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I know by now we have seen a million references online and in the media about  Gov. Palin's email being hacked. It has been attributed to leftists and soon the Obama campaign. In looking at the pages on and the reaction from the McCain campaign, it's fairly evident that this was a fake. Why would they fake this? Well, any number of reasons.

  1. To elicit sympathy for Palin by having her privacy invaded.
  1. To throw hackers off the trail of her real personal account.
  1. A great excuse as to why she cannot produce emails in regards to troopergate. If the evidence is tainted or "erased" by hackers, she is safe.

Why do I think this? Follow me...

First, her email address appeared recently in an article as given by a memeber of the McCain campaign. Why would a campaign spokesperson give out a personal email? For people who are trained to give talking points responses, this would be one heck of a slip.

Secondly, In looking at the inbox, there are 174 messages in the inbox. I don't know about you, but I email a lot as well. Gov. Palin is described as living on her blackberry, and emaiing tons. My inbox has tons of emails in it, read and unread. They pile up, and if you look at the dates, she is receiving many many emails a day, which would leave 174 only a couple days worth.

Third, A Very small contact list for someone with that much time emaiing.

Finally, She is someone very into organization. If you haven't noticed from the specials on her (especially Sarah Palin: An American Woman on Fox News) she is big into organization. Wouldn't someone who needs to organize her life very carefully create folders in an email account to sort emails? If she didn't, then everything would jumble together, especially in an inbox so empty.

It just seems too convinent, and now she gets sympathy, as well as a great way to brush the troopergate investigation under the rug in regards to her personal emails. Don't fall for it, we are being set up as the bad guys here, with the goal of making Obama look bad. It's up to us to spread the word and make sure that doesn't happen.

Originally posted to kingdomemariner on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:06 PM PDT.

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    •  good idea to not take this bait. (4+ / 0-)


    •  Congratulations for being the first person (11+ / 0-)

      to get this correct.  

      Only 15 or so diaries on the topic of her email today, but you are the only one who sees this as the diversion to stop us from talking about the economy -- or Palin's dismal FAIL in her first town hall.

      It's up to US to win this election. Sign up for neighbor-to-neighbor now!

      by DaveV on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:10:43 PM PDT

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    •  When I heard about this that she was using (3+ / 0-)
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      zzyzx, wbr, oxon

      yahoo for her e-mail, I joked about it .. days ago .. that someone would break into her yahoo account.

      Given the Bush administration/campaign's previous 'problems with e-mail' it's a forgone conclusion her account was wiped clean the 2nd the news of her having these types of accounts hit the media at all.

      I really doubt this 'hack' is for real.

      [dons tin foil hat]
      The supposed hackers may be COINTELPRO types .. it's been mentioned in some of the geek forums months ago.

      People need to be VERY careful.

      We may be getting played, don't give Rove any rosin.

      John McLiar would rather lose his integrity than lose this election.

      by shpilk on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:22:27 PM PDT

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      •  Oh .. and here's the scuttlebutt from (3+ / 0-)
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        zzyzx, wbr, oxon

        wikileak dot org .. not wikileak*S* dot org

        Check it out .. 2nd article down, they talk specifically about some unusual aspects to the way the site is run.

        It may be a honeypot, designed specifically to entrap whistleblowers.

        Careful folks.
        Careful .. careful .. CAREFUL.

        John McLiar would rather lose his integrity than lose this election.

        by shpilk on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:25:57 PM PDT

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    •  way off-base (1+ / 0-)
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      1. The e-mail address that was hacked was NOT the same as the e-mail address accidentally made public by the campaign. This e-mail address was previously unknown.
      1. The information was first posted on 4chan's b. I don't know how much you know but rules 1 & 2 etc. This provenance alone is proof enough for me that the hack was authentic.

      I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.

      by Jacob Bartle on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:30:28 PM PDT

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      •  It's garbage, I'd wager. (1+ / 0-)
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        Either some punk kids having fun, or Rove trying to set up a diversion or sympathy for Caribou Barbie.

        Worst case, is a honeypot, used to sucker people into revealing real information '

        go to and see what they have to say about wikileak*s*.org

        John McLiar would rather lose his integrity than lose this election.

        by shpilk on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:56:01 PM PDT

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    •  The story behind the Palin e-mail hacking (2+ / 0-)
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      Simply Agrestic, Jacob Bartle

      I missed the original incident, but monitored the discussion and repostings afterward to see what I could learn about what had happened and who was responsible.

      There are several misconceptions and errors in most accounts of this story, including your post. Most significantly, the perpetrator(s) were not members of an infamous group of hackers. I don’t blame you for misunderstanding this, because in all the media coverage regarding the war with Scientology the media has completely failed to explain what Anonymous is.

      Anonymous is not exactly a group. It is people using the umbrella of a web discussion board for cover to be as offensive, funny, strange, or whatever as they want.

