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BREAKING: Ron Paul's Klansman Kampaign Koordinator

Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 04:36:42 PM PDT

As voters in Michigan go to the polls to vote in today's primary, volunteer coordinators for the Republican and Democratic presidential candidates are working hard across the state. One of these is Randy Gray, a 29-year-old resident of Midland, Michigan whom the Ron Paul 2008 Michigan Campaign Web site lists as the Midland County coordinator for the Ron Paul campaign. Gray's campaign profile page, a cached version of which can be seen here, doesn't go into much detail; there's a picture of Gray with the candidate, along with Gray's statement that "I support Ron Paul because he is in the fight for freedom." The page contains no mention of one of Gray's other roles: organizer with the Knight's Party faction of the Ku Klux Klan.

Media Mouse, which bills itself as "Grand Rapids News & Independent Media," profiled Gray in July of last year prior to a white supremacist event in Kalamazoo at which Gray was scheduled to speak. Media Mouse learned that Gray's white supremacist activities are longstanding and widespread:

Randy Gray is referenced in our Far Right in West Michigan Database due to a speech he delivered at the fiftieth anniversary of the Knight's Party faction of the Ku Klux Klan.... Since 2005, Gray has filed the paperwork necessary to air the program "This is the Klan" on Midland Community Television. The program, hosted by Thomas Robb and Rachel Pendergraft, is a thirty minute program designed primarily for viewing on the Internet....

Gray has attended various racist events with and without the Ku Klux Klan in recent years as well. He is quoted in a May 2004 article in the Tennessean in which the Ku Klux Klan planned a rally against a "Gay Day" event at the "Dollywood" theme park.... Gray was twice (1, 2) kicked out of city council meetings for protesting the city's permitting process in relation to a Klan protest against the Martin Luther King holiday.

Gray posts as "Central Michigan" at Stormfront, the large racist Web site run by infamous white nationalist (and enthusiastic Ron Paul supporter) Don Black.

Here's a photograph, by Clay Owen of the Knoxville News Sentinel, of Gray speaking at a white power rally in Knoxville, Tenn. on June 16, 2007, in the wake of the murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom:

Here's Gray with Ron Paul on michigan4ronpaul.com:

(The relationship between the Ron Paul 2008 Michigan Campaign Web site and the national Ron Paul campaign is unclear. "Official unofficial" state campaign Web sites that disclaim any affiliation with any national campaign are not uncommon--see Michigan for Huckabee and Michiganders for Obama, for example--but michigan4ronpaul.com seems to be more closely associated with the national campaign than those sites; despite its own disclaimer of affiliation, Leslie Roszman and Kerri Price, who run the site and moderate the forums, are listed as the national campaign's Michigan state coordinator and field coordinator respectively.)

Here's the latest video posted to YouTube by Gray, advocating a "Franklin 4 Franklin Ron Paul Money Bomb":

And here he is speaking at the Knoxville race rally:

Paul found himself in the midst of controversy last month when he refused to return a $500 donation from Stormfront's founder Don Black, a questionable decision that looks even worse in the light of last week's revelations about the racist, anti-gay writings in several issues of Paul's newsletter. It remains to be seen whether having an avowed member of the Ku Klux Klan as a county coordinator will finally spur Paul or his campaign to take action.

I called the national office of the Ron Paul campaign in Virginia this afternoon and asked if they had any response to these revelations; the individual I spoke to in the press office, who was not aware of Gray or his role in the Michigan organization, said that he would inquire about a statement and get back to me. I have not heard back as of yet. I will update this diary with additional information as necessary.

I am greatly indebted to Wayne Bertsch, freelance reporter for NUVO Newsweekly in Indianapolis, for tipping me off to this very significant story.

Tags: Ron Paul, Randy Gray, Ku Klux Klan, racism, 2008 Elections (all tags) :: Previous Tag Versions

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  •  Tips accepted here (40+ / 0-)

    I normally detest "BREAKING:" in the title of diaries, but I haven't seen this story reported anywhere yet, so maybe it's justified in this one case.

  •  Well, duh the white supremacists are the (1+ / 0-)

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    organizers. His Libertarian supporters are philosophically opposed to any sort of organization, cooperation or coordination. Their willy-nilly antics in New Hampshire quite possibly cost him 3rd place (almost definitely cost him 4th).

    By the way, R0n P4V1!

  •  this is offensive and I'm glad it's been (0+ / 0-)

    documented, but in all fairness to RP and his supporters (I am not one), I seriously doubt Paul or 99% of his supporters would condone this. Just saying.

