may change.

    by walkingdeer on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:35:58 AM PDT

  •  Yes! Write letters to the editor (1+ / 0-)
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    Great diary. Reminds me of Lakoff - the more we say Palin, this that and the other thing, the more we reinforce her.

    Lets talk about Obama and the message again.

    Right on Jeffrey, thanks for this reminder.

  •  It's the economy, stupid. (1+ / 0-)
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    Are you better off now that you were eight years ago?  Will John MCain make your life better?  The lives of your fellow Americans (top 1/2 of top 1% excluded) better?  Who gives a sh*t about Sarah Palin; she's a puppet who will do what she's told when she's told.  Enough about her already. Attacking her only makes it look as if we have nothing to say about John McCain -- and please don't give me the "he chose her so it's a reflection on his judgment."  Point made, move on. It pales in (pun intended) comparison to his judgment on just about every other issue. Donate. Canvass. Call. Talk about real issues.  It'll take your mind off what's her name.

  •  thank you (2+ / 0-)
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    I honestly think that more than anything else the Rovians have done they silenced our voices when they started sneering at celebrity and big crowds and "Obama Nation."  It is as though from then on many of us were self-conscious;  struggling for the right ground.  

    We had the right ground. Shoulder to shoulder. Grassroots. Inspired. Optimistic. Hopeful. Ideas. Marching in the Fierce Urgency of Now.  Picking up a mantle that was lost long ago for social justice for average people.  The togetherness of fighting with one cause.  They attacked that as though it was for naive lost in the 60s children or celebrity hounds.

    No THEY are the ones who are simplistic followers of celebrity politics and lying doctrines.  We can afford some hope.  We can afford some idealism.  They are bankrupt of both and have nothing to offer but the cynicism of power for power's sake. They are about fear.

    We gotta rise up in every way we can and roar the message of taking back this nation before we lose this democracy.  This is serious.  Let them scoff at the saying "we are the ones we have been waiting for" but they scoff at most truth so who cares?

  •  Great diary (1+ / 0-)
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    Rec it up and follow the advice!

    First write the anti-Palin diary. Then crumple it up and replace it with a diary about something positive Obama or Biden has done today!

  •  (Slap in the face) Thanks. We needed that. (1+ / 0-)
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    I'm Ron Shepston and I'm not done yet. There's much left to accomplish.

    by CanYouBeAngryAndStillDream on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:51:15 AM PDT

  •  Amazing diary! (1+ / 0-)
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    I hope you will keep reposting it. It should have a permanent position at the top of the rec list, like the tracking poll now topping the front page. On one side the ephemeral fever chart, on the other side the permanent base-line reminder, the mission statement.

    "Your point. Their village." --Zhivago to Strelnikov

    by ailanthus on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 10:53:54 AM PDT

  •  I agree totally with four out of five (2+ / 0-)
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    points. The one i disagree with is the Stop the Palin diaries.

    I am not afraid of Palin being Vice President, I am scared witless about Palin being PRESIDENT.

    I totally believe that is the game plan. Call me paranoid if you wish, maybe i am but I am not taking any chances.  If you think they are out to get you by any means necessary they are.

    There are a dozen probable scenarios from McCain dying in office, becoming disabled in office, resigning in office for health reasons and on and on.

    I completely feel in my gut that Palin is a Trojan Horse , some like to call it Moose, but I am taking this possibility seriously  By focusing on Palin's complete inadequacy and fitness for the job by focusing on McCain's lack of judgement in choosing her and pointing out that she is being trained in an intensive crash course by the same neocons he used to disdain, is not helping McCain, it is pointing out that he is being used by the same people who brought us the marionette on a stick George W Bush.

    Still, I gues 4 out 5 ain't bad.  But me and my womenfriends are continuing and ratcheting up the pressure to make as much of a mocekrry of her as she is a mockery of the system.

    McCain created this situation, lay the blame firmly where it belongs. On McCain.  Irrefutable proof that it is Party first, Country last.  Sorry.

    •  Well, it's McCain's judgment that should be (3+ / 0-)
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      questioned, more than attacking his symbol.

      Mocking her, and attacking her is exactly what Rove wants you to do: it helps to energize the base of support they have. Palin may sound tough, but Rove counts upon false sexist chivalry and faux outrage to power her celebrity status. Deny them their faux outrage by stopping the mocking.

      By questioning McCain's judgment in selecting her, you accomplish the greater task at hand.

      John McCain would rather lose his integrity than lose this election.

      by shpilk on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:05:48 AM PDT

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      •  that is what I thought I was advocating? (1+ / 0-)
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        I guess I did not make myself clear enough.  I believe that it is McCain's judgement in picking Palin is a theme that is the most appropriate attack.

        My circle of friends and myself feel we are energising our own base, which in my world extends way beyond the posters at DK, by pointing out Palin's deficiencies.

        Whenever i post a copmment expressing my personal feelings or activist exertions i am assuming that in most people's lives there is life beyond this website.  I also believe that stopping this train dead in its tracks is exactly what will achieve the greater task.

        That of electing a Democrat to the White House, and to all other vehicles of power in our system, local, state and national.  That is the goal of me and my friends and colleagues.

        Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

  •  It's a beautiful thing you have written. (1+ / 0-)
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    Thanks Jeffery.

    Agree 100%. Issues, and the intellect to analyze and deal with the serious issues we have in front us is the whole ball of wax.

    Obama and Biden have the intellect.

    McCain's intellect seems limited to repeating GW Bush's tactical errors.

    John McCain would rather lose his integrity than lose this election.

    by shpilk on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:01:49 AM PDT

  •  amen (2+ / 0-)
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    Control the message, win the debate; frame the issue, win the debate.

