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[ED] Obama "Unnamed Candidate" in Rezko Indictments

Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 11:07:06 AM PDT

[editor's note, by SusanHu] I've changed the title. Sen. Obama is not named in the indictment and is not facing charges, but he does have longtime ties to Tony Rezko.  What bothers me most -- because it so harmed the poorest of Chicago's residents -- is that Obama and his law firm represented Rezko's lucrative public housing deals that used public funding. But, when Rezko was exposed as a "slumlord" who mistreated his poor tenants, Obama denied any knowledge of Rezko's slumlord practices.  

Do you recall "Obama, His Lobbyists and His Cronies," my January 11th piece on ABC News's reports on Barack Obama's long associations with -- and innumerable financial, legal and real estate ties -- to Tony Rezko, "who goes on trial February 25th for 'extortion and fraud charges, which include shakedown allegations involving an Illinois pension fund'"?

ABC News's Brian Ross said, at the time, that Obama was not named in the 73-page indictment. Today, however, the Chicago Sun-Times -- "Sun-Times Exclusive: Obama surfaces in Rekzo's federal corruption case" -- reveals that:

Source confirmed Obama is the unnamed "political candidate" referred to in document which outlines case against Rezko

The Sun-Times reports:

Obama is not named in the Dec. 21 court document. But a source ... confirmed that Obama is the unnamed “political candidate” referred to in a section of the document that accuses Rezko of orchestrating a scheme in which a firm hired to handle state teacher pension investments first had to pay $250,000 in “sham” finder’s fees. From that money, $10,000 was donated to Obama’s successful run for the Senate in the name of a Rezko business associate, according to the court filing and the source.

Rezko, who was part of Obama’s senatorial finance committee, also is accused of directing “at least one other individual” to donate money to Obama and then reimbursing that individual — in possible violation of federal election law.

A spokesman for U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald declined to comment.

Obama ... has moved to distance himself from Rezko since his longtime friend and supporter was indicted in October 2006. After news reports that Obama had engaged in a real estate transaction with Rezko’s wife at a time Tony Rezko was known to be under investigation, the senator called the episode “boneheaded” and “a mistake.” ... [Yeah, right. Below, I'VE POSTED BACKGROUND on Obama's home purchase tied to Resko and his wife.]

Other key revelations in the Sun-Times story today are Obama's feeble attempts to deny knowledge of shady deals, improper campaign donations, and Rezko's reputation as a slumlord (all while Obama worked for the law firm that represented Rezko's interests in low-income housing developments):

  • Obama denies knowing Joseph Aramanda -- named as "Individual D" in the indictment, and who received $250,000 in "sham" finder’s fees "demanded by Rezko" -- but "Obama’s office hired Aramanda’s son as an intern in 2005, at Rezko’s urging," reports the Sun-Times.
  • "Rezko is one of Obama’s earliest political patrons," and although Obama claims he's only received $60,000 from Rezko's fundraising, the Sun-Times found that "[i]n 13 years in politics, Obama has gotten at least $168,000 in campaign donations from Rezko, his family and business associates."
  • Rezko is an infamous slumlord, although -- despite having worked on dozens of real estate deals that benefited his client Rezko -- Obama "said he was unaware of problems with the buildings and minimized the legal work he’d done."  (So much for the "little people.")

I wonder if ABC's Brian Ross has been on the phone all morning, working his own sources for further background on the Sun-Times's discovery that Obama is indeed the unnamed "political candidate" in Fitzgerald's indictment.  Here's Brian Ross's video from January 10th -- when Ross didn't know that Obama was the unnamed candidate in the indictment. And, below, there's more from the Sun-Times story along with more background on Tony Rezko:  

Here's the background on Obama's purchase of his family's current home in Chicago, along with some of the story on his lengthy history of associations with Rezko:

Obama’s relationship with Rezko dates to 1990, when Obama, then a Harvard law student, interviewed for a job with Rezko’s development company, Rezmar Corp. Obama turned down the job, instead going to work for a small Chicago law firm — Davis Miner Barnhill. That firm did work on more than a dozen low-income housing projects Rezmar rehabbed with government funds.

Eleven Rezmar buildings were in the state Senate district Obama represented between 1996 and 2004. Many of the buildings ended up in foreclosure, with tenants living in squalid conditions, the Sun-Times reported last year. In one instance, Rezko’s company left tenants without heat for five weeks. Obama said he was unaware of problems with the buildings and minimized the legal work he’d done.

Obama’s relationship with Rezko grew closer in June 2005, when Obama and Rezko’s wife bought adjoining real estate parcels from a doctor in the South Side Kenwood neighborhood. Obama paid $1.65 million for the doctor’s mansion, while Rezko’s wife paid $625,000 for the vacant lot next door. Obama’s purchase price was $300,000 below the asking price; Rezko’s wife paid full price.

Six months later, Obama paid Rita Rezko $104,500 for one-sixth of the vacant lot, which he bought to expand his yard. In November 2006, he expressed regret about the transaction.

“It was a mistake to have been engaged with him at all in this or any other personal business dealing that would allow him, or anyone else,” Obama said, “to believe that he had done me a favor.”

