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Karen Handel, Georgia's Secretary of State, for her brilliant performance of psuedo-objectivity mixed with a Fox Newsian flair!

Yesterday, we discussed how, even though some Georgia voters were forced to wait four to eight hours to vote early, Handel refused to extend the hours for early voting, as requested by the Georgia Democratic Party.

The Atlanta-Journal Constitution's Board, in turn, penned an editorial lambasting Handel's decision:

The long lines of Georgians going to the polls early —- many in metro Atlanta are waiting three or more hours in line —- suggest a huge turnout that ought to be cause for celebration. And state and local election officials should be making every effort to accommodate citizens who obviously want to exercise their country’s most sacred right. [...]

In recent years, the Georgia GOP has conducted a unholy campaign to make voting as difficult as possible by enacting a rigid voter ID law —- despite virtually no evidence of voter fraud at the polls. Already in this campaign season, Senate President Pro tem Eric Johnson (R-Savannah) has opined that early voting was a "mistake" and suggested the Legislature should enact tighter restrictions on it.

Today, Katherine Karen Harris Handel responds with, surprise!, charges of a liberal media conspiracy:

Taking the lead from the Democratic Party of Georgia, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution advocates that Gov. Sonny Perdue and I make up election law just four days before Election Day. As the newspaper is very aware, even if the authority existed — which it does not — Georgia is covered under Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act, which means that any changes in election procedures must be "precleared" by the U.S. Department of Justice before they can be implemented.

Usually, this newspaper is a stickler for following the law and procedures. I wonder what their position would be if another political party made a similar request? I’ll leave that to the imagination of the readers. [...]

Georgians can be assured that my office is not going to attempt to change the rules to accommodate the political whims of groups or newspapers less than a week before Election Day.

Even if Georgia law could be interpreted as requiring DOJ approval to extend voting hours (and that in and of itself isn't entirely clear), there is nothing to suggest that the DOJ wouldn't grant such a request as a matter of course, especially with evidence of unprecedented and overwhelming early voting turnout. But Handel has made no such request to the DOJ.  Rather, she chooses to act as if her hands were permanently bound.  Georgia's Katherine Harris wannabe recites the standard GOP script that Democrats are engaged in some conspiracy to get voters to the polls.  

Well, yes, they are.

It's called "democracy."  

Republicans should try it some time.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:20 AM PDT.

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  •  Hey, a dictatorship is easier... (12+ / 0-)

    ...as long as one of them gets to be the dictator...

  •  It's amazing (20+ / 0-)

    how these problems start to go away when we throw the Republican bums out, just like we did in Ohio, isn't it?

    To the GOP, the worst thing about democracy is that people are allowed to vote in one.

  •  Don't you just love it when Republicans (7+ / 0-)

    get all selective on the laws they'll rigidly enforce to the letter?  Damn, it must suck to be one of them.

  •  Please form an orderly line to slap Karen Handel (13+ / 0-)

    Saying the Iraq "Surge" worked is like saying Thelma & Louise had a flying car.

    by JML9999 on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:23:26 AM PDT

  •  not Georgia law (17+ / 0-)

    Even if Georgia law could be interpreted as requiring DOJ approval to extend voting hours ...

    It's not Georgia law but federal law that requires this, because Georgia has a history of trying to disenfranchise black voters.

    Ironic, isn't it?

    Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.

    by m3 on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:23:37 AM PDT

  •  Gotta keep "those" people away from the polls. (5+ / 0-)

    Sigh.

    A working-class hero is something to be.

    by Reckoner on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:24:10 AM PDT

  •  Well, at least our GA Sec of Education (6+ / 0-)

    is smarter than a 5th grader

  •  Georgia, on my mind, (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    hopeisontheway, JML9999

      I dont know if the Obama volunteer lawyers can help anyone in Georgia if the authorities have made up their minds to thrwart voter participation - though i Dearly Hope that voters will be protected there, on Nov 4th.

  •  Lovely (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    oceanview, JML9999

    They're still going to lose big...