  •  Excellent (1+ / 0-)
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    Sadly, here at 2 PM Eastern, the only diary higher up on the rec list is about .... PALIN!


    Questioning another's patriotism is the refuge of the truly unpatriotic.

    by surfbird007 on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:02:53 AM PDT

  •  Biggest story of the election is missing here (6+ / 0-)

    Greenspan says the economy is in a crisis that happens only once in a century.  He is saying America can not handle McCain's economic policies.

    This is more important than anything else written on this site and everyone is missing this slam-dunk.

    The Sunday Talk Show's bubble heads also missed it.

    What the heck is it going to take for American's to wake up?

  •  Wise advice (3+ / 0-)

    From a master at framing the debate.

    Thank you much.

    Who will stop this war of lies? Keith Olbermann May 23rd, 2007

    by Ed in Montana on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:05:58 AM PDT

  •  Me loves some Frameshop & worked a phonebank too! (2+ / 0-)
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    I miss Frameshop!  It's been so great to see it back on "the air" again.  I also think I saw the distinguished Dr. Feldman on Bill Moyer's show...I think.  Was that you?  

    Anyway, I decided to stop worrying and poll watching and to get off my ass.  With support from my spouse who had to watch the kids, I actually volunteered for the first time.  I posted this elsewhere, but I thought it was worth posting again.  

    A new "Obama for President" office opened in my city yesterday.  I showed up for the grand opening.  They were calling Nevada in the back office, "shaking the trees" in Nevada, trying to find strong Obama supporters and leaners.  I was a bit too uncomfortable to call myself (I HATE getting calls at home myself); however, they needed help with office work and entering call results into the campaign's huge voter database.  I helped with that.  First time in my life I ever did anything like that.  I was so in awe of all the phone bankers--every age, ethnicity, gender, education level were there.  People were working very hard and there were some real tough calls.  I heard one phone banker had a person she called say that they would never vote for Obama and that they "...didn't call it the WHITE house for nothing!"  Just horrible.  Poor woman look pretty shook up.  

    "You underestimate Bush at your peril: it takes a brilliant man to feign utter and complete globe-spanning stupidity." Hunter of DailyKos

    by mrclean on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:10:21 AM PDT

  •  The debates should move the meters a good bit, (2+ / 0-)
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    and Palin's already being adequately skewered by most of the blogs we all likely read regularly.

    My larger concern is that that the McCain campaign will stay in this mode of serial lying just long enough for their 527s to get online and take over - at which point the McCain folks will go back on the "honor" kick by [cough] "disavowing  these independent groups - over which we have no control - for attacking the integrity of the Senator from Illinois" (or some such horse shit).

    I expect to hear "Muslim" and see a "terrorist fist jab" then a passage or two from ol' Jeremiah and maybe one from Aunt Jemima and then Tucker Bounds will crawl out from under his rock and play the "McCain = Honor + POW + Can't Even Type An Email So Leave Him Alone" crap.  Again.  And Again.  And Again.  Lipstick!!!!!!!

    McCain's setting up the lob, the 527s will start spiking the ball right around the 2 minute warning.  Same as it ever was.

    But that doesn't mean I'm not incredibly optimistic :)

    "McCain/Palin - Experience We Should Pound On!"

    by here4tehbeer on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:11:35 AM PDT

  •  Very inspiring, Jeffrey. (1+ / 0-)
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    See, I've changed my sig.

  •  Focus on McCain (2+ / 0-)
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    Palin is an accessory.
    She's the lipstick.

  •  Optimism and the Underdog (3+ / 0-)
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    This is a great message for this community. The McCain campaign is selling fear and the place their message seems to be having the greatest impact is here in the heart of the progressive community.

    We may look back at this past couple weeks as an important step in the campaign: knocked down a few points, but staying on message and getting back up.

    Ultimately, most Americans are looking for an optimistic solution to the horrible problems Republicans have been creating. And everybody knows that Americans like an underdog if they show a commitment to fighting hard. So better to take a hit now, fight back with our positive message and get back on track for victory in November.

    •  IAWTP. (0+ / 0-)

      You know, it's surprising to me now that I think about it that the tech-industry term "FUD" (for "Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt") isn't more widespread here, from what I can tell.  There's even a Wikipedia article about it:

      The wikipedia article--"Fear, uncertainty and doubt"

      This is what's been happening for the last few decades (since about 1975, I'd say) to liberals, and too many of us don't seem to realize that IT'S ALL A MIND GAME.  

      (I have a friend who's an Air Force veteran--good guy, even if he's a Republican.  ;-)  He told me boot camp works the same way, and once you realize that it actually becomes kind of funny in a strange way.  I'm not sure I could agree with him about that last part, but I think his main point stands.)

      So whenever you see something that looks like it was designed to feed pessimism on our part, just think, "This is just FUD!" and put it aside.

      The '60s were simply an attempt to get the 21st Century started early....Well, what are we waiting for? There's no deadline on a dream!

      by Panurge on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 01:46:31 PM PDT

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  •  Thanks so much, Jeffrey. (1+ / 0-)
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    I have a list of friends to whom I've been sending out emails several times a week in the last two weeks, just trying to talk them down off the ceiling. That list has been growing, too.

    It can be disheartening when a particularly nervous one e-mails me something like, "Did you see today? OMG, McCain's ahead, we're all gonna die!" And then e-mails me something else just as panicky two hours later. I never signed up to be a therapist for Democrats! But I find that writing to them calms my own worries.

    You've given me the ammo I need to keep coming back at them with reassurance. This diary is so stolen!

    The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

    by sidnora on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:17:36 AM PDT

  •  I believe in appealing to people's... (4+ / 0-)

    ...basic patriotism, honor and decency.