Yeah, right.  The LeftCoaster has more on Obama's house purchase in "Obama Can't Shake Connections To Chicago Insider In Trouble With FBI":

In October of 2006 it was revealed that Rezko helped Obama purchase a home for hundreds of thousands of dollars below the market value, while Rezko bought the lot next door. Illinois residents remember well Obama saying he didn't recall the conversations with Rezko, then remembered after Chicago papers started examining the deal, then admitted it was a "bone-headed mistake" on ABC. [As the YouTube video shows, Obama has had a variety of "explanations" for his longtime association with Rezko.]

And here is a list of the Chicago Sun-Times's related stories:

FROM THE OBAMA ARCHIVE

SEE ALSO:

From my January 11th story, "Obama, His Lobbyists and His Cronies," SusanUnPC, No Quarter, January 11, 2008:

CAN ANY OF YOU decipher what Obama is mumbling to Diane Sawyer in the Good Morning America interview?  Does that mumbling remind of you his weak, faint response in the top YouTube here?

Tags: Barack Obama, Tony Rezko, Chicago Sun-Times, Patrick Fitzgerald, Chicago, U.S. Attorneys, Recommended, 2008 elections, president, primaries, Democrats, corruption (all tags) :: Previous Tag Versions

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      •  That, too: but now you get the scandal of... (6+ / 0-)

        plain old graft along with the scandal of campaigning like a Republican.

        I would continue to encourage everyone to use their superpowers for good, not evil, even though "evil" now seems to require less congressional oversight.

        by Superskepticalman on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 11:16:19 AM PDT

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        •  Obama never did anything for Rezko (14+ / 0-)

          End of story>>>>.(thats a period)

          Conventional wisdom is most usualy an oxymoron.

          by SmithsLastWord on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 11:31:44 AM PDT

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          •  I think he wrote letters on Rezko's behalf (11+ / 0-)

            and he certainly maintained a long term friendship with him.  

            He seems to have benefited Rezko more than the tenants in Rezko's apartments.  

            •  comapare with the Clinton's (10+ / 0-)

              He never did a thing for Rezko that he wouldn't any constituent.  Obama corresponded with rezko about an intern.  The intern was hired.  This is no scandal its a laughing stock. Compare to other scandals involving the Clinotns and campaign doners given huge posts or released form prisons.  And lets not forget the intern comparisons!!!!

              Conventional wisdom is most usualy an oxymoron.

              by SmithsLastWord on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 12:00:57 PM PDT

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            •  To be fair (8+ / 0-)

              Obama's letters, written nearly nine years ago, for the first time show the Democratic presidential hopeful did a political favor for Rezko -- a longtime friend, campaign fund-raiser and client of the law firm where Obama worked -- who was indicted last fall on federal charges that accuse him of demanding kickbacks from companies seeking state business under Gov. Blagojevich.

              "Long time friend" of the law firm where Obama worked.  Not long time friend of Obama.

              On Tuesday, Bill Burton, press secretary for Obama's presidential campaign, said the letters Obama wrote in support of the development weren't intended as a favor to Rezko or Davis.

              "This wasn't done as a favor for anyone," Burton said in a written statement. "It was done in the interests of the people in the community who have benefited from the project.

              "I don't know that anyone specifically asked him to write this letter nine years ago," the statement said. "There was a consensus in the community about the positive impact the project would make and Obama supported it because it was going to help people in his district. . . . They had a wellness clinic and adult day-care services, as well as a series of social services for residents. It's a successful project. It's meant a lot to the community, and he's proud to have supported it.''

              The development, called the Cottage View Terrace apartments, opened five years ago at 4801 S. Cottage Grove, providing 97 apartments for low-income senior citizens.

              Asked about the Obama letters, Rezko's attorney, Joseph Duffy, said Tuesday, "Mr. Rezko never spoke with, nor sought a letter from, Senator Obama in connection with that project."

              I have the distinction of being called a media whore by Courtney Love. -Maynard J. Keenan

              by arielle on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 12:15:40 PM PDT

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              •  why let facts get in the way of a good repeated (5+ / 0-)

                smear?

                Do you think George Stephanopoulos loves America as much as you?

                by MadAsHellMaddie on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 01:06:34 PM PDT

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                •  Love your sig line n/t (0+ / 0-)

                  I listen to wingnut radio so you don't have to!

                  by Sharon on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 01:38:39 PM PDT

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                •  This diary needs to be edited again (0+ / 0-)

                  The "Editor's Note" says Sen Obama is not under indictment, but is mentioned as "unnamed candidate".

                  So the real question is, what role does the indictment claim the "unnamed candiate" played?  This is what I expected to read about.

                  But the diary is not about the indictment, but instead about Obama's ties to its target -- and therefore misleading.

                  This from a (still) dyed-in-the-wool Edwards supporter.

