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(Post-Debate) No, The Surge Is Not Working CNN

Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 05:10:16 PM PDT

Well, last night the Democrats had another debate. One that got particularly nasty, but it smoothed out later. As usual the media tried to make every question about race and gender. And for the most part both Hillary, and Obama handled it well.

But one question that has always been looming in the background, was on Iraq. One of the moderators, did his best to word the narrative that:

The Surge is Working

IT IS NOT......

Here is today's news

Suicide Bomber Attacks Iraqi School (HuffPo)

BAGHDAD — A suicide bomber pushing an electric heater on top of a cart packed with explosives attacked a high school north of Baghdad on Tuesday, killing a bystander and injuring 21 people _ mainly youngsters and teachers.

The school attack and other recent bombings against funerals and social gatherings raised the possibility that al-Qaida in Iraq has shifted tactics to focus on so-called soft targets and undermine public confidence that security is improving in Iraq....

Sounds like the surge is working, it just that it is the enemy's surge that worked, not ours. But the media, wavering like leaves in the wind, has now chosen to go with meme that "The Surge Worked". And last night at the debate was no different. Just because the media isn't reporting as vigorous, doesn't mean things are going great over there. Here's how it was slipped in at the debate:

JOHNS: Senator Clinton, on the Iraq question, we're here in South Carolina. It's a big military state with a lot of military families. Last week, U.S. military commanders on the ground in Iraq said that Baghdad is now 75 percent secured. There's also important signs of political progress, including de-Baathification, which was basically long awaited. That, of course, was a big benchmark.

Last week, you said the next president will, quote, "have a war to end in Iraq." In light of the new military and political progress on the ground there in Iraq, are you looking to end this war or win it?

(emphasis mine)

I want to break-down that highlighted phrase into the following section:

  1. U.S. military commanders on the ground in Iraq said that Baghdad is now 75 percent secured.
     
  2. There's also important signs of political progress, including de-Baathification, which was basically long awaited. That, of course, was a big benchmark.
     
  3. In light of the new military and political progress on the ground there in Iraq, are you looking to end this war or win it?
     
U.S. military commanders on the ground in Iraq said that Baghdad is now 75 percent secured.

First, we don't know what the U.S. military definition of "secured" is, which is different from the political definition of "secured". I'll take the military at it's word that Baghdad is 75% secured, however, that's tactical and does not infer anything else within Iraq. Yet, the way the CNN moderator phrased it, you would think Iraq consisted of only Baghdad.

Another aspect of this supposed "secured" situation is the returning of the troops. But from what I understand, some of the troops are being brought home, only to be sent off to Afghanistan, because of whacka-mole. The violence isn't decreasing, just rearing its' ugly head in Afghanistan, and Pakistan. Two places a majority of the media isn't covering. Thus, the media shows it's laziness, and Americans showcase their attention span. News Flash...we are in 2 wars and one gets almost no coverage, and one get a cheerleading squad. And I know we are all war-tired, but we should have thought about that before we gave this President great deference.

There's also important signs of political progress, including de-Baathification, which was basically long awaited. That, of course, was a big benchmark.

Yes, de-Baathification was a bench mark, but it not happening. There is so much strife between these "Awakening" sunni groups and the Shia controlled "government" (I used the term loosely) that the political goals will never be met. The iraqi government has voiced it's anger at the US for arming these militia groups. It likes arming the Bloods and the Cripts, then expecting them to play nice with law enforcement. Let the media tell it, benchmarks are being met, but they are not.

In light of the new military and political progress on the ground there in Iraq, are you looking to end this war or win it?

The media has just as much to loose with the fake war in Iraq. If there is a silver lining, it is that the Iraq war exposed the neocon methodology as dangerously flawed, exposed right-wing stenographers posing as journalist like Judy Miller, and Michael Gordon, and exposed just how intertwined the two are, thus showcasing the need for true independent media. Fortunately, there are still some good journalist out there but as to the "...end this war or win it.." framing alot of journalist have been using lately, it is important for Democrats to articulate that the Surge is not working, but moreover that it was never intended to work, thus "winning" was never an objective. Take a look at the following articles over the last month and half and tell me the surge is working:


I think not.....

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  •  Tip, Rec'd (1+ / 0-)

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    markthshark

    I'm tired of this meme

  •  Send Reporters To Iraq (2+ / 0-)

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    markthshark, sephius1

    If I was one of the candidates I would have told Johns that I would be happy to send Mr. Johns to Iraq so he can PERSONALLY go around Bagdad to those 75% secured areas (no military escort needed I'm sure)and report how great the Surge(TM) has worked.

    You are right, we need to call BS on the "Surge Succeeded" meme the Corporate Media is shoving down our throats.  And the best way to do that is to go on the offense and make them prove that the Surge has worked so well by flying their arses over there and reporting live how well it is doing and not taking our Military's word for it.  While there over there they can help the military find the WMDs and all those 9/11 terrorists.

    John McCain: GIs don't need no stinkin' college.

    by howd on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 05:34:48 PM PDT

  •  Of course it's not "working"... (3+ / 0-)

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    BrooklynJohnny, markthshark, sephius1

    2007 was the deadliest year yet in terms of casualties.  This January, casualties are increasing.  We're wasting $2.5 billion per week, $10 billion per month and upwards of $800 billion so far with estimates up to $2 trillion once it's over.  The electricity situation remains horrible, but we don't know the extent because they stopped compiling and releasing figures.  There is no oil revenue-sharing law - the distributions presently are made on the basis of corruption, clout and bribery.  There are no constitutional amendments  - they have only formed a committee to discuss it.  The security and police forces are infested with militia members.  The borders remain open for smuggling of contraband and weapons.  A Kurdish minority is fomenting a war with Turkey.  Despite the NIE, which the lying Bush disowned, we continue to pursue a war with Iran.  Violence in Baghdad has gone down, but up elsewhere.

    GITMO remains open (despite the eminently respected UN liar Colin Powell calling for it to be closed "yesterday.")  The worldwide gulag remains open for business.  The torture tapes were destroyed.  The torturers were immunized.  Non-military U.S. agencies continue to possess the capacity to torture.

    The army and the reserves are being depleted.  Many are going on tour-after-tour-after tour.  There STILL isn't enough body armor or armored vehicles.  They haven't got the raise as yet.  Walter Reed.

    And, to top it all off, the whole never-ending nightmare was a boneheaded strategic blunder in the first place.  Al Qaeda has reconstituted itself in Waziristan.  Pakistan is far less stable.  NATO is on the defensive in Afghanistan.  There were never any Iraqi nukes.

    D.C. is out to lunch on this.  Only in Washington is the surge supported.

    "As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly."

    by Viceroy on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 05:39:19 PM PDT

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