State of the Union, Thread 5

Speech being panned on the TV.

Update by georgia10: President Bush:

By trusting the people, our Founders wagered that a great and noble Nation could be built on the liberty that resides in the hearts of all men and women. By trusting the people, succeeding generations transformed our fragile young democracy into the most powerful Nation on earth and a beacon of hope for millions. And so long as we continue to trust the people, our Nation will prosper, our liberty will be secure, and the State of our Union will remain strong.

• Over 60% of Americans want all troops out of Iraq withdrawn within one year.
• 68% of Americans think the nation is on the wrong track.
• 41% of Americans think that President Bush is "definitely worst than most" past presidents.
• 69% of Americans think waterboarding is torture and at least 58% think it should not be allowed.
• 57% of Americans believe that abortion should be legal in all  or most cases.
• At least 54% of Americans support civil unions for gay couples.
• A majority of Americans want the government to fund stem cell research.
• 57% of Americans oppose telecom immunity.

•  I couldn't watch

  Panned by whom?

  by Auntie Neo Kawn on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:15:42 PM PDT

  •  Good on Ya

    Was a continuous LIE ... from beginning to end.

    by Kdoug on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:16:59 PM PDT

  •  Anyone with a brain

    Wait, that lets out most of the punditocracy, doesn't it.

    by sardonyx on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:17:08 PM PDT

    •  Yeah, I'd think Faux loved it

      ...but that's my own rationality talking, and the Goddess knows these fools are anything BUT rational.

      by Auntie Neo Kawn on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:18:17 PM PDT

  •  Yes!

    More details, please!  Who is saying what?

    by The Citizens on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:17:22 PM PDT

  •  MSNBC-Matthews, Fineman, Andrea Mitchell

    all saying basically that "there's no there there" in the speech

    by JLFinch on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:29:11 PM PDT

    •  Now they notice?!

      Thanks for the info- I couldn't watch it either--even knowing it was probably the last SOTU from the worst president ever.  

      And what? No wrong poll data from Mitchell pointing out how most Americans love Bush and the war and think the economy is fine and Scooter shouldn't get in trouble and neither should the telecoms because they think the president is right to spy on us the way Dick tells him to, etc etc?

      by Zulia on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 08:51:40 PM PDT

•  All Hail the Uniter!

  All Hail the Uniter!

  Yuppers, ole Georgy the chimp has shown Daily Kos that we can all put aside our differences and primary wars, and regardless if you support Obama, Hillary, or Edwards, or hell, even Gravel...

  WE ARE, AND WILL BE UNITED TO ELECT A DEMOCRAT INTO THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!

  GO DEMOCRATS!!!!

  by Nature Guy on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:15:46 PM PDT

•  it wasn't a "big think" speech?

  of course not!  look who was delivering it!

  by TrueBlueMajority on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:15:47 PM PDT

  •  He forgot to mention

    human-animal hybrids.

    by Boston Boomer on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:19:53 PM PDT

    •  Don't say hybrids

      It will make Big Oil cry, poor guys.

      by Deltones on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:29:06 PM PDT

•  Last Speech Yeah!

  That's my insta-reaction

  no more bush...

  by kubla000 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:15:55 PM PDT

  •  Sadly, it's not over until it's over. We must

    somehow endure the next year under the Bush shadow.  How many more soldiers will that cost us?  I was appalled by Iraq, Iraq, Iraq!!! Fear, Fear, Fear!!!

    by drmah on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:44:58 PM PDT

•  I need a shower and a drink...

  that was beyond gross.

  Now let's get the response out there.

  by LucyMO on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:15:57 PM PDT

  •  response is here....

    damn.
    she looks good.
    i didn't realize the gov. of kansas was so attractive.
    you know...that's all i do lately.
    is look at other women and think "damn they are attractive."

    by Christin on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:19:50 PM PDT

    •  hahaha... me too ;)

      I noted earlier that Hillary's make-up looked better than I had ever seen it this evening.  And that she looked down right beautiful.  And Obama's smile was disarming and gorgeous as usual.

      Dems are good looking.  :)  And as the cliche goes, no one ever says they got a good piece of elephant.  

      by LucyMO on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:21:46 PM PDT

      •  makeup....i study that 24/7.

        especially on hillary.
        she ain't my candidate...but when they get the right shade of foundation and lipstick?
        i'm like holy shit i need her stylist.

        then some days she looks like a 200 year old hash brown, and I think "you need sleep and better conditioner".

        then the next day she looks gorgeous again and I am confused.

        by Christin on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:24:03 PM PDT

        •  oh my goodness

          then some days she looks like a 200 year old hash brown

          you had me laughing so hard I think I peed a little.

          by LucyMO on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:28:59 PM PDT

    •  Can't say the same for the response

      A calm, measured, conciliatory, and eminently adult response.  Entirely the wrong approach.  The goddamned fuckers with Bush at the point have been, figuratively, clubbing Democrats to death like baby seals.  This reponse is entirely too much like what Obama has been accused of, a Kumbaya song.