      Here’s the short version: there is a site called It is an image posting site based on a popular Japanese site. The site contains multiple boards, each of which is dedicated to a particular subject. The most notorious of these boards is called b. b is the board dedicated to random images. btards, as its denizens are called, are interested only in their own amusement. Their sense of humor runs the gamut from sick to cruel to merely strange. Lolcats, as made famous by, originated on b. A lot of memes start there. There is a lot of racist humor — pictures of excited and happy black people in proximity to fried chicken abound. There is a lot of pornography. Sometimes it’s child pornography, although posting that is moderator grounds for banning — no, it’s not a pedophile ring; btards post it because they think doing so is funny.

      4chan does not log participants. Most people don’t use or have usernames, and post instead as "Anonymous." And every so often, a number of b’s anonymous denizens decide to make somebody’s life hell. Sometimes it’s a random person who offends b’s sense of propriety. Sometimes it’s a forum dedicated to a serious topic. Sometimes it’s Scientology. And Tuesday, it was Sarah Palin. Or it would have been.

      Sarah Palin’s email account was hacked by one person. Not a group.

      This person read her emails, then posted the username and password on b. This happened at about 4 in the morning on Tuesday. The idea was that the sea of Anonymous btards would download the emails, upload porn, and cause all manner of mischief. Anonymous is not a group of hackers. Anonymous is more like gremlins. They are hyperactive adolescents in search of amusement and joy, which they often get by upsetting people and making messes. That’s what was happening here. Anonymous did not hack the account. A hacker tried to throw Sarah Palin to Anonymous. Not all of Anonymous was having it. One person threw a crowbar in the works. Other btards were displeased to miss a chance at the lulz. The moderators stepped in. The thread was deleted.

      Later, other individuals created threads reposting screencaps of emails and the inbox, and put together a collection of these files. All mentions of these were purged by the moderators. So then some bright btards decided to email what little stuff they had to the media.

      That’s pretty much it.

      This afternoon, in a thread that was later deleted, an individual claiming to be the original poster gave his account of what happened. I’ve attached screencaps. Here’s the text. The original poster used the name "rubico." The linked email address for the poster was

      This is what rubico said:

      rubico 09/17/08(Wed)12:57:22 No.85782652

      Hello, b as many of you might already know, last night sarah palin’s yahoo was "hacked" and caps were posted on b, i am the lurker who did it, and i would like to tell the story.

      In the past couple days news had come to light about palin using a yahoo mail account, it was in news stories and such, a thread was started full of newfags trying to do something that would not get this off the ground, for the next 2 hours the acct was locked from password recovery presumably from all this bullshit spamming.

      after the password recovery was reenabled, it took seriously 45 mins on wikipedia and google to find the info, Birthday? 15 seconds on wikipedia, zip code? well she had always been from wasilla, and it only has 2 zip codes (thanks online postal service!)

      the second was somewhat harder, the question was "where did you meet your spouse?" did some research, and apparently she had eloped with mister palin after college, if youll look on some of the screenshits that I took and other fellow anon have so graciously put on photobucket you will see the google search for "palin eloped" or some such in one of the tabs.

      I found out later though more research that they met at high school, so I did variations of that, high, high school, eventually hit on "Wasilla high" I promptly changed the password to popcorn and took a cold shower...

      >> rubico 09/17/08(Wed)12:58:04 No.85782727

      this is all verifiable if some anal btard wants to think Im a troll, and there isn’t any hard proof to the contrary, but anyone who had followed the thread from the beginning to the 404 will know I probably am not, the picture I posted this topic with is the same one as the original thread.

      I read though the emails... ALL OF THEM... before I posted, and what I concluded was anticlimactic, there was nothing there, nothing incriminating, nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped, all I saw was personal stuff, some clerical stuff from when she was governor.... And pictures of her family

      I then started a topic on b, peeps asked for pics or gtfo and I obliged, then it started to get big

      Earlier it was just some prank to me, I really wanted to get something incriminating which I was sure there would be, just like all of you anon out there that you think there was some missed opportunity of glory, well there WAS NOTHING, I read everything, every little blackberry confirmation... all the pictures, and there was nothing, and it finally set in, THIS internet was serious business, yes I was behind a proxy, only one, if this shit ever got to the FBI I was fucked, I panicked, i still wanted the stuff out there but I didn’t know how to rapidshit all that stuff, so I posted the pass on b, and then promptly deleted everything, and unplugged my internet and just sat there in a comatose state

      Then the white knight fucker came along, and did it in for everyone, I trusted b with that email password, I had gotten done what I could do well, then passed the torch , all to be let down by the douchebaggery, good job b, this is why we cant have nice things

      The "white knight fucker" was the btard who thought that going through Sarah Palin’s email wasn’t cool. He logged in, changed the password, and sent an email to a friend of Palin’s warning her and letting her know the new password. Unfortunately, he then posted a screenshot of this email to let the other btards know their fun was over. He failed to blank the password, and they all tried to log in and change the password — which tripped the automated Yahoo! freeze. Since then, the account has been deleted. "Rapidshit" refers to — i.e., rubico wanted to download the emails, put them into one file, and put that file up on rapidshare for btards and the world at large to download. But he panicked, or didn’t know how to download the emails, and so pawned that task off on Anonymous, which he didn’t realize wasn’t monolithic and in his favor.

