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Jerrold Nadler needs help finding his impeachment mojo!

Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 05:32:06 AM PDT

The other day some folks visited Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY, member of the House Judiciary Committee) at his office to ask him to support Rep. Robert Wexler's call for impeachment proceedings to commence. I wanted to send him an email, however he does not accept emails from constituents outside his district.

I will snail-mail a version of this; however, the Electronic Frontier Foundation says on its contacting congress page that it may take as much as 3 months for postal mail to reach a congressperson due to homeland security measures. So, I figured I'd post it here in hopes that Mr. Nadler may perhaps see it while Homeland Security is reading it, cataloging my views and cross-referencing them with my grocery bills to see if I support impeachment and eat falafels.

If there's somebody in Nadler's district that would like to pass on a link to this by email click here. Or, if you feel moved you could call him at 202-225-5635 or write him at 2334 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, DC 20515

Dear Congressman Nadler,

I received an email the other day suggesting that you needed encouragement as a member of the House Judiciary Committee to join with your fellow Representatives Robert Wexler, Luis Gutierrez, Tammy Baldwin and Anthony Weiner in calling on the committee to take up the issue of impeachment of Vice President Cheney that was referred to the committee by Congress in November 2007.

I was somewhat surprised to hear this since I recalled reading last summer in an interview with Josh Marshall from TPM media you called the administration's warrantless wiretapping, "worse than Watergate." In fact, your statements in that interview seemed to implicitly require that Congress take up impeachment hearings:

"From my point of view, if the executive branch is contemptuous of the power of Congress, and is going to go above the law, and ignore the law, you have to use whatever weapons the Constitution gives Congress."

In the period since you made that statement the contempt for law and for Congress of the administration has become even more apparent as the administration has stonewalled the congressional investigations of its nearly innumerable questionable activities. Further evidence of Mr. Cheney's devious behaviors has also surfaced with the release of the Iran NIE. Contemporaneous news reports stated that Vice President Cheney had for more than a year held back the NIE about Iran while he and the President, "beat the drums" for a war in Iran, with Mr. Bush going so far as to publicly suggest that World War Three might be ensuing. These reports suggested that the findings of the NIE, among them that Iran had ceased its pursuit of a nuclear weapon in 2003, were only made public because the administration had reason to fear that the information would be leaked if they did not.

I was dumbfounded to find out recently that your staff was saying that you are not in favor of impeachment hearings in light of your previous statement. Then, I decided to research your position and found a recent interview you gave to Jay DeDapper at WNBC on December 28, 2007 wherein you said:

"On the merits he [referring to Bush] should've been impeached, but I oppose impeachment because it would just divert everybody's attention and you'd never get the votes. But the fact is impeachment is not a punishment. It was intended as a protection of liberty. It doesn't work."

I agree that the President (and I'd throw in the Vice President and a number of other high level officials) should be impeached on the merits. Your other assertions surprise me.

What could be more important than preserving the rule of law and protecting our civil liberties that, "everybody's attention" would be drawn away from?

Punishment is not relevant. The imposition of punishments is the job of the courts, not of Congress. The job of Congress in this matter is protecting the Constitution and the liberty of the people. The Constitution gives Congress two potent tools for this job, the power of the purse (to defund improper activities and programs) and the power of impeachment - both of which in my opinion have been largely overlooked.

I also think that you underestimate the power and efficacy of impeachment procedings when they are based upon matters of real import. Being old enough to remember President Nixon's brush with impeachment, it seemed to me then (and now) that those proceedings had a useful and salutary effect.  

The most salient of your objections is that partisan concerns could prevent a vote for removal from office from materializing. Sadly, this is a possibility, but we cannot know this with any certainty before the case is laid before Congress and the public. You have noted that the current administration's wrongdoing is, "worse than Watergate." It seems hard to imagine any member of Congress wishing to face his constituents and admit that there was virtually inarguable evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors committed by the Vice President and President, yet the member of congress did nothing to hold them to account.

Surely it must cross the minds of those who obstruct justice to protect their party's President that, while an impeachment conviction requires a two-thirds majority, congressmen are elected (or not) by simple majorities of their constituents.

I urge you to reconsider your position and join your colleagues in protecting the Constitution and civil liberties.

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  •  tip jar (8+ / 0-)

    please fill with mojo or peach mints, thanks for reading!

    yoo broke the law, now the law breaks you

    by joe shikspack on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 05:32:42 AM PDT

  •  His comments reveal Dem Leadership talking points (4+ / 0-)

    I just rec'd a letter from my Congresscritter, Rep. Pete Visclosky (IN-01) and he hit all the same talking points.  I'm thinking of replying to his letter by making margin notes correcting his mis-conceptions, scanning it, & then faxing the 'graded' letter right back to him.

    Am thoroughly disgusted with Pete at the moment.  He's having a series of townhall meetings this coming week.  I have a shot at attending two of them.  Am still trying to find some like-minded folks who are attending those sessions, because I'm a really crappy public speaker.  I get so furious that I can't get the words out coherently, which makes me look like a kook, and subsquently, ignored.  Sigh....  I can, however, operate a video camera!  So, if anyone is near Lake County, Indiana & wants to talk to Pete about impeachment, let's chat....