                  Bush Administration: Proving the saying, "You can fool most of the people some of the time, and 30% 24% 19% all the time."

                  by Helpless on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 01:52:43 PM PDT

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                •  Tonya Harding=fix your sig line (0+ / 0-)

                  1.  First, you should learn to spell her name before using her to beat on Hillary Clinton
                  1.  As a long time skating fan, I can tell you that there are very few similarities between Tonya Harding and Hillary Clinton.  For one thing, Tonya had a very suspect work ethic in her training. Everyone credits Hillary with  working hard in the Senate. Tonya had to get a GED to graduate from high school.  No one has ever accused Tonya of being very intelligent.  And no one has accused Hillary of being stupid.
                  1.  If there is a similarity, it may lie in an abusive home life when they were little girls.  Tonya had a hyper abusive mother.  Hillary's father is generally described as not being a very pleasant man.  

                  But in general, there's darn little similarity.

              •  Holy selective quoting, Batman! You left out the (0+ / 0-)

                part where Obama's friend and former boss, in partnership with Rezko, got $800,000 in development fees and potentially another million in tax credits. And Obama apologetically described his own conduct as "boneheaded".

                Does this make him History's Greatest Monster? No. But it does show that he's not a departure from politics as usual. He may be a small time crony-loving crook (if you judge him by this deal alone; which you shouldn't cuz there's more)  but he's still a crony-loving crook.

                "the Republicans have picked their only "safe" general election candidate, and the Democrats have rejected theirs." - Eric Alterman, 1/30/08

                by output on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 02:07:33 PM PDT

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            •  And if you remember in San Diego???? (3+ / 0-)

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              I am not saying guilty or not guilty, but we remember the Dukester getting a good deal on a house. $300k under purchase price is a decent deal. I like Barrack. I was a little taken back this morning watching a video of him trying to tell a jokeCNN Political Ticket

              n comments he first introduced on the trail Thursday night, Obama chastised Clinton for trying to make an issue of the fact he admitted at a recent debate he is at times disorganized, and mocked both Clinton and John Edwards for what they offered as their "weaknesses."

              "I said, 'Well, I don't hang on to paper really well. My desk is a mess, so you know I need people to help me filing and keeping on schedule and things like that,'" he told a raucous crowd in Las Vegas. "And so my two colleagues — Sen. Edwards says um, 'My biggest weakness is I'm just so passionate about poor people and helping them,' and then Hillary says, ‘My biggest weakness is I'm so impatient to bring about real change in America.'"

              "Now, I didn't, nobody had clued me in, that ya know, see, if I had gone last I would have said 'My biggest weakness? I like to help old ladies across the street," Obama deadpanned to laughter.

              "I didn't understand the question," he said, laughing. "But this is what I mean. This is political speak. This is what you learn in Washington from all those years of experience — it's funny, except its sad, because it means that the American people are constantly having to sort out ‘what do people really mean?’

              I get what he was saying but I was OMG, he was sounding like Bush with the hemming and uming. So I just hope all of this can be put away before long. Fitzpatrick  should just name the unnamed candidate and get it over with. I would fear if this raised its ugly head during the actual full on campaign, it would be devastating and insure a Republican in the WH in 08.  Let's just clean this up now

              I'm voting for the Democrat! End of story!

              by BarnBabe on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 12:23:02 PM PDT

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              •  Clean What Up? (2+ / 0-)

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                He's not being investigated--there's simply no evidence and if you read the indictments there's no suggestion he is a target.  

                More to the point--the house sale claims are simply wrong. The two plots were listed separately and the two highest bids were taken on both properties.  How about not helping out the right wing lies instead of spreading them.

          •  He did hire an intern (0+ / 0-)

            And that intern has since taken over our government. Watch out!

        •  and i thought being a "muslim" (4+ / 0-)

          was a problem! he's a mobster, too!

          james jamerson: genius!

          by memofromturner on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 11:31:59 AM PDT

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        •  What Scandal? (1+ / 0-)

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          These are rumors right now, so let's wait and see before we call this a scandal and do the right wing's work for them. Yes, vet, but do it fairly and don't distort and muddy the waters with "Scandal" ... and from some of the comments here, these rumors go nowhere ... it can look pretty damning presented this way, but let's not jump to conclusions

      •  Those that champion the lies (11+ / 0-)

        Superskepticalman, DaveOinSF, Harry S, cpa1, be inspired, westsyde, ThirstyGator, bonddad, AZnomad, amberglow, SensibleShoes, campskunk, jfdunphy, Gabriele Droz, ecoast, ccmask, anna shane, pioneer111, Universal, Lujane, rigso, Izarradar, emmabrody, zazzlin

        Kudos.  Rove would be proud.