    (Part of why I'm saying this is b/c I can well imagine a similar find turning up a violence-espousing anarchist or hardline communist or former black panther or member of earth first who volunteers for Kucinich or Gravel or some other Dem candidate, and the rightwingers attempting to have a field day with it).

    •  um (5+ / 0-)

      a klansman is featured on his Michigan website and is part of the campaign. If this happened to one of the D candidates, this would be a problem for me.

      John McCain, 100 years in Iraq "fine with me"

      by taylormattd on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 05:03:08 PM PDT

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      •  of course and it would be problem for me as well (0+ / 0-)

        but the guy appears to be a low-level volunteer and I doubt Paul himself has any idea who he is or that he's a klansman. Look, I'm not saying it's reflective of Paul's campaign that he attracts this element of far-right nuts, b/c it certainly is, but I actually think the articles the diarist links and aludes to are a far, far more damning case against Paul. B/c in this case I doubt anyone in the RP camapign wants guys like this out volunteering for them. So blaming RP personally (or for that matter most of RP's supporters) for this guy's presence on the campaign is a bit of a stretch. And no I'm not a RP supporter.

        •  That's why I called the campaign (0+ / 0-)

          and asked for a statement. That was a little under 2 hours ago and I haven't heard back yet. I figure they either (a) are shitting bricks, or (b) don't care.

          •  You go boy/girl/other! (0+ / 0-)

            I don't imagine you will get a reply any more satisfactory than Paul's refusal to return Stormfront's $$s, and steadfast insistence that the pixies wrote his newsletter hate-articles  for him in the nighttime when he left out milk n' cookies.

            White milk and cookies.

            -9.0, -8.3. History is more or less bunk.--Henry Ford
            Henry Ford is more or less bunk.--history

            by SensibleShoes on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 05:13:04 PM PDT

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          •  oh I'm sure they care (0+ / 0-)

            or at least hope they do, and again I'm not condoning this asshole in MI or even RP, but I am trying to add perspective: every candidate cannot be personally responsible for every single volunteer out campaigning for them. But yes it speaks volumes about who is attracted to RP (assuming he's not a plant to discredit Paul). That's all.

    •  You lump Earth First! (1+ / 0-)

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      in with the Klan and hardline communists?

      I'd rather be unhappy with President Obama than with President McCain.

      by kestrel9000 on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 05:08:43 PM PDT

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      •  no I don't but rightwingers would (1+ / 0-)

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        b/c they would claim EF are terrorists. That's all. I have no problem with an EF supporter supporting a D candidate, provided of course he or she does not espouse violence. Duh.

        •  Define "violence" (0+ / 0-)

          I define "violence" as clearcutting a stand of 900-year-old redwoods to make toilet paper and toothpicks - or anything else.
          (I do get your point, though.)
          If you drive three spikes into such a tree, countersink them so they are impossiple to extract, and mark them with flourescent paint, is that "violence"?
          If a lumber company plants a bomb in the car of two activists and the FBI tries to say, after thy were damn near killed, that they were transporting a bomb to be used in an atack despite any evidence to back that up, is that "violence?"

          I'd rather be unhappy with President Obama than with President McCain.

          by kestrel9000 on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 05:24:34 PM PDT

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          •  just to ensure you do get my point (3+ / 0-)

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            I'm personally sympathetic w/EF, but I'm also aware that a Dem campaign could be theoretically partially derailed if a Ward Churchill-firebrand-type or unibomber-type far-lefter with a criminal record for threatening timber executives were revealed to be a volunteer on one of the Dem candidate campaigns. The right would attempt to make hay out of it.

            My point here is that candidates are not personally responsible for vetting each and every low-level volunteer who campaigns for them, and I suspect RP and his PR folks are as alarmed by this dairy as we are.

            We get into a slippery realm when we start damning a candidate b/c of every last nut who supports him or her.

            This racist in MI is indeed reflective of a disturbing strain (assuming he's not been planted to discredit Paul) among RP's followers, but it's a bit of a stretch to say Paul will or would personally condone having Klansmen campaigning for him. Of course I could be wrong, and it's possible RP is himself a David Duke who's purposely hidden his real agenda. Certainly the biggest argument against Paul are the links in the diary to his the text in his newsletters from the 1990s.

  •  this is a smoking gun. (1+ / 0-)

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    the 1992 articles, with the laughable denials, are just old bullets... THIS undermines the entire credibility of Ron Paul's candidacy. That is, for the few remaining morons who support him.