    I think an awful lot of people are frightened, worried, even ashamed of what is happening and has happened in this country over the past eight years...but are afraid to vote for a change.  They just vote for the status quo and hope it will get better.

    So I try and tap into that inner fear that they might not be quite ready to acknowledge or act upon.

    The Republican culture wars are still trying to undo the 1960s and 1970s....but I try and get people to think about how what has gone wrong today is really about the culture of greed and cronyism under the Republicans.

    My key phrase is how I don't want to be played for a fool anymore.

    I try and reaffirm to them an acknowledgment that this  is a good country...but...

    Then I talk about how I'm  tired of being played for a fool.  The Republicans talk all about patriotism and honor and hard work and responsibility, but they only say these things to get votes.

    I don't want to be played for a fool anymore.  Look at what they've done to our economy, to our military.  Look how they've squandered our respect in the world.  Look what they've done to our jobs.  Look what they've done to thee environment.

    All in the name of helping the rich get richer and the cronies get cozier.

    I'm tired for a fool.  They make speeches about how much they care about this country, but they don't really.  They only care about themselves.

    I'm tired of being played for a fool by the Republicans.

    And I talk some about Obama's ideas, his intentions, and yes, his community organizing, the fact that he has actually lived up to what he says he believes in.

    We need to nudge people towards truly connecting the unease they feel with what the Republicans have done.

    Time for Another Donation to Barack Obama and to a progressive supporting cast in Congress.

    by DebtorsPrison on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:19:39 AM PDT

  •  I'd like to see absolutely NO diaries (1+ / 0-)
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    with either "McCain" or "Palin" in the title.  Let's just stop this, please. Every time I hit "diaries" button on the right, there are 9/10 diaries with one of these two names on it.  JUST STOP.  

    We are reclaiming the integrity of American Democracy -- Al Gore, Netroots Nation '08

    by cityvitalsigns on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:19:46 AM PDT

  •  Let's Consoloidate Our Narative (1+ / 0-)
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    Let's stop the Death by a thousand cuts startaegy against McCain and lets hack off his limbs instead.

    We need to not be so disjointed, let's stick with the evolving narrative that McCain and Palin ar LIARS....just like the last 8 years of Bush.

    Do w want another PResdient who won't be honest with us?

    Let's stick to the narrative.

    They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

    by Gangster Octopus on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:24:51 AM PDT

  •  how uterly stupid (1+ / 0-)
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    The reason we lose elections ( I should no - I work them year in and year out - not a johnny come lately) is because we don't call a LIAR - A LIAR - WE DON'T SAY THEY ARE UNETHICAL -

    We say - we politely disagree... blah blah - we have a vision - blah blah blah..

    While I totally agree with Obama's visions.  THE PEOPLE IN AMERICA DONT VOTE BECAUSE OF THAT - hence the Ron Reagans, the George Bush's


    OKAY - All the "vision" talk is not going to get people vote for you - have you not learned one thing after all of these years.... Kerry, Gore, Dukakis come on?

    Just look @ Clinton - he had sex affair after sex affair and the people voted for him becuase

    Takin it to the streets....Doobie Brothers

    by totallynext on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:25:18 AM PDT

    •  You're totally misunderstanding. (0+ / 0-)

      It appears to have something to do with a certain dualism on your part.

      Besides, Kerry, Gore, and Dukakis were considered deficient on "the vision thing".   What we mean by "vision" is an integral part of the emotional engagement you appear to be talking about.  

      Once we've "fought back", then what?  Well, then we need to activate our frame instead of letting theirs go unchallenged.  What is so hard about this?

      (I'm supposing this isn't a troll here--trolls usually don't leave posts incomplete.)

      The '60s were simply an attempt to get the 21st Century started early....Well, what are we waiting for? There's no deadline on a dream!

      by Panurge on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 01:56:31 PM PDT

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  •  Karl Rove admits that McCain went too far (1+ / 0-)
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    Read this post and watched the video

    McCain   may have  gone over the brink with his  bullshit

    Under certain circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer. Mark Twain

    by Felix Klein on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:31:04 AM PDT

  •  The NYT has been on fire this week (1+ / 0-)
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    Almost every single op-ed has been scathing to McCain/Palin this past week. Read Frank Rich! I think he is right. We have to attack Palin. She is scary even to old school Republicans.
    I don't know what percentage of pro-Mccain supporters will change their mind and vote for Obama. My suspicion is that race is the key factor. However the Obama campaign can tear down the Palin/whathisface ticket so much those people will just not vote.

  •  Remind people Obama right on Iraq. McCain wrong. (1+ / 0-)
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    A lunch room conversation how Obama was not "experienced" and McCain was a war hero and did Obama call Palin a "pig" all the "small issues" the media GOP and the media promote vs. the issues.

    I said I was voting for Obama because he got Iraq right and McCain got Iraq wrong which brought the conversation back to big issues, especially Iraq. Changed the tone of the conversation since our place is like most places and 70% of people think Iraq was a mistake and Bush is an idiot.

    Obama campaign needs to do with the  same thing. Get the conversation back to Iraq, Obama's good judgment, McCain's bad judgment, McCain's age, health, emotional instability and bad judgment on national security, health care, immigration, women's rights.

  •  Palin Pandemonium! Sorry, if you think we should (3+ / 0-)
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    not be fighting this tooth and nail we, you and I, are not on the same frame page. Sorry. As a Brit expat i think mockery and satire and demeaning is a fine way to fight. After all that is exactly HOW the Repugs do it. Why do we as Democrats keep on insisting it doesn't work?

    Is that not what Karl Roive is counting on?

    How many elections have we won lately.?

    In the end everyone should be doing what they feel is most effective, because none of know what works and doesn't work.