      By now, Bush is laughing his ass off.  And you can be DAMNED sure that there won't be any of that "working together" stuff between now and next January.  No way.

      by tle on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:29:37 PM PDT

      •  I couldn't agree more... far to

        kissy face for my liking.  "Join us Mr. President" the only way I'd cheer at that line if it was followed by... "in walking outside, covering ourselves in honey, and letting fire ants feast on our flesh."

        Can I get arrested for saying that?

        by LucyMO on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:33:32 PM PDT

    •  I was just thinking I loved her haircut.Wonder if

      my hairdresser could recreate that look --- you know --- the look of a caring American.

      by drmah on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:47:03 PM PDT

  •  LOL

    I hit the shower and poured me a mango peace V8 Splash and vodka.
    I felt dirty after watching that, then hearing Fox say Nacny was "saying things under her breath" as Bush spoke. I believe she said "stand" to Cheney (ROBOTS).

    CNN's first words were Obama and Hilary NOT shaking hands and Obama looked to see if Hilary was standing.

    What pathetic TRASH!

    The U.S corporate Enquirer type media is the biggest joke of our lifetime.

    by dynamicstand on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:29:59 PM PDT

•  Madison the German shepherd

  growled throughout the entire speech.  She is one smart dog.

  by noweasels on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:16:05 PM PDT

  •  Love that image

    Comet the golden retriever/poodle mix slept through it.

    by JoeW on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:18:10 PM PDT

  •  Yay, Madison!

    noweasels, are you sure you should have subjected Madison to that?

    by sardonyx on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:18:17 PM PDT

  •  Glad To Hear

    that she still has that fighting spirit!

    If you were tuned to NBC, she'd have had the chance to growl at the Mittster as well, since he was inexplicably brought on to comment right after the speech.

    by The Maven on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:20:24 PM PDT

  •  Bill-the-dog

    had just finished dinner when it started. He farted.

    by bwren on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:23:12 PM PDT

    •  the canine or former human president ?

      b/c i can see that happening either way....

      by IowaLiberal on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:54:25 PM PDT

  •  Barney the Welsh Terrier growled and barked.

    And then he fell asleep. He's no Bush fan. ; )

    by Sister Havana on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:24:41 PM PDT

  •  So it is true, then

    animals can sense evil

    by oobi on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:26:29 PM PDT

  •  Gabby the American Short-Hair

    Turned upside-down to look at me from her sleeping chair as I was chucking stupidly at me Blog, while we also listened to Singers and Standards on cable.  We thought, simultaneously, Fuck Bush, you're too cute.

    by potownman on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:28:22 PM PDT

  •  Malaika, the Golden Retriever and her 5 newborns

    were infinitely more interesting to watch!!!

    Anybody want a puppy?

    by bogbud on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:33:52 PM PDT

  •  Natasha the Siameezer

    curled around and licked her tiny pink puckered asshole.

    I think it was an editorial statement on her part.

    by Sharoney on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:36:47 PM PDT

    •  Skye the Siamese beauty

      parked in front of the tv and tried valiantly to hack up a hairball.  But it's a little too early in the season for that.

      (Didn't know you had a Siamese, too.)

      by texasmom on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:47:44 PM PDT

      •  Funny.

        That was exactly my response, too.

        Only it was my dinner, not a hairball.

        by Sharoney on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:59:55 PM PDT

•  Here's Sebelius

  by kissfan on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:16:13 PM PDT

  •  CBS introduced her as an Obama Endorser

    And potential VP Nominee...

    Nice plug

    by kubla000 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:16:47 PM PDT

    •  Nice! n/t

      by kissfan on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:17:38 PM PDT

    •  That'd be

      a nice team.

      -5.88, -6.82

      by Debby on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:18:39 PM PDT

      •  Yea I Couldn't See her on Hillary's ticket

        Just doesn't fit...

        She's a VP nominee if Obama is the nominee...

        by kubla000 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:19:23 PM PDT

        •  She's a thousand times better than Hillary

          by darthstar on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:25:29 PM PDT

          •  She is the daughter of former Ohio Gov.

            John Gilligan who came up a bit short in the 1972 presidential primaries.