    It's not a campaign. It's a movement. Will you stand up?

    by danthrax on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 04:55:46 PM PDT

    •  there's a lot more to the story now than the 1992 (1+ / 0-)

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      newsletters -- the National Review reporter who wrote last week's "Angry White Man" story that phenry diaried went and researched "decades worth" of Ron Paul newsletters spouting bigotry and ignorance in archives at the University of Kansas and Wisconsin Historical Society.

      This wasn't just a few stories in 1992, by a writer who got fired, but "decades worth of obsession with conspiracies, sympathy for the right-wing militia movement, and deeply held bigotry against blacks, Jews, and gays."

      Paul doesn't deny it -- he just claims he didn't know what what in these newsletters, he says this is "old news" and that "For over a decade, I have publically taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name."

    •  Hillary and Bush = same (0+ / 0-)

      Ron Paul has never uttered a bad word.
      This undermines NOTHING.
      You are dreaming if you think this 'means' anything. LOL

      Hillary is getting her foreign policy ideas from Bush 41, who travels with Bubba.

      Ron Paul is the only person who is his OWN PERSON.
      And we thank god for that.

      Who the hell even knows this guy? No one cares.

  •  Thank you! (3+ / 0-)

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    I just sent this on to a friend who doesn't believe that Ron Paul is really a racist.

    •  NH (0+ / 0-)

      I'm sure your friend is not going to care.
      People who know Ron Paul like we do, know that it's your sour grapes for his deeply committed supporters that is causing this.

      There is far more dirt to dig up on other candidates, which you seem to ignore in your quest for a fake charge against RP.

  •  Sigh. I keep telling people and telling people (2+ / 0-)

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    thanks for keeping this story up and running. People who think they support Ron Paul need to acknowledge what he really "stands for".

    -9.0, -8.3. History is more or less bunk.--Henry Ford
    Henry Ford is more or less bunk.--history

    by SensibleShoes on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 05:01:57 PM PDT

  •  good sleuthing (2+ / 0-)

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    Not surprising what kinds of scum and villainy are attracted to Paul.

    •  never will you never find (5+ / 0-)

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      a more wretched hive

      John McCain, 100 years in Iraq "fine with me"

      by taylormattd on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 05:16:43 PM PDT

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      •  I met a RP supporter a month or so ago (0+ / 0-)

        and he was a mild-mannered computer programmer with a Libertarian streak (he read alot of Ayn Rand). I have always disliked Libertarian politics, but most of the Libertarians I've met have in the main been naive and earnest sorts: far less odious to me than those who are mainline Republican types. And I doubt most RP supporters are raving Klansmen. But obviously a few are.

        •  Aww, software programmers don't get out much (1+ / 0-)

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          and they play lots of video games.

          And they make a lot of money for what they do and lack tax write-offs so the IRS takes a big bite out of their income. so they're mad and willing to follow the Pied Piper who rants about taxes.

          They throw money bombs and ignore the rest, which couldn't possibly be true. After all, Dr. Paul is so gentle and sooo-o nice.

          Hey this is delicious Kool Aid !! and doctor paul doesn't have a racist bone in his body.


          Wynton Marsalis:"Blues never lets tragedy have the last word."

          by skywriter on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 05:33:04 PM PDT

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          •  people are hungry for change (1+ / 0-)

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            some of those on the right and Libertarian side are leaning towards Ron Paul, who is this year's Pat Buchanan or Ross Perot. Some on the left and green and socialist/anarchist side are leaning towards Kucinich and/or Gravel (this year's Nader). And most are verging towards the corporatist center (HRC and McCain, respectively). As progressives, we do a disservice to ourselves for failing to see that there may be some libertarian-RP types who would vote Dem over Repub this year. I think a lot of RP supporters might end up voting Dem.

        •  Sounds like (0+ / 0-)

          my bf from high school!

          I'd rather be unhappy with President Obama than with President McCain.

          by kestrel9000 on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 05:38:32 PM PDT

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        •  I was just (0+ / 0-)

          quoting Star Wars.

          John McCain, 100 years in Iraq "fine with me"

          by taylormattd on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 06:00:33 PM PDT

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        •  both type (libertarian & klansmen) support rp (0+ / 0-)

          the libertarians throw the money bombs. the klansmen are behind the curtain. the libertarian software engineers deny and or are unconcerned with his support from the American Socialist Workers (Nazi) Party, stormfront.org and other similar ilk.

          Wynton Marsalis:"Blues never lets tragedy have the last word."

          by skywriter on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 08:00:31 PM PDT

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        •  NH (0+ / 0-)

          I don't give a shit who is a raving anything. They have a right to vote so long as they are not breaking any laws or hurting anyone.