        Do you think George Stephanopoulos loves America as much as you?

        by MadAsHellMaddie on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 11:40:14 AM PDT

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        •  Seeing your comment here I went back to rec... (3+ / 0-)

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          Here's the list so far:

          kck, TX Dem in DC, Superskepticalman, coral, DaveOinSF, Jsea, Harry S, cpa1, Jim Riggs, pelican, Wintermute, be inspired, westsyde, ThirstyGator, HarveyMilk, Norwegian Chef, zeitshabba, concernedamerican, bonddad, boadicea, AZnomad, JuliaAnn, amberglow, Larry Bailey, mystified, enough already, SensibleShoes, campskunk, BarnBabe, kevin22262, TXsharon, Kidspeak, i love coffee, jonathan94002, Leslie H, Bluesee, ichibon, jfdunphy, Gabriele Droz, ecoast, teresab, Pam from Calif, washingtonsmith, hopefulcanadian, deepsouthdoug, ClintB, sgary, dannyinla, ccmask, Tanya, gotalife, raindrop, va dare, anna shane, ashlarah, Bridge Master, pioneer111, madgranny, TheSilence, Universal, okamichan13, Lujane, rigso, Izarradar, emmabrody, zazzlin, Sullen Idealist, Stranded Wind, DemAC, Kairos

          I decided that if you are so sure that these are lies then dialog needs to take place so that the "lies" can be surfaced and debunked not from a supporter's view, which may be biased (ahem), but to prepare for the GOP deluge.

          Your comment and the arrogance in it says so much for the poor state of discussion.

          I am satisfied that I'm not voting for Obama for positive authentic reasons and would not have thought to rec this diary but for your attempt to stifle contribution.  

          HR 676 or California's SB-840 - the only health reform proposals worth my vote.

          by kck on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 12:45:54 PM PDT

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          •  Not Quite the Whole STory (1+ / 0-)

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            This crap has been debunked repeatedly yet people are still posting it and recommending it.  A bit different context.  

            •  Not to me. I had to look into it myself (2+ / 0-)

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              and came away considering it not an issue for Obama. Others may not have taken the time...and many of us avoid most candidate diaries so any insular group of supporters will now be challenged as the same old issues are raised each time someone new takes a look...hey, that's what will happen after the primary!

              If members are still posting and rec'ing then it has not been debunked. Not with closure.  

              HR 676 or California's SB-840 - the only health reform proposals worth my vote.

              by kck on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 01:10:18 PM PDT

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              •  Silly MSM response (0+ / 0-)

                ==If members are still posting and rec'ing then it has not been debunked. Not with closure.  

                Well, if the facts aren't good enough, what will bring closure?

                •  The only irrefutable 'facts' are ones... (0+ / 0-)

                  ...that can be measured. You don't seem to have a lot of respect for the community here. Perhaps the diarist is a rabid anti-Obama activist (I suspect so, we have a few against each candidate)...that does not speak to the efforts of other members to reach closure before the opposition gets involved. Btw, stifling a topic always gins up interest. Only an unusual trusted user can write up an authoritative, comprehensive factual response that can win over a significant chunk of this community...perhaps it's been done?  

                  HR 676 or California's SB-840 - the only health reform proposals worth my vote.

                  by kck on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 01:17:08 PM PDT

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                  •  Or Perhaps (0+ / 0-)

                    You can look at the facts.  And the facts have been collected by the Sun-Times, the Chicago Tribune and pointed out repeatedly in these diaries.  Facts aren't about the opinion of the majority.  They exist independently.  

                    Now, if you care to discuss a particular aspect of the Rezko issue, I'm happy to explain it to you.  However,  simply saying because someone writes up a hit diary the issue isn't settled means only that don't know much about the issue.  

                    •  From the Sun Times (2+ / 0-)

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                      Other stories has reported the details of Obama's claims were corroborated:

                      : How do you explain the fact your family purchased your home the same day as Rita Rezko bought the property adjacent to yours? Was this a coordinated purchase?

                      A: The sellers required the closing of both properties at the same time. As they were moving out of town, they wished to conclude the sale of both properties simultaneously. The lot was purchased first; with the purchase of the house on the adjacent lot, the closings could proceed and did, on the same day, pursuant to the condition set by the sellers.

                      Q: Why is it that you were able to buy your parcel for $300,000 less than the asking price, and Rita Rezko paid full price? Who negotiated this end of the deal? Did whoever negotiated it have any contact with Rita and Tony Rezko or their Realtor or lawyer?

                      A: Our agent negotiated only with the seller's agent. As we understood it, the house had been listed for some time, for months, and our offer was one of two and, as we understood it, it was the best offer. The original listed price was too high for the market at the time, and we understood that the sellers, who were anxious to move, were prepared to sell the house for what they paid for it, which is what they did.

                      We were not involved in the Rezko negotiation of the price for the adjacent lot. It was our understanding that the owners had received, from another buyer, an offer for $625,000 and that therefore the Rezkos could not have offered or purchased that lot for less.

                      Q: Why did you put the property in a trust?

                      A: I was advised that a trust holding would afford me some privacy, which was important to me as I would be commuting from Washington to Chicago and my family would spend some part of most weeks without me.

                      Q: A Nov. 21, 1999, Chicago Tribune story indicates the house you bought "sits on a quarter-acre lot and will share a driveway and entrance gate with a home next door that has not yet been built." Is this shared driveway still in the mix? Will this require further negotiations with the Rezkos?

                      A: The driveway is not shared with the adjacent owner. But the resident in the carriage house in the back does have an easement over it.

                      Q: Does it display a lack of judgment on your part to be engaging in real estate deals with Tony Rezko at a point his connections to state government had been reported to be under federal investigation?

