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We've heard Sarah Palin boast about "Telling Congress thanks, but no thanks!" on her Bridge to Nowhere even though she took the money, and then spent part of that money on The Road to Nowhere. Some reformer, huh? Well now another of her famous boasts is a natural gas pipeline she claims to have pushed though under her watch. Turns out, not so much.

Sarah Palin, the way she tells the story, makes it sound like no one could figure out how to get that gas from the North Slope fields to market until she came along, and she made it happen. The fact of the matter is that the previous Governor of Alaska had a deal almost completed with American oil companies to build a gas pipeline that would not have cost the tax payers a cent. Then Sarah Palin came along and tossed that deal out and made another with a foreign pipeline building company, TransCanada, that she would contribute 500 million of American tax payer money to. You already heard of "Privatisation of profit and socialization of loss", but this is "the socialization of the cost of doing business", something else these borrow and spend big business conservatives like Sarah Palin seem to be in love with.

Now it seems that Sarah's pipeline, which she makes sound like is already delivering gas, is going Nowhere. The main holdup now comes from Trans-Canada's attempt to build the pipeline through native land without their permission and with out compensation. So now the tribes are threatening to sue. Remember the legal mess Sarah Baracuda made for the city of Wasilla with her Hockey rink? A repeat of that is now predicted with the Baracuda's pipeline. Then to top it off, Sarah Baracuda's people show their contempt for native people by saying, "it is premature in the process to start consulting with Canadian Indians" and Alaska's top offial in charge of the pipeline calls the tribes' complaints to sue, "a commercial dance of the fireflies". Like all conservatives, it seems like this "Baracuda" can't do anything right.

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Originally posted to William Domingo on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 02:08 PM PDT.

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  •  Tip jar (3+ / 0-)
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    marina, KenBee, andrewj54

    McCain was for deregulating Wall Street before he was against it.

    by William Domingo on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 02:10:47 PM PDT

  •  well at least she now has a matched set to go (1+ / 0-)
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    William Domingo

    with the bridge and road.

    "The fundamentals of my economy are strong" ...John McCain

    by polticoscott on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 02:11:25 PM PDT

  •  CNN Exposes Palin's "Road To Nowhere" (2+ / 0-)
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    William Domingo, Roger Fox

    Here we are now Entertain us I feel stupid and contagious

    by Scarce on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 02:16:48 PM PDT

  •  Pipeline to Nowhere (2+ / 0-)
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    sxwarren, William Domingo

    scheduled to go to Nowhere Canada to supply gas to the incredibly polluting oil sands project.
     In addition:

    1.the gas will not go to consumers in the US or Canada

    1. The gas will also go to a new Compressed Natural Gas, CNG terminal in Alaska which will ship gas to asian markets.
    1. In some campaign moment, McCain was on tv saying that the pipeline, credit to Gov Moonbat, would go to provide "Clean energy to the lower 48"...which was a lie.

     Thanks for the update.

    (proud that I think that a couple of weeks ago I invented that..well....obvious knock on Governor Moonbat about the pipline , in a bunch of comments, heh)

    Obama: One Spouse, One House, One Car

    by KenBee on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 02:24:31 PM PDT

    •  Exactly right and needs to be out in the media. (3+ / 0-)
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      marina, William Domingo, KenBee

      While I'm not clear on the details of Murkowski's pipeline deal, IIRC it was a different route that would have supplied gas to the lower 48 (and perhaps have avoided Native American lands.

      Also, as I understand it, one of the first things Palin did as Governor was to propose and get passed legislation configured so that only one company, TransCanada, could legally qualify.

      The extraction of oil from tar sands is extremely energy intensive and might burn (I've heard) gas at something like three times the rate that it would be in heating homes and businesses across the northern tier of the continental US.  But the pipeline will provide gas to the tar sands project at a much lower cost (even amortizing the $30-something billion in construction costs) than what it's costing now, thus making the operation significantly more profitable.

      No one should be surprised by any of this, nor by the fact that the Legacy Media hasn't picked up on it.  Apparently there's no obvious illegality or easy to explain scandal in it (and no sex) so, y'know, why bother?

      Some folks prefer a map and finding their own route. Others need someone to tell them where to go.

      by sxwarren on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 02:53:28 PM PDT

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      •  gas to the lower 48 (2+ / 0-)
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        sxwarren, KenBee

        I based this diary on the Newsweek article, but in past articles I've read and I would have to hunt for said that the TransCanada route will not reach the lower 48. And I believe you're right from what I remember reading, and agian I'd have to look it up, the Murkowski pipeline deal would have.

        McCain was for deregulating Wall Street before he was against it.

        by William Domingo on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 03:04:09 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  Correct Ken, the ALberta tar sands project (1+ / 0-)
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      KenBee

      There are 3 pipeline routes, one goes offshore from Prudhoe BAy to the Mackenzie River Valley, travels south thru the valley to ALberta.

      This route linked below follows the TAP and then cuts east to ALberta

      http://www.flickr.com/...

      While the 3rd route (Denali)just follows the TAP to Valdez.

      Good to see you sir, how are you ?

      FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

      by Roger Fox on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 03:08:41 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  still verticle and don't smell too badly yet (0+ / 0-)

        and yerself?

         There was a story about the fusion thingie I pinged you about here a while ago...currently reading Dan Brown's Angles and Demons, which features antimatter and the super collider etc.
         A quick read, heh.
        ......................................