          Until the standard is applied to every candidate to rout out ALL their supporters (something that would be reminiscent of Nazi Germany) then this whole attack doesn't hold water.

          KOS posters are like Nazis, unforunately. Look at your scum in the mirror.

    •  NH (0+ / 0-)

      I'd say there is more scum and villainy that is present on Kos...
      Not one peep about Obama and Hillary proves it.

  •  The real problem is (0+ / 0-)

    that the corporatist republicans won't realize that they are just as fascist as the KKK. Just replace the Blacks, Jews, and Catholics with everyone with a net worth less that a few hundred million dollars.

    •  NH (0+ / 0-)

      It's the posters here at KOS making an issue of this who would rout out every candidates' supporters who are the ones acting like Nazis. You are the ones who are a threat to liberty.

      That is why you hate Paul. You are all control freaks who want to scrutinize everyone and interrogate them on their beliefs, so you can 'correct' them if you deem those beliefs unlike YOURS.

      KOS posters are very scary lot indeed. Where is your swastika? You've certainly earned it.

  •  Does anybody know his address? (0+ / 0-)

    I live in Midland...  I would like to know where scum like this live.  There's a crazy Ron Paul house in my neighborhood and am wondering if it's him.

    John McCain defends Bush's Iraq strategy.

    by recusancy on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 05:28:11 PM PDT

  •  Ron Paul has absolutely no idea how this happened (1+ / 0-)

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    And he has no idea how a newsletter was published and mailed for ten years from his congressional district with the distinctive title  

    The Ron Paul Newsletter

    though sometimes to throw the suvivalists a bone, it was published as recently as 1993 as

    The Ron Paul Survivalist Newsletter

    Any of you who claim Ron Paul had anything to do with that newsletter just don't know him. He is affable and he even liked MLK and Rosa Parks. Libertarians couldn't possibly be racist. He even said so himself, and ya gotta believe the Pied Piper, right?

    And those of you who claim he leads a cult, well... that's silly.

    Would you like some refreshing Kool Aid?


    Wynton Marsalis:"Blues never lets tragedy have the last word."

    by skywriter on Tue Jan 15, 2008 at 05:28:17 PM PDT

    •  the only living Senator (1+ / 0-)

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      to have been a Klansman is Robert Byrd, a Dem who I admire very much. Of course he was in the KKK before WW2 and has renounced it all for a long time now. And he's been a real rare voice of sanity among Dems for arguing against the Bush agenda.

      I don't support RP, but it also seems clear he's not going to win the R nomination (he's not poling well). I do think we as Dems have more hcance of getting votes from RP supporters than we do from any supporters of the other R candidates, so I think it might mak more sense to ouline the places where a Paul-type or a Buchanan-type might support a Dem: Iraq for instance. The one thing about Paul, who I do not support, is he is more outspoken against the Iraq war than all the other R candidates (and arguably even more so than the top two Dem candidates). So we might get some spillover. Just saying.

    •  NH (0+ / 0-)

      Most of the stuff in there isn't even racist.. it's a figment of your Nazi imaginations.

  •  You find some supremacists (0+ / 0-)

    supporting Ron Paul's campaign and rush to the blogosphere to shout it from the rooftops. What do you do when you find some blacks supporting Ron Paul's campaign?
    •  Ideology vs. Race (1+ / 0-)

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      Being black isn't an ideology.  Being an active white supremacist does.

      A black people who supports Ron Paul might support him for reasons that have nothing to do with being black.

      On the other hand, it's hard to believe that the guy's reasons for supporting Ron Paul have nothing to do with his white supremacy.

      Also, Ron Paul is much more popular among the white supremacists than he is among black people.

      •  That's because you've narrowed your view (0+ / 0-)

        A black people who supports Ron Paul might support him for reasons that have nothing to do with being black.

        On the other hand, it's hard to believe that the guy's reasons for supporting Ron Paul have nothing to do with his white supremacy.

        That's because you've narrowed your view to a point that one's vocalized ideology is the entire essence of that person. Regardless of what anyone believes, they're still taxpaying citizens who drive on public roads with their children in public schools, whose families shop at the same grocery store as everyone else, and start and run successful businesses in their communities, and  suffer heart attacks and cancer just like everyone else. Whether their Christian or atheist, democrat or republican, pro-war or anti-war, racist or color blind, their beliefs shouldn't matter when it comes to government involvement in their lives.