    "Polls are like crack, political activists know they're bad for them but they read them anyways."-Unknown

    by skywaker9 on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:24:26 AM PDT

  •  A friend of mine waited (11+ / 0-)

    seven hours yesterday in midtown Atlanta.

  •  It's a well-known fact that right-wing (9+ / 0-)

    parties benefit from lower votern turnout.

    Why? Simple. Because right-wing voters are renowned for being disciplined. To use a stereotype, they go en masse from church to the voting booths on election day, escorted by the priest, of course.

    And left-wingers? Ah, we're civilised. If it's a nice day, we take our families and go on a trip, unless the election is truly important.

    So, generally high turnout spells doom for the wingnuts and I'm not surprised they're trying every dirty trick in the book. I wish they wouldn't, of course, but jumping into an area of criminality is the next best thing - once they're convicted, they are a far greater liability to their party than if they simply lost.

    Omne malum nascens facile opprimitur, inveteratum fit plerumque robustius. - Cicero

    by Dauphin on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:24:50 AM PDT

    •  Speaking for myself, (1+ / 0-)
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      Dauphin

      I am totally undisciplined.  I admit it.  I don't think I could take a seven hour wait.  I get migraines.  I have one right now.  It's likely I'd pass out.  I have an absentee ballot to manage that possibility, but what if I didn't have that option?  It pisses me off that people have to be put out like that.

      "I always wanted a son named Zamboni." Sarah Palin

      by llamaRCA on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:28:53 AM PDT

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      •  I'll wait... (7+ / 0-)

        ...as long as it takes. Especially this election. I'm going to bring a book, a partner and a water bottle.

        "...Reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." Richard Feynman

        by QuestionAuthority on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:31:31 AM PDT

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        •  Good for you. (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          Dauphin

          If I hadn't gotten the absentee ballot I was going to take a folding camp chair.  Someone here had posted the idea of taking folding chairs and leaving them at polling sites for people who might need them.  I thought that was really nice.

          "I always wanted a son named Zamboni." Sarah Palin

          by llamaRCA on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:36:23 AM PDT

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        •  Bring snacks, an umbrella for sun or showers. (2+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          Dauphin, Thinking Fella

          "No way, no how, no McCain." Hillary Clinton

          by keeplaughing on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:44:03 AM PDT

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        •  If you need a reading list for the wait... (1+ / 0-)
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          amRadioHed

          I'd recommend Angler: The Cheney Vice Presidency.

          Any time you think the wait is too long, look down at the page, think of Palin, and your resolve will be magically replenished.

          (not that Palin is anywhere near smart enough to have the kind of pull Cheney exercised - especially during his first term, but I do believe she thinks she's running for an office in the fourth branch of government.)

      •  Just this once, take the Maxalt. (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Dauphin

        "No way, no how, no McCain." Hillary Clinton

        by keeplaughing on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:43:16 AM PDT

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      •  I would like more verification of the 7 hr. wait. (0+ / 0-)

        I heard shorter wait times in DeKalb, also a very blue area.  Not sure what happened to cause such a long wait.

        "John McCain has proven that he's not a maverick, he's erratic." -- John Kerry on McCain's impulsive choice for VP, 8/31/08

        by beachmom on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 01:03:00 PM PDT

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      •  Please go and pass out in line! what TV!! (0+ / 0-)

        I mean that in the nicest possible way--no wishes for your ill health--but this stuff . . . argh! . . . must pound head against keyboard . . . what's a civilian to do, but show up with thirty of their friends and oh, sing off key or have pizza delivered or go into labor or whatever else to point out how utterly outrageous this is.

        Voting is the #%$*& definition of our system of government! If we can't figure out how to get the citizens' ballots cast, the whole thing is a sham. If the secretary of state can't figure it out--and that's her primary duty--then she is incompetent and ought to be replaced!

        "History isn't a seesaw. If you have a bad regime on one side, the actions on the other side don't automatically become good." --Nicholson Baker

        by youpsy on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 01:58:14 PM PDT

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  •  D'uh (9+ / 0-)

    Usually, this newspaper is a stickler for following the law and procedures. I wonder what their position would be if another political party made a similar request?

