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Alaska's investigation into whether Gov. Sarah Palin abused her power, a potentially damaging distraction for John McCain's presidential campaign, ran into intensified resistance Tuesday when the attorney general said state employees would refuse to honor subpoenas in the case.

For Republicans, government is no longer about law. It's about physics. Subpoena? Well, I'm not going unless you can actually drag me in there.

Hmm. It feels so familiar, too. If only this were happening on a national level instead of being isolated up in Alaska. Then we'd be paying attention to it! Hey, wait a minute...

But even if this weren't a direct parallel to the Bush/Cheney stonewalling of the U.S. Attorneys inquiry, we'd still be looking at another ridiculous case of Democrats bringing sporks to a gunfight. This is Florida 2000 for the Republicans. Remember when they were crying lying about Democrats airdropping lawyers into Alaska?

Also Tuesday, five Republican state lawmakers filed a lawsuit against an investigation they called "unlawful, biased, partial and partisan." None serves on the bipartisan Legislative Council that unanimously approved the inquiry. They want it pushed past the election or top Democrats removed from the probe.

Making clear the dispute has ramifications beyond Alaska, Liberty Legal Institute, a Texas-based legal advocacy group, was working on the lawsuit. The institute has taken on a variety of cases in defense of conservative Christian positions.


Of course.

And there's more:

A former top Justice Department prosecutor now working for John McCain's presidential campaign has been helping to direct an aggressive legal strategy aimed at shutting down a pre-election ethics investigation into Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

The growing role of Edward O'Callaghan, who until six weeks ago served as co-chief of the terrorism and national security unit of the U.S. attorney's office in New York, illustrates just how seriously the McCain campaign is taking the so-called "troopergate" inquiry into Palin's firing last summer of Walt Monegan, Alaska's Public Safety Commissioner.

But O'Callaghan (who resigned from the U.S. attorney's office at the end of July to join the McCain campaign) is doing more than just public relations when it comes to "troopergate."  He told NEWSWEEK that he and another McCain campaign lawyer (whom he declined to identify) are serving as legal "consultants" to Thomas Van Flein, the Anchorage lawyer who at state expense is representing Palin and her office in the inquiry. "We are advising Thomas Van Flein on this matter to the extent that it impacts on the national campaign," he said. "I'm helping out on legal strategy."

Same m.o. as always: accuse Democrats of doing what you're about to do, and hope no one notices.

In the meantime, where's your Democratic team, making sure people get the truth?

There is no Democratic team.

Florida 2000. No lessons learned.

Will this be the scene in some future Michael Moore film that sets Democratic faces burning with shame and embarrassment at their failure to act?

Gee, I hope we aren't headed for another "nice guy's finish" in this.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:45 AM PDT.

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Comment Preferences

  •  "government is no longer about law" (20+ / 0-)

    Mukasey made that overtly clear:

    "Not every wrong, or even every violation of the law, is a crime."

  •  Sarah Palin appointed Talis J. Colberg, saying (12+ / 0-)

    "Adding [him] to my team continues to demonstrate my commitment to fill the top posts of my administration with the best in the state." "He will bring a fresh perspective on all issues as legal advisor to the governor and other state officers. Colberg has a profound respect for the Constitution of the State of Alaska and its strict interpretation. He is an inherent believer in trust and transparency."


    Here we are now Entertain us I feel stupid and contagious

    by Scarce on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:47:08 AM PDT

  •  Not surprising (8+ / 0-)

    But methinks they protest too much.  What kind of info do they have on her?  

    I am curious to see those emails because it seems they are so hiding something.  Hopefully, justice will prevail but I doubt it when the Repubs are involved.

    War is Peace ~ Ignorance is Strength ~ Slavery is Freedom

    by lostinamerica2711 on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:47:10 AM PDT

    •  what they have.... (0+ / 0-)

      a good place for anyone to start to really understand troopergate is to listen to the recording of aide to Governor Palin, Frank Bailey's improper  February 29, 2008 call to Alaska State Trooper, Lieutenant Rodney Dial

      I believe that it was on the strength of that recording that the Alaskan State Legislative Judiciary Committee composed of 8 Republicans and 4 Democrats voted 12-0 to launch the investigation and fund it with up to $100,000.


    •  They have nothing on her (0+ / 0-)

      If the governor does it, it's not illegal.  

      More seriously, this economic meltdown has me worried about the future of our government.  America is more than ready, IMO, for a fascist dictator to take control, sweep away the corrupt, do-nothing congress, and tell everyone what to do.  Of course such a dictator will not call himself a dictator, he'll use a term like "The Decider," and the corporate media will craft a benevolent image for mass consumption.  

      I fear that if this were to happen, the American dictator wouldn't even have to bother much with martial law or suppressing any armed resistance, because Americans wouldn't give a fuck.  Bush/Cheney have already proved that the Bill of Rights can be revoked without political costs, and they've expanded executive powers far beyond constitutional limits without the slightest bit of public resistance.  The stage is set for a military hero like General Petraeus to "rescue" Americans from their failed government, something that actually may be reasonably argued as necessary if it comes to a senile McCain and a beauty queen VP attempting to "deregulate" an economic implosion.

      LOL, the reality is that an American tyrant could simply say (with blustering confidence) that he's restoring our government as the Founding Fathers originally intended, and 80% of Americans would assume it's true because they don't even know what the constitution is.  Just put a few blowhards on TeeVee to rejoice at the Great Restoration, and Americans would happily express their self-determination by voting for American Idol and exercising their freedom to consume whatever they please at Wal-Mart.

      "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

      by Subterranean on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 10:54:47 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  they need to start impeachment proceedings (25+ / 0-)

    against her immediately.

    The credibility of Alaskan government is at stake.

    Republicans are not a national party anymore. Read My Lips: One Spouse, One House.

    by jalapeno on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:47:12 AM PDT

  •  Shouldn't this just be devastating to them? (13+ / 0-)

    I thought independent voters were turned off by the "I am the state" powerplay crap...

    Maverick - a calf that has become separated from its mother. By convention, it can become the property of whichever lobbyist finds it first.

    by Minerva on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:47:32 AM PDT

  •  Chick Cheney. . . (20+ / 0-)

    Dulce bellum inexpertis [War is sweet only to those who have no experience of it].

    by Fatherflot on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:47:41 AM PDT

  •  Which of course ironically (6+ / 0-)

    The way our media works in these situations means that the MSM will push harder to figure out the truth since they like nothing more than exposing cover ups...

    "Polls are like crack, political activists know they're bad for them but they read them anyways."-Unknown

    by skywaker9 on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:47:52 AM PDT

  •  The rule of law: (9+ / 0-)

    I can still remember it.
    In much of the world, impunity is a dirty word. Now we have it here

    I could have been a soldier... I had got part of it learned; I knew more about retreating than the man that invented retreating. --Mark Twain

    by NogodsnomastersMary on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:48:01 AM PDT

  •  Hopefully Republicans in (8+ / 0-)

    Alaska will see what is going on here and help out.

    "For the love of god learn to think on your own" Me

    by givemhellHarryR on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:48:08 AM PDT

  •  Good (11+ / 0-)
    I hope McCain/Palin keep stonewalling this investigation - it seems to be ticking off people in Alaska, and the cover-up is only convincing people that Palin has something to hide.

    I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - Major General Smedley D. Butler, USMC

    by Marinesquire on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:48:16 AM PDT

  •  Colberg worked in Wasilla (4+ / 0-)

    From 1984 to 1985 Colberg was an associate attorney in the law firm Kopperud and Hefferan in Wasilla, Alaska.

    Before becoming AG, Colberg's main claim to fame was running the Alaska State Fair.

    From 1995 to 2001 he served as a Director of the Board as well as Secretary and President for the Alaska State Fair, Inc.

    Here we are now Entertain us I feel stupid and contagious

    by Scarce on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:48:18 AM PDT

    •  And her Agriculture head got the job (0+ / 0-)

      because she liked cows ...