      As Paul Harvey would say, "And now you know.... the rest of the story."

  •  Drudge is on this like white on... (3+ / 0-)
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    NotGeorgeWill, cmangin, CS in AZ

    the GOP convention.

    (I stole that from Jon Stewart)

    It's up to US to win this election. Sign up for neighbor-to-neighbor now!

    by DaveV on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:11:31 PM PDT

  •  The republicans arent smart enough to find /b/ (2+ / 0-)
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  •  Maybe she deleted . . . (0+ / 0-)

    all the emails connected to Troopergate?

    Isn't that what Bush Republicans do as a matter of habit?  (e.g. destroy the evidence trail when they get into trouble -- obstruct justice).

    What blows my mind is that a public official would be stupid enough to have an email account where the person conducts official business under an easily located name.

    As far as the media strategy goes -- I see your point.  I can see this story being overshadowed though by the market though on all but the Fake News Channel.  Unless there's something really compromising in the email who cares?  There are bigger issues to worry about right now.

  •  The man who invented the blackberry is always (1+ / 0-)
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    at her side.

    They will grasp at any topic but the economy....

    "So much time and so little to do. Wait a minute. Strike that. Reverse it."- Willie Wonka

    by crystal eyes on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:13:10 PM PDT

  •  Shades of LIEberman! (7+ / 0-)

    Joe accused Ned Lamont of the same thing...well, hacking his website.

    Birds of a feather...

    Support the Netroots Candidates! A VETO-PROOF majority in 2008!!!

    by InquisitiveRaven on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:14:52 PM PDT

  •  I agree .. (5+ / 0-)


    "This reeks potentially of a setup."

    John McLiar would rather lose his integrity than lose this election.

    by shpilk on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:15:15 PM PDT

  •  Sounds typical. I think you're right (3+ / 0-)
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    This reminds me of when they issued a press release about her daughter being pregnant, then got all indignant about the press reporting on her family.  Right.

    This does seem like a total setup. Right in line with their lying campaign style. And a total distraction, designed to reinforce the poor Sarah the Victim story that they are trying to create.

    Good call.

  •  O'Reilly is on it. (2+ / 0-)
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    jethropalerobber, DaveV

    He's calling the Attorney General, the FBI and the Justice Department to start their investigations and get interviewed by his royal highness immediately. In that fatuously ominous tone, he intoned that we'll all know what happened if this felony investigation doesn't happen. Oh, and I'm not sure, but I think he's looking for a lefty blogger death penalty, but that's probably just my ears bleeding from hearing his tirade.

    "I'm not a humanitarian. I'm a hell-raiser." Mother Jones

    by histopresto on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:19:13 PM PDT

  •  Maybe she has more than one e-mail. Don't you? (1+ / 0-)
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    Jacob Bartle

    I do.  It's a confirmed story, by the way, and has been for hours, so people can stop denying now.  It was old the first time this story was posted for people to doubt an organization that has nearly a 100% success rate (Wikileaks not Anonymous) in identifying this kind of stuff.

  •  Oldest trick in the Karl Rove playbook (8+ / 0-)

    Karl Rove playbook, chapter one. History: Close governor's race in 1986 in Texas. Rove worked for Bill Clements. The opponent was Mark White. Rove finds an electronic bug in his office. The media goes nuts and focuses on the bug rather than the debate a couple of nights later, where Clements was not expected to do well, and didn't. Clements wins the election. Evidence later points to Rove himself as the one who orchestrated the bugging of his own office, but game already over.

    Substitute Palin for Clements, hack for electronic bug, economic meltdown for debate.

  •  noise (0+ / 0-)

    There is no evidence that this was a plant by the McCain team or people friendly to him.  This is not getting any real airtime or played by by the McCain team.

    And noone knows if this is real or a haox.  Time will tell.

    "The only person sure of himself is the man who wishes to leave things as they are, and he dreams of an impossibility" -George M. Wrong.

    by statsone on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:36:11 PM PDT

  •  But it shows that she conducted state (1+ / 0-)
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    business on a personal, non-archived account, yes?  Which isn't legal.

    Unless she's really dumb...

    When employees and stock-holders aren't different people, I'll find something else to do.

    by oxon on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 10:16:11 PM PDT

  •  This feels like a trap or a misdirection ploy. (0+ / 0-)

    They've got a lot of fires to put out and not much else going for them other than distraction.

    It's the fascism, stupid!

    by lastman on Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 10:26:59 PM PDT

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