                      A: I've always held myself to the highest ethical standards. During the ten years I have been in public office, I believe I have met those standards and I know that is what people expect of me. I have also understood the importance of appearances.

                      With respect to the purchase of my home, I am confident that everything was handled ethically and above board.

                      But I regret that while I tried to pay close attention to the specific requirements of ethical conduct, I misgauged the appearance presented by my purchase of the additional land from Mr. Rezko. It was simply not good enough that I paid above the appraised value for the strip of land that he sold me. It was a mistake to have been engaged with him at all in this or any other personal business dealing that would allow him, or anyone else, to believe that he had done me a favor. For that reason, I consider this a mistake on my part and I regret it.

                      Throughout my life, I have put faith in confronting experiences honestly and learning from them. And that is what I will do with this experience as well.

                      Q: Why did you not publicly disclose the transaction after Rezko got indicted?

                      A: At the time, it didn't strike me as relevant. I did however donate campaign contributions from Rezko to charity.

                      Q: Have you been interviewed by federal investigators about this transaction or about your relationship with Rezko? If not, do you intend to approach them?

                      A: I have not been interviewed by federal investigators. I have no reason to approach them.

                      Q: Did Rezko or his companies ever solicit your support on any matter involving state or federal government? Did Al Johnson, who was trying to get a casino license along with Tony Rezko, or Rezko himself ever discuss casino matters with you?

                      A: No, I have never been asked to do anything to advance his business interests. In 1999, when I was a State Senator, I opposed legislation to bring a casino to Rosemont and allow casino gambling at docked riverboats which news reports said Al Johnson and Tony Rezko were interested in being part of. I never discussed a casino license with either of them. I was a vocal opponent of the legislation. (http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/srollcalls91/pdf/910SB1017_05251999_001000C.PDF)

                      Q: Has this disclosure about your relationship with Rezko changed your thoughts about a White House run?

                      A: No. As I have said, how I can best serve is something I will think about after the 2006 election next Tuesday.

                      Q: Did Rezko ever discuss with you his dealings with Stuart Levine, Christopher Kelly or William Cellini or the role he was playing in shaping Gov. Blagojevich's administration?

                      A: No.

                      Q: Are the Obamas the only beneficiaries of the land trust?

                      A: Yes.

                      Q: Are you aware of any efforts by previous owners to develop what is now the Rezko lot, possibly as townhomes?

                      A: I was not aware of any prior effort by the seller to develop the property, but always understood the other lot was to be developed upon sale.

                      Q: Did Rezko have an appraisal performed for the 10-foot strip?

                      A: I had an appraisal conducted by Howard B. Richter & Associates on November 21, 2005.

                      Q: Was there a negotiation? Did he have an asking price, or did he just say, whatever you think is fair?

                      A: I proposed to pay on the basis of proportionality. Since the strip composed one-sixth of the entire lot, I would pay one-sixth of the purchase price of the lot. I offered this to Mr. Rezko and he accepted it.

                      Q: How many fundraisers has Mr. Rezko hosted for you? Were these all in his home? How much would you estimate he has raised for your campaigns?

                      A: He hosted one event at his home in 2003 for my U.S. Senate campaign. He participated as a member of a host committee for several other events. My best estimate was that he raised somewhere between $50,000 and $60,000.

                    •  As I said, it is a closed topic FOR ME (0+ / 0-)

                      That is obviously not the same as "the public"

                      HR 676 or California's SB-840 - the only health reform proposals worth my vote.

                      by kck on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 02:02:02 PM PDT

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          •  Come on (1+ / 0-)

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            I said "yes vet let's do it, but don't jump to conclusions." Nowhere did I attempt to stifle discussion. I only said don't jump to conclusions ... that seems like a totally fair way of dealing with this.

            I am not sure what your motive is though. To push a "Scandal" before it is a true scandal? ... There are questions, I would like to see the answers and we will in due time.

      •  Yawn (13+ / 0-)

        GunLovingDem is right on this one.  This bogus story is a "big nothing".  The more popular Obama gets with the voters, the more the swiftboat attacks will come.

        I agree with GunLovingDem that we should get back to debating the real issues that actually matter.  I respect GunLovingDem's passion, and I hope we can get back to the substantive debate on issues.  For me, I'm a single-issue voter.  Along with Dean and Gore, Obama was one of the few brave leaders who stood up in 2002 against Bush's Iraq war.  That's the type of judgment and leadership we need in the White House.

        I may be a single-issue voter, but war and peace is a pretty big issue.

        •  This real estate deal was corrupt, no doubt. (7+ / 0-)

          Although this real estate deal may not disqualify him as my candidate of choice, in my opinion. Nonetheless, it was corrupt.
          What is left out of the story is that the original seller of Obama's house owned both the house and the lot next door. He insisted on selling them both together, but Obama did not want and could not afford them both, so he got Rezko to buy the lot next door and he bought the house. He also got Rezko to pick up a certain percentage of the total price; in other words, the Rezkos paid a little more for the lot and Obama got a little discount on the house.
          As the seller insisted on selling the whole thing as a package, the sales were made on the same day.
          It's plain as day that Obama called on his friend Rezko to help him purchase his house; he wanted a big house and he used his political connections to get it.
          This is as corrupt as it gets, you can't spin this.
          Obama did it to get a nice big house.
          It wasn't bone-headed; it was corrupt.
          To say it wasn't is to ignore the facts. Still, it has to be weighed against Clinton's corrupt acts.