  •  Great diary. Greatest most useful in ages in fact (1+ / 0-)
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    The voters to be reached now do not like either Obama or McCain. Palin may have pushed them one way or the other but obviously, if that's the case, either way, that vote is not firm and so is a problem, an opportunity target.

    Who are these undecideds/swing voters in my sphere? I'm not in the trenches on the streets or the phones but I (experienced public speaker) speak continuously throughout my day. For various reasons, my audience includes many 20s-40s aged Christians, Marines and military families, working and professional class men and women, retired voters, and retail workers...their issues are a consistent, short, crisp, clear list.

    So, I wanted to focus on the music and not the notes...My riff attempts to encompass these issues - not with facts but with understanding. I eliminate any reference to base progressive issues and focus on the big picture. For me, to take advantage of each interaction, I had to have a prepared script. So I have my 3 graphs I can say over and over and so far so good.  I have never used anything from the rec list.

    Hey, Jeffrey, optimism and encouragement is what everyone needs. Thanks.

    "This is a fight for the future. And it's a fight we must win...Obama is my candidate. And he must be our President." Hillary Clinton, DNC, August 26, 2008

    by kck on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:51:41 AM PDT

  •  Palin is not qualified (0+ / 0-)

    The whole point about Palin is that she is not qualified to lead this country. And McCain chose her to succeed him. This raises questions about his judgement. We need to keep raising doubts about Palin.

  •  fluff comment (0+ / 0-)

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    You think that's air they're breathing?

    before I even read the whole thing.

  •  I agree with this diary! Here's why: (0+ / 0-)

    One tactic (among many , of course) that the rethugs use is to try to level the field of respect.  This a cynical attempt to make prospective ( probably low information voters) conclude that there is really not much difference between the candidates. eg: They both lie about their records, what they'll do and especially, about what the other guy is like and likely to do.  I can see two possible outcomes on the targeted voter:

    1. he/she is turned off, thinking all is jaded and corrupt and DOES NOT VOTE, or 2)they fall back on their lowest source of action and vote from the gut.  The rethugs have that alley all set with fear and racism traps and the deal is done.

    By keeping on message and away from attacks that tend to level the field, (and of course getting out a massive new (and non-cynical) vote we can BEAT THESE THUGS.  Enough of the jib-jab!

    The reward for conformity was that everyone liked you except yourself. - Rita Mae Brown

    by Wyote on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:55:05 AM PDT

    •  I say leave their personal lives out of it but (0+ / 0-)

      focus on their records. There's still plenty of ammo to attack them without making the attacks personal. If the Republicans start whining about being unfairly maligned, point out the slimy personal attacks they've made against Obama in the past.

      Do I need to tell you what the fuck you can do with an aluminum tube? ALUMINUM!

      by tojojo on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 01:06:26 PM PDT

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  •  Re: Repetition (1+ / 0-)
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    Two things I'd like to hear from Obama and surrogates over and over and over...



    "A liberal is a conservative who's been hugged." ;o)

    by SteelMaggie13 on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 11:55:12 AM PDT

  •  Small town blog entry: (0+ / 0-)

    Obama Campaign:

    Let’s talk about the issues. Let’s talk about education.

    McCain Campaign:

    Barack Obama. He wants to teach sexual positions to kindergarteners. [Montage: five-year-olds looking confused, scared, being forced to eat oysters on the half-shell.] Wrong for America. Wrong for K through 12.


    Obama Campaign:

    Let’s talk about the issues. Let’s talk eight years of failed economic policies.

    McCain Campaign:

    Barack Obama. He called Sarah Palin a pig. He said she smelled like old fish. Can we afford to have an insult-humor president? [Montage: Don Rickles, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog, cartoon drawing of pig with stink lines coming off it.] Barack Obama. Wrong for America. Wrong for insult comedy. Wrong for animals.


    Obama Campaign:

    Let’s talk about the issues. Sigh Let’s talk about health care.

    McCain Campaign:

    Barack Obama. He called Sarah Palin a pig who smelled like old fish and then claimed it was a metaphor. Can we afford to have a president who is confused about animals and uses rhetorical tropes? [Montage: Roland Barthes, John-Paul Sartre, Michel Foucault, cartoon drawing of a pig with stink lines coming off it and looking confused, scared.] Barack Obama. Wrong for America. Wrong for linguistics. Still wrong for hardworking animals.


    Obama Campaign:

    Let’s talk about the issues. Let’s talk about energy policy.

    McCain Campaign:

    Barack Obama. He airlifted a strike-force of ravenous lawyers into Alaska just to dig through Sarah Palin’s garbage. [Montage: coffee grounds, tampon wrappers, a half-eaten Ding Dong.] Now he wants those wolf-lawyers to stay there and eat any patriotic oil company executives who want to solve our energy problems. [Montage: patriotic oil company executives looking confused, scared, with stink lines coming off them.] Barack Obama. Wrong for Alaska. Wrong for trash. And he’s kind of weird looking, too. There, we said it.

    Speaks for itself, in so many ways.  Thanks, Hopeful!

    "No way, no how, no McCain." Hillary Clinton

    by keeplaughing on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:07:08 PM PDT

  •  Sorry, (5+ / 0-)

    I'm with Kos on this:

    I'm not about to revert to writing puff pieces about Obama thinking that his magic "new politics" bullshit will carry us to victory. He may or may not believe that crap, but I don't. We're going to win this thing the way campaigns are won -- by playing hardball. Politics is a blood sport. Republicans understand this and never flinch from flinging the shit. We won't win until we learn to fight back in kind. And I'm more than happy to get down in the mud with our friends on the Right so Obama doesn't have to.