      And the New York Times reported Sunday that as governor, Palin appointed a high school classmate, Franci Havemeister, to a $95,000-a-year job as head of the State Division of Agriculture. Havemeister "cited her childhood love of cows as a qualification for running the roughly $2 million agency," the Times reported, noting her as one of at least five schoolmates to whom Palin has given high-paying jobs in state government.

      -- Washington Post

      I'm saying, "thanks but no thanks to that Governor from Alaska."

      by Cyber Kat on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 10:00:10 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Even Cheney bothered to have some sort of (4+ / 0-)
    constitutional or national security bullshit ground for refusing to come out of the bunker.

    Here, it's just the fact that McCain 08 doesn't want voters to know.

    Noticed how McCain reads his entire stump speech from prepared 3x5 cards? "McCain, Ready to Read" is the new slogan.

    by Inland on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:48:38 AM PDT

    •  They probably still think news won't travel... (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Cyber Kat, rb608

      ...from AK to the lower 48 in time, because it has to come by dog sled.  Wait until Ted Stevens lets him know that there's a series of tubes and stuff!

      "Partnership and cooperation among nations is not a choice; it is the one way, the only way, to protect our common security and advance our common humanity."

      by SLKRR on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:58:23 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Naw. (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        SLKRR, MaineMike

        They know better now.  It's not like the old days when the you'd only see half of the Tonight Show because the other reel didn't make it onto the plane.  It's all beamed in now, Scotty.
        They just feel like nobody is REALLY paying attention.

        •  LOL (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:

          I remember those days!  Back in the 1970s.  I'd visit my grandparents in Colorado and the television shows that were broadcast in the Lower 48 were not seen in Alaska for another week, sometimes two.  

          I could watch game shows in Colorado, and after the visit ended fly home to Fairbanks and amaze my friends with my "ability" to correctly answer just about every question on that particular game show.

          "I am prepared. I need no on-the-job training. I wasn't a mayor for a short period of time. I wasn't a governor for a short period of time." - John McCain, 2007

          by MaineMike on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:38:34 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  There Should Be No Democratic Team (9+ / 0-)
    Get Real.  The democrats need to blast republicans on the economy.  If we need to rely on troopergate to win, then we have already lost.
    •  and, most importantly (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      boofdah, rb608

      this is a matter for Alaskans to set their own house in order.  

      Not to mention the fact the Republicans are screwing it up nicely all on their own.

    •  Who says rely? (9+ / 0-)

      No need to rely.

      But no need to tie one hand behind your back, either.

      "It's the economy, stupid" hasn't helped worth a damn with the Bush/Cheney subpoenas. And if the executive doesn't have to abide by the law, that's the real "already lost" situation.

      What do we hope to fix legislatively if the legislature is a mere cipher?

      We already gave away the 2000 election by insisting everyone would wake up and see that the issues were on our side.

      I'm not so certain I'm the one who needs to "get real" here.

      •  Question from a non-lawyer type (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Cyber Kat, armadill

        I wasn't aware that one can so easily dismiss a subpoena.  (Yes, I know - the last eight years should have clued me in).  I was the recipient of a subpoena only once in my life, and it involved me being a witness to a criminal act (theft).  No, I wasn't involved in the theft, but the prosecutors wanted to have me in court to testify as to what I saw.   As it turned out, the case was settled before I was due to appear.  But I distinctly recall the impression I got from the officer handing me the subpoena:  that not showing up was NOT an option.  Was I lied to even back then?

        "I am prepared. I need no on-the-job training. I wasn't a mayor for a short period of time. I wasn't a governor for a short period of time." - John McCain, 2007

        by MaineMike on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:46:36 AM PDT

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        •  It's not an option, unless you control the cops. (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:

          And she does.

          The reason you didn't have a choice about showing up was that you couldn't order the police not to arrest you if you didn't obey.

          Palin, like Bush and Cheney, believes she can order exactly that, as chief executive. Further, like Bush and Cheney, she believes it's a violation of the separation of powers for other branches of government to try to order her to do anything.

          Even if it's account for her own actions in office.

    •  yeah, 'cause there's not enough democrat lawyers (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      ChurchofBruce, sidnora, rb608

      out there.....right?

      we need ALL of them just going around and BLASTING McCain on the economy.

      sure, we can't rely on troopergate to win, but you need to get real.  there's no reason to sit back and let injustice be worked by a SWAT team of republican lawyers.

  •  McCain is not the same as W. (4+ / 0-)

    W waited until he was in the White House before the cover-ups began.

  •  There's a gun. There's smoke. (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    lgmcp, NogodsnomastersMary

    There needs to be gutsy Democrats to bring it to light.

    Who do we call? What can we do?

    Change the media ownership laws and reinstate the Fairness Doctrine

    by moosely2006 on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:49:21 AM PDT

  •  If you want to be a republican (6+ / 0-)

    in good standing, check your conscience at the door.

    "Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor liberty to purchase power." B. Franklin

    by istari5th on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:49:30 AM PDT

  •  This is just plain dumb (9+ / 0-)

    Is Palin really this dumb?

    She could let the investigation go forward with little fanfare and likely nothing serious coming out of it before November OR she could shine a spotlight on how Cheney-espque she is by doing this!

  •  Democrats do somthing right? (4+ / 0-)


    Seriously.   They will just write sternly worded letters and bitch about "not having the votes".

    This is why we need to primary bad Democrats people!!

  •  Good Lord, she IS qualified to be VP after all! ~ (20+ / 0-)

    "One should judge a man mainly from his depravities. Virtues can be faked. Depravities are real." -Klaus Kinski

    by MackInTheBox on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:49:46 AM PDT

  •  Alaskans need to voice their outrage...and I (5+ / 0-)

    believe they will!

    --It's a feverish world, Inman said, for lack of better comment. (Charles Frazier)

    by Taya Lawrence on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:49:57 AM PDT

  •  From the comments following the Anchorage Daily (11+ / 0-)

    News article on this same issue:  This is a comment written by an Alaskan:

    "jjus wrote on 09/17/2008 11:33:49 AM:
    I have 2 serious questions:

    (1) How can she credibly claim that Monegan was insubordinate when she previously praised his work and offered him another job on the Alcohol Control Board (ABC)?
    See KTVA 8-15-08 article, "Governor and staff's latest explanations leave more questions"
    (But weeks ago she praised Monegan for his abilities to solve those same issues when offering him a job as the director of the Alcohol Beverage Control Board. "I recognized Frank Bailey, Boards and Commissions Director that Walt's interests and strengths could be put to good use as he could concentrate exclusively on a couple of issues that were his interest, that be bootlegging and alcohol problems in rural Alaska," said Palin on July 17th.); see also Gov. Palin Press RELEASE No. 08-122 (7/17/08).

    (2) How can she claim she fired him because he wasn’t doing enough to combat bootlegging and alcohol abuse problems, yet offer him a new job in precisely that field?
    See KTVA 8-15-08 article ("I was concerned also that we were not doing enough on continuing alcohol abuse issues that I wanted to see tackled, including the bootlegging issues in rural Alaska"); See also CNBC interview ('What does a VP do?' video) ("it was the Commissioner that we were seeking more results, more action to fill, uh, vacant trooper positions, to deal with bootlegging and alcohol abuse problems in our rural villages especially. Um, just needed some new direction, a lot of new energy in that position. That is why the replacement took place there of the Commissioner of public safety.")

    There are only 2 options here:

    (A) She is lying, and in the process willing to playing politics with state procedure and to smear the reputation of a well-respected police chief (not to mention lying about ever contacting Monegan);


    (B) She is not lying, and she is so irrational that she offered a job to a guy to head up the ABC -- a task force she thinks is important (alcohol abuse/bootlegging, etc.) -- even though she claims she fired that same guy for failing to control alcohol abuse/bootlegging AND who she now accuses of insubordination.

    Which one is it?"