          Madness in great ones must not unwatched go. - Claudius, in Hamlet (Shakespeare) -8.13, -7.74

          by AWhitneyBrown on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 12:10:04 PM PDT

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          •  Oh, and then he took a little more of the lot. (4+ / 0-)

            To continue the narrative, he then added a bit of the lot next door to his own yard at a price he never could have got otherwise.
            No neutral owner would ever have sold Obama one sixth of their lot for one sixth of their purchase price. Put yourself in their position; it's a ridiculous deal, especially since they were going to develop the lot.
            Think about it. Who sub-divides and then sells the smaller pieces for the same price per square foot as they paid for the whole? Nobody, that's who.
            It's a bullshit explanation.

            Madness in great ones must not unwatched go. - Claudius, in Hamlet (Shakespeare) -8.13, -7.74

            by AWhitneyBrown on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 12:15:58 PM PDT

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            •  Lie Much? (6+ / 0-)

              Too bad you don't know much about what the fuck you are talking about.

              The two plots of land were listed separately at the outset by the owners.  The two plots were bid on separately and the highest bids for both were taken by the owners.  This has all been confirmed by the Trib and Sun-Times.

              The land that was bought from Rezko was a strip of land near Obama's house and the historic code would have required an amount of space between it and any new building anyway so the land was unable to be built upon in the space of the strip.  Also discussed in the original articles.

              Obama had the land assessed and it came back around $40,000 for the strip since it was a partial part of a larger plot which is valued less than as a full plot. Obama then paid 1/6th of the total valuation of the plot of land which was well over $100,000.

              Making up shit about the land deal is just bullshit.  Read the actual articles covering it before spreading lies.  

                •  So (2+ / 0-)

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                  That's fictional account of the entire process. Should I believe that guy or the Sun-Times and Trib that actually investigated the story or a guy who is making shit up?  I'll take the S-T and the Trib.

                  •  Sun Times (1+ / 0-)

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                    Obama's claims were corroborated in later stories:

                    : How do you explain the fact your family purchased your home the same day as Rita Rezko bought the property adjacent to yours? Was this a coordinated purchase?

                    A: The sellers required the closing of both properties at the same time. As they were moving out of town, they wished to conclude the sale of both properties simultaneously. The lot was purchased first; with the purchase of the house on the adjacent lot, the closings could proceed and did, on the same day, pursuant to the condition set by the sellers.

                    Q: Why is it that you were able to buy your parcel for $300,000 less than the asking price, and Rita Rezko paid full price? Who negotiated this end of the deal? Did whoever negotiated it have any contact with Rita and Tony Rezko or their Realtor or lawyer?

                    A: Our agent negotiated only with the seller's agent. As we understood it, the house had been listed for some time, for months, and our offer was one of two and, as we understood it, it was the best offer. The original listed price was too high for the market at the time, and we understood that the sellers, who were anxious to move, were prepared to sell the house for what they paid for it, which is what they did.

                    We were not involved in the Rezko negotiation of the price for the adjacent lot. It was our understanding that the owners had received, from another buyer, an offer for $625,000 and that therefore the Rezkos could not have offered or purchased that lot for less.

                    Q: Why did you put the property in a trust?

                    A: I was advised that a trust holding would afford me some privacy, which was important to me as I would be commuting from Washington to Chicago and my family would spend some part of most weeks without me.

                    Q: A Nov. 21, 1999, Chicago Tribune story indicates the house you bought "sits on a quarter-acre lot and will share a driveway and entrance gate with a home next door that has not yet been built." Is this shared driveway still in the mix? Will this require further negotiations with the Rezkos?

                    A: The driveway is not shared with the adjacent owner. But the resident in the carriage house in the back does have an easement over it.

                    Q: Does it display a lack of judgment on your part to be engaging in real estate deals with Tony Rezko at a point his connections to state government had been reported to be under federal investigation?

                    A: I've always held myself to the highest ethical standards. During the ten years I have been in public office, I believe I have met those standards and I know that is what people expect of me. I have also understood the importance of appearances.

                    With respect to the purchase of my home, I am confident that everything was handled ethically and above board.

                    But I regret that while I tried to pay close attention to the specific requirements of ethical conduct, I misgauged the appearance presented by my purchase of the additional land from Mr. Rezko. It was simply not good enough that I paid above the appraised value for the strip of land that he sold me. It was a mistake to have been engaged with him at all in this or any other personal business dealing that would allow him, or anyone else, to believe that he had done me a favor. For that reason, I consider this a mistake on my part and I regret it.

                    Throughout my life, I have put faith in confronting experiences honestly and learning from them. And that is what I will do with this experience as well.

                    Q: Why did you not publicly disclose the transaction after Rezko got indicted?