    Recent history vindicates the "tough and aggressive" path. We went toe to toe against Rove and his machine in 2006, and our math beat his. I have no doubt we're in for a two-peat this year, and it'll happen because we won't back off from exposing the GOP for the den of lies and corruption it has become.

    So forget about some ban on the Palin posts. It ain't gonna happen. We can and must all work our hearts out for Obama but there are various ways to do that. The corporate media has noticed the absence of truth coming from both McSame and Palin and we need to keep pushing the liar meme when it's handed to us on a silver platter like this. Frankly, I think the focus on Palin's phoniness that we've seen in the blogosphere has helped lead the coporate media to at least start to do their job of informing the public what she and McSame are really like. I have no problem with Obama staying above the fray, but like Markos, I'm perfectly happy to get down in the muck with the Rethugs.

    •  Playing hardball is good; falling into Republican (4+ / 0-)
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      traps, bad.

      I think we're falling into a Repub trap when we focus on the photogenic, charming performer Palin.  She's looking like a beautiful victim to her base. The more we pile on, the more we fire up the fundy army of GOTV soldiers.

      McCain is a "loser" while Palin has star appeal.  He wants the media to focus on her so we forget about his Bushlike policies.  There isn't time to kill the Palin light; we need to sidline it.

      Just my opinion, but I liked your comment and rec'd it.  I definitely think you're right that the rest of us out here need to do the dirty work a la Rush, Hannity, etc.  

      "No way, no how, no McCain." Hillary Clinton

      by keeplaughing on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:16:34 PM PDT

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      •  The GOP base is beyond our control... (2+ / 0-)
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        I'm more concerned about those undecideds that might just accept the desperate Mcsame/Plain meme that they represent change as much as Obama does. The key is that both McSame and Palin are lying through their teeth on her record and his record and we really have to get the general voters to see that they are both unrepentant liars. They simply can't be trusted. And, I thank our lucky stars that their lies are so breathtakingly clear and obvious. We must take advantage of that even if Obama stays above the fray - i.e. not directly calling them liars.

        •  If firing up the base wasn't a key ingredient, (2+ / 0-)
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          then campaigns would not work so hard to do it.  

          Let's not help the Republicans fire up their base.  (They work hard to deflate the enthusiasm of our base, and they usually succeed.)

          I agree that it's our job to point out that the Republican team are liars.  

          "No way, no how, no McCain." Hillary Clinton

          by keeplaughing on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:41:45 PM PDT

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    •  Seconded. Why we can't walk and chew gum? (2+ / 0-)
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      I won't get into the many reasons why Palin-bashing should be in season right now. I'll just stick to the suggestion that attacking Palin directly, like attacking McCain directly, or advocating for Obama directly, plays an important part in defeating the GOP ticket.  

      It's possible that the NYT and WaPo wouldn't be putting out anti-Palin stories today if bloggers hadn't promptly jumped on the many disturbing aspects of Palin's record early on.

      There's a deeply disturbing undertone to this diary. It seems less about rallying the troops with inspiring frames and more about a fearful or self-important limiting of public dialog even when it's all on the same side of the real debate.  

      "Message discipline" matters for the Obama campaign proper. Here, anything and everything that makes McPal look bad and Barack and Joe look good should be fair game.

      If you prefer one approach over another, let your rec do the talking.  And may the best diaries win.
      (Personally I prefer the Alaska Women Against Palin Rally to this one, but maybe that's just me.)

      •  Exactly! (1+ / 0-)
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        Why we can't walk and chew gum?

        Those of us advocating getting into the muck are not demanding anyone else follow us. Indeed, most of us accept that Obama himself should remain mostly above the fray. But there is no gain to squelching the opinions of folks who believe Palin should be held accountable for her record and competence and not given a pass.

        Look, the vast majority of the voters whom we are trying to get to vote for Obama have no interest in counting the number of Palin diaries on Daily Kos. It matters not one whit to the efforts we all are making to get Obama elected. So if you don't like seeing so many Palin diaries, either ignore them or write a non-Palin diary yourself.

      •  HI-LARIOUS... (0+ / 0-)

        You are too funny and too arrogant.  The NY Times and Wa Po are following netroots leads... COME ON!!!!!

  •  ? (0+ / 0-)

    "We are leaders of a national conversation that sets a tone,  drives language into the media, and pushes our elected officials."



    Obama doesn't want our help.

    There's something attractive about invincible ignorance... for the first 5 seconds.

    by MNPundit on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:11:59 PM PDT

  •  Let Me Repeat (1+ / 0-)
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    We have to hurt the Republicans. The way to hurt Republicans is to attack on an issue that splits them.

    Palin is useful to us for hurting Republicans because she is fiscally irresponsible. This is something that we must make potential Republican voters hear and see. Everything else about her is irrelevant, except as it relates to the purpose of hurting Republicans.

    And she is an example of McCain's bad judgment. This is the kind of executive you can expect with McCain: fiscally irresponsible, autocratic, ideological--exactly like the Bush Administration.

    I personally don't care what Obama's vision is if it doesn't hurt Republicans. It needs to divide them so that we can suppress their vote. Unless we do that, we will get a re-run of 2000 and 2004.

    Frankly, McCain can't solve real problems if he can't revive the economy and if he can't quickly end the war. The Bush Administration and multinational companies have already sucked all the available money out of the country. So, if you need to tie this in to an Obama vision to get on board, fine, there you go.

    We have to focus on winning. We won't win if we get bogged down in analysing every mistake Palin has made and how desperately unprepared she is for office. However, out of all those things there is one that matters, and that is her fiscal performance. It is one that should make fiscal conservatives take pause. Use it to divide the Republicans and defeat them.