            I understand she is a great person.

            by klw1963 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:40:44 PM PDT

    •  I would love for that to be

      our ticket this fall:  Obama/Sebelius 2008!

      by bythesea on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:19:47 PM PDT

      •  I'd vote for it.

        And I think it would be a winner.  Very classy team.

        by klw1963 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:41:28 PM PDT

      •  That's a mouthful!

        by TexasLiz on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:45:27 PM PDT

    •  Shameless Sweetest Plug. I Approve ;-)

      by DFutureIsNow on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:21:41 PM PDT

  •  Yea!!!!

    by nicejoest on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:16:49 PM PDT

•  Panned?

  Heaven forfend ;)

  Thankfully, it's his last one.

  by o the umanity on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:16:31 PM PDT

  •  Thankfully for us

    it was his last one. I had a really hard time watching this one thru to the end. The only thing that kept me watching was I knew it was his last.

    Finality....He is officialy a lame duck pResident from here on.

    Thank god.

    by flatford39 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:20:18 PM PDT

•  Very bad.

  Bland, unimportant.

  He would have been far better off getting up there, saying, "No more talk, it's time for action" and leaving the "rostrum."

  by Addison on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:16:35 PM PDT

•  uh-oh the teleprompter seems far too slow..

  or is it just me?

  by LucyMO on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:16:51 PM PDT

  •  yah it's slow.

    by Silent Lurker on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:17:51 PM PDT

  •  She does not seem to be a very dynamic speaker

    If this is a representative sample, I hope she's not chosen as a VP nominee. Whoever wrote these words must be unhappy about her deadening delivery.

    by Geenius at Wrok on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:19:21 PM PDT

    •  I'm not into this whole... Join us Mr. President.

      Why are we interested in him joining us.  I'll be more than satisfied if he receives absolutely no credit for a single thing that went right in the last 8 years.

      by LucyMO on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:25:15 PM PDT

      •  Something went right?

        I must have missed it.

        Send lawyers, guns and money. The shit has hit the fan. - Warren Zevon

        by bornfdup on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 05:45:10 AM PDT

•  Dem response now

  and already they are trying to ignore parties, and use Obama's line...we are not conservatives or liberals, we are Americans.

  Meh

  by kimoconnor on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:17:06 PM PDT

  •  Sebelius is fucking awful

    "We ask you Mr. President, will you join us?"

    Who wrote this crap, Rahm?  Where has she been the last eight years while the Rethugs were beating our asses?

    by Terminus on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:20:27 PM PDT

    •  Ugh

      Sebelius must be on Prozac.  The words could've been made into a good speech, but they needed someone to bring them to life.  

      The only thing even keeping me awake is being irritated with the speech.  Otherwise, I'd have been knocked unconscious by its lack of oomph.

      by other72384 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:32:14 PM PDT

•  MSNBC coverage unusually high-quality tonight

  Even Tweety is comporting himself awfully intelligently and maturely. Good, sober call on why Bush is afraid to talk economics.

  by Geenius at Wrok on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:17:09 PM PDT

  •  Yeah - I agree

    Tweety was much calmer and quite harsh on Bush. As a matter of fact everyone was harsh on Bush - and rightly so.

    by Shane Hensinger on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:18:09 PM PDT

    •  Easy call.

      Where was Tweety 6 years ago?

      by Sharoney on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:38:23 PM PDT

  •  They need a MSNBC HD Channel

    by Da Rock on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:18:42 PM PDT

  •  I don't have a TV so I'm relying on you guys.

    What about his ethnic excitement remarks about Condi. I'm sorry I missed that one.

    by TheFatLadySings on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:21:32 PM PDT

•  Therefore

  

  by Gooserock on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:17:13 PM PDT

  •  Yes, please. n/t

    by feelingsickinMN on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:18:01 PM PDT

  •  GOD wouldn't that be NICE!

    by Kdoug on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:18:13 PM PDT

  •  I had the most wonderful dream.... n/t

    by JoeW on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:19:21 PM PDT

  •  Look!

    I'm standing and clapping!

    -5.88, -6.82

    by Debby on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:20:03 PM PDT

  •  Hell No!

    That would mean we would have President Cheney!!!!

    I would rather put up with a Lame Duck Chimp for the next year!!!!  

    YIKES!!

    by Nature Guy on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:22:36 PM PDT

  •  But it would still

    be awful. That fact (sitting right behind him) hasn't changed.

    by suswa on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:25:12 PM PDT

  •  Oh if only...

    Wouldn't that be great?

    by Sister Havana on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:25:54 PM PDT

  •  If only and in 2001..what a cruel thought after 7

    years of abject hell that we are only now discovering is even worse than our worst nightmares.

    by Boorad on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:32:58 PM PDT

  •  Cheney...