                    A: At the time, it didn't strike me as relevant. I did however donate campaign contributions from Rezko to charity.

                    Q: Have you been interviewed by federal investigators about this transaction or about your relationship with Rezko? If not, do you intend to approach them?

                    A: I have not been interviewed by federal investigators. I have no reason to approach them.

                    Q: Did Rezko or his companies ever solicit your support on any matter involving state or federal government? Did Al Johnson, who was trying to get a casino license along with Tony Rezko, or Rezko himself ever discuss casino matters with you?

                    A: No, I have never been asked to do anything to advance his business interests. In 1999, when I was a State Senator, I opposed legislation to bring a casino to Rosemont and allow casino gambling at docked riverboats which news reports said Al Johnson and Tony Rezko were interested in being part of. I never discussed a casino license with either of them. I was a vocal opponent of the legislation. (http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/srollcalls91/pdf/910SB1017_05251999_001000C.PDF)

                    Q: Has this disclosure about your relationship with Rezko changed your thoughts about a White House run?

                    A: No. As I have said, how I can best serve is something I will think about after the 2006 election next Tuesday.

                    Q: Did Rezko ever discuss with you his dealings with Stuart Levine, Christopher Kelly or William Cellini or the role he was playing in shaping Gov. Blagojevich's administration?

                    A: No.

                    Q: Are the Obamas the only beneficiaries of the land trust?

                    A: Yes.

                    Q: Are you aware of any efforts by previous owners to develop what is now the Rezko lot, possibly as townhomes?

                    A: I was not aware of any prior effort by the seller to develop the property, but always understood the other lot was to be developed upon sale.

                    Q: Did Rezko have an appraisal performed for the 10-foot strip?

                    A: I had an appraisal conducted by Howard B. Richter & Associates on November 21, 2005.

                    Q: Was there a negotiation? Did he have an asking price, or did he just say, whatever you think is fair?

                    A: I proposed to pay on the basis of proportionality. Since the strip composed one-sixth of the entire lot, I would pay one-sixth of the purchase price of the lot. I offered this to Mr. Rezko and he accepted it.

                    Q: How many fundraisers has Mr. Rezko hosted for you? Were these all in his home? How much would you estimate he has raised for your campaigns?

                    A: He hosted one event at his home in 2003 for my U.S. Senate campaign. He participated as a member of a host committee for several other events. My best estimate was that he raised somewhere between $50,000 and $60,000.

          •  Whitney, what is your source for this (0+ / 0-)

            other than your own imagination?

            What is left out of the story is that the original seller of Obama's house owned both the house and the lot next door. He insisted on selling them both together, but Obama did not want and could not afford them both, so he got Rezko to buy the lot next door and he bought the house.

            The facts are

            - The house and the empty lot were listed separately

            - The house had been on the market for months with only one previous offer, which was lower than the Obama's.

            - The seller took the best offer they received.  (Obviously the asking price was higher than the market would bear--not unusual.)

            - The Rezko's did pay full asking price for the empty lot because there was another offer at or near that price.

            When you say the seller "insisted on selling them both together" you may be misunderstanding the fact that the seller asked that the closings of the two deals occur on the same day.

            Some people fight fire with fire. Professionals use water.

            by Happy Days on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 01:59:38 PM PDT

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      •  No Democrat would "rec" this cheap gossip diary (9+ / 0-)

        Have you guys given Nader another look???  He's your man!  (Now go away and let the Democratic Party WIN for a change.)

    •  Well, then: straight-as-string Patrick Fitzgerald (6+ / 0-)

      ties Obama to good old-fashioned Chicago graft.

      No Whitewater, Rose Law Firm pseudo-scandal.

      The real deal.

      Man, that's going to so foul up the MSM storyline, ain't it?

      I would continue to encourage everyone to use their superpowers for good, not evil, even though "evil" now seems to require less congressional oversight.

      by Superskepticalman on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 11:15:04 AM PDT

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    •  Obama not accused of any wrongdoing (58+ / 0-)

      The article makes clear:

      The Illinois senator isn’t accused of any wrongdoing. And there’s no evidence Obama knew contributions to his 2004 U.S. Senate campaign came from schemes Rezko is accused of orchestrating.

      It's deceitful of the diarist (not unexpected, of course) to have omitted this.

      And the Q&A:

         Q. What is Sen. Obama’s reaction to being referred to in the Rezko evidentiary proffer?
         A. We have no way of knowing he is the politician named here but we returned this money months ago for other reasons.

         Q. Was Sen. Obama aware that Rezko allegedly had directed at least one person to donate to the senator’s campaign and later reimbursed that person, possibly violating federal election law?

         A. No.

         Q. Has the Federal Election Commission or the U.S. attorney’s office in Chicago contacted the senator or any of his representatives about these matters?

         A. No.

         Q. Why has the senator donated to charity campaign contributions from Rezko and Rezko-linked people?

         A. In keeping with our practice of donating to charity donations from people who have been called into question through the legal process, when he was named in documents as potentially engaging in wrongdoing we thought it was appropriate to return his donation to charity.