  •  it's a Second Civil War (11+ / 0-)

    The Republican Party is daring Democrats to do anything when they openly reject the rule of law and the Constitution. The former realize the rule of law is long dead in America and that might makes right, whereas the latter still believe that America's divisions can be healed through the political process. It's too late for that.

    From a historical perspective, partition or civil war are the only two options left long-term for America, even if Obama wins in November.

  •  We've become... (9+ / 0-)

    ...a banana republic, for all intents and purposes.

    Or perhaps a version of Brezhnev's USSR with better songs.

    Smell the rot, folks. And start thinking about personal survival.


    by Lupin on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:50:30 AM PDT

  •  new ad (3+ / 0-)

    Two Republicans who have chosen to ignore subpoenas, thus thumbing their nose at the law? Sarah Palin and Karl Rove!

  •  GOP is soft on crime... when it's theirs (12+ / 0-)

    It's a pretty simple concept, seen over and over:

    Republicans don't believe in Democracy.

    Conservatives don't believe in America.

    This is why we need change.  We need adults in charge.

    "What doesn't have credibility today is the truth." -- Bill Moyers, The Daily Show 6/22/05

    by Baron Dave on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:50:43 AM PDT

  •  I think Obama needs to watch the Untouchables (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    or something.  

    I would hope that Dean and the DNC are ready to dive into this mess.

    Don't be so afraid of dying that you forget to live.

    by LionelEHutz on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:51:37 AM PDT

  •  I don't see how this helps McSame/Palin (5+ / 0-)

    As a friend's grandmother would say "I can't get smart out of this."

    To paraphrase Stephen Colbert: 2008-Great Depression or Greatest Depression?

    by MufsMom on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:51:48 AM PDT

  •  Alaska Attorney General joins coverup (4+ / 0-)

    bobdevo has a different slant on the AP Report on this in his diary here:

    In a letter to state Sen. Hollis French, the Democrat overseeing the investigation, Republican Attorney General Talis Colberg asked that the subpoenas be withdrawn . . . Colberg, who was appointed by Palin, said the employees are caught between their respect for the Legislature and their loyalty to the governor, who initially agreed to cooperate with the inquiry but has increasingly opposed it since McCain chose her as his running mate.

    Here we are now Entertain us I feel stupid and contagious

    by Scarce on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:51:55 AM PDT

  •  Usually, in situations like Palin's, old scandals (8+ / 0-)

    . . . are asked about and the politician seeking higher public office is obliged to explain or answer to it.

    In Palin's case, she's created a whole new scandal (that pretty much dwarfs the original one) while she's seeking the higher office.  In only 3 weeks.  

    This must be a new record of some sort.

    And, so, she and McCain are going to "clean up" Washington, while stonewalling investigation/s of her own scandals and running from her own accountability???


    "We in the gloam, old buddy," he said, "We definitely right in the middle of it." -Larry Brown

    by BenGoshi on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:52:10 AM PDT

  •  Palin: "I Can Do Whatever I Want Until Courts " (14+ / 0-)

    This dovetails with a piece that Salon did this morning.  

    Key quotes:


    "I can do whatever I want until the courts say no."

    Palin former city council colleague:  

    "Executive experience?  She doesn't have any"

    Diary from this morning on the full story is here.

    These two stories tell us again what we should be repeating to the public:

    We don't want her sitting at Dick Cheney's desk.  

    "None are more enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." - Goethe

    by Sarea on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:52:32 AM PDT

  •  who should take the lead? (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    sidnora, rian90, Cyber Kat, moosely2006

    I'm not sure it's best for the Obama campaign or the Democratic Party to take the lead here.  It may be best for outside organizations, such as MoveOn, funding "What is Palin trying to cover up?" ads or the like. Also, are there pro-democratic law groups willing to fight on that side? If there were, I'm sure they'd get plenty of small donor (and maybe some not so small donor) support.

  •  Don't worry (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    MaineMike, fizziks, moosely2006

    Hannity will get to the bottom of this.
    If he doesn't, Couric will.

    Major snark

    Moderation in all things-NOT

    by Julie Gulden on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:52:54 AM PDT

  •  If Dem lawyers really wanted to Protect the Vote (0+ / 0-)

    we'd be dealing with this, and not busy trying to staff every single precinct with a lawyer (who will end up mostly giving directions to the right precinct, for confused voters).

    •  um, hello? (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      scrutinizer, moosely2006

      what does this collateral matter have to do with voting?

      Get a grip.

      •  You fight on every front, everywhere. (5+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        mbc, Sui Juris, 714day, boofdah, moosely2006

        Or you get steamrollered, and before you know it, you're producing outraged documentaries about it.

        •  Yes, as (0+ / 0-)

          we were told in Israel, go to your borders or they come to you.  

          Well, okay, a bad example.  But I agree.  The Democrats need to take some principled action on this.  And it would be nice if there was, like, an investigative journalist or two that did the same.

        •  You fight where the enemy is. (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:

          A crafty enemy will make you think he is everywhere, so that you can fight on every front everywhere -- and weaken your resources, split up your attack, water down your defenses.

          Your best bet: good intelligence, and good instincts, a good smell of where the fight is, and a good sense of leadership to summon all persons into the fight.

          "Half of the American people never read a newspaper. Half never vote for President. One hopes it is the same half." - Gore Vidal

          by sapper on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:43:57 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  And they're there. (2+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            boofdah, stillwaters

            So go.

            I don't think having three lawyers go where the Republican VP's political base is really counts much on the "watering down your defenses" scale, to be honest.

            How do you get that "good intelligence?" By waiting for an Alaska blogger to give it to you?

            You go and get it.

            The fight is right before our very eyes. The Republicans know it all too well. That's why they're on the ground there. So that the net result of the investigation that even local Republicans knew had to move forward comes out as a whitewash.

            How will this be made up to the rest of us when you later claim this could not have been foreseen, as has been the case with so very much with these guys?

            Just two years ago, the Democratic mantra in the 2006 elections was, "We're gonna get subpoena power!" Now everyone laughs at subpoena power. Great intelligence, instincts, and smelling of the fight on that one. Another fight we didn't go to.

            •  but look at the stories coming out already (0+ / 0-)

              about how McCain's team parachuted in from elsewhere are already botching local rules and ignorant of local customs.

              They are the ones who are politicizing this thing; let the media tell that story. It will be an opportunity to draw yet another sharp contrast between the Obama campaign and the McCain campaign.

              This is a collateral issue to the election, and it doesn't even resemble the 2000 situation in Florida (which was for all the marbles).

              •  The door's open, then. (0+ / 0-)

                The first stories are written. So parachuting in now is a relative freebie. They're expecting it.

                The media aren't telling the story of Republican presence in any damaging way, though. You'll get a milquetoast "locals are grousing" story. Big whoop. Adding Dems to that is a wash, at worst.

                The thing about these fights is that most people don't actually know how many marbles are at stake until it's too late. I think it's a hell of a lot more than collateral, though the effects are both diffuse and delayed.

                Continuing to see these things as collateral keeps the price of perpetrating them low, though the political costs to us are enormous.

                Florida 2000 was for all the marbles that we knew of. Activity like this -- where the ultimate effect on the outcome of an election is months in the future and unknowable -- forces you to ask how many marbles were taken off the table before we ever knew they were up for grabs?

                •  Well, you could fool everybody (0+ / 0-)

                  And go in riding M-113s stead of parachutes, but those things are cold even in the desert.

                  I really think it's a waste of time  up there in Alaska, not to mention not appropriate for national dem lawyers to look for any sort of nonsense in a state matter.

                  The fight is on the election front, in the swing states, where it was in 2004 and 2000. But if you want to get your parachute on, it wouldn't bother me.

                  "Half of the American people never read a newspaper. Half never vote for President. One hopes it is the same half." - Gore Vidal

                  by sapper on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 12:03:26 PM PDT

                  [ Parent ]

                •  "he did it first" (0+ / 0-)

                  never worked on your mom, did it?

