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Obama Responds

Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 12:32:44 PM PDT

Barack Obama recently responded to the controversy in the African American community regarding Hillary Clinton's comments about Martin Luther King.  After the tone of the Democratic primary race has gotten a bit compromised over the past week, and threatened to go in a direction none of us would like to see, Obama's statement helps push us back towards the straightforward yet fair tone we would hope to see in a contentious yet civil campaign:

From a speech accepting the endorsement of Claire McCaskill:

What we saw this morning is why the American people are tired of Washington politicians and the games they play. But Sen. Clinton made an unfortunate remark, an ill advised remark, about King and Lyndon Johnson. I didn’t make the statement. I haven’t remarked on it, and she I think offended some folks who felt that somehow diminished King’s role in bringing about the Civil Rights Act. She is free to explain that, but the notion that somehow this is our doing is ludicrous.

I have to point out that instead of telling the American people about her positive vision for America, Sen. Clinton spent an hour talking about me and my record in a way that was flat-out wrong. She suggested that I didn’t clearly and unambiguously oppose the war in Iraq when it is absolutely clear and anyone who has followed this knows that I did. I stood up against the war when she was voting for it, at a time when she didn’t read the intelligence reports or give diplomacy a chance. She belittled the most sweeping ethics reform since Watergate despite the fact that she stood on the sidelines during that negotiations on that bill.

I have to say that she started this campaign saying that she wanted to make history and lately she has been spending a lot of time rewriting it. I know that in Washington it is acceptable to say or do anything it takes to get elected, but I really don’t think that is the kind of politics that is good for our party, and I don’t think it is good for our country, and I think that the American people will reject it in this election.

What I want to do is spend talking about how we are going to make sure that people who are losing their jobs get work. How are we going to make sure that our young people are going to afford college? How are we going to make sure that the subprime lending crisis does not lead to an all-out recession? How are we going to create the kind of foreign policy that allows us to bring our troops home and makes us safer and goes after a genuine terrorist threat? Those are the issues that we are going to spend time talking about in this campaign and if Sen. Clinton wants to be distracted by the sorts of political point scoring that was evident today then that is going to be her prerogative.

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  •  Tips (39+ / 0-)

    for again reminding us that the only way to truly verbally obliterate an adversary is to not to be a jerk, while remaining straight-forward, honest, and unfaltering.  I hope whoever our nominee is takes such an approach against the Republicans this fall.

    Obama/McCaskill vs. McCain/Jindal? Call it a funny feeling.

    by ShadowSD on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 12:36:13 PM PDT

    •  Obama ask questions Edwards gives answers. (0+ / 0-)

      What I want to do is spend talking about how we are going to make sure that people who are losing their jobs get work. How are we going to make sure that our young people are going to afford college? How are we going to make sure that the subprime lending crisis does not lead to an all-out recession? How are we going to create the kind of foreign policy that allows us to bring our troops home and makes us safer and goes after a genuine terrorist threat?

      Answers to Obama's questions.

      •  With all due respect (10+ / 0-)

        Obama, Edwards, and Clinton have all said those things, so I don't see what this has to do with anything.

        What's more, your whole criticism about Obama using rhetorical questions as a device to address the issues kind of falls apart when THREE of the four sentences you just quoted by Edwards ARE QUESTIONS.

        It's such a dumb oversight that I'm inclined to think your post is a joke.

        Except, sadly, I know better.

        Obama/McCaskill vs. McCain/Jindal? Call it a funny feeling.

        by ShadowSD on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 12:44:52 PM PDT

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        •  Not so fast there sneaky (2+ / 0-)

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          averageyoungman, Burned

          Edwards has been pushing the agenda, leading. Obama and Clinton have been following along.

          And umm, jokes on you

          your whole criticism about Obama using rhetorical questions as a device to address the issues kind of falls apart when THREE of the four sentences you just quoted by Edwards ARE QUESTIONS.

          What I quoted was from the Obama press release, strait from the diary.  They are not Edwards quotes they are OBAMA quotes.

