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Politics paints with a palette of emotions: What's a girl to do?

Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 11:44:20 PM PDT

Especially a gilas girl...(?)   Oh my.  

This is not an easy bit of fluff to write.  The use and abuse of emotions in politics is not a minor matter to me. The various registers of emotions that politics engage goes beyond the two dimensional approach that political commentary forces us to occupy. My own emotions, though quite powerful, are not something I share easily with others.  My politics, as well, are something that I both think and feel to very great degrees.  They resonate in me: my politics and my emotions.  And often, they come together, though not generally in any kind of scenarios provided for by the conventional wisdom of US political culture.  
 

Politics, many folks--including experts--will claim is about power.  And there's no denying that.  But politics is also about meaning and engagement, and those two things are not achieved without addressing our emotions.  This is, and has been, a liberal dilemma for the last 30+ years.  The last emotional highpoint of liberal politics was the Civil Rights Movement.  From that point on the conservatives fully captured the politics of emotions and the liberals' response has been to deny emotion as a reasonable aspect of political engagement.  Our two-dimensional political system does not serve us well, and this is but one example of why that is. The accepted conventional wisdom on this dilemma has been to eschew emotions in favor of liberal wonkism: numbers and data and reason and logic can overcome the "emotionality" of issues (see abortion).  Liberals, who were at one point supposed to be about representing people's interests and connecting those to power, became the group that wonked everyone else out of the room.  When I was a child, the insult of choice was to call someone a "bleeding heart liberal", i.e. those who had liberal political leanings led with their hearts rather than their heads.  This, I think is a product of the Civil Rights Movement, where emotion became an important political tool.  

But that was then and this is now.  What's interesting to me is that it is the conservatives who learned more in regard to emotions and politics  from the Civil Rights Movement than did the liberals. And I don't think that liberals, and even the left, have gone beyond the Civil Rights Movement in their thinking about emotion and politics.  I'm pretty sure this is a deficiency, but I'm not so sure that I can explain why.  

I'm still not quite sure what to do with this topic.  It overwhelms me in ways that are frightening.  But I know both in my head, and in my heart that it is important.  And its not something I'm confident we know how to talk about.

I keep stumbling over it because of the Bush Administration and the use they have made of emotions as a political tool.  I stumble over it because of the commercial media culture we live and thrive in which packages our emotions into easily digestible tablets for ready consumption.  But I stumble over it also, because I know that my head, my heart and my hands are the key to any political action I might engage in.  The heads, hearts and hands of all the people who came before me are what brought me the political legacy I now benefit from. And none of those three component should be minimized.  Yet, I also recognize, especially in this day and age, how vulnerable a target the second one is.  Of those three component that make up the political, the heart is the easiest to manipulate.  It is the easiest tool to wield.  

For many folks then, the answer would be, eliminate emotions from politics.  No easy task, that, but even if it were, I'm not sure its desirable.  Because politics do have to engage our emotions.  This is the primary lesson of the Civil Rights Movement for me.  It was only by engaging the public in a recognition of a collective emotion: shame, that real political change was achieved.  So emotions are not separate from politics, nor are they separate from public life.  The question remains how to incorporate emotion without exploiting them into the public arena.  And how to do it genuinely, authentically, rather than commercially and formulaically.  

I wish I had an answer to this dilemma.  But for me it is a relief simply to state it out loud.  I yearn for conversations about it, rather than the basic acceptance of "it goes without saying" that we live with on a day-day basis.  

The current political palette, as I see it, is anchored by three emotional shadings: fear, shame, and hope.  These are the three that stand out to me, at least.  The three that occupy me the most, for reasons of personal biography, primarily.  I suspect I need help in uncovering the other emotional palettes employed in the construction of reality that is contemporary US politics. I invite that help where ever it is offered.

Fear

There's a lot that's been written on the politics of fear, some of its very smart, so I shall not attempt to broach this subject.  Only to note that it doesn't work with me.  The people I'm most afraid of in this world are the Republican leaders in the United States.  Its been that way for a long time.  If a "politics of fear" really worked, then we would have found a way to get rid of the leaders of the Republican Party.  At least, that's the way I see it.  If I had to put it in a slogan I'm afraid it would have to be: "I'm not afraid of terrorists, I'm afraid of Republicans".  And I'm afriad that would be true.  I am more afraid of people in my own country than I am of people outside of it.  I am afraid of corporate CEOs.  I am afraid of evangelicals.  I am afraid of white racists.  I am afraid of US Chauvanists.  I am afraid of militarists.  I am, at times, afraid of liberals, even.  But I'm not afraid of immigration, and I'm not afraid of terrorists, and I'm not afraid of peak oil, and I'm not afraid of the end of American global dominance.  i can't be afraid of losing my house, because i already have.  And I can't be afraid of losing my health, because I already have.  And I can't be afraid of lising my job, because I alreayd have.  So the only thing that's left for me to be afraid of, is all the stuff that everybody else cherishes.  Now tell me, what does that do to a "politics of fear"?