    ...is one happy-looking fellow isn't he?

    by Deltones on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:33:14 PM PDT

•  So far I'm not impressed...

  by gooderservice on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:17:22 PM PDT

•  CNN: Democratic Response By Kansas Governor Live

  by DFutureIsNow on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:17:29 PM PDT

•  oh no, Sebelius is going meta? n/t

  by TrueBlueMajority on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:17:33 PM PDT

•  Boring .. get to the point

  by science first on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:17:41 PM PDT

•  Hi, I'm George W. Bush,

  and I have lied my ass off to you for seven years after being installed by the Supreme Court.

  HAW HAW!  KISS MY ASS!!

  by Kevvboy on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:17:45 PM PDT

•  Here comes Sibelius

  I am a Democrat, but tonight it doesn't matter. You turning in tonite tells me you are an American.

  American people are not as divided as our rancorous politics would suggest. As pundits discuss speech, chances are they would focus on little details. Did Dems stand, did Republicans sit. Rest of us will roll our eyes.

  Normally this time is reserved for a partisan response, i want to offer American response.

  by litigatormom on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:17:48 PM PDT

  •  People losing jobs, losing their homes

    We heard that target stimulus package in the works, that's nice, but that's not enough. There is time to get real results. We can get job done. Dem majority in congress is movning us in the right direction. Still more to be done.

    We ask you, Mr. Dipshit, will you join us? Will you work with us.

    by litigatormom on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:19:28 PM PDT

    •  This is terrible! What a blown opportunity. (n/t)

      by psnyder on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:25:50 PM PDT

•  Ah, relief!! Someone is making sense

  at last.  I'm not in pain anymore.

  by TheFatLadySings on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:17:49 PM PDT

•  Trust the people!

  I like those odds.

  -5.88, -6.82

  by Debby on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:17:53 PM PDT

•  That speech was the proverbial Sominex Special

  People should have been warned not to drive or operate heavy machinery after hearing that opus.

  by Dump Terry McAuliffe on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:17:53 PM PDT

  •  Bush's not Gov. Sebelius's (n/t)

    by Dump Terry McAuliffe on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:19:12 PM PDT

•  An "American response"

  Excellent!!

  by noweasels on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:17:58 PM PDT

•  New acronym for this speech

  StaTe oF the Union

  by kosreader on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:18:01 PM PDT

  •  I Meant to Snark This Earlier--

    I actually often read SOTU that way by accident!!!

    by Gooserock on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:20:10 PM PDT

    •  LOL!!

      I can see how a seven-year habit would be hard to break.

      by kosreader on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:22:17 PM PDT

•  Bush could care less

  He loves a good stroke of his ego.

  by Marc in CA on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:18:02 PM PDT

  •  No, I don't think he could care less. (n/t)

    by psnyder on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:27:47 PM PDT

•  Sebelius going with the non-partisan response

  WE'll see how it goes, but it seems very Obama-influenced.

  by John DE on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:18:03 PM PDT

•  ooo boy,

  can we have someone else respond?

  by amejr999 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:18:04 PM PDT

  •  But she's from the "Heartland"

    You know - the area in the middle?

    by Shane Hensinger on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:19:06 PM PDT

•  She's speaking like Obama.

  I love it.

  by vancookie on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:18:04 PM PDT

  •  An American response

    by valadon on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:18:39 PM PDT

  •  like Obama, only less effective

    by science first on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:20:01 PM PDT

    •  yup

      by vancookie on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:25:43 PM PDT

    •  Waaaay less. (n/t)

      by psnyder on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:28:34 PM PDT

    •  Same effect - sorry. nt

      by Boorad on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:35:03 PM PDT

  •  She's hitting the right notes, but...

    ...what a dull speech.  

    It's amazing how much of a difference the speaker makes in the delivery of material.  

    She looks like a great VP candidate on paper, but is now falling fast on my list.  I know it was in the model of a calm laid-back "fireside chat", but still...

    by Jaime Schulte on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:27:09 PM PDT

    •  hearing this message

      without the Obama vibrations around it, does it work? I don't have tv, so I am missing it.

      Seems like it's a good opportunity to look at the message cleanly without the shiny lights. Would love to know whether it works.

      by DemocracyLover in NYC on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:32:15 PM PDT

      •  Did Sebelius's message work?

        It was very similar to an Obama speech, minus all the passion and delivery.

        The content was fine... but I can hardly recall a word of it now.  I doubt many watched it to the end.