    They'd want you to honor the request?

    "I always wanted a son named Zamboni." Sarah Palin

    by llamaRCA on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:25:03 AM PDT

  •  Repub Says Dem Lacks Commitment to Constitution (4+ / 0-)

    "Democrat Dennis Shulman trying to unseat U.S. Rep. Scott Garrett for seat serving Warren County, NJ
    Thursday, October 30, 2008

    http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/...

    By JESSICA COOMES   The Express-Times

    "U.S. Rep. Scott Garrett, R-Warren, a conservative who prioritizes tax cuts, is running a contentious re-election campaign against political newcomer Dennis Shulman, a rabbi who paints himself as a problem solver.  Shulman, a psychologist, launched his first-ever campaign last year and has raised at least $900,000. That's less than Garrett's $1.3 million but nearly double what Garrett's opponent in 2006, Paul Aronsohn, raised.  Shulman would be the first rabbi in Congress and the first blind member in decades.

    Shulman said he's a problem solver: "As a blind person, I've had to do that to function in the world. As a psychologist, one is dedicated to helping someone solve real-life problems. As a rabbi, as a community leader, you're dealing with the same type of issues, how to address problems in the community or how to address spiritual problems."

    ... Garrett said Shulman would negotiate with terrorists. Shulman said he was most offended by a Garrett news release saying Shulman "lacks a commitment to the United States Constitution and our political heritage as a nation."

    JPZenger was a newspaper publisher whose jury trial in the 1730s for seditious libel helped establish the freedom to criticize top government officials.

    by JPZenger on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:25:18 AM PDT

  •  If Crist can make emergency changes in FL (8+ / 0-)

    that she can make emergency changes in GA, she's going to be the only one in the South that is not making accomoodations for unprecedented voter turn out.

    I hope she gets slammed...just slammed.

    •  My point exactly. (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      CityLightsLover

      We crossed posts, but you are absolutely right.

    •  Most SecStates and County Clerks are (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      TheUnknown285

      delighted with the turnout and are making efforts to have extra hours and additional facilities.  Handel sucks.

    •  no, it's a different situation (1+ / 0-)
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      ibinreno

      Georgia is one of the states, that due to a history of discrimination, must pre-clear any changes ot 'standards, practices and policies' according to the Voting Rights Act section 5.

      Florida isn't on that list

      "you have the right to your own opinion. You do not have the right to your own facts" -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

      by SteveP on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:48:20 AM PDT

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      •  No, not so! (1+ / 0-)
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        SteveP

        Florida is indeed one of the states subject to Section 5, which is the part governing preclearance.

        Here's a site with a map showing which states are subject to various provisions of the Voting Rights Act. Florida actually falls under MORE restrictions than Alabama and Georgia (the other major provision, Section 23, refers to language assistance, no doubt because of the large Latino population in Florida). Florida has a nasty history of denial of voting rights.

        They should have been thwarted over the 2000 felon purge and butterfly ballot. I seem to recall they weaseled out of that one with the Clinton DOJ by lying, essentially. I don't remember the details, though. Does anyone remember? And in a sane world, Georgia should NOT have been allowed to institute photo ID, at least not without some provision for subsidy or extensive transportation aid or some other provisions for getting non-driver IDs to vulnerable minority populations.

        http://www.renewthevra.org/...

        •  Actually I think it's only certain counties in FL (1+ / 0-)
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          SteveP

          According to some posting downthread, it's only some counties of Florida (probably the Panhandle, which is more like an extension of Alabama). Sorry. But I could have sworn I remembered something about the felon purge having to get approval in 2000 and it getting through by some chicanery. Or maybe Florida's been taken off the list since?

        •  sorta..4 small counties (0+ / 0-)

          The rest of the state is clear. Sorryy, don;t mean to be obscure there.

          "you have the right to your own opinion. You do not have the right to your own facts" -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

          by SteveP on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 01:16:41 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  felon purge (0+ / 0-)

          let's not get too sidetracked by the felon purge. That question had to do with three issues.  First whether Florida could deny eligibility to felons from other states who had regained their eligibility in those states.  Second was which felon lists could be used to purge voters from the roles. and third whether the purges represented a violation of the equal protection clause. VRA allows felons to be disenfranchised, this was not a VRA issue per se.