        William Domingo:There were a few diaries about this pipeline in past weeks, Meteor Blades wrote one on the FP maybe, check the tags...keep it up...

        Obama: One Spouse, One House, One Car

        by KenBee on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 06:11:30 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  I remember.. (0+ / 0-)

        the 'Discover' magazine has an article about fusion, you've seen it no doubt.

        Obama: One Spouse, One House, One Car

        by KenBee on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 10:34:25 PM PDT

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  •  The lower 48 will pay the cost, BUT (2+ / 0-)
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    sxwarren, William Domingo

    will recieve no benifits.

    The pipe line is planned to go to Canada, no where near any pipes that would bring the gas to the lower 48.

    The gas is intended for the international market.

    Tell me again why Alaska does not pay Income Tax??

    The 50 million is non refundable, and just for land speculation to see if the pipeline is even fesible.
    It is projected to harm Native American hunting and fishing land.  The Native Americans are p---ed.

    •  No the gas would feed the ALberta tar sands (0+ / 0-)

      project being run by TranCanada, the same company that wants to build the Mackenzie River VAlley pipeline route.

      FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

      by Roger Fox on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 03:19:57 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  I trust Biden knows all the facts regarding the (0+ / 0-)

    pipeline lie.

    Im sure he knows its a lie, because everything that comes out of Palins mouth is a lie.

    I used to be a devout Christian until I realized that I didnt meet all the qualifications to be a christian.

    I suck at lying.

  •  It is really a Pipeline to Doom (3+ / 0-)
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    marina, William Domingo, sovery

    A couple of weeks ago I wrote a Diary about the scandal and climate change acceleration machine also know as Sarah Palin’s Pipeline to Doom (ALERT: Palin’s Pipeline is a Climate Crisis Acceleration Machine).  Since then I’ve been spending my free time digging into the details of this story and almost nothing that Sarah Palin, John McCain or any of their sycophants have said about this pipeline and Palin’s "energy" record has been true. Really, it is all bullshit designed to keep your eyes off of the billions of gallons of oil embedded in the Alberta Tar Sands.

    Perhaps an annotated map will help:

    Pipeline to Doom Graphic

    I'll have another Diary  out about this soon.

    Cheers

    Time to clean up DeLay's petri dish! Help CNMI guest workers find justice! Learn more at Unheard No More.

    by dengre on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 02:48:47 PM PDT

    •  Pipeline to Doom (0+ / 0-)

      But John McCain claims she's an "expert" on energy. One of the top "experts" on energy in the country in fack. /snark. This just looks like another fine mess she's made with the tax payers money.

      McCain was for deregulating Wall Street before he was against it.

      by William Domingo on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 03:10:43 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Shes works for TransCanada (0+ / 0-)

        That pipeline will feed the ALberta tar sands project, dont ya know

        FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

        by Roger Fox on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 03:12:01 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  will feed the Alberta tar sands project (0+ / 0-)

          Yes, it looks like that's what it's really meant for, not to help us down here in the lower 48, but news is now coming that the pipeline will be tied up in court "for years" (just like her hockey rink was) and may never get built.

          McCain was for deregulating Wall Street before he was against it.

          by William Domingo on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 03:22:19 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

    •  I hope the diary mentions the ALberta tar sands (0+ / 0-)

      other wise I would consider dissing your diary.

      FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

      by Roger Fox on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 03:10:51 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  How does that work? (0+ / 0-)

      Boundary Lake is on the Alberta-BC border.  The Athabasca tar sands projects are near the Alberta-Saskatchewan border, about 400 miles away.

      Alaska natural gas can't feasibly feed the bitumen-separation plants in the 'sands projects unless they're connected to the existing TransCanada pipe network, or if a trans-Alberta pipeline is built specifically for that purpose.  The TransCanada Pipelines website seems to sell the proposed pipeline's connection to the existing network as a 'feature.'

      The concerns about native rights are not just in Alberta, either.  First Nations in the Yukon, British Columbia and Alberta all will likely have a say in whether such a project goes ahead;  and rightly so.  But if you want a reference as to how complicated that could be, just look at the Mackenzie Valley Pipeline Inquiry, done during the mid-70s.

      And just to be a stickler on the technical parts here -- the tar sands projects don't extract oil.  They extract raw bitumen, most of which is then shipped to the United States for upgrading and processing into useful fuel and petrochemicals.  That's done at facilities like the BP Whiting refinery near Chicago, and the ConocoPhillips plant near Billings, Montana.

      •  I was wrong... (0+ / 0-)

        They extract raw bitumen, most of which is then shipped to the United States for upgrading and processing into useful fuel and petrochemicals.

        This is incorrect;  around 30% is actually exported to the United States, not 'most.'  Unfortunately, I had read my source for that incorrectly.

        My mistake.

  •  Just Hold on (1+ / 0-)
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    marina

    There are 3 competing routes, the Denali route, the Mackenzie River Vally route and a 3rd route that starts to follow the TAP, then cuts east to Alberta.

    All but the Denali route will funnel Nat gas to the ALberta tar sands project. Not to the Lower 48. The Denali route follows the Trans Alaskan Pipeline & ends at Valdez, on the southern shore of Alaska.

    Now that you know who will be getting the nat gas you can look to who is paying off Sarah Palin.

    The Denali route can feed LNG tankers that can head to California... the other 2 are in the interest of Canada, and the tar sands project. RE: Transcanada.

    FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

    by Roger Fox on Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 03:03:18 PM PDT

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