        Too bad... I was thinking of her as a possible VP, but hadn't heard her speak before.

        by Jaime Schulte on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 08:10:57 PM PDT

•  the New American Majority!

  glad she worked that in!

  by TrueBlueMajority on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:18:15 PM PDT

•  Lieberman

  OK--I didn't watch.  Only question I have is--How many times did the camaras zoom in on Joementum applauding the speech?

  by melvynny on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:18:22 PM PDT

  •  he wasn't there

    too busy campaigning for McCain.

    by kimoconnor on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:20:02 PM PDT

    •  Someone had to be in the undisclosed location!

      ...in case of disaster we would have Joementum to the rescue!

      by Jaime Schulte on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:30:35 PM PDT

      •  oh please no. n/t

        by kimoconnor on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 08:05:47 PM PDT

  •  He wasn't there. He's in FL with McCain

    by gooderservice on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:20:06 PM PDT

    •  Do they share a room? (n/t)

      by psnyder on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:29:10 PM PDT

  •  Was Joementum even there?

    I thought he was campaigning for McCain in Florida today: they both missed the FISA votes this afternoon.

    by sardonyx on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:22:10 PM PDT

    •  No, they weren't there.

      by gooderservice on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:25:20 PM PDT

•  She says "New American Majority"

  This comes from Obama!

  by DrJK on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:18:29 PM PDT

•  Sibelius is a little low-energy.

  by nicejoest on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:18:34 PM PDT

  •  yeah i agree ...

    she's a bit of a yawner, although i like what she's saying

    by AggieDemocrat on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:19:28 PM PDT

    •  and she needs to smile.

      especially at the beginning and end.

      by vancookie on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:20:03 PM PDT

    •  she's from Kansas n/t

      by brjzn on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:20:37 PM PDT

  •  Yeah

    She's trying a little too hard not to seem like a wild eyed radical Democrat.

    I liked Webb's response last year.

    by litigatormom on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:20:35 PM PDT

    •  Ya mean

      Like all of us here at DK?  ; )

      (do dean scream now)

      YEEEEEWAAAAYYY GO DEMOCRATS!!!   ; )

      by Nature Guy on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:24:04 PM PDT

    •  Yeah give me Webb

      Webb for VP!

      by oscarsmom on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:26:49 PM PDT

  •  Was the speech

    written up last minute and maybe she wasn't familiar with it. She seemed very measured in delivering it.

    -5.88, -6.82

    by Debby on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:32:18 PM PDT

•  I Thought His Speech Was Adorable...

  ...because his presidency, it seems, is all tuckered out.  Awwww.

  by dyrrachium on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:18:38 PM PDT

  •  {hands him his blankie} n/t

    by nycstray on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:22:53 PM PDT

  •  Yeah, after the 5 yr tantrum ...

    even the most obnoxious, out-of-control young'un eventually gets tired and quiets down.

    by grapes on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:32:37 PM PDT

•  How did Democrat get elected in Kansas?

  And as a governor?

  I do not know this woman, is she a DINO?

  by kimoconnor on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:18:42 PM PDT

  •  I don't think she's a DINO

    OF course, she's a governor, so her issues are domestic. Don't know what her Iraq/Iran positions are.

    by litigatormom on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:21:20 PM PDT

    •  Sebellius supported Clark in 2004

      I think I read somewhere she was supporting or was expected to support Obama in 2008.

      by Sharon Jumper on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:31:24 PM PDT

  •  No

    She works with what she's got in the Kansas Statehouse but has made some principled stands that weren't always popular in the state.  But, she is very popular because she actually does a good job and people recognize that.

    by pernoclone on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:23:07 PM PDT

    •  that surprises me

      considering what I usually see in Kansas

      by kimoconnor on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:24:41 PM PDT

      •  kansas has been trending blue

        and many R's have been switching to the Democratic party in the state.

        by birdbrain64 on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:32:41 PM PDT

        •  thank god n/t

          by kimoconnor on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:43:06 PM PDT

  •  No DINO. She's the real deal.

    From what I read, she's actually anti capital punishment. She's been keeping those nut cases in KS in line.

    by parker parrot on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:25:53 PM PDT

•  I am not a war criminal - LIE

  by Fools on the Hill on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:18:45 PM PDT

  •  Me

    neither.

    by SadTexan on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:21:58 PM PDT

•  Ahhhhh!! Sibelius going off script!

  Talking to "all Americans."

  I...I don't like where this is going!!

  Must...be...partisan...

  -

  by Bill in Portland Maine on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:18:45 PM PDT

  •  Yeah, pissed me off!

    But then, better pissed off than pissed on.

    by psnyder on Mon Jan 28, 2008 at 07:30:25 PM PDT

•  Her delivery could use work. WEBB, where are you?