          "you have the right to your own opinion. You do not have the right to your own facts" -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

          by SteveP on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 01:22:48 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  What is it with the Initials K.H. and voter (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Rolfyboy6, oceanview, TheUnknown285

    suppression?

    Remind me not to name any of my daughters anything that begins with an "R" as she some day might marry a guy with a last name that begins with "H".  It could screw MY family name...

    The Republican Party's agenda to subjugate average Americans is so rotten, it smells worse than the toilet seat on a shrimp boat." Aristotle

    by funluvn1 on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:25:32 AM PDT

  •  Maybe just maybe Georgia turns a corner (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Rolfyboy6, oceanview, dww44, RTAtlanta

    this year!

    IF Georgia turns blue I am going to need a new Daily Kos name!

    by RedStateDem on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:25:35 AM PDT

  •  Yesterday, a fed court ruled in NAACP v. Cortes (14+ / 0-)

    Check this out, Karen:

    Some waiting in line, of course, is inevitable and must be expected. One must always choose between and among a number of candidates for different offices listed on the ballot and often, as in this election, there are questions to be read and considered. All of this takes time. Nonetheless, there can come a point when the burden of standing in a queue ceases to be an inconvenience or annoyance and becomes a constitutional violation because it, in effect, denies a person the right to exercise his or her franchise.

    Lawsuit, anyone?

    One more Justice and John McCain gets his wish.

    by JR on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:25:50 AM PDT

  •  OT but so bad its funny (4+ / 0-)

    New 527 anti-Obama ad:

    "Polls are like crack, political activists know they're bad for them but they read them anyways."-Unknown

    by skywaker9 on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:26:44 AM PDT

  •  Gov. Crist extended here without batting an eye (5+ / 0-)

    Which we know is hard for him, but I digress.

    Can't imagine what Georgia's fucking problem is.

  •  Remind me again ... (5+ / 0-)
    About which political party hates America?

    The Republican brand: "Consequences, schmonsequences, as long as I'm rich"

    by D in Northern Virginia on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:26:53 AM PDT

  •  404-656-2881 Call Handel's office (5+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Peace JD, oceanview, kptlaurie, dss, RTAtlanta

    And ask her to extend voting hours.

    IF Georgia turns blue I am going to need a new Daily Kos name!

    by RedStateDem on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:26:55 AM PDT

  •  Take it to the courts. n/t (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    oceanview, lizjaye

    "Hatred paralyzes life; love releases it. Hatred confuses life; love harmonizes it. Hatred darkens life; love illuminates it." ML King

    by TheWesternSun on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:27:07 AM PDT

  •  I hope the Obama campaign... (5+ / 0-)

    ...goes to federal court this afternoon to get a TRO against this piece of garbage, and I hope she is stupid enough to disobey it, so her butt could be hauled off to jail!

  •  If Republicans "Tried" Democracy, (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    annan, amRadioHed, Fireshadow, GrogInOhio

    they'd never be in power again; and, they know it.

    "...the struggle against corruption is one of the greatest struggles of our time." Senator Barack Obama

    by CityLightsLover on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:27:39 AM PDT

  •  NYT lines+AA=Chamblis defeat (7+ / 0-)

    Nearly 1.4 million Georgians have voted, according to the Georgia Secretary of State’s Office, and more than a third were black. (Blacks make up just over 29 percent of registered voters in the state, which keeps track of racial data under civil rights laws.) Early voting began Sept. 22, and this week the state opened extra polling stations and extended their hours.

    http://www.nytimes.com/...

  •  Alaska elections officials (5+ / 0-)

    gave the same totally lame excuse this week for why they didn't implement their new non-english translations voting program even thugh it was all ready to go. Languages included many native american languages so that village elders could  vote using their native language.  

  •  Let's use this against Handel when she runs for (5+ / 0-)

    Governor in two years.  Take her down!!!  She does not want to give easy access to voting.

