I am a mystic -- a vision, a prophecy

Not only am I a mystic, I am also an artist -- I am an accomplished painter with proven practical abilities -- and in this diary I'm weighing in for any other Kossacks who (I'm sure there are some others here) like myself, percieve politics primarily from a supra-rational point of view.

DKos is a wonderfully rational forum in which to discuss politics and world events. And I would heartily agree that rationality is the last word, when it comes to civilized discourse. If we cannot be rational and logical with one another, then dialogue becomes impossible. Thankfully, here on DKos we can, and DO engage in productive rational discourse.

But I happen to be (sigh) an artist -- and as such my primary perceptions exceed the bounds of rationality. I SEE things, I KNOW things, I am SURE of things that are not at all rational. This is a tough row to hoe, so I hope y'all will bear with me.

Please, my dear fellow Kossacks, I'd like to make a prediction. Please allow me to put my psychic, prophetic abilities as a SEER on the line here, without dismissing me as a mere crackpot. I am NOT a crackpot, nor do I wish any advantage for myself, for seeing what I do in fact see very clearly, even though what I see exceeds the bounds of an entirely neccessary, and praiseworthy rationality.

What I see is 2008 being a revolutionary, transformative year. I see 2008 as good times for all of us who have held strong to the faith that was expounded in the sixties. I see the year 2008 as being a vindication, and an advancement of those values, in practical, real-time terms. I see the entire world, not just the USA and Europe, coming around to this point of view in 2008. I actually SEE this happening, I do not simply WISH it to happen. Call it a "vision", call it a "prophecy", call it whatever you want to call it. What I call it is the future. So I say, get ready for it. Do not prepare for doom and gloom and confrontation in 2008, because it ain't gonna happen. The year 2008 spells rapproachement at all levels, and much progress towards world peace, just in time for the innaugeration of Barak Obama as President.

And here's another thing for all yuze DKosers -- do not set your sights too low.

•  thank you

  for this diary, it feels good to affirm our future

  by aigeanta on Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 06:09:05 PM PDT

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  by SarahLee on Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 06:13:34 PM PDT

  •  Thanks Sarah Lee

    for helping me be more orthodox. I will try to do better in the future.

    by native on Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 06:44:03 PM PDT

•  you lost me...

  ...at "supra-rational".  You lost me when you claimed to perceive beyond perception.

  Why couldn't you just say you have a good intuition and you trust it?  That being said, why should WE trust YOUR intuition? We have our own intuition thank you very much.

  I am not dismissing you as a crackpot.  I am dismissing you as  a narcassist.

  Let the future unfold as it must.  There is no reason to throw in your predictions.

  by DawnG on Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 06:14:50 PM PDT

  •  True Dawn G,

    I am a narccistist. As all artists are, bar none. And though you may condemn artists as being narcissistic, you cannot deny that we have very often been prescient.

    by native on Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 06:35:44 PM PDT

    •  Not all artists are narccistic.

      And I am not condemning "artists".  Artists are not a brotherhood where they're all endowed with super perceptions.  I can most certainly deny that the "we" you are referring to "have often been prescient" because there have been prescient NON-artists.  

      I am saying this kind of exercise is kind of a waste of thought.  You don't seem to have a good grasp of the complexity and diversity of human thought or human being.

      I've met some very impressive artists in my life, but I'm not the slightest bit impressed by you.

      Take that for what it's worth.

      by DawnG on Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 07:17:10 PM PDT

      •  Well DawnG,

        This thread seems to have gone off the DKos board, so I don't know if we'll be able to correspond anymore, but I hope so.

        I admire the way you've responded so passionately to my diary, even though as you say, you are not the slightest bit impressed by me. I don't know which artists you HAVE been impessed by, so it's hard to say anything about that.

        I think that artists (and by "artists" here, I mean serious painters) DO in fact form a kind of international brotherhood. I base my assertion on my travels throughout Europe, during which I spoke with, and worked with, and became friends with serious painters of diverse nationalities and persuasions. We did indeed form a kind of esoteric brotherhood.

        You say this kind of brotherhood, or coalescance, is "a waste of thought" as if thought was all that was involved in the art of painting. I can assure you that serious painting involves much more than mere "thought".

        Granted, most of what passes for art in the contemporary Western cannon is either insignificant, or outright deceptive. ButI can assure you from many first-hand experiences, that under the radar highly skilled, and passionately dedicated painters are still painting, as they have always done, and that their work is as prescient as it has ever been.

        So yes, a brotherhood DOES exist DawnG -- a secret brotherhood of painters, going all the way back through the Renaissance to the Cave Man. And we know one another by secret signs: the color of our fingernails and the pattern of paint-splashes on our pants.

        Most times, painters can spot each other a mile away. There's a certain non-style we have. You might believe it or not, but if you happen to be lucky enough to know a serious painter, just ask them. (Hint: usually they will be needing money)

        by native on Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 08:52:51 PM PDT

  •  And besides that,

    perceptions exist, outside the rational spectrum. These perceptions as well, are valid. I am not saying that MINE ALONE are valid, I'm saying that supra-rational perceptions in general should not be automatically discounted.

    There are many kinds and qualities of perceptions. Some of them, like the perceptions of the best artists (think Rembrandt, Van Gogh, Picasso, etc) reach far beyond what ordinary, logical perception is.

    It seems to me that DKos lacks, in a sense, a mythological or magical element, which art longs to provide.

    Tell me if I'm wrong.

    by native on Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 07:14:11 PM PDT

    •  the problem with perspective.

      and come on, don't try and impress us with fancy terminology, you're talking about intuition.  You're not talking about "supra-rationality".  Give me a break.

      But the problem with perspective is that it's limited.  As an artist I am sure you are very familiar the perspective method of painting.  It gives a person a point of view, but it's a fixed point that cannot perceive anything outside that field of vision.

      The problem with depending too much on one's own "perspective" is that you become completely blind to anything outside of your field of knowledge.  What you see, exists.  and what you do not see, does not.  Perspective is incomplete by it's nature.  A wise man (or woman) seeks that what is outside their perspective or perception to gain a greater understanding of the universe.

      But that is not what you are doing.  

      by DawnG on Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 07:21:57 PM PDT

      •  But that IS what I'm doing!

        Or at least trying to do. Perspective I agree, is a fixed and limited point of view. By DEFINITION that is what perspective is.

        What I present here, in this diary, is NOT a perspective, but rather a VISION. Do you not see the difference? As an ordinary person, I have a perspective, like anyone else. But as an artist, I have a VISION -- which is a special window to the future.

        You may discount my vision DawnG, but you can't discount how much I've learned about what perpective is, through trial and error, and long years of practice. How about we just wait until January 2009, when we'll be able to tell who has fell, and who's been left behind?

        by native on Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 09:30:18 PM PDT

•  Brave of you to put your prediction out there.

  (But how odd that you confused President Edwards with Obama, who won't be president until after another 8 years in the Senate.)
  :)

  May it be, as you say, a year of movement toward peace.  And toward meeting the challenges of global climate change and economic justice.  That would be a magnificent preparation for whichever Democrat comes into the leadership role next January.

  by Fiona West on Thu Jan 03, 2008 at 06:20:45 PM PDT