    •  McCain's bad judgment(s) (1+ / 0-)
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      Palin is a great example of McCain's poor judgment. As her ignorance unfolds, McCain's choice for VP makes it clear that he thinks of himself first, and country last. It defeats his slogan. I think Palin's transgressions (and they are many, in such a short period!) can be used in an effective way, if we keep the focus on McShame, and not on her.

  •  Thanks But (0+ / 0-)

    What if one is writing a Palin diary that has zero to do with the idea of Palin as a scandal, and gives not a damn about her kids, her corruption and her general unsuitability for the office she is seeking, but instead is about the importance of understanding the power of Palin's nomination within the context of history if we are going to successfully combat it? (Because there is a historical context to this that I have not yet seen a diary about, although I could indeed have missed it, being in trial and all.)

    BTW yelling with overuse of all caps about how we should approach the matter of this general election and getting our candidate elected doesn't persuade me, particularly since the very idea of "framing" still has yet to be explained in a way that doesn't make clear to me that it is something more than "Men are from Mars" pop-psychology/pseudoscience.

  •  Rise above McCain-Palin. It's ALL Republicans! (1+ / 0-)
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    The whole Republican Party.

    They favor their own Country Club Big Business cronies at our expense.

    Democrats thrive on raising up everyone..........

    Media Reform Action Link

    by LNK on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:53:57 PM PDT

  •  Less Evacuate, More Hope (0+ / 0-)

    You are so totally right.  The cynic in some of us takes over at times.  It hasn't helped me that hurricane after hurricane slammed into this region where I am.

    Moving on with optimism, hope, tactical repetition and good sense.  Thank you for saying that.

    "We laugh because it hurts."

    by prestochango on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:58:24 PM PDT

  •  I beg to differ on one point (0+ / 0-)

    Repeating "Palin = Liar, Palin = Liar, Palin = Liar" isn't building her up at all. I'm not sure how you can interpret it that way. The only danger I see is saying so without also providing facts that prove this assertion.

    That being said, it would be nice to focus the election back on the issues, but I say let's not kick a gift horse in the mouth--if Republicans try to build Palin up as Maverick Jr., don't be afraid to deliver a smackdown of the facts.

    Do I need to tell you what the fuck you can do with an aluminum tube? ALUMINUM!

    by tojojo on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 12:59:17 PM PDT

  •  If you don't think Palin needs to be brought down (0+ / 0-)

    check out this.

  •  there are different teams in a war (0+ / 0-)

    And this herd of cats will not go in lockstep

    If for instance a Palin story can get traction here, then great.

    tangled up in blue since 1968

    by bob zimway on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 01:40:51 PM PDT

  •  Agree, though also a question on framing (0+ / 0-)

    I agree that the Palin phenom is getting old, ESPECIALLY here in the netroots.  It's already taking hold in the MSM, and that should be enough to do a fair amount of the necessary rebranding.

    But the reason I was behind Obama back in 2007 was HIS message.  And although he's stuck to that message, it's really fallen out of the public discourse here and elsewhere.  I want to feel like I have a government I can believe in.  And I think a lot of other people do, too, so I'd love to see more of that discourse.

    One thing that constantly surprises me, though (and here's my question) is why no one ever brings up the fact that Democrats are really the only party standing up for the principles our country was founded on.  Maybe those principles have become passe over the years, but they still mean a lot to me.  And the most telling issue, the one I'm going to be working into a guest editorial column submission (and diary entry) later this week, is equality.

    There are two ways to think about equality: equality of opportunity and equality of outcome.  Outcome equality is, basically, communism - probably why the courts have traditionally ruled that equality in the US means equality of opportunity.  But the party that believes in using the government to give everyone a fair shake, to make education affordable and accessible for all people at all levels, is very much the democratic party.

    I'm just curious why I've never heard a politician call us back to the ideals our nation was founded on.  For all the swearing to uphold the constitution, you'd hope politicians would consider those ideals more than a footnote to history...

  •  This comes from a friend: (0+ / 0-)

    I thought I'd post it here.  I wrote to her post-Palin nomination.  Let's see if we can follow the advice...

    "It's unfortunate that this election process has, again, become acrimonious.  Interesting that you send this e-mail now.  I have just recently received a flood of anti-Palin e-mails from a group of women called "Women Say No to Palin" and there's a firey debate taking place there.  

    Here's my thoughts/observations on that:  We know that we create our reality with our thoughts and feelings right?  And that the universe responds to our thoughts and feelings accordingly.  It doesn't know the difference between what you want and what you don't want, only what you are sending.  All the e-mails from this group, pro or con, besides being bitter and angry (sending that energy out) mention that woman's name hundreds of times.  So, what are we sending out to the universe?  Does the universe know that we don't want her?  No, it only knows that we continue to put her name out there!  What do you think the result will be?  

    So, we need to send out to the universe what we DO want!  I don't necessarily mean, sending out that we want Obama to win.  At the end of the day, isn't whatever is for the best and highest good for this country and, therefore, for the planet, what we want?   So, perhaps it is best to turn off the news for a while.  Then in your meditations, visualize and feel this country being bathed in pure light and love, send this pure light and love to all voters and to the candidates.  Visualize them releasing their egos and connecting with their higher selves; making their choices for the highest good.  FEEL the peace and serenity, joy and prosperity that will result.......send that energy out to the Universe!"

  •  Jeffery- (0+ / 0-)

    I'm not sure how you make a buck, but academia and presidential rhetoric is calling you buddy. That was one of my favorite college classes and to this day left a mark on me.

    Listen up folks, good advice. Rock on J.