                  We're already swimming upstream against a widespread belief that "both sides are all alike."  You have to dent that notion to get to people who don't vote because they think there's no difference between the parties.

                  If the Obama campaign sends teams of lawyers into Alaska and succeeds in pushing the investigation forward, they'll just cry about partisan politics, and see? Obama's no different than McCain. Plus, the investigation might actually exonerate Palin. Ever consider that?

                  No, this is great how it is. The investigation is blocked by McCain's stonewalling so it can't be resolved before the election. The story is "what are they hiding? Must be something really bad if they won't even cooperate with their own local Republican legislature."

      •  thank you for your considered advice, Elmo (0+ / 0-)

        I'll give it the respect it deserves.

    •  The money this would cost (1+ / 0-)
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      is not worth it. Spend the money on fighting to protect the vote, as they are doing in various states. But spending money on a legal battle in Alaska is really not the job of the Democrats. I would be upset if the money I was donating was going to hire lawyers for Alaska democrats to fight this. Let it drag out..but put the focus on the lack of transparency, executive privilege, etc.

      Sorry, but its not Obama's campaign's job to deal with Palin's refusal to participate in this investigation. It is the state of Alaska's job. They voted for her and now they have to deal with it.

      On the other hand, I think this could be enough of a mess if the media continues to cover it to make her look as if she is covering herself.

  •  When did subpeonas become such a joke???? (13+ / 0-)

    I keep hearing about all these government officials just ignoring subpoenas. Why?!?!?!?!  Isn't that against the law or something?

    Are subpoenas worth about as much as monopoly money now?

    It's just so infuriating!! I thought a subpoena was, you know, kinda serious?

    Either you are a feminist or a sexist/misogynist. There is no box marked `other'." -Ani DiFranco

    by ErinW43 on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:53:25 AM PDT

  •  Let me get this straight: Five Republican (23+ / 0-)

    state senators file suit claiming that the probe is biased and partisan, but what they want as recourse is for top democrats to be removed from the probe, and replaced with Republicans?  In other words, they want the probe to be undertaken entirely by Republicans?

    So the claim is that it's a partisan probe, but the suggested remedy is that it be made a partisan probe?

  •  Not to belabor the obvious (15+ / 0-)

    ..but innocent people rarely go to such lengths to evade the law.

  •  The Arrogant Defiance of Subpoenas works well (11+ / 0-)
    for pampered celebrity politicians and their staff people.  Unfortunately, the rest of us mere mortals would be doing jail time for refusing to respond to subpoenas.  Wonder why it's okay for them, but not for us?  Wonder what would happen if every one of us mere mortals who receive subpoenas in the next several months just decided to follow the lead of GWB & his successor to the Crown of Arrogance, Smug Sarah?
  •  Seems like just yesterday they were the.. (4+ / 0-)
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    Law n Order Party. Now their the contempt for Rule of Law People.  What a difference a bush/cheney makes.

    America, we are better than these last 8 years. We are a better country than this.

    by moondancing on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:54:41 AM PDT

  •  A higher standard (3+ / 0-)
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    Maybe with the GOP, the oath they swear to in Alaska is similar to the one the officers in the Administration swear to, i.e. to their leader, not the Constitution or the State. Love those personality cults.  Der Fuhrer uber alles!

  •  Let me explain: McCain campaign = scum (3+ / 0-)
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    Hillbilly Dem, Cyber Kat, moosely2006

    Govern yourselves accordingly.

    You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

    by Cartoon Peril on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:55:04 AM PDT

  •  The Faulty Physics of Our Framers (5+ / 0-)

    What it comes down to is that the Republicans have consistently been light-years ahead of the left --which includes the framers-- in understanding how our system does and does not operate.

    I realize that we're talking in this specific instance about the nation of Alaska, but many of the same basics apply.

    The framers had a well developed fear of an imperial head of state, as demonstrated in their placing of important war powers in the people's legislature.

    But the Republicans have made it obvious to everyone in their syndicate that the framers had no conception whatever of the possibility of a criminal head of state, or of a criminal syndicate of governance.

    The US Constitution for all its balances is staggeringly deficient in hard checks against abuse of power. I don't know Alaska's system, but today's subpoena refusal suggests that it's similar enough to the US system that the Republicans that in it as in the American system there exists no legal authority that can impose law on them.

    Absent amendments at bare minimum, this is your system of government, this is your nation, this is the heritage of the Enlightenment.


    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:55:16 AM PDT

    •  Actually, Thomas Paine (0+ / 0-)

      mentioned that there might be exactly such issues.  He was blown off as being nonsensical.  He was quelled by the notion that the populace would not tolerate it and another rebellion would result to throw the bums out should the unthinkable occur.

  •  So the "conservative Christian position" (7+ / 0-)

    is to give the finger to the rule of law?

    John McCain - all aboard the lobbyist express!

    by jrooth on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:55:25 AM PDT

    •  Hey, as long as she's savin' the baby stem-cells (0+ / 0-)

      ...conservative "Christians" couldn't give three shits about those inconvenient little nuisance chiseled on stone that read: "Thou shalt not bear false witness" and "Thou shalt not steal".

      Do you want to leave your children a legacy of hope or hopelessness? Vote Obama '08 and save our country!

      by boofdah on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 11:20:51 AM PDT

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  •  that newsweek story confirms... (6+ / 0-)
    ...that the personnel board has already retained an independent counsel in this matter:

    Even O'Callaghan acknowledged today that Palin's motion to dismiss her own ethics complaint against herself is not likely to immediately end the matter. The Personnel Board has already appointed its own investigator to look into the Monegan firing, and that work, will at least for the time being, proceed until the Board can take up the new motion.

    i have been trying to draw attention to this fact for over a week now and this is the first time i've seen it mentioned in the traditional media (or in any media for that matter).

  •  Happy Constitution day! (10+ / 0-)

    GOP tearing it up as we speak

    Economy troubles ? Ask the lady over there beating her ex-brother-in-law with a moose antler.

    by lostmypassword on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:56:46 AM PDT

  •  Democratic team parachuted into Michigan (5+ / 0-)
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    In an effort to blunt or prevent the Republicans bullshit voter fraud challenges that they know will come about?

    Dems are on it. Alaska? Outside of the obvious Palination of the law that's stated, three blood-red electorals.

    People with much more resources than I have decided that Michigan and Ohio and Florida need to be addressed more than Palin. I'm inclined to agree, but yeah, there's going to be some dustup in Alaska that the Rebuplicans may mess up.

    "Half of the American people never read a newspaper. Half never vote for President. One hopes it is the same half." - Gore Vidal

    by sapper on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:57:02 AM PDT

  •  Hold on just one minute! Seriously!!!! (10+ / 0-)

    Look, McCain's poll numbers are tanking, and the message of the day - a remarkably trenchant and biting one - is that McCain's so out of touch w/ the economy that he thinks the fundamentals are sound.

    All this "Airdropping lawyers! See they're lying!" stuff, while true, is distracting from a message that's working.

    Tennis metaphor: when you have a style that's beating your opponent, keep using it as long as it continues to beat your opponent!

    "It's better to realize you're a swan than to live life as a disgruntled duck."

    by Mumon on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:57:05 AM PDT

  •  It seems that (5+ / 0-)

    Ted Stevens lost his .last bidto get his trial thrown out. Will be interesting to see if she throws Uncle Ted under the bus to feed her own personal ambition

    I'll start honoring John McCain's service to this country - just as soon as he stops dishonoring it.

    by frsbdg on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:57:08 AM PDT

  •  Not sure I want the (14+ / 0-)

    national Democrats to anything more than draw attention to this issue.  Alaskans are already furious about the McCain/Republican interference in State politics.  Palin/McCain have deeply divided AK republicans in the legislature and the populace.  I will be interested in seeing how hard the Republicans and Democrats on the committee push back.