Shame

The politics of shame is something I can't think about without thinking about Abu Graib and Guantanomo.  I'm struck, time and again, by how our government has used shame as a political tool in the interest of very questionable power.  My only experience with shame as a political tool in the past, was with the Civil Rights Movement, where shame was utilitzed in the interest of progressive social change.  This one hits me hard, in the gut, and without a sense of where to go.  But it is an important lesson about tools and goals and underlying ideologies.  The Bush administration has dirtied shame for me, so that I no longer feel comfortable feeling shame.  I don't know what to do with that at the moment, but I know that it comes to me via politics.  

Hope

For weeks now, I've been scanning my brain for all the political references I have for "hope". The politics of hope, of course,  is not a new item.  Its familiar goods to me.  I worry sometimes that hope, while clearly the most transportable and translatable of our emotions into a political lexicon is also the most easily exploitable. The list of my own references, easily accessible in my head is surprising long for an inside the head list, but here are some of the more famed highlights: "Hope is the thing with feathers" (Emily Dickinson), "To eat bread without hope is still slowly to starve to death" (Pearl S. Buck), "Keep Hope Alive" (Jesse Jackson), "A Man from Hope" (Bill Clinton), "Hope Dies Last" (Studs Turkel, et. al).  Hope is familiar.  Hope is accessible.  But that does not mean that hope is a cheap date.

Five times in my life I have awakened on the other side of a suicide attempt. Five times I've gotten up out of bed after wanting never to see daylight. Hope does not come cheap.  Hope is not something I take lightly.  Nor is my relationship to hope something I am willing to turn over to patent medicine hawkers and their decendants.  So I feel some amount of confidence in stating that hope is not easily manufactured, no matter how stirring the rhetoric.  Hope is built upon things more tangible no matter how far out of reach they may be.

I don't want to eliminate hope or shame or even fear from our political pictures.  I don't expect they will be eliminated.  But I can't help thinking if we are equally blessed and cursed with our emotions let us paint with them honestly.  

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  •  Anger tends to play a big role too n/t (3+ / 0-)

  •  Here's a potential Democratic srategy... (1+ / 0-)

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    Campaign with one's heart and then govern with one's head?

  •  Your fears... (2+ / 0-)

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    are remarkably the same as mine. I couldn't count how many times I've found myself singing David Bowie's, "I'm afraid of Americans" over the last 7 years. I've also always been afraid of what I call the Good American Citizen. That's the person who'll call the police to report they smelled pot when they walked by their neighbor's house. And such.

  •  I voted white. I voted that for possibility-- (0+ / 0-)

    (despite my urge to vote "blue")--the dream of a blank slate we surely
    don't have, but which so much of our pain, personal and political, lies
    behind.

    But I stumble over it also, because I know that my head, my heart and my hands are the key to any political action I might engage in.  The heads, hearts and hands of all the people who came before me are what brought me the political legacy I now benefit from. And none of those three component should be minimized.

    I don't know what else to say but that I agree with this.

    It is never too late to be what you might have been [especially now] George Eliot

    by begone on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:02:39 AM PDT

    •  its funny (1+ / 0-)

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      but "red" is still my most important political color: I'm a leftist and and internationalist, so I can't let the pettiness of US politics disrupt my political palatte.  

      But these days, my redophilia is coming into a tight competition to lean "green".  

      All things must change, but the forces that lead us to change are different for all of us, yes?

      Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

      by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:12:11 AM PDT

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      •  Yes. I agree. I'm a little bit red (out there) & (0+ / 0-)

        pretty blue (here in the US of A) and also green when
        it comes to landscapes everywhere.

        Guess that's why, among other reasons, I chose white.

        It is never too late to be what you might have been [especially now] George Eliot

        by begone on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:19:38 AM PDT

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  •  The Anti War, Environmental and Womens' Movements (4+ / 0-)

    were all after the emerging Civil Rights struggles and were quite emotional.

    Anti-[Vietnam]-war, well, it contributed to a battle win and a war loss. The military intelligence complex has long had veto power over Constitutional government in practice if not on parchment. I don't even dream of rationality touching the empire in my remaining half century of life.

    The women's movement was crushed as far as Constitutional establishment, but culturally and economically achieved a major fraction of its goals.