  •  Remember when pundits were saying McCain had (1+ / 0-)
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    turned Obama's greatest strength --- the rallies and speeches --- into a liability with the celebrity ads?  Well, why not return the favor for McCain.  We all know what he perceives his greatest strength is --- his POW days.  We heard at the RNC all about how McCain put country first  during those trying times because of his great nobility, HIS HONOR.  Now some here have told Obama to stop saying, as he does in every speech, how he honors McCain's service to his country.  Well why not have Obama say that but then turn the compliment into a knife and bury it deep into McCain:  "But over the course of the past few months, that honor that McCain exhibited has given way to lies and dishonesty not only about how he and his campaign have talked about me, but him lying to you the American people.  In every one of those dishonest ads he has put out there --- whether it is about my tax cuts or my education policies --- he has lied to you.  He says he has approved these messages that he knows are false.  Whatever honor Senator McCain may have once had is gone.  He'll now saying anything, even lying to you the American people to get elected.  He'd rather lose his honor, than lose a campaign.  That is not putting your country first, that is called putting yourself first.  Our campaign is different ....."  At which point Obama could pivot and talk about the problems facing America and his plans to solve it, much in line with his new speech he debuted yesterday.

    Well what do you think?

    •  Hear Hear (0+ / 0-)

      As much as we dislike Rove, his main point was to go for the opponents greatest strength.

      John McCain's greatest strength is the respect and perception of strength afforded him because of his imprisonment.

      We need to go after not only his honor, but also his readiness to be commander in chief.  

      We need to remind people of his temper, his age, his flippancy with "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran," and his support of a trillion dollar sinkhole in Iraq.

      Our country and our future are not safe with John McCain as president.

  •  Optimism/Pessimism (0+ / 0-)

    There was a good study of actors, some of whom have great pessimism, some great optimism, before stepping out on the stage. In the study, they taught the pessimists to be optimists. Their performances were much worse. Same thing when they taught the optimists to be pessimists.

    The great lesson from this: Each of us has our own natural style. And for each of us, that's the style that works best. So in our present context, if you're a pessimist, stick with it. If you're an optimist, stick with it. But just worry about yourself. Don't tell the pessimists to be optimists instead. It will just hurt their game.

    Me, I'm an optimist in this battle. But that's partly because I see that the people who work best from pessimism are going as full at it as those of us on the other end of that spectrum. (Feldman, you're decent on framing. But please study some more psychology. Just saying.)

  •  Totally agree we should forget about Palin (0+ / 0-)

    Forget about Palin.  Making her the subject of conversation only wastes time and plays into the hands of the Republicans. Let her twist in the wind.  The msm and her own kookiness will take care of her.  

    Obama is running against John McCain, not Sarah Palin. I totally agree that we need to talk about Obama's vision for the future of this country.  The only thing I don't agree with as far as the optimism thing is that we also need to talk about the  alternative, i.e. what a McCain administration would mean (more years of pouring blood and treasure into Iraq, strategic blindness elsewhere,  continuing destruction of the middle class, continuing reliance on "drill baby drill", continuing decline of America).  We badly need to debunk the myth of McCain the maverick.  Keep repeating "more of the same, more of the same, more of the same".

  •  GOP always controls drumbeat- now, it's our turn! (0+ / 0-)

    Rove, et al, have always been good at doing that repetition thing.  So important for rest of us to control tempo of message.  Great stuff!

  •  FAIL (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    BrooklynBoy, IL dac

    You think McCain supporters will respond to facts?  You think that's air they're breathing?

    That's your premise?

    These types of "McCain supporters" aren't McCain supporters, they're Palin supporters.

    Yes, facts don't matter to them. But no, their vote is not up for grabs.

    The votes that ARE up for grabs are amongst people that care about the economy and who still haven't yet been exposed to the dirt on Palin.

    That's a two pronged attack. Three if you count the necessary work we need to be doing to tie McCain to Bush and Palin.

    I don't buy your argument, because I think you're leaving off a key part of our strategy.

    We need to do many of the things you talk about, but we also need to go on as the front pagers and Kos  himself have been... by attacking Palin on her weaknesses, which is everything.

  •  "Hope", "change" and issues will not defeat (7+ / 0-)

    smears, lies, and culture war wedge memes about apple pie, hockey moms and small town America. Not by themselves at least. What worked in the primaries will not work in the general election. Obama needs to appeal to undecideds and other swing voters in the political center--i.e. people who are still open to voting for McCain and thus likely open to being swayed by these smears, lies and culture war wedge memes, as much as they are by "hope", "change" and laundry list policy items.

    These are people who might like what Obama has to say about bipartisanship (even though it's mostly BS), be inspired by his message of hope and change, or favor his policies. But they're also politically unsophisticated low-information types who tend to be swayed by slick and manipulative memes that appeal to their cultural identification, that tends to pull them in the opposite direction. To them, it's tax cuts vs. who reminds them more of their dad or seems more "patriotic" and even "American".

    But it's also about who's more honest, has shown better judgement, understands the issues better, etc. And these swing points are determined as much by how effectively a candidate sells themselves as by how much they effectively take down their opponent. Positive campaigning that emphasizes what a candidate is about, and how this relates to voters, is important and effective, but doesn't win election by itself. To win, candidates MUST also engage in negative campaigning that attacks the other side and their qualification to hold office, in terms of issues AND character.

    So sorry, but going 100% positive ain't gonna win this for Obama. Going positive AND going negative will. It's just as important for Obama and his supporters to sing his praises, as it is for him and us to tear down McCain--and, yes, Palin--so long as it's based on substance, not innuendo or stupid personal attacks. When you are viciously attacked, as Obama has been, you don't ignore it, you don't merely defend yourself--you ATTACK the other side, period, immediately and vigorously. Otherwise voters, who might still "like" you, will lose respect for you. I agree that the focus must be on McCain, not Palin. But whoever we attack, we must attack them, relentlessly, on their weakest points--of which they have many. But issues and "hope" just aren't enough.