    What Palin has accomplished is the humiliation of the Republicans who backed this investigation.  She is telling them to step aside and let the big boys take over.  I hope she pays for this when she comes crawling back after the election.

    My faith in the Constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total. Barbara Jordan 1974

    by gchaucer2 on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:57:25 AM PDT

    •  It wouldn't be my preference... (2+ / 0-)
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      at least, not in the absence of Republican interference.

      But that's not the situation.

      Hey, I'd like to be a nice guy about it, but I know how that's worked out in the past.

      I'd rather fight it out, win, and apologize to Alaskans later, if necessary.

      At least moreso than sit on my hands, trust the nice folks, lose, and get no apology.

      •  I understand your point (1+ / 0-)
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        I keep forgetting we are fighting in a lawless society.  Still tough to get my head around that.  Thanks for responding to my comment.

        My faith in the Constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total. Barbara Jordan 1974

        by gchaucer2 on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:07:52 AM PDT

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    •  Exactly... (2+ / 0-)
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      Knut Wicksell, Cyber Kat

      Palin and McCain may want to draw these proceedings out until November, but that may be what we want as well.  Can you imagine Palin campaigning (or speaking from her bunker) for the next seven weeks with this ethics cloud hanging over her.  Sorry, that's not the mark of a "maverick" from Alaska.

      The GOP would love nothing better than to end this thing in a week's time, so that Palin can be moved across the country to really campaign.  It might be best to bring this to everyone's attention, have Biden remind everyone of this investigation during their debate, and then let the public have at it.

      Palin and McCain are like every other fracking Republican make-believe legislator... they want to govern my house and tell me how to live my life but they refuse to put their own house in order -- well, in this case, their own houses; and lots of them.

      America, we are better than these last eight years. We are a better country than this. -- Barack Obama, the next President of our United States.

      by BasharH on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:12:38 AM PDT

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    •  When the opponents are killing themselves, (1+ / 0-)
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      Cyber Kat

      stay the heck out of the way.

      "Half of the American people never read a newspaper. Half never vote for President. One hopes it is the same half." - Gore Vidal

      by sapper on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:22:06 AM PDT

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    •  Maybe worth 3 EV's (1+ / 0-)
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      Cyber Kat

      If the Alaskan Republiks are divided on Palin and resentful of her behaviour, and if as it seems they are mostly libertarians, they may throw the state to Obama.  He always had a chance there.  In a close election (let's hope it isn't), Alaska could be crucial.  Heckuva job, Sara.

  •  somebody please tell me that palin's goin' DOWN (5+ / 0-)

    this is outrageous! if these people get elected, i'm ... i'm ... i'm ... aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!

  •  Time for Leno or someone to (4+ / 0-)
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    Bensdad, sapper, boofdah, Cyber Kat

    observe that there are now for the first time in history more Republican lawyers than caribou in Alaska.

    We have only just begun and none too soon.

    by global citizen on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:57:53 AM PDT

  •  Dems shouldn't be there (12+ / 0-)

    Look, the Republicans are sending people there to interfere with justice, and that's a bad thing.

    Sending Democrats there just lends weight to the accusations of it being politicized.

    A better strategy is to constantly and publicly point out that "Palin and McCain are trying to suppress an investigation in Alaska," and that "The campaign has sent a team of lawyers to Alaska to help suppress an investigation.  Who do you think is actually politicizing things?"

    Every Dem should be saying this, over and over.  That's how you fight it, not by throwing resources at it and making it look like you're trying to twist things your way.

    It's not Florida 2000.  It's a completely different situation and scenario.  Make the point that they're just going to continue the corruption of the Bush administration.

    •  Yes. It's what my post above yours gets to. (3+ / 0-)
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      drmonkey, rian90, moosely2006

      Just that dem lawyers have bigger fish to fry making sure the election is run on the square in Michigan, Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania. Elsewhere too, but specifically on these states.

      "Half of the American people never read a newspaper. Half never vote for President. One hopes it is the same half." - Gore Vidal

      by sapper on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:01:50 AM PDT

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    •  That would work if the coprorate media (0+ / 0-)

      would pick up and echo it. But, I'm afraid the first capture by the team playing the black pieces - was the media.

      We're on the ropes. We've been played. And we need this election to regain the ability to restore the Constitution and the rule of law.

      This is the big one.

      Change the media ownership laws and reinstate the Fairness Doctrine

      by moosely2006 on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:02:09 AM PDT

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      •  Past tense. (1+ / 0-)
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        Look on Wall Street. Obama's chief goal at least this week is to articulate what is happening on wall street, and relate it to people out of work on Main Street.

        In this aspect, Biden is really helping Obama taking it to McPalin. Biden's doing loud shouting, Obama's trimmed up his sentences. They're spot on.

        McPalin? Where they? I guess worse comes to worse, they can steal another DNC plank of the platform, and run on that for a couple of days.

        "Half of the American people never read a newspaper. Half never vote for President. One hopes it is the same half." - Gore Vidal

        by sapper on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:24:50 AM PDT

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    •  It's working great so far. (1+ / 0-)
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      And obviously it's a different set of facts from Florida 2000. I don't think you need to waste any time making that argument.

      But we were last to move in Florida, too. And there were plenty of arguments made for our being "hands off" there, as well. Then, when we were already behind the 8 ball, we realized we should be fighting, too.

      Worked great.

      •  Florida was different... (1+ / 0-)
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        In Florida, the voting rights of millions were a national election. The Democrats should have gotten more involved when thugs ripped into Palm Beach and shut down the recounts.

        In Alaska, this is a state investigation into accusations against a sitting governor. The Republicans shouldn't be there either and are interfering in this case. They are wrong but the Democrats jumping in to save..who exactly? The voters from having to make a decision on Palin without the information? Then the best thing the Democrats and Obama's team can do is get out the information that the Republicans on Palin and McCain's behalf are interfering in a STATE investigation. Whatever happened to the rights of the State?

        But sending in teams of lawyers to fight this on behalf of the Democrats is a bad idea, in my opinion. Even if she is found guilty, which may or may not happen, the sympathy for this poor woman attacked by the Democrats will help rather than hurt her.

        •  Yes, we know Florida was different. (0+ / 0-)

          It's also hotter.

          But nobody's saying it's literally the same thing.

          And I have yet to see the materialization of this threatened "sympathy vote." It's just not in the numbers, for all the fear it has generated.

      •  You know what's great? (2+ / 0-)
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        Cyber Kat, Fireshadow

        Dem lawyers are the first in Michigan, where the vote's going to be close, and rebugs are going to do all they can to go after those voter registrations that are tied to incorrect addresses.

        Incorrect addresses, mind you, brought about by foreclosures.


        "Half of the American people never read a newspaper. Half never vote for President. One hopes it is the same half." - Gore Vidal

        by sapper on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:26:19 AM PDT

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  •  More of the same (3+ / 0-)
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    sapper, Cyber Kat, sherlyle

    Another example that MCPalin is just Bush/Cheney

    I shall not rest until right wing conservatives are 4th party gadflies limited to offering minor corrections on legislation once or twice a year.

    by davefromqueens on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:59:05 AM PDT

  •  Probably part of the VP deal (2+ / 0-)
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    Bensdad, Cyber Kat

    The McCain campaign probably agreed in advance to bring some heavy duty legal firepower to Alaska as part of the VP invite to Palin.  She and Todd said "Oh, but we have this little problem up here with my ex-brother-in-law" and the McCain camp said "We'll take care of it".

    "We make our world significant by the courage of our questions and by the depth of our answers." Carl Sagan

    by John3 on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:59:48 AM PDT

  •  Putting It All On the Table (2+ / 0-)
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    Eman, Cyber Kat

    Well, at least Sarah Palin and the GOP are putting it all on the table.

    Troopergate's a fine example of the the kind of government Sarah Palin will run if she's elected VP.

    If the American people want four more years of the same old thing we've gone through for the past eight years, and then some, well then I guess they should vote Republican in the next election.