    The environmental movement, although it has never achieved remotely what the planet truly needs it to achieve, has been probably the biggest winner other than civil rights in the context of American politics. (American politics having been defined and codified without the least conception that humans could change or exterminate their species or radically alter the entire planet.)

    It's not environmentalism's fault that it has to operate in our society and system of government which gives vast power and freedoms to its opposition despite their threats to the planet.

    We're too shy about emotion on our side but I think it's not because of process but because of what would be expected of leadership if they dared inspire. And the consequences that would fall upon them from ownership.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:23:43 AM PDT

    •  its a little tricky though (1+ / 0-)

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      for the woman's movement to stake out an emotional territory, which is why, I believe, they staked out at "rational" one vis-a-vis abortion.  (And why they lost ground, too, IMHO).  

      Emotions are tricky in politics, and in many ways, mainstream liberals sought the easy way out by simply trying to forgo them altother for a good 30 years.  That's one of the reasons that contemporary emotional appeals, when they do happen, ring "tinny", to my mind.  We aren't prepared for them so we have only two options: embrace or dismiss them.  Mock or fall victim.  Its not just the politicians fault, we out in the general public don't go about responsibily with our emotions either.

      Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

      by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:32:52 AM PDT

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  •  Fear, in particular, as wielded by the GOP, (0+ / 0-)

    coupled with shame (to evoke liberal guilt) are the two weapons the opposite party uses to try to stifle hope.

    "Go well through life"-Me (As far as I know) Newly added-You don't have to put an age limit on your dreams. Dara Torres-Beijing Olympics

    by MTmofo on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:45:12 AM PDT

    •  I must confess (5+ / 0-)

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      of the three I singled out, the contemporary political use of "hope" has me the most disgusted. And that really is saying something.  I'm pissed off as hell about the casual use of "hope" in the current campaign.

      I do not like it, at all.

      Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

      by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 12:55:51 AM PDT

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      •  Hope has been an abused word for (0+ / 0-)

        political purposes since MLK (in particular) invoked it.  By that I mean, in contemporary politics it has been virtually stripped of its significance for the everyday American.  It has become a convenient emotional sop.

        "Go well through life"-Me (As far as I know) Newly added-You don't have to put an age limit on your dreams. Dara Torres-Beijing Olympics

        by MTmofo on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 01:04:24 AM PDT

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        •  i think the abuse of it (2+ / 0-)

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          comes post MLK to be honest. Its one of the drawbacks of being an "inspiring orator" in a culture where imitation and fascimile are easily and rapidly traded. The rise of consultants that came about post-Civil Rights Era is no small contributor to this phenomenon.  Not MLK's doing at all, but the overall "industrial" and "professional" trends.  

          Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

          by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 01:08:47 AM PDT

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  •  How about plaid for a color? Its all part of (0+ / 0-)

    life's rich tapestry, even the disappointments.

  •  the hesitance to deal with emotion (6+ / 0-)

    seems to me to be part and parcel with the inability to deal with metaphor and narrative and idea. all that lakoff stuff that everyone bawdlerized into marketing slogans.

    mostly, though, i think that it comes from not having a politics rooted in the actual people who populate our party at the voter level. that is a result of having a party apparatus that just has no connections with actual people most of the time, and a long term ideological war that has been waged on the left by the democratic party, going back to '48's purges and the falling out of henry wallace.

    i know what i believe, and what i feel. having those emotions languish, untapped, or worse yet pandered to in slogan but never ever in substance, can be deeply upsetting, and i think it drives a great deal of the pathos in the many online fractures of the left.

    it is the emotion that made dean the phenomenon that he was. he was unguarded, and therein lay his appeal. i don't see anything like that sort of emotion these days, even as the situation has grown far more dire.

    surf putah, your friendly neighborhood central valley samizdat

    by wu ming on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 01:02:23 AM PDT

    •  i think as well (3+ / 0-)

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      that alot has to do with the rise of professional wordsmiths, and metorphorists in the world of advertising, consulting, etc. When we try to professionalize and industrialize these functions, their meaning and their value (and their ability to connect to us) changes.

      But you are right that we should never forget the ideological wars against the left. Purposeful.  

      Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

      by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 01:05:51 AM PDT

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      •  it really is puzzling (4+ / 0-)

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        to know things, know them in your bones, and yet never hear anyone in the public eye give voice to them.

        in a sense, it's what was and to some degree still is so compelling about the blogs. thousands of people talking back, in their own language, from their own experience, with their own raw emotions, and nothing that the teevee or the important people could do about it.

        the harmony from that moment, when we all collectively realized that there were others like us, and that we weren't crazy for feeling what we did, was really something.

        it's been tamped down a lot, in the service of respectability or electability or conformity, just as most such spontaneous eruptions are, but that potential revealed itself, and gave me no small amount of hope.

        the trick is getting that kind of horizontal connection out there again, without allowing ourselves to be browbeaten into policing our own thoughts to accord with the tortured mores of the broken status quo. to speak as we are.

        and then, the real problem, how to build a counterhegemony through that discussion, and maybe even pull the important people into our groove.

        it happens, historically, at odd moments of crisis.

        surf putah, your friendly neighborhood central valley samizdat

        by wu ming on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 01:14:01 AM PDT

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        •  maybe I'm more cynical than you (1+ / 0-)

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          i don't see it as all that puzzling, rather I see as part of the force of "growth".  As groups get larger, the pressure toward conformity to a dominant viewpoint (a "dominant center" if you like, though there's no requirement it actually be centrist) is simply part of the dynamic.  Real awareness has to be part of the interactions from that point, in order to help counterbalance it.  That is, a specific effort to counterbalance it has to be made.  Most of the time, that effort isn't in place because the will against the conformity isn't there. Conformity, for the most part equals comfort, especially if you've been raised in a culture that tells you conformity IS comfort, like ours does. we don't encourage outside the boxness anywhere in this culture, so even in our cultural vanguard (as the blogs once were), we don't see alot of it.  And when those cultural vanguard move closer to the mainstream, then its even less likely that the non- or anti-conformist tendencies are going to be encouraged, or even nurtured.  

          We don't live in a culture that nurtures the stuff you and I are poking about looking for.  

          Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

          by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 01:23:30 AM PDT

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          •  "democracy doesn't scale" (1+ / 0-)

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            I've had that phrase in my head for a while now, regarding matters like this.  

            I remember the book "Wisdom of Crowds" had some interesting food for thought on that.  Basically, the theory was that for a crowd to be able to continue evolving under its own power without getting dumbed down by conformity, it would have to have four qualities:  "(1) diversity of opinion; (2) independence of members from one another; (3) decentralization; and (4) a good method for aggregating opinions."

            I don't think it quite nails it, but it's a good starting point.  This site tried its best, but it has structural biases that lead to conformity and homogenization.  The reclist approach was good for a site 1/4 the size it is now, but diaries that would have intense interest to a niche few don't have a chance of getting exposed to others that would also relate.  Diversity of opinion and Decentralization are both muted here.  

            Not so much in the internet at large.  Any group of people can set up a blog together... although, the format has gotten popular enough that it is again harder to break through into the mainstream.  (All of which has been discussed in countless "long tail" discussions online.)

            (obviously I'm a technocrat.)

            •  the main thing lacking (2+ / 0-)

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              was a desire to counterbalance the conformity. the desires and the purpose of the site lay in other directions and those where accomplished.  The stuff that you and wu ming and I are looking for isn't what the site wanted to be and thus spake the site. I think that's probably one of the reasons we're having this conversation at 5:39 am EST rather than pm, for example.

              Still, I love the conversations whenever they take place and God, Heaven and the 7-11 know I'm grateful for them and for y'all.

              Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

              by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 02:40:10 AM PDT

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        •  damn you wu ming (0+ / 0-)

          I wish I could recommend that fifty times.  I probably seem sort of crazy how I pop up and compliment you from time to time but I seem to respond more to your comments than anyone else's on this blasted site.  you writing anywhere else more regularly?  I wish you and likeminded folks could just get together in an online group discussion / roundtable kind of format.  I could talk about this kind of thing for ages.

    •  So much truth here ... (1+ / 0-)

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      ...with this line needing repeating in a thousand on-line forums: all that lakoff stuff that everyone bawdlerized into marketing slogans.

      Me, I keep at least 75% of my emotions bottled up these days for fear that releasing them would have unfortunate repercussions for me and those around me. I don't mean violence.

      I am an anti-imperialist. I am opposed to having the eagle put its talons on any other land. -- Mark Twain

      by Meteor Blades on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 03:52:48 AM PDT

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  •  interesting; one observation: (0+ / 0-)

    going some decades back, I notice you don't mention Vietnam or the cold war, but rather only the civil rights movement and then more recent events like Abu Gharib.  When I was in school, up through high school at least (graduating 1984), Vietnam was very much alive in everyone's consciousness.  It was an area full and throbbing with anger and shame.  And the cold war was fear fear fear.  I wonder if you are a younger person.  When I think back to the political climate of the late 70s and the early 80s, it was all highly charged with Vietnam, the cold war, among other things.  It's perhaps unfortunate to say, but by that time the civil rights movement loomed much smaller in the public political consciousness than other things.