          You so funny =)

          •  OK, so if I find quotes of Edwards asking (2+ / 0-)

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            oscarsmom, leonard145b

            rhetorical questions, then I win?

            Obviously I can, because Edwards asks rhetorical questions as a device in speeches, as does Clinton, as do many lawyers, politicians, and public speakers.  

            My misidentification of your quotation does not change the fact that this remains a stupid argument having absolutely nothing to do with the subject of this diary.

            Obama/McCaskill vs. McCain/Jindal? Call it a funny feeling.

            by ShadowSD on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 12:54:14 PM PDT

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            •  Obviously you can, but you didn't (0+ / 0-)

              even so, you wouldn't win since Edwards came out with detailed plans well before both Clinton or Obama.

              And Obama's plans are the weakest of them all.

              This only matters if your voting on issues though. On personality Obama would make a great Republican president.

              •  I can't believe you're actually trying to argue (1+ / 0-)

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                leonard145b

                that Edwards never asks rhetorical questions when you know that is a lie (unless you've been asleep during the debates and Edwards speeches, despite supporting him).

                Please stop hijacking this diary.

                Obama/McCaskill vs. McCain/Jindal? Call it a funny feeling.

                by ShadowSD on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 01:01:20 PM PDT

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                •  LOL your funny. (0+ / 0-)

                  I don't remember ever argued that. In fact the only thing I said on the subject was

                  "Obviously you can"

                  Ill try to be clear for you, you seem to be slow, I'm saying that Obama ONLY Asks rhetorical questions and doesn't have answers to them.

                  Where as Edwards who may from time to time use questions as a rhetorical device, actually has answers to them.

                  How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?

                  Obama "the world may never know"
                  Edwards "Three"

          •  The joke is on the commenter (1+ / 0-)

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            GunLovinDem

            AND the people that reacted by recommending it without reading.

      •  Edwards giving answers (5+ / 0-)

        On why we invaded:

        Almost no one disagrees with these basic facts: that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a menace; that he has weapons of mass destruction and that he is doing everything in his power to get nuclear weapons; that he has supported terrorists; that he is a grave threat to the region, to vital allies like Israel, and to the United States; and that he is thwarting the will of the international community and undermining the United Nations' credibility

        This was his stance prewar. I bet you wish he was asking questions back then, huh?

        •  Yup, you are right, Bush tricked him (1+ / 0-)

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          dfarrah

          But once he learned his lesson he apologized and started voting the right way.

          Obama on the other hand, voted yes over and over and over KNOWING it was wrong.

          Obama = Good judgment in theory, Poor performance in practice.

          •  Edwards only gets hurt in an Iraq comparison (2+ / 0-)

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            steveGA, oscarsmom

            with Obama, if the last year of campaigning is any issue.

            Edwards shines the most when he talks about the economy.  Iraq is not where you want to go, because you're never going to convince any sane objective person that authorizing a war is secondary to funding it; there are theoretically reasons to fund troops in a war one does not believe in, whether you agree with those reasons or not, but there simply is no plausible reason to co-sponsor a war resolution for a war one does not believe in.  None.

            Accept logic and move on.

            Obama/McCaskill vs. McCain/Jindal? Call it a funny feeling.

            by ShadowSD on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 12:59:29 PM PDT

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            •  At the time Edwards belived in it. (0+ / 0-)

              Edwards rhetoric matches his actions. When he says something you can believe it.

              Obama not so much.

              Your logic failed when you changed the facts to fit your belief. Who does that? REthugs.

              Obama would make a great Republican president.

              •  Edwards makes mistakes (1+ / 0-)

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                ShadowSD

                Apologies are good but not making such a horrendous mistake is better.

                Lately he has practicly told his supporters that obama is a better choice than Hillary.  And his supporters keep missing his point.  