    If they're fed up with being lied to, then they should make a change.

    It's simple.

  •  Todd ain't no employee. He's just the lunkhead (2+ / 0-)
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    boofdah, soms

    hanging around the gubernatorial mansion chewing the moose jerky.

    "we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex" Dwight D. Eisenhower

    by bobdevo on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:00:15 AM PDT

  •  the telegraph lines to alaska have been (1+ / 0-)
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  •  Sorry - This Isn't The Democrats' Problem (6+ / 0-)

    This is a rule of law problem.  The Democrats can't be expected to play sherriff here.  That is not their function.

    Remember, the Democratic Party is only a political party.  The DNC can't be expected to provide law enforcement.

  •  By the way, Kagro, (3+ / 0-)
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    boofdah, Terminus, EastcoastChick

    "Does the full Cheney" brings up imagery that I really didn't need.

  •  Our country is a fucking joke at this point. (2+ / 0-)
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    scrutinizer, IndyScott

    McCain * Palin 08 - A Bridge To Nowhere!

    by Beelzebud on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:02:46 AM PDT

  •  Todd Palin is not a state employee (3+ / 0-)

    and he cannot claim executive privilege on his e-mails.

    Grandpa Simpson is a cartoon character...John McCain is an actual person...
    McCain/Unable '08

    by wry twinger on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:02:57 AM PDT

  •  Why Should We Have a Team Up There? (4+ / 0-)

    This investigation ISN'T a partisan witch hunt.  Why should the Obama campaign (which has zero role in the thing they are investigating) send someone up there to help it along if all that's going to do is help make it look that way?

    --- It's SPELLED "TooFolkGR" but it's pronounced "Throat-Warbler Mangrove."

    by TooFolkGR on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:03:34 AM PDT

    •  Because we know where nice guys finish. (2+ / 0-)
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      slinkerwink, radarlady

      The partisan witch hunt cat is out of the bag.

      Throwing the game won't make that go away.

      •  Talk about a distraction... (2+ / 0-)
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        MaineMike, Cyber Kat

        It's clear she is hiding something. It's clear that the McCain campaign had to come in to do damage control and strong arm the investigation. I agree with others that throwing Obama's legal team into the mix would be playing right into their clains that this is a partisan attack by Obama supporters.

        I think it's far more important to continue hitting Unstable/Unable about the economy, healthcare, etc. and let this coverup play out. Give them enough rope...

        •  It doesn't need to be "Obama's legal team." (1+ / 0-)
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          But it needs to be help.

          I've been waiting for the bad economy meme to kill Republicans for years. It hasn't so far. But in the meantime, obvious lawbreaking has foreclosed our every opportunity to make any actual issue stick.

          And the suggestion, again, is to let it all come out in the wash?


          No thanks.

          •  Man, I'm torn on this (0+ / 0-)

            Had to rec both Danbury and Kagro.  I'm at a loss and will have to mull this over.

            Trying to think of the perspective of an Alaskan watching all of these Republicans from Outside flying up and meddling in state affairs.  

            Being a Republican state, does this mean that the majority of Alaskans will view these Republican interlopers as the cavalry that has arrived, or will the whole thing backfire, and will Alaskans tilt towards resentment of an out-of-state coverup squad sticking their noses where they don't belong?

            "I am prepared. I need no on-the-job training. I wasn't a mayor for a short period of time. I wasn't a governor for a short period of time." - John McCain, 2007

            by MaineMike on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 10:07:19 AM PDT

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            •  I guess we might as well ask this: (1+ / 0-)
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              Was Obama going to carry Alaska? Would having experienced attorneys advising the legislators conducting the investigation be responsible for losing their three electoral votes?

              Or would the fact that their governor is on the ticket and it's a red state to begin with have a little something to do with it?

              Are we really going to freak out over "backlash" in a state like that? And sacrifice our last, best chance to nip this insanely meteoric rise in the bud?

              •  Points well taken, Kagro n/t (0+ / 0-)

                "I am prepared. I need no on-the-job training. I wasn't a mayor for a short period of time. I wasn't a governor for a short period of time." - John McCain, 2007

                by MaineMike on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 10:16:16 AM PDT

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              •  i think we may well be pleasantly surprised (0+ / 0-)

                at how well obama does in alaska in november.  i don't appreciate your condescension.

                •  We may be. (0+ / 0-)

                  But three electoral votes is three electoral votes. It's fact, not condescension. I'd love to have them, and I'd love to compete for them.

                  But not fighting for them is where the condescension lies, in my opinion.

                  Waiting for them to fall into our lap while we're besieged by wolves doesn't give those three electoral votes the respect they deserve.

                  •  i'm sorry to bristle there. (1+ / 0-)
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                    alaska is in many ways the same as the national scene, with a lot of internal debate within the democrats' inner circle on how much progressivity is desirable and possibly effective.  i guess i'm not ready to call out the AK dems' tactics at this point in history, because they have made modest gains in the last two elections and they have stayed out of the scandal that's thrown the alaska republicans into chaos.  i know many conservatives here who are voting for obama.  it would be a grave error to assume they'd be 'greeted as liberators' if a bunch of democratic lawyers sailed in here and attempted to compete with the mc cain campaign to derail our state government.  it would be antithetical to the democrats' longer term prospects.

    •  Besides (1+ / 0-)
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      Cyber Kat

      Palin is already saying that the Obama team is "tainting" the investigation.

      Don't need to give them anymore ammuniation.  Let this play out, its only going to make her look bad for not cooperating.

      If you were innocent, you would not have a problem with cooperating.

      by GlowNZ on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:09:27 AM PDT

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  •  Pure Republican elitism (2+ / 0-)
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    Cyber Kat, RickMassimo

    There's one rule for them, another for everyone else.

    Obama: Change We Need! McCain: Chump Change.

    by Red Bean on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:04:03 AM PDT

    •  And slightly OT, but ... (0+ / 0-)

      But O'Callaghan (who resigned from the U.S. attorney's office at the end of July to join the McCain campaign) is doing more than just public relations when it comes to "troopergate."

      In this economy, the guy quit his job to take a job that would by definition end in three months. Sounds like someon who considers himself too big to fail.

      Which he probably is, and I know that this is how it works all the time. It just particularly sticks in my craw today for some reason.

      The above comment is probably disrespectful of John McCain's military service somehow.

      by RickMassimo on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:36:10 AM PDT

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  •  There is a danger here for both sides.... (3+ / 0-)
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    sapper, Tyrannocaster, maxxdogg

    ...the National Democratic party cannot be seen interfering in this state issue. The Republicans ARE interfering and will probably delay or even kill the report, but in so doing are showing their usual heavy heavy hand. That will cost them. It won't cost them as much as if the expected report issued, but it will cost them.

    THEY have a client to represent (Palin) while the only client on the OTHER side of this is the People of the State of Alaska, represented by their legislature. We have no smooth way of assisting that legislature.

    The heavy hand shown here may well anger the Legislature and prove counter-productive.

    You don't get where Sarah got as quickly as she did without making a lot of enemies. Any support for those enemies must be covert and nearly untraceable.

    If you are spending time denying accusations and repeating your accusers' own words in your denial, you are losing. -- Tucker Eskew, Republican Operative

    by Bensdad on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:04:26 AM PDT

    •  I agree, (1+ / 0-)
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      the only thing we can realistically do is shine the light of day on their actions and let the uninformed see what's going on.  

      Bipartisanship isn't going to happen as long as one of America's two great parties believes that when it comes to politics, stupidity is the best policy.

      by War Horse on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:06:44 AM PDT

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    •  what will it cost them? (0+ / 0-)

      I see no evidence that the GOP's lawyering up is having any effect on their status in the race. The media don't care, and the Dems do nothing.

      It's amazing to see people STILL advocating to keep powder dry while GOP lawyers fix and cover up, and Democrats hope for the Rule of Law Fairy to finally arrive.'s Progressive Community

      by torridjoe on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:18:39 AM PDT

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    •  Dems just need to call repubs out on this (3+ / 0-)
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      Bensdad, greenomanic, Fireshadow

      and stay the hell away from Alaska.