    •  and in fact (0+ / 0-)

      I would go so far as to say that maybe the last "emotional highpoint of liberal politics" (though in anger, not hope) was opposition to Vietnam (which peaked around 1969~1970), rather than the civil rights movement which peaked earlier.

      •  well for me (3+ / 0-)

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        they are inextricably combined. I remember well MLK's movement from Civil Rights into War protesting.  The Vietnam war "ended" when I was 15 years old.  From the time I was born until I was 15 years old, that war was part of my everyday life, in the form of tv news, protests, whatever.  I also lived in Georgia, so the My Lai and the Calley trials were an enormous influence.  But I grew up in a very conservative place/environment so the "emotions" were all attributed to the "liberals", hence "bleeding heart liberal" I guess.   What I meant, but obviously didn't express very well, was how the movement purposefully and successfully used emotion as part of its political practice.  "Shame" wasn't just an emotion they were trying to invoke, "shame" was the very basis of the non-violent action that made up the Civil Rights Movement.  It was deeply incorporated into the actions themselves.  That's really very different from the way that the anti-war movement just tried to invoke "anger" or "shame" (even, tho that was far less successful).  The anti-war movement's use of emotion was more superficial in a sense, than was the Civil Right's use of it.  It harkened back farther to the way labor used "hope", not just as an emotional response to their actions (how the anti-war movement tried to used emotion, and how, for the most part, politics today is using it), but as part of the fabric of the action.  That in the very action itself is hope and through action your own hope will be restored, reinvigorated, etc.  Its different as I see it, though I'm probably not expressing it very well.  

        I'm obviously older than you are, however.  By the 80's the Vietnam war wasn't being fought anymore, except in metaphoracal and cultural terms: with films and crap. So the real "anti-war movement" was also over, but that did mark the beginning of the "anti-anti-war movement" that the right wing relentlessly waged.  By the 80's the conservatives had taken over and the emotions, the politics and the tactics were all moving in opposing directions.

        Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

        by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 01:35:34 AM PDT

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      •  I'm not sure (0+ / 0-)

        I'd call the opposition ot Vietnam the "emotional highpoint of liberal politics".  I'd call it deeply emotional, but emotional in a way very different from what had been before. See my comment above for a little bit more in depth explanation.

        Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

        by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 01:37:00 AM PDT

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    •  As a 1975 HS grad, the sense for me was (2+ / 0-)

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      one of certain amount of relief in that the Vietnam war was done.  But knowing fully well that the Cold War was still in play.  But, the Cold War, for me, was pretty much a non-issue.  At that formative age, the Civil Rights movement was front and center to me.  The upheaval surrounding recovering from Vietnam ran neck and neck for second.

      For me, there was a combining of the two in that arrogant, pridefully "strong" white men thought that they were the only ones to determine the existence of individual Americans.  The "because I said so" patriarchal mindset so chafed me.

      And that is when I became a Democrat.

      "Go well through life"-Me (As far as I know) Newly added-You don't have to put an age limit on your dreams. Dara Torres-Beijing Olympics

      by MTmofo on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 01:33:46 AM PDT

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      •  This resonates more with my memories (1+ / 0-)

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        of how issues played out at the time, tho I graduated high school a handful of years after you(count em on one hand).  My sense is that anti-war sentiment was more at its peak in the very early 70's, with the 72 election being the marker, after which it died off slowly until the fall of Saigon.

        Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

        by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 01:42:32 AM PDT

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        •  D'accord n/t (0+ / 0-)

          "Go well through life"-Me (As far as I know) Newly added-You don't have to put an age limit on your dreams. Dara Torres-Beijing Olympics

          by MTmofo on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 01:45:44 AM PDT

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        •  ah. I understand (1+ / 0-)

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          I have to defer to you and MTmofo's better recollections in this regard. (It's interesting--I am definitely in a different generation, or from a different cultural background, as for example I think of Vietnam and the civil rights movement as very much two separable things; it must be because they were so removed in time by the time I grew, unlike you and MTmofo.)  

          And now I also get it that you are approaching this from the point of view of uses of emotions by liberals, rather than uses of it in American politics more generally.  I think of the 1980s as vaguely filled with exploitation of emotions (national pride, cold war fears, even a sort of contrived middle-class frustration about big government)--all of which was exploitation by conservatives.  

          •  Explotation of emotions yes (0+ / 0-)

            that's been the sort of "dominant" approach to emotions the last 30 years or so: if emotions are present they are buttons to be pushed as a form of manipulation, not something that part of the fabric of politics.  

            There are other ways to think about it; I mean progressive politics have always been deeply tied to human emotions, but not in a "button pushing" sort of way.  The question for me is not, how to eliminate emotions from politics, but how to paint our political landscapes with more genuine emotional palettes.

            Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

            by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 02:15:28 AM PDT

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      •  thank you MTmofo (1+ / 0-)

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        one of the things I appreciate about dKos is I get to hear experiences of people such as yourself.

        It was very late in my life when I became a, uh, confirmed Democrat. Like around 1993. In part as I grew up in an apolitical household, and Reagan had quite a spell among the neighborhoods and schools where I was, though I set off for a liberal college in 1984. In my case, my political beliefs matured in the early 1990s when I finally started to read and learn of these things (I was just a geek through all my schooling), and I just felt so angry and insulted at having been fed such tons of lies all those years till then.

    •  Why no mention of the Cold War (0+ / 0-)

      It seems to me the Cold War is precisely the place where liberals began to abandon the emotional politics of things like the Civil Rights Movement and adopted wonkery as a juxtaposition to emotions, probably because of the rise of Cold War Hawks and the dominance of Conservatives in Foreign Policy thinking and policy making.  But that's just an off the cuff thought rather than one I've researched.

      Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

      by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 01:39:10 AM PDT

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  •  Our candidates should use whatever they can. (5+ / 0-)

    My mother was born in ’51, post-war South Korea.   She died a little while ago, cancer.  
    When people ask me about her, I tell this story.

    A little girl, her growth stunted to 3ft, one leg unable to bend at the knee, walked from orphanage in which she lived to school.  Life was hard, and children are cruel.

    Five girls, students at that same school, waited for her.  When she came into view they began laughing, pointing, throwing rocks.  

    Running was nearly impossible—she had to endure the attack until they gave up.
     
    This became that little girl’s daily ritual.

    The girl, bruised and crying at the orphanage, was met by another girl.  This girl listened to the story of the attacks, and moved by it, decided to take action.  Bear in mind, there were no adults to call, or people who cared—these were orphans in a nation recently destroyed by war.  They were alone.

    The girl who listened had a plan.

    She got up early and found place to hide along the bruised girl’s walk to school.  She waited.

    The bruised girl walked—the five girls showed up and began their daily ritual.  But, today was different.

    The hiding girl charged at the pack of them, a rock in one hand.  The five girls ran at the sight of her.

    As the five girls ran she yelled behind, "If I ever see any of you again, I’ll kill you."

    She meant it, and they knew it.

    They never bothered the bruised girl again.

    After that day, the fighting girl, my mother, walked the bruised girl, my "aunt" to school every day.  They became the best of friends.  They looked out for one another for the rest of my mother’s days.  

    My mother would never tell this story.  My aunt, however, told me every time she could.  

    Why am I telling you this story?  

    Because, when you are right, and you know it, and the time to fight arises, pick up the rock--don’t be afraid to use it.

    •  But sometimes the rock (1+ / 0-)

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      is an emotional response, like shame.

      Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

      by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 01:44:17 AM PDT

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      •  use everything (2+ / 0-)

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        fear, shame, hope..

        There are real people hurting, do what it takes to win.

        When you become active politically, you become a guardian.

        It becomes your job to fight and win.

        If you arent willing to do whatever it takes, there is someone else who will.

        •  But I do think it depends on (2+ / 0-)

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          how you use them.  They aren't just empty containers to be picked up as tools, which is the way they are approached in the contemporary political culture.  I disagree with that, for any number of reasons, but one obvious one is that such a use dulls them for the times/contexts where, when wielded appropriately they would be the right tools.

          Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

          by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 01:53:42 AM PDT

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          •  it's a presidential election (0+ / 0-)

            for a nation in crisis.

            is now not the time?

            •  now is the time to use the right tools (2+ / 0-)

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              of course, if our candidates know how to use them.  I'm just far less confident than you, obviously, that they know what kind of political tools emotion in the service of progressive social change can be.  I guess that's why I wrote the diary, but I didn't come right out and say it.  

              I don't feel that they are in an environment, or that they have been in an environment where they could or would use my emotions and those of my fellow citizens to a positive end. And I'm trying to ferret out some of the reasons both why I personally feel this way, and what the circumstances are that prevent this.

              I really need to work on my middle of the night prose, its very discombobulated.

              Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

              by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 02:04:50 AM PDT

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              •  well you're a liberal :) (0+ / 0-)

                you will be suspicious for the rest your days :)

                i know that you want them to "do it better", I do too.

                So few people throughout our history could really nail it, but being able to nail it should not be the criteria.

                otherwise we will be waiting forever for someone who may not show up.

                And. eliciting emotion from speech and writing wont wear out or break.  Some of the memes will, but those change.

                Our field is pretty good at tapping emotions, sometimes they do it badly, sometimes theyre great.  But, not doing it well does not mean you shouldn't get in there and use what ya got.