                Don't let Hill win.  That would be making a horrendous mistake

                "Obama. He's redefining what a politician is... take the best from the past, leave the worst back there and go forward into the future " Bob Dylan

                by SmithsLastWord on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 01:20:29 PM PDT

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          •  Bush tricked him into not reading the Intel? n/t (2+ / 0-)

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            steveGA, ShadowSD
          •  Bush tricked him? And it took him 3 years to (1+ / 0-)

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            ShadowSD

            figure that out?  If that's true, isn't it kind of embarassing?

  •  Sadly, the Nevada Caucus results will be (4+ / 0-)

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    askew, landrew, ZinZen, Stroszek

    decided in court tomorrow, not at the caucuses on Saturday.

    Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities.

    - Albert Einstein

    by Walt starr on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 12:37:51 PM PDT

  •  Classy response from Obama. (2+ / 0-)

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    burrow owl, Runs With Scissors

    And smart, although I disagree with his characterization of Hillary's remarks. It was hard-hitting and stayed above the fray. Too bad the Obamabots won't learn anything from it.

    "Troll-be-gone...apply directly to the asshole. Troll-be-gone...apply directly to the asshole."

    by homogenius on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 12:42:22 PM PDT

  •  another Hillary backer plays the "drug" card (8+ / 0-)

    getting her cronies to do her dirty work!
    this keeps getting better and better!

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/...

    He then added: "And to me, as an African-American, I am frankly insulted that the Obama campaign would imply that we are so stupid that we would think Hillary and Bill Clinton, who have been deeply and emotionally involved in black issues since Barack Obama was doing something in the neighborhood –­ and I won’t say what he was doing, but he said it in the book –­ when they have been involved."
    Moments later, he added: "That kind of campaign behavior does not resonate with me, for a guy who says, ‘I want to be a reasonable, likable, Sidney Poitier ‘Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner.’ And I’m thinking, I’m thinking to myself, this ain’t a movie, Sidney. This is real life."

    After Obama's eighth straight victory, Penn told reporters: "Winning Democratic primaries is not a qualification or a sign of who can win the general election.

    by nevadadem on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 12:43:04 PM PDT

  •  Nice diary. (4+ / 0-)

    Simple.  Positive.  No analogies comparing candidates you don't support to off-the-wall things.  No name calling.  Just a positive endorsement of one candidate.  Well done.

    "The World Is My Country, All Mankind Are My Brethren, And To Do Good Is My Religion." - Thomas Paine

    by xph on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 12:43:54 PM PDT

  •  Now I wish he would respond to (1+ / 0-)

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    ShadowSD

    these anti-choice allegations, which to the uneducated ear are worrisome.  Perhaps he should delegate someone like McCaskill to point out the truth of his record.

    Never give up! Never surrender!

    by oscarsmom on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 01:23:10 PM PDT

  •   A Clintons Presidency would be (0+ / 0-)

    better than a continuation of the war by McCain.  We know she is more conservative than we like.  we won't be going into any possible Clinton Presidency with blinders on.  and we can give her hell the way the right did till we get what they got - carrte blanche on policy.  Tringulate this Ms Clinton - we may vote for you in the general but many of these thorns your policies and tactics create won't go away after the general.  You want to be a centerist fine - Expect hell from the left next time as well as the right.  They sure got what they wanted - NAFTA and welfare (child endangerment) reform.  We will be louder and more demanding and our Representatives in the majority of congress.  

    "Obama. He's redefining what a politician is... take the best from the past, leave the worst back there and go forward into the future " Bob Dylan

    by SmithsLastWord on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 01:30:07 PM PDT

  •  Nice. (2+ / 0-)

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    oldjohnbrown, ShadowSD

    I have to say that she started this campaign saying that she wanted to make history and lately she has been spending a lot of time rewriting it.

    We have been seeing this happen for the last 7 years--I don't want another 4 years of this crap.

    I want to be able to believe that the president is telling the truth--that has been impossible under bush and it will continue under HRC.

    Tom Daschle: "John McCain has George Bush policies, a Karl Rove campaign, and a Dick Cheney attitude".

    by Azdak on Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 01:56:43 PM PDT

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