    IF Georgia turns blue I am going to need a new Daily Kos name!

    by RedStateDem on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:28:59 AM PDT

  •  Yep, she's an asshat (6+ / 0-)

    She even has her own website, aside from the official Secretary of State's site, to promote her crap:

    http://www.karenhandel.com/

    Asshat.

  •  The self righteous (4+ / 0-)

    self absorbed flag wearing hypocrites !

    MEN AND WOMEN HAVE DIED to defend or GAIN the right to vote.

    Sonny Perdue is a pimp and Saxby is a whore.

    Fuck the Ga Rethuglicans.

    All I want is the truth. Just gimmie some truth John Lennon

    by gimmie truth on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:29:23 AM PDT

  •  Republicans should try it some time. (0+ / 0-)

    they won't because when they let democracy prevail, they LOOOOOOOOOOOOSE!

    PROTECT YOUR VOTE - learn how and tell friends & family http://www.stealbackyourvote.com and http://wakeupandsaveyourcountry.com/

    by Clytemnestra on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:31:06 AM PDT

  •  They're diluting my vote! (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    TheUnknown285

    What happened to my equal protection?

    I was the first voter and I voted the D ticket and clearly my undiluted vote must prevail. Otherwise, what kind of a democracy is it????

    You kids behave or I'm turning this universe around RIGHT NOW! - god

    by Clem Yeobright on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:31:48 AM PDT

  •  Seems like an odd time (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    annan, RedStateDem, TheUnknown285

    For a Republican SoS to seek out a negative national profile. Last I checked, Katherine Harris ain't having much luck in life.

  •  We really need to have an election (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    oceanview, amRadioHed, TheUnknown285

    Where everyone in the country votes the same way and this is joke where some places have lines hours long.. There should be no reason you can't vote in less than 20 minutes, none...

    "If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich." JFK (1917-1963)

    by ebbinflo on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:33:11 AM PDT

  •  So many black votes to suppress... (6+ / 0-)

    ... so little time.

    <script></script>

  •  Thanks for keeping this front and center (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    oceanview, QuestionAuthority

    With so many voters trying to vote early, it's important that they are aware of some of the problems they might encounter.

    "Trolling is a sad reality of internet life...Directly replying to the content of a trollish message is usually a waste of time"

    by Rusty Pipes on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:33:37 AM PDT

  •  Venting a little (10+ / 0-)
    my assistant and her fiance waited 3 1/2 hours this past Monday to vote in Gwinnett County.  That's 3 1/2 hours that spilled into their early evening after she left work early.  

    WTF is up with Handel, and the republican whackos in my effing state, that they have to try so hard to limit folks from voting?!?  I swear they would implement a poll-tax if they could get away with it.

    God/Creator please help Georgia and let us somehow turn "blue" next week.

    ... and to my fellow Kossacks I promise we're not all crazies like Handel down here.

  •  Email this witch (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    m3, TheUnknown285, RTAtlanta

    sos@sos.georgia.gov

    •  much better idea n/t (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      RTAtlanta

      Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.

      by m3 on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:37:04 AM PDT

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    •  I did. Here's what I wrote. (3+ / 0-)
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      annan, TheUnknown285, msp2phx

      I pretended I was Republican (though she can probably look that up):

      Dear Ms. Handel,

      I'm writing to implore you to please serve the voters of Georgia and extend the voting hours. I waited in line on Monday for over six hours to vote, with other Republicans, Democrats and Independents. No party was excluded from the wait. Governor Crist gladly extended his voting times because he wanted to best serve the people of Florida. Why would you not want to best serve Georgians? I'm sure the US Department of Justice would be willing to work with you. Have you even tried to contact them regarding this matter?

      Ms. Handel, I know you think you're only hurting Democrats, but we Republicans are hurting too, and I might add many of us are less passionate and more likely to leave the voting lines if they are too long. I saw many leave on Monday. Is that what you want?

      Thank you for your time.

