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Bernanke's testimony

Thu Jan 17, 2008 at 10:05:18 AM PDT

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke testified before the House Budget committee today.  His prepared statement on the economic outlook is available from the Fed's public Web site

So why do I care?

Because I've seen too many economic magic bullets come, go, and backfire.  

I'm a single father of three, supporting my family with a career in technology consulting - a geek job.  Locally, I know people who have lost jobs in both the high-tech / high-growth industries, and in the traditional manufacturing industries.  As soon as the (obviously overheated) housing industry started to slow down, our friends in the building trades found themselves under the same pressures.

And the bad news is finally trickling down into the macroeconomic numbers that Wall Street won't let Bernanke and the government ignore.  I read that chairman Bernanke is calling for an economic stimulus package to get "cash into the hands of the people".

To be useful, a fiscal stimulus package should be implemented quickly and structured so that its effects on aggregate spending are felt as much as possible within the next twelve months or so.  Stimulus that comes too late will not help support economic activity in the near term, and it could be actively destabilizing if it comes at a time when growth is already improving.  Thus, fiscal measures that involve long lead times or result in additional economic activity only over a protracted period, whatever their intrinsic merits might be, will not provide stimulus when it is most needed.  Any fiscal package should also be efficient, in the sense of maximizing the amount of near-term stimulus per dollar of increased federal expenditure or lost revenue.  Finally, any program should be explicitly temporary, both to avoid unwanted stimulus beyond the near-term horizon and, importantly, to preclude an increase in the federal government's structural budget deficit.  As I have discussed on other occasions, the nation faces daunting long-run budget challenges associated with an aging population, rising health-care costs, and other factors.  A fiscal program that increased the structural budget deficit would only make confronting those challenges more difficult. - http://www.federalreserve.gov/...

While I recognize the need for short-term help, I'm inclined to be cautious in national response to the chairman's call.  From where I sit here in Michigan, a short-term stimulus package isn't worth a hill of beans if my job and my neighbors' jobs aren't here next year.  

I believe it is critically important to view job security as the number one component of fiscal security.  Those who build houses are feeling the pinch right now that may not be a short-term event.  The housing industry on which the relied was built on an economic and environmental house of cards.  This question vastly oversimplifies the issue, but if my high-tech job goes to India and my neighbors' factory jobs go to China, and the housing market never overreaches again, will there even be an economy left to save?

I vividly remember getting that IRS "bonus" check in 2001.  The few hundred dollars would barely cover a months' worth of groceries for my family, much less save us from any of the true economic dangers that we face.  I fear that the kind of economic stimulus package being discussed by chairman Bernanke could do more to distract us from our problems than they do to address our problems.

Am I off base in thinking that we should put the brakes on any short-term economic package that distracts us from addressing the nation's long-term needs?

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  •  I don't think you're off base; I think Bernanke (8+ / 0-)

    is off base and sitting between rock/hard place. The market has already built in a 50% basis point cut in the Fed interest rates, it really wants a 75% b.p. cut.
    A rate cut will only weaken the dollar further. So, who's running the economy: the Fed? or the Market?
        What good will it do me to get another 'gift check' for $600 from the Fed? It is not going to solve the economic woes of this nation and it will cost even more money to mail us the damn check!
        What we need are decent paying jobs that allow people to purchase homes and send kids to college and while we are at it: lower the State college tuition costs. We need tax incentives to keep jobs in America.
    And we need to end the Bush tax cuts to the American corporate elite.
         A short term stimulus package?  I want a heckuva lot more details.
         Thanks for your diary!

    In youth we learn, in age we understand.

    by Jbeaudill on Thu Jan 17, 2008 at 10:14:20 AM PDT

    •  The market wants the Fed to give the money (4+ / 0-)

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      ou for free - that is what they really mean by "free market".

      Anyhow, the market is tanking again today so I don't think they were anymore impressed with Bernake's comments today than the diarist was.

    •  When they talk like this, things are bad (2+ / 0-)

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      They have to do both, short term stimulus and long term strategy.  Without the short term thing, in whatever form it takes (personally, I prefer Hillary's plan of making unemployment benefits better and home heating fuel assistance) and the rest of it.  These people will spend the money and it will help people who will also spend the money have jobs.  You are right, though, there are much bigger fish to fry to fix our economy.