    To the GOP, change means doing a 360.

    by kovie on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 02:54:14 PM PDT

  •  Thanks Jeffrey! (0+ / 0-)

    That does help.

    I have felt confident, but still just a little twinge of anxiety has been growing.

    Let's get it done.

    Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth. -Franklin D. Roosevelt

    by SJLeonidas on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 02:54:52 PM PDT

  •  Dear Jeffrey and other pro-activists!: (0+ / 0-)

    Would you be willing to write up a list of, say, the top 5 or 10 compelling reasons voters should want to vote for Barack Obama?

    I've asked Obama-supporting friends to help canvass and phone bank with me, but they express anxiety over knowing how to make the case—they're afraid they might make mistakes or appear inept.

    Is there a flyer or list of talking points, complete with credible source citations, that nervous Obama supporters could refer to?  

    I'm not talking about a booklet or pages of info on each issue.  I'm talking about a ONE-PAGER that could accurately sum up what Obama is promising to do to tackle the biggest challenges our country (and the voters we approach) face?

  •  about the MSM (0+ / 0-)

    no one trusts them anymore cause they just spout whateverpartythey supportstalkingpoints

    if the MSM wants to regain the trust of the public.... they have been handed it by Karl Rove no less. They can gain that trust by being the refs they are supposed to be! Call fouls when they see them supported by the evidence... gee it couldn't be more easy could it?

    umm how do you add a signature?

    by bunkai on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 03:17:39 PM PDT

  •  God. I admit, I was PART of the problem (0+ / 0-)

    I hyped on Palin, played into their game. You know what, though, fuck all that. This election is TOO damn important to lose.

  •  watch Obama's convention speech again (0+ / 0-)

    and you will know what to do

  •  Missinformation (0+ / 0-)

    Your idea of a lean list of compelling reasons to vote for Obama is a good one.  Just make sure it
    has, as a talking point, CAN YOU TRUST A LIAR?
    The Republican campaign is fueled by fear and fury,the
    Democratic one by hope and optimism.  Just the simple word "hope" or "change" on a sticker or t-shirt immediately identifies the Democratic party.  It also makes people pause for a second to consider what they personally hope will change.

    By the same token, CAN YOU TRUST A LIAR? on a lawn sign or bumper, without reference to any political party, would make people pause for a moment as they
    consider the the answer to that simple question.  McCain and Palin, thanks to the media finally catching on to them, now own the word LIAR.  

  •  12 times you mentioned Sarah Palin (0+ / 0-)

    In your anti-Palin diary diary.
    I liked what Genine Garafallow(sp) said in response to Bill Mahr's reprimand.  If negative was bad, McCain wouldn't be enjoying a lead in the polls.
    Anti Palin attacks may harden the knuckle dragging right wing but the feeling that her lies may swing over naive undecided voters has many very nervous.  Obama said that "If you keep telling lies about me I'm going to have to start telling the truth about you." (I believe that came from Lincoln.)
    The right wing's favorite saying nowadays is that the left is really blowing it by focusing on Palin, while I feel her selection points out one of McCain's bigger flaws.

    by tRueffert on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 04:24:40 PM PDT

  •  SH*T! SH*t, Sh*t, sh*t. mutter, mutter. (0+ / 0-)

    Oh, you're right.  I just had to get it out of my system.

    I am just so freaking tired of having to remember that we're dealing with a bunch of  friggin' fear based adults who want to be children -- and they're turning to the people who don't give a real damn about them to save them!  Ugh.

    Just once, I'd like to be involved in an election against some fiscal conservative Republican adults.  You know, debate it out rationally based on the issues.

    Okay.  Back to the phones.  Count the pennies to donate some more.  Practive and repeat framing over and over and over and over.

    "McCain has been lying about Obama's tax plan, because McCain knows his plan doesn't help the middle class as much as Obama's does.  Obama's speicfic plans solve real problems for families.  Would you like to know how the tax plans compare?"

    Thanks. I think I'm getting over my Palintitus :)

    A country without a memory is a country of madmen. -- George Santayana

    by bkamr on Sun Sep 14, 2008 at 06:13:38 PM PDT

  •  Brilliant (0+ / 0-)

    Needed that.At my work we are a bunch of libs and it has been pretty cranky. Sac it up boys and girls and grow some or grab hillary's.  

  •  I move as a community to BAN palin diaries... (0+ / 0-)

    Let's do it. Free speech is good and all, but it's like being at a starbucks talking politics and there is a guy with a bullhorn outside exercising his right. NO MORE PALIN!

  •  daily kos call to arms (0+ / 0-)

    Could not agree more with the kos and its message on getting back in the game. We all of us have to pull and act as one. Hammer every blog and every news outlet with the truth about McCain and his no plan, but Bush's, for the future of our country. McCain has sold his soul for a shot at the presidency. He has misrepresented facts, told lie after lie after lie and lost any claim he ever had to common decency. It is our job to point out these  facts about McCain.Dismantle  him bit by bit. He was fifth from the bottom in his class at Annapolis. Without the intersession of his Admiral father he would be a retired Lieutenant Commander former deck officer on  a Destroyer Escort. He crashed five planes. His only shot at any sort of executive experience in the Navy came when he placed in squadron administrative position over the heads of a number of more qualified and ranking officers. He has had only one job, PR for a beer distributorship. He didn't  hold that job long. He shacked up with the owner's daughter, divorced his wife that stood by him during his Viet Nam imprisonment. Married the daughter and and her $100,000,000 fortune and was on his way. McCain has no idea how the average American lives. He really mustn't be President. Lobbyists for buddies, lobbyists for campaign officials.  If he gets elected he won't have to come to work or use a computer. His lobbyist buddies will take care of that.

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