      "Half of the American people never read a newspaper. Half never vote for President. One hopes it is the same half." - Gore Vidal

      by sapper on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:28:50 AM PDT

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  •  subpoenas (1+ / 0-)
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    If we're lucky, maybe the Alaska state senate will show our Congress how it's done.
  •  well (1+ / 0-)
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    the upside to all this is that it makes Palin look like she is hiding something.  Even if shes not, it looks bad.

    Watch her approval rating continue to fall.  Its already gone down six points.

    by GlowNZ on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:07:55 AM PDT

    •  According to Keith it's 10 percent (0+ / 0-)

      Her approval rating dropped four points and her disapproval rating rose six points.  I suppose those four points went into "Undecided/Don't Care."  Like Keith said last night, it's an amazing fall considering it happened over just a few days.

      It is a pleasure to watch McCain and his buddies drive themselves off a cliff, especially Fiorina, the "let's ruin a company and walk away with $40 mil" poster girl for corporate America.  She did tell the truth about Palin and McCain, so there still is a little bit of a soul left in her body.  I'm sure McCain will have sucked that out of her by the time she returns to TV.

      BTW guys, remember, Palin's the VP candidate, not The P candidate.  McCain's driving the bus, she's just a passenger.  She's essentially a sideshow.  Why do you think Obama and his people are hitting McCain so hard and ignoring Palin?  If the ticket were Palin/McCain, then I'd say:  "Charge main weapons!  Bombard Alaska with lawyers!"  But no, she's not.

  •  Who should even be responsible for this... (2+ / 0-)
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    rian90, carolinacal

    Shouldn't it be the Alaska Democratic Party, backed up by the DNC?  Obama, after all, has an election to win.  McCain may want to waste resources slowing this investigation down but I don't see how Obama getting involved here helps him get his story out.

    The DNC should be here combatting Republicans.  Of course Obama can sanction this and he can even make some statements about the parallels between Palin and Cheney and how Republican'ts just can't seem to stay within the dictates of the law when it comes to governance.  But what are the options?

    America, we are better than these last eight years. We are a better country than this. -- Barack Obama, the next President of our United States.

    by BasharH on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:08:13 AM PDT

  •  Donation to the Campaign of McCain (0+ / 0-)

    I'm surprised that an attorney would be so obvious as to donate his time to the campaign of McCain to help with Troopergate. I'm wondering if the Democrats are taking a tally of the actual hours that Edward O'Callaghan and his assistant are putting towards the Troopergate issue. Since, his time is around $400-$600 an hour at a minimum, wouldn't it be easy to charge the McCain campaign with an illegal contribution (for all time over the legal donation limitation) from someone who's donating their time? Any ideas? It seems pretty easy to link O'Callaghan with the campaign (even though he isn't officially part of the campaign which is actually worse really, donation-wise).

  •  Cheneyism (0+ / 0-)

    Cheneyism seems to be winning the poll as Sarah's best feature on my first diary, 10 Things I Like About Sarah Palin.

  •  you act like its the end all and sum of all parts (3+ / 0-)
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    scrutinizer, greenomanic, boofdah

    No, it's ugly, it's shameful, it's crooked, it makes a mockery of the law and at it's core it's just about as un-American as it gets. But seriously, if we're relying on troopergate to win the election then we've lost already.

    Let's hope the judicial system in Alaska has the good sense to uphold the rule of law. Doesn't matter how good or high priced their lawyers are, I think the unanimous decision to let the investigation move forward is good enough for any honest judge to not be swayed.

    Call me a fool, but I'm not impressed with the McCain campaigns tactics.

  •  Whitewater ++ (0+ / 0-)
    I dont see why you are so worried about the 'official' investigation; its already over.  Everyone in America who would be influenced one way or another by "official" findings already knows she did it.  

    This story will never die because it describes who she is to a tee.   Just as Whitewater cemented public ideas of the Clintons as backwater petty crooks, she is cemeted as Sarah Barracuda for more than half of America already.

    If you compare this sideshow to Florida 2000, than every sideshow is like Florida 2000.

    Also, in the end we may be lucky Florida 2000 did happen, if it helps bring about realignment in November.  

    Go out and get some votes- this undercard event is nothing to worry about.

    Out of my cold dead hands

    by bluelaser2 on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:10:57 AM PDT

    •  But it does need to be advertised. (1+ / 0-)
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      I see an ad showing Palin's team refusing subpoena's - and Bush's team refusing subpoena's. Then another shot of McCain hugging Bush.

      The details of this particular issue don't matter. But Obama's team needs to use everything to beat it into people's head that McCain == Bush, not just in economic mismanagement, military mistakes, and regulatory screw-ups... but even in national dishonor.

      •  that is a fine idea for an ad (0+ / 0-)

        there is sooo much grist for the mill

        plus McCain does NOT equal Bush- its worse than that !

        Out of my cold dead hands

        by bluelaser2 on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 11:07:52 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Yeah, (1+ / 0-)
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          people don't quite get how evil McCain is by throwing in explicitly with the dominionist/AIP crowd.

          Did'ja know that the AIP is an affiliate of the Constitution Party, whose presidential candidate is speaking at the Southern's League's national convention November 1st? McCain -> Palin -> Todd -> AIP -> CP -> real life fascists.

          No joke. Bush only faked support for those people - McCain has not only gotten in bed with them, he didn't even bring a condom!

  •  In the San Francisco Chronicle (1+ / 0-)
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    Pat Buchanon has an article called "Neocons making Sarah Palin a Project".  

    McCain/Palin: Lie Traffickers

    by ccmask on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:11:30 AM PDT

    •  PS: (0+ / 0-)

      The Buchanan article talks about Lieberman, AIPAC and Palin behind closed doors and that Palin has finally passed the test.  It was in the print Tampa Bay Paper but not on the online version.

      McCain/Palin: Lie Traffickers

      by ccmask on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:19:20 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  just politically tone deaf (1+ / 0-)
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    Rich in PA

    all she had to do was say, "you know what, this guy was a menace, he was tazering kids, he was drunk driving, etc, and I thought it a travesty that he remained on the job.

    Perhaps I did go overboard in trying to get rid of him, but I just care so darn much, yadda yadda yadda.."

    This would have made the issue a non-issue. Not saying it should, but it would have.

    Instead, this whole digging in makes it look so much more like something wrong happened. What are they thinking over there??

    I'm glad they are doing it for our sakes, but were I on the other side, I'd wonder why the heck be so stupid?

  •  Attack of Wazzila (1+ / 0-)
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    "A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls." -George W. Bush

    by Redneck for Obama on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:15:42 AM PDT

  •  Get some fucking DEMOCRATIC LAWYERS there (0+ / 0-)

    to help.

    What about it?

    •  Dem lawyers are fighting in Michigan (2+ / 0-)
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      scrutinizer, boofdah

      A big swing state that's leaning Obama but could go McCain, possibly if the republican bullshit claims of voter fraud go uncontested.

      Relax, national dems remember Florida very well, enough so not to be distracted by a clear state issue in Alaska.

      Besides, when your opponents are killing themselves, stay the hell out of the way.

      "Half of the American people never read a newspaper. Half never vote for President. One hopes it is the same half." - Gore Vidal

      by sapper on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:31:17 AM PDT

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  •  A remarkable likeness (0+ / 0-)

    Considering that Cheney selected Bush's VP (himself), it's not much of a stretch to believe that Cheney influenced the selection of Palin, who seems to be his ideal heir apparent.  Loves guns, secrecy and unrestrained power, and strives to eliminate critics.  Some "change"!