      Winning without Delay.

      by ljm on Thu Jan 17, 2008 at 11:21:17 AM PDT

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      •  I am concerned about the Fed just (0+ / 0-)

        printing money willy-nilly too - this will further lower the value of our dollar and pretty soon we'll be lugging dollars around like packets of Lira.
             I am concerned that the dollar will no longer be the world's reserve currency.

        In youth we learn, in age we understand.

        by Jbeaudill on Thu Jan 17, 2008 at 11:36:23 AM PDT

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  •  It's the illusion of prosperity, stupid! (10+ / 0-)

    Band-aids may help to prevent infection, but the scar remains.  Bernanke (yet another graduate of the Goldman-Sachs school of US Fiscal-Policy makers) is in over his head, and what's scaring everyone with the exception of bush, who will be leaving office in a year and doesn't really give a shit what happens to the economy, is that we're headed into a Reagan-quality recession, and there's nothing anyone can really do about it.

    Our major financial and investment institutions (Meryll Lynch, Citigroup) are going overseas for bailouts...something which, in a few years, will be seen as the global equivalent of predatory lending like Pay-day loans here in the inner cities of the US.

    This is only going to get worse before it gets better.

    Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

    by darthstar on Thu Jan 17, 2008 at 10:15:26 AM PDT

  •  Speaking of Goldman-Sachs.... (3+ / 0-)

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    Bloomberg is running a story on its site: "What Does Goldman Know That We Don't?"

    I expect we may see more on this soon...or not.

  •  It's obvious (3+ / 0-)

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    that as long as the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer everything is cool. But as soon as the rich start losing even a penny suddenly we need economic band-aids. No solutions to the current economic situation being offered are intended to benefit the poor, the working class, or the middle class.

    As soon as a fix is in for the wealthy, the economy will again be declared healthy.

    •  When this first started, (3+ / 0-)

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      someone posted a graph showing when the mortgage resets were supposed to take place.  In two months - in March - the largest portion of jumbo loans will reset.  Those are the loans taken out for the fancy houses in the fancy neighborhoods.  When a house goes into default, it negatively affects the prices of the other houses in the neighborhood.  It was all cool when it was working class neighborhoods in Ohio, Michigan, upstate NY, but now that this crisis threatens the property values in places like East Hampton - people in power are really paying attention - I mean where will they "summer" and how can their friends be inconvenienced by losing some percentage of their summer house's value?  Damn straight Bush is paying attention now.

  •  Bernanke is in a tough position (3+ / 0-)

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    what ever he does. I don't envy him at all. He got saddled with Greenspan's fubar.

    The bottom line is there ain't no easy solutions out there. Thats what happens when we let spendthrifts and scofflaws run things.

  •  Helocopter Ben... (1+ / 0-)

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    Also said we would see slowing, not a recession.  So, Benny (can I call you Benny?) if we are not going to have a recession, then why do we need a stimulus package?

  •  Atrios on Bernanke (2+ / 0-)

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    Bernanke Not Nuts

    To elaborate a bit, Bernanke's basically saying-without-quite-saying that any stimulus package that Congress passes shouldn't include making permanent the Bush tax cuts. He's not taking a stand on the tax cuts per se, but instead saying that whether or not it's a good idea is a separate issue from any short term stimulus package. They're two different issues - short term stimulus and long run structural - and they should be seen as such.

    John McCain will end Roe v. Wade if he's president.

    by Phoenix Woman on Thu Jan 17, 2008 at 11:09:52 AM PDT

  •  If they want to stimulate the economy, (3+ / 0-)

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    why not just create an economic program that partners the Fed with private industry to rebuild our infrastructure.  We all know the infrastructure is crumbling and very little is being done to salvage it. At least with such a homegrown program the dollars would be staying in America rather than ending up overseas and a rebuilt infrastructure would add to the safety and security of America as well as the ease of doing business overall.  This is far better to me, rebuild and restore the economy from within.

    In youth we learn, in age we understand.

    by Jbeaudill on Thu Jan 17, 2008 at 11:41:39 AM PDT

  •  More tax cuts for the rich!!! (1+ / 0-)

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    That'll solve everything!!!!!

    Poor and the middle class will go down the drain but that's their own damn fault for not being born rich!!!!!

    /snark

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