        The reasons black people may support Paul could very well be rooted in any or a combination of all these shared conditions, but to insist that the supremacists put all of these issues aside in order to support Paul based on their own narrow world view makes you nearly as guilty as they, because you refuse to see them as humans with protected rights and liberties as the American citizens they are.

  •  Great Post (0+ / 0-)

    I saw it on Digg and some other user on Digg found this interesting coincidence...

    http://digg.com/...

    He's a Ron Paul supporter.

  •  Look at the bottom of www.michigan4ronpaul.com (2+ / 0-)

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    it says:

    This site is not sponsored by the Ron Paul campaign

    sounds like a non-story to me. a bunch of people threw up an official looking site that was not endorsed by Ron Paul's campaign and one lower level staffer is a hardcore racist.

    It looks very bad, but I dont think he even knew about it.

    •  That's the problem (0+ / 0-)

      It looks very bad, but I dont think he even knew about it.

      What Ron Paul doesn't know could fill a battleship.

    •  how badly do you want a president, jackman333? (0+ / 0-)

      ...who didn't know a newsletter published in his district under his name alone and no one else's?

      Wynton Marsalis:"Blues never lets tragedy have the last word."

      by skywriter on Wed Jan 16, 2008 at 03:34:47 AM PDT

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    •  NH (0+ / 0-)

      IT IS a nonstory.

      McCain just made a racist remark about Iraqis selling Burkhas or something, said the F word to his staff..and Obama, check his church's mission statement:

      1. Commitment to God
      1. Commitment to the Black Community
      1. Commitment to the Black Family
      1. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
      1. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
      1. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
      1. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
      1. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
      1. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
      1. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
      1. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
      1. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.

      The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:

      1. A congregation committed to ADORATION.
      1. A congregation preaching SALVATION.
      1. A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.
      1. A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
      1. A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.
      1. A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.
      1. A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
      1. A congregation committed to LIBERATION.
      1. A congregation committed to RESTORATION.
      1. A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY.
  •  Breaking news NOT! (0+ / 0-)

    This is a joke. Let me see, if I could profile every one of Hillary's or Obama's supporters I'm SURE I could find someone unacceptable, why even the candidate themself!

    Obama's a black separatist whose church is devoted to Africa and blacks only.
    Hillary hired 'THE RACE' people for her campaign. They are the nation's top organized group of race-haters and baiters.

    As for this guy in Michigan? He's not employed by the campaign so he has the right to support whoever he wants. Doesn't make Paul a racist by any means.

    Hillary Picks La Raza Leader As Campaign Co Chair
    Thu, 04/12/2007  

    The former president of an extremist group that organized many of the country's disruptive pro illegal immigration marches and advocates the return of the American Southwest to Mexico will co-chair Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.
    Best known for his radical pro Chicano work during 30 years as president of the National Council of La Raza, Raul Yzaguirre is being promoted by the Clinton campaign as a prominent Hispanic activist who will lead the New York senator's outreach to Hispanic voters.
    The reality is that Yzaguirre alienates many American citizens of Hispanic descent (in other words, those qualified to vote) with his so-called La Raza rhetoric, which has been repeatedly labeled racist.
    The National Council of La Raza describes itself as the largest Latino civil rights and advocacy organization in the United States, but it caters to the radical Chicano movement that says California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and parts of Colorado and Texas belong to Aztlan.
    The takeover plan is referred to as the "reconquista" of the Western U.S. and it features ethnic cleansing of Americans, Europeans, Africans and Asians once the area is taken back and converted to Aztlan.
    While this may all sound a bit crazy, this organization is quite powerful (thanks to Hillary's new campaign co-chair) and annually receives millions of dollars in federal grants. Its leaders also managed to get included in congressional hearings regarding immigration. Last year alone, the National Council of La Raza received $15.2 million in federal grants and one senator gave the group an extra $4 million in earmarked American taxpayer dollars.
    The organization uses the money to support projects like a Southern California elementary school with a curriculum that specializes in bashing America and promoting the Chicano movement. The school's founder and principal, a Calexico-educated activist named Marcos Aguilar, opposes racial integration and says Mexicans in the U.S. don't want to go to white schools or drink from white water fountains.

    Hillary also is known for having a foul mouth and hurling anti-semitic language at Jews.

    http://archives.cnn.com/...

    Sorry KOS, we love RP - he's SQUEAKY CLEAN.

  •  Poor Randy Gray (0+ / 0-)

    If I was fat and ugly at 29 like Randy Gray, I'd probably be a hateful person too.

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