  •  Listen closely. We don't need a Dem team... (3+ / 0-)
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    scrutinizer, sapper, here4tehbeer Juneau or Anchorage or wherever.  We need 527s and the Obama campaign itself to state the obvious: Palin acted criminally, and her current strategy is further evidence of her guilt.  Even without her obstructionism this inquiry would drag on forever, and any criminal proceedings would last even longer.  McCain/Palin are giving us a gift with their strategy: they are forfeiting any actual defense, and they are handing us the absolute moral and political right to pronounce her guilty of everything she has been accused of.  She has, politically, taken an Alford plea.

    -5.38/-3.74 I've suffered for my country. Now it's your turn! --John McCain with apologies to Monty Python's "Protest Song"

    by Rich in PA on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:27:08 AM PDT

    •  PLEEASE: NO dem team in AK. BETTER IN MICH. (1+ / 0-)
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      Rich in PA

      Where the possible federal election tampering might sway a federal election. National dems have the heads up on this. They remember well that Rebups got the jump on them in Florida. They better anyway.

      Contesting bullshit voter fraud claims in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Ohio will prove more fruit in November than some obstruction crap in Alaska.

      Noting the condition the repubs are in right now, whose to say Palin still on the ticket come late october would be a bad thing?

      Alaska as it always is, is a red state, and a red herring.

      "Half of the American people never read a newspaper. Half never vote for President. One hopes it is the same half." - Gore Vidal

      by sapper on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:34:30 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Democrats - focus on the "4 more years" mantra (0+ / 0-)
    This can just be bundled into "4 more years", "more of the same", keep the drumbeat and the mantra going.  It fits right into the George Bush playbook.  Add it to the laundry list.  And make sure EVERYONE is putting out there.
  •  Time for a Sternly Worded Letter! n/t (0+ / 0-)

    With leaders like Bush and Pelosi, who needs enemies?

    by SpiffPeters on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:34:32 AM PDT

  •  I don't know why Palin is stalling. (0+ / 0-)

    She obviously did nothing wrong and will soon be vindicated.  She didn't fire the public safety commissioner as part of a personal vendetta.  She fired him because he went after federal funding to fight Alaska's epidemic of sexual violence -- a move she opposed.

    Big spending liberals just don't get it.  Palin is opposed to government sticking its nose into every minor she-said-no-his-knife-said-yes thing.  After the government gets drowned in the bathtub, nobody's going to be around to protect provocatively dressed women as they wander about all willy-nilly in their SUVs.  They'll have to learn to stay in their heavily guarded compounds or take responsibility for the consequences!  Might as well get used to it now, ladies.  No rape kits for you!

    They have not done these awful things because they are bad conservatives; they have done them because they are good conservatives. -- Thomas Frank

    by sagra on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:40:37 AM PDT

  •  the other really odd thing about the presentation (0+ / 0-)

    that the McCain spokepeople did was they had this big profession chart with headshots of the people involved with arrows and things between them.  It was the most ridiculous rollout of a dud product. It was like what lawyers do in big TV trials to make their case.  My thought at the time was that the presentation waqsn't for Alaskans but for the press or US public who haven't been following her previous stories about the firing.

    I don't see a roll here anyone in the National Democratic party, but I do see one for local Dems and Independents. That would be a Recall petition.

    The  fact is Palin was elected governor with a plurality not a majority & there are more voters who voted against Palin than for, so there are plenty of people who would sign such a petition.

  •  Hey, Alaska. Impeach Palin (0+ / 0-)

    Of course the down side to impeaching her and removing her as governor means she could devote all her time lying for McCain.

    "Never have so few taken so much from so many for so long."

    by londubh on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:42:49 AM PDT

  •  Must be some unflattering emails... (0+ / 0-)
    ... in the bunch.  Cant wait to read them.
  •  There they go again... (0+ / 0-)
    Here comes the new boss, just like the old boss.

    Had enough? Vote Democratic.

  •  They keep pulling Cheneys (0+ / 0-)
    because it keeps working for them. Until we slam their ass hard on it, they'll keep doing it, too.
    Why shouldn't they? It keeps working.
  •  F'ING write these media contacts and complain.... (1+ / 0-)
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    When will they report and print the Truth?
    When did the age old honor of the Press give way to such tapioca reporting?
    Tell them we want real Interviews with McCain?Palin - ENOUGH of this BS!!!!
    KOs - you have such great writers.... I am afraid everytime I open my mouth or write I alienate the middle....
    Someone please write a DEMAND letter to get real coverage?!!!
    Would that be enough - maybe if all of us who comment here forwarded such letters to these "Reporters" and keepers of our most Precious Right - speech and a free press....
    I didn't check but are the owners of these news outlets on this contact list.... would they care if ratings dropped?

    here are contacts from The Free Speech Zone:

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    •  I write crap (1+ / 0-)
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      geez when I get emotional I get twisted... someone want to jump in and be elequent and write a protest to the media?


      Today I am utterly frustrated as an American.

      One of the freedoms I hold so dear in this country is Freedom of the Press.

      As a child I reveled in the discussions at our kitchen table about the courage and conviction of the press.

      The Press.... in my family it was our heartbeat, our voice.

      Where is that courageous band of thinkers and reporters?

      How can you tolerate our Government officials ignoring subpoenas?

      How can you tolerate a candidate refusing to give open and honest interviews?

      How can you tolerate the absence of truth?

      My God please deepen your coverage and hit hard... this kind of flagrant disregard for the voting public – by the McCain/Palin is absolutely killing any glimmer of hope I have had this election year..

      Do you endorse a voting public that turns on anything less than accurate information on things that actually matter?  

      Help restore my faith the Constitution and the once noble profession reporters.

      Please help lift my despair and belief that you all think we are idiots!

      I will be canceling my cable service at the end of the week if you cannot raise your voice above the din of coins dropping into your boss’s pockets.

      Arizona voter  - you have my email which is my name please feel free to respond – better yet – jump down the throats of any politician or pundit who seeks to obscure or divert from obeying our laws and revealing truth.

  •  The more they resist . . . (0+ / 0-)

    . . . the guiltier they seem.

    by Little Rivkah on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 10:12:00 AM PDT

  •  So much for "change" (0+ / 0-)

    This, hopefully, will demonstrate to folks that McCain/Palin offer no change at all from the Bush/Cheney regime.

  •  Subpoena power? The Dems? (0+ / 0-)

    This is what happens when laws are not enforced. When Nancy Pelosi fails to exercise her obligation as Speaker and enforce the subpoena's the House (under her leadership) issues, she ends up encouraging others to break the law.

    It is very important for Progressive Democrats to remember that Karl Rove is free to advise McCain because he is not sitting in a jail cell in the basement of Congress for contempt. For that matter Neocons are still posing a very real threat to this country because Cheney and Bush were never put on trial for their crimes.

    Just wanted to say again... thanks Nancy Pelosi... you really suck.

  •  Vote for Change! (0+ / 0-)

    I'm one of the County Commissioner Candidates in Eugene, Oregon. I've been smothered by these white privileges!

    My white progressive "Mayor for all" and  "the progressive white Elected officials" are supporting the "white progressive candidate". One of the progressive white misogynist commissioners, called me up, informing me that I have to drop out of the Race. One of the reasons, he gave me was- "I'd like to be able to sit next to someone I like"-!?!

    Then, asked me to meet with him, Mr. Handy and his campaign manager at the Hilton for lunch in a closed door meeting!?! Mr. Handy's handlers are harassing intimidating any one who's supporting or trying to endorse me. Calling on the Muslim and Arab Community to have them, not supporting, endorsing, contributing, or even to write a letter to the editor on my behave! Other wise their nonprofit organizations status will be revoked!

    Salaam. nadia

    I'm running as a write in for Lane County Commissioner: Because I was cheated in the primary. My name was not on the ballots!?! it happened under the watch of "Mayor for all" & the "progressive" elected officials.

    I'll appreciate your help, financial support, endorsement, VOTES.

    I am the Oregon Representative for:

    We will forget and forgive any judgment error that you make, but integrity mistakes are forever.
    -- David Cottrell

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