         Q. Does the senator think this development will have any impact on the presidential campaign or undercut the senator’s message that he is an agent of change?

         A. No. In fact, Sen. Obama has been a champion of reforms that have made campaign finance laws more transparent so that the public can more closely follow the source of contributions to campaigns. As with any campaign, occasionally individual contributions are called into question. Sen. Obama’s policy in such instances is to donate that money to charity which is what he did in this case seven months ago when questions first surfaced.

      McCain & Clinton = WAR Authorizers | Veep prefs for Obama: 1. Sebelius 2. Richardson

      by NeuvoLiberal on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 11:22:34 AM PDT

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      •  the what was the Bone headed mistake? (7+ / 0-)

        just because it's not ILLEGAL doesn't mean it cant be questionable

      •  I agree, he has not been accused of any (8+ / 0-)

        wrongdoing by any prosecutor or grand jury, and that is a good thing.  But public opinion is very volatile right now and with Super Tuesday coming the stakes couldn't be higher.  

        My position is that if there is any fire to this smoke I want it to come out now, not later.  If this stupid primary crap we are gong through winds up nominating someone who is later found out to be up to no good then it could really hurt us because it could change public attitudes toward the party.  If any of these candidates has the wrong kind of stuff in their history they ought to drop out right now.  But right now all three look perfectly innocent to me.

        If you don't have an earth-shaking idea, get one, you'll love building a better world.

        by hestal on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 11:37:10 AM PDT

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      •  Judge a man by the company he keeps (3+ / 0-)

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        Despite the fact that this is an old truism, many people still subscribe to this view of life.  It is hard to have a 17 year professional relationship with a crook without having some of their stench rub off on you.  The comments here are representative of the skepticism that will grow as the general public becomes more aware of this story - something I'm sure the swift boaters will be happy to assist in if/when Obama becomes the Democratic nominee.  

        You claim this is old news, but so are so many of bu$hco's crimes.  That doesn't make them any less reprehensible.  And for the swift boaters, there's no such things as old news.  If you recall, they are masters of reinventing history to fit their narrative that the Democrat [sic] candidate is a dishonorable spittle of pond scum.  

        At the very least, the real estate deal sounds like Obama's version of Hillary's cattle futures.  Maybe not illegal per se, but sure stinky.

        And even more dishonorable is Obama's current posture of running away from Rezko as fast as he can.  I'd be pissed if a friend of 17 years turned their back on me in my hour of need.

        John McCain: He's not just crazy ...
        He's BATSHIT CRAZY!

        by kbman on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 12:00:48 PM PDT

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        •  I don't like politics (0+ / 0-)

          I never really did, but held out hope for quite that we may be able to reform the political system.

          We should make politics less about politicians and more about people. We should directly engage people in their democracy, we need things such as term limits, full public financing, tough lobbying reform, a fully open democracy and ultimately a functioning direct democracy.

          But my hopes of seeing a better polity are fading, especially when I see the dirtiness of the Clinton campaign.

          I see a decent chance of working towards such a system with Obama winning the Presidency (Gore, Dean, Feingold etc would have been good too, but none of them ran), because I think he wants us to get there and is open to good ideas.

          McCain & Clinton = WAR Authorizers | Veep prefs for Obama: 1. Sebelius 2. Richardson

          by NeuvoLiberal on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 12:22:13 PM PDT

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          •  Here's the crux of the problem as I see it ... (0+ / 0-)

            While the Democratic party is idealistic and hopeful enough to nominate an African-American candidate for the presidency, I don't believe that he can win in the general election.  I base this on my insider knowledge of various samples of "NASCAR dads" - white, middle class blue collar types.  I've heard the jokes they tell when they think they're with kindred spirits.  I've been exposed to their lingering attitudes of racism and superiority.  These are the buttons the GOP strategists will be pushing in November if Obama is our candidate.  

            We're already hearing this from Karl Rove, calling Obama lazy.  This plays into the same racist strategy employed by Ronald Reagan who made it once again acceptable - even fashionable - for middle class whites to resent "those lazy n******s on welfare."  Was this part of the change that Obama said America was ready for when Reagan took office?  

            You might call it the "Sweet Home Alabama" attitude.  Its still out there new liberal, whether you choose to recognize it and acknowledge it or not.

            Don't get me wrong.  I will support his candidacy if he is our nominee.  I just fear that it is going to be a long hot summer of ugliness.  These unsavory connections from Obama's political past can only hurt in that regard.  They will put the campaign in continual fire-fighting mode regarding character issues, instead of being able to keep the electoral conversation focused on substantive issues facing our country.

            John McCain: He's not just crazy ...
            He's BATSHIT CRAZY!

            by kbman on Sat Jan 19, 2008 at 01:45:13 PM PDT

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    •  From the same article (20+ / 0-)

      The Illinois senator isn’t accused of any wrongdoing. And there’s no evidence Obama knew contributions to his 2004 U.S. Senate campaign came from schemes Rezko is accused of orchestrating

      SusanHu - what happened to you?  

      You should be TR'd for your inflammatory title.  All your titles really that never pan out.