                Kinda like sex, being bad at it doesn't mean you shouldn't do it as often as you can.

                •  actually (1+ / 0-)

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                  I'm not a liberal, and please don't call me one.  I'm a leftist.

                  Lots of people have nailed it though, not necessarily through speeches, but through movement work, being part of all that.  I suppose that's part of why I'm so adament about it, I know it can be done because it has.  

                  I've yet to see anyone in our field who's "great" at tapping emotions, even really "good" at it.  I've seen folks who are adequate at today's standard of invoking emotions superficially.  That's part of the motivation for my diary, I guess.

                  And like sex, I'd point out that "bad sex" can be a whole lot more than just not being satisfying.  I've seen a lot of people hurt by "bad sex", so I'm not one of those who goes forth saying even bad sex is better than no sex.    

                  Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

                  by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 02:20:29 AM PDT

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                •  BTW: Thank you (1+ / 0-)

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                  Your comments have really helped me see how bad a diary I threw out there.  I really wasn't thinking clearly at all when I wrote it, and your comments have been immensely helpful in clarifying my own thoughts.  So a very genuine thank you.

                  Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

                  by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 02:22:43 AM PDT

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    •  and they should only use it if it is (1+ / 0-)

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      genuine to them and to the circumstance with which they are dealing.  That rock doesn't translate to every situation, even though it worked for your mother and your aunt.  

      For your aunt, I'd say the real "instrument" wasn't the rock, but your mother.

      Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

      by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 01:45:50 AM PDT

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  •  beautiful diary (1+ / 0-)

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    I don't think there is enough written about emotion in general - the valid part it plays in our everyday experience.

    Shame is an interesting one.  I usually think of shame in terms of being ashamed.  I don't see it as a root emotion.  I see it as a corruption; or, an emotion mixed with a judgment against the emotion.  Like, fear, while feeling we shouldn't be afraid.  Similar to how frustration is just rage, while feeling we shouldn't be angry.  Wist from joy.  Depression from grief.

    But you're talking about people shaming others.  I'm not sure what that is.  On the part of the shamer, it is cruelty... it is attempting to inhibit another's free will.  One of the worst crimes.  I mean, if one's basic philosophy is "free will except where it inhibits that of another", then, inhibiting another's free will is the worst crime.  

    As far as the person being shamed... I don't know what emotion that is.  Deep terror.  I guess it still goes back to fear.  

    I have a difficult relationship with hope, though.  I don't see myself as an unhappy person, but I don't think in terms of hope.  I think I just think in terms of vector.  Are we heading in the right direction?  If so, good - I don't have the expectations of what comes next, of when it comes.  The direction is good enough.  It protects me from having my hopes crushed, while still enabling me to be optimistic.  I think you can know what direction feels right and feels wrong, even if you don't see exactly where it's headed.

    And if we aren't going in the right direction, then it gives me something to focus on - how to nudge, how to change course.

    (This probably makes me seem like an Obama supporter.  I'm not.  I don't get a sense of his direction.)

    •  I tend to think of shame (3+ / 0-)

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      as the mechanism that keeps us humanly decent: if we didn't feel shame then we'd turn into monsters, and I think this is the reason I'm so paralyzed by my own realization of how "shame" has become a tool of political power in the Bush/Cheney war against terror.  

      Its just hideous that the response that's supposed to keep us human (and humane) is being used for such vile purposes in covert operations worldwide. Shame is now a weapon of power against Muslim prisoners.  This recognition rocks me to my very core and makes me wonder, in ways that nothing else has or does, if hope is really so viable anymore.  My fear is that it is no longer viable for me because of this.  Thus, I've tied them altogeher in my disgust of the Bush/Cheney administration. (Probably more info than you wanted, sorry)

      Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

      by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 02:31:37 AM PDT

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      •  no, it's okay (0+ / 0-)

        and interesting to me because I've never looked at shame in that way.  

        I guess I don't have that view of shame in my model.  Maybe I don't see our base root instincts as being things that need to be regulated with shame.  That seems to me to be an inherently pessimistic view of human nature...?  

        I think it is very, very, very easy for all of us to be corrupted, though.  And we can get confused about whether the corruptions or the elements that have been corrupted are our root nature.  

        I guess I also believe that where we're "corrupted" is nothing for us to be hard on ourselves about, either.  As long as we have good intent and are working on unclenching it.

        Shame just seems to me to be a way of saying, "You should not be what you are."  I guess I just centrally disagree with that statement.  (Recognizing that that is only my way of looking at shame.)