    Thanks for keeping this in front of us, joe!  Great diary.  Tipped & Rec'd.

    http://www.wexlerwantshearings.com Spread the word! (-5.00/-5.64)

    by HoosierDeb on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 05:59:15 AM PDT

    •  go, look him in the eye and let him have it! (3+ / 0-)

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      I get so furious that I can't get the words out coherently, which makes me look like a kook, and subsquently, ignored.

      don't worry about that. think about your argument in advance, reduce it to the simplest one or two line question or statement that you can, practice saying it and then when you get there - stare into the guy's eyes before you even start speaking and try to narrow your view of the room down to you and him. then squeeze off your sentence.

      if it's from the heart and you stumble, that's ok.

      if that doesn't work, ask him if he's soft on crime. B)

      yoo broke the law, now the law breaks you

      by joe shikspack on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 06:12:05 AM PDT

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      •  LOL! ... soft on crime! (3+ / 0-)

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        Thanks for the advice!  I think I can handle getting an initial question out there.  I expect him to rattle off the usual (non)excuses in response. THAT'S where I get hung up.  My fuse has gotten very short when the alarm on my BS meter is going off.  I supposed I'd just feel better if I knew at least one person there had my back or could at least ask a follow up question.  

        I've got a few days to stew on it...  we'll see...

        http://www.wexlerwantshearings.com Spread the word! (-5.00/-5.64)

        by HoosierDeb on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 06:30:19 AM PDT

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        •  there's no voice like your own... (3+ / 0-)

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          and there's nobody more deserving of your opinion than your rep. B)

          since you can anticipate his arguments, you have a big advantage over him. you know his arguments, you know that they're bogus and you know why they are bogus before he even spouts them. try to come up with a short answer to all of those arguments before the event.

          good luck!

          yoo broke the law, now the law breaks you

          by joe shikspack on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 06:47:46 AM PDT

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          •  Did you hear the audio of Debbie Wasserman (3+ / 0-)

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            Schultz on the Ed Schultz (no relationship) show?  Speaking of talking points... they came directly from the Democratic leadership.  It's making me sick.

            Did you read today's telecom immunity diary?  Oh wow... that is closely tied in with the impeachment thing.  See if it will be useful to your argument Deb.

    •  At least Visclosky is holding town hall meetings (4+ / 0-)

      Rob Gottheim, Rep. Nadler's District Director, flat out refused to hold a town hall meeting on impeachment when I requested this fall.  He also refused to schedule a follow up meeting with the group of constituents who met with Rep. Nadler in August on impeachment - even after all that has happened in the last several months (Iran NIE, Scot McClellan on Cheney/Plame/, FISA, etc.).  Looks like Rep. Nadler cares more what the Democratic leadership thinks than what those who elected him think.

      •  These are his annual 'tour the district' meetings (0+ / 0-)

        and aren't specifically for impeachment. (I wish!!!)  That's also part of the reason some back-up / co-conspiritors would be most welcome. ;-)

        I'm contemplating asking him if he considers it dishonorable to violate a sworn oath, but I'm not sure I have the cojones for that....  

        And I'm sick to death of the Dem party line on this.  There is NO excuse for it, let alone a reason.

        http://www.wexlerwantshearings.com Spread the word! (-5.00/-5.64)

        by HoosierDeb on Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 05:58:49 PM PDT

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    •  Hey Deb! Good on ya... (2+ / 0-)

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      Do you have a local PDA group?  They are sooo strong if you have one in your area.  Check that out or post on meetup.com... start one and hopefully you will find a few people to support you!

  •  He is my rep (6+ / 0-)

    and I have contacted him several times about this....oddly enough, I never get a reply, although I get a reply whenever I tell him he is doing something right (which he often is).

  •  Nadler and Weiner and Clarke (5+ / 0-)

    I have heard the opinions of Nadler, Weiner and Clarke on the subject. Clarke (my congresswoman) was the only one of the three to publicly support impeachment at the time, somewhat to the disgust of the other two. Since then I hear that Weiner is coming around to impeachment, yet when I heard him, he was the most dismissive. If Weiner can come around, Nadler is not impossible. Pressure on them and on the Dem leadership and on the media is what we need. Keep those calls and letters coming! We can get there in time.

    By the way, not sure where Velasquez stands on the issue. She's another good one who sometimes doesn't take the best stand. If anyone knows where she stands, let me know! If we can get a good chunk of the NYC delegation behind impeachment, Nadler will come around.

  •  My letter to Nadler (4+ / 0-)

    Dear Rep. Nadler,

    I urge you, once again, to support impeachment of Bush and Cheney.

    I blog a lot on dailyKos, and the feeling there is HUGELY behind impeachment.  But impeachment should not depend on popularity, or votes, or political considerations.  Impeachment should be about making sure that our faith in the constitution can be whole, complete, and total.

    That paraphrases Barbara Jordan, but I cannot do better than quoting her.  She said:

      And I am not going to sit here and be an idle
      spectator to the diminution, the subversion,
      the destruction, of the Constitution.

    Is that what you will be?  An idle spectator?
    I certainly hope not!  

    she said

      It is designed to "bridle" the executive if
      he engages in excesses

    I know you believe Bush has engaged in excesses.

    She called impeachment "A glorious opportunity to share pain" - and so it is.

    Nor are only liberals of this view; Thomas Sowell wrote

      But if any president is able to commit crimes
      with impunity by using the vast powers and
      perquisites of his office to cover up, then
      we will have a danger of corruption and abuse
      of power that can only grow with the passing
      years and generations.

    So, Rep. Nadler, I once again urge you to impeach.  Not just for us, but for our children and theirs.

  •  Joe, great diary (2+ / 0-)

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    Sorry to have missed this earlier.  

    It is possible that Rep. Nadler has already seen your diary.  He told me this summer he reads dkos when I showed him a graph representing the historical volume of impeachment diaries at dkos over several months. Yes, the line showed exponential traffic.  

    I will forward it to Rob Gottheim, Rep. Nadler's District Director in Manhattan, but also recommend that you send it via mail to the Manhattan office.  Mail should arrive there without the delays it runs into in DC.  The address is:  209 Varick Street, Suite 669, New York, NY 10012.

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