        •  I don't see shame as so (0+ / 0-)

          self-scrutizing, in the sense of "you shouldn't be what you are", or wrt "self-esteem" or something like that.  I really do see it having a social function. I just see it as one of those responses to awful things that happen in the world, a kind of safety mechanism, if you will, since the the world presents so many opportunities for human beings to be inhumane, shame is one of those things that puts us back on kilter, if we go off.

          Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

          by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 02:55:57 AM PDT

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    •  About hope (0+ / 0-)

      most of my thoughts about hope and politics come from movement stuff, I must admit.  That bias is probably clear in the post.

      On a personal level, I'm having to "redefine" a relationship with hope, that's proving very tricky for me. But its not a small matter in my case, because "hope", along with massive amounts of medication, is one of the few things keeping my head out of the oven, literally.

      Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

      by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 02:35:07 AM PDT

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      •  yeah... (0+ / 0-)

        I can roughly identify with that too.  At least in my past.  

        Hope is so tricky because it often times involves setting up an expectation.  Placed in the future.  Which by definition means that there is a gulf between now and then.  And as we all know, anything can happen between now and then.  Which makes it really easy to have that expectation fail.

        So I've often felt like it's been a dance of having that expectation without really having it.  Kind of like how you're not supposed to look at an eclipse.

        I think that's why I started thinking of it in terms of vector.

        •  that's pretty cool (0+ / 0-)

          the vector stuff I mean.  If I had a more scientific mind, I might be able to respond more intelligently, but mostly, I'm processing it through the metaphors, so there you have it.

          Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

          by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 02:57:32 AM PDT

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    •  Shame (1+ / 0-)

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      is an interesting emotion.  The tendency that I have seen in myself and in other people is to try and repress the cause of shame.  

      This is one of the reasons, I think, why so much anger is directed at those who report things like the abuses in Iraq.  And why the stories never get much traction.  

  •  root emotions (0+ / 0-)

    I wrote about this a bit above, but I've believed for a while that there are only four root emotions - grief, fear, rage, and joy.

    None of them are "negative" or "positive" emotions.  I think rage can be an incredibly constructive emotion.  

    One of the things that frustrated me about Dean's candidacy is that I really did believe that it was about rage.  It frustrated me because all the pundits talked about him being the angry candidate, angry supporters - as a way to roll their eyes at him.

    But that was just showing their judgments against rage... and I don't remember people actually wrestling that on the merits - sticking up for rage.

    I should note that I see rage as being very, VERY different than violence.  Violence is a corruption of rage.  Rage itself is pure - it is the reconnecting of self-respect, of proclaiming to oneself and to others that you won't be pushed back any more.  It's an insistence of the self, and it is sometimes desperately necessary.

    The Dean candidacy was about that insistence of the collective self.  

    So yes, I'd definitely vote for rage as one of the other emotions that can be tapped.  Not the kind that exhorts people to violence, or hurting others.  But the kind that is about reconnecting to strength.

    And I'd agree that none of the candidates do what Dean did.  Edwards comes closest, but his message is curiously unconnected somehow.

    •  I don't tend to think of emotions (1+ / 0-)

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      on a negative/positive axis, so...like you I find emotions can be very constructive. I'd add that rage is often connected to a sense of justice although that connection may not be straight-forward, or even healthy.

      Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

      by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 03:00:17 AM PDT

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    •  The problem with rage (0+ / 0-)

      is the effect it has on others.

      In an arguement people will frequently conclude that the winner is the person who kept their cool, and the loser the one who gets angry.  

      This is why being tagged with the "angry" label is so devistating in politics (which is really just one long argument.

      •  rage so easy (0+ / 0-)

        to juxtapose against "reason" especially in the repetoires of professional wordsmiths and "bawlderdizers" to use wu ming's eloquent language. Its also associated with violence these days, in the minds of many, because of domestic abuse issues I'd guess, but pop culture in general, I think.  

        In the general culture as well, "anger" is defined primarily as a "negative emotion" and we are always being presented with "anger management" tips.  So yes, the angry label is devastating in politics, unless you are John McCain, or Dick Cheney, or even Richard Nixon.  Someone they all still got elected despite it all.  Republicans can be angrier than Democrats, I'm guessing.  Somehow that is allowed.

        Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

        by a gilas girl on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 02:09:41 PM PDT

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  •  You always make it so hard on us ... (1+ / 0-)

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    ...AGG, demanding that we think and feel at the same time. At least a dozen avenues from which to launch a subthread here. Let me instead just say in this season of so much Diary certainty, it's a joy to read someone who expresses uncertainty in such an eloquently searing manner. I wish I had your depth of insight.

    I am an anti-imperialist. I am opposed to having the eagle put its talons on any other land. -- Mark Twain

    by Meteor Blades on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 03:48:42 AM PDT

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