      (my name)
      Lilburn, GA

      When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two. ~nisargadatta maharaj

      by qotsa73 on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:43:39 AM PDT

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  •  Here in Dekalb its open from 7AM to 7PM (8+ / 0-)

    I went to vote today at 10AM and waited for 2 hours to vote, there were like 500 people in line in front of me when i went to vote.  I went to vote with 5 friends that had never cared about politics, all of them white southerners, let me say there are many of them.  The line was 40% african american and many young people where voting as well.  It really looked loopsides towards Obama judging from the people who were there.

    Obama needs to come to GA, he needs to come this weekend.  We can win GA.

  •  Lines? (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    TheUnknown285, Fireshadow, RTAtlanta

    I have to admit that I don't get it.  I have voted every year since 1977 and not once have I had to stand in a line with more than 10 people in front of me.  I live in NY and we are only allowed to vote on election day.  We use old fashioned lever machines and not any fancy modern technology. But my district has always had the policy that they open as many polling places as necessary to insure that they can cover the expected number of voters.  Why is this so difficult for other districts?  Isn't insuring that the residents of a district can vote without inconvenience the main job of the people who run the election district?

    "War is a cowardly escape from the problems of peace." - Thomas Mann

    by Tom Paul on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:36:24 AM PDT

    •  A bubble of privilege (1+ / 0-)
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      Tom Paul

      I have had the same experience, but I've always had the privilege of voting in upscale precincts managed to maximize the vote.

      I doubt that you'll find many lines in those precincts anywhere in the country.

      Outside that bubble, long lines are used to suppress the vote.

      There are two very different philosophies about voting in play here: one team wants everyone to vote and the other team doesn't.

      Unfortunately, we've allowed the second team to take control of the system.

      Secretaries of State should be strictly non-partisan. Not sure how we get there from here, but we need to make it a national priority.

      "Let us not look back to the past with anger, nor towards the future with fear, but look around with awareness." James Thurber

      by annan on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 12:31:38 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I think you nailed it (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        annan

        There are two very different philosophies about voting in play here: one team wants everyone to vote and the other team doesn't. Unfortunately, we've allowed the second team to take control of the system.

        I think one of the things we should be demanding from an Obama presidency is the active involvement of the DOJ to insure that there are no long lines on election day.  Making voting easy and quick will help promote voter participation.

        "War is a cowardly escape from the problems of peace." - Thomas Mann

        by Tom Paul on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 05:46:25 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  Because this is a different state. (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      chemicalresult

      You can rail against it, but this is what it is.  I was in a 2 1/2 hour line to vote today in N. Fulton County, GA.  In '04, I voted on Election Day in Virginia Beach at absolute rush hour in the morning, and waited about an hour.

      Clearly, there are less resources devoted down here.  

      "John McCain has proven that he's not a maverick, he's erratic." -- John Kerry on McCain's impulsive choice for VP, 8/31/08

      by beachmom on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 01:09:07 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Let's make sure Handel doesn't serve another term (2+ / 0-)
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    "No way, no how, no McCain." Hillary Clinton

    by keeplaughing on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:37:08 AM PDT

  •  She might best serve an Idiocracy n/t (3+ / 0-)
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    All hope abandon ye who enter here. McCain's Brain

    by gereiztkind on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:38:31 AM PDT

  •  Handel is no Harris (3+ / 0-)

    Katherine Harris fought long and hard to suppress votes and vote counting.
    Handel is just scared of her party's wrath in Georgia.

    Obviously, she's got an agenda and is putting her own party above her job and she should be ashamed of herself for that.

    But Katherine Harris is in a league of her own. Handel may go further off the deep end, but I don't think refusing to extend voting hours instantly makes her as bad as the woman who destroyed our democracy and gave us Bush in 2000.

  •  Darn! (3+ / 0-)
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    I had Wisconsin Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen in the pool to with the Katherine Harris Award. (Is it the "Kathy" or the "Harry"?)

    Come on, J.B.! There's still time to appeal your pathetic lawsuit to the Wisconsin Supreme Court and snag this prestigious award!

    "It is often pleasant to stone a martyr, no matter how much we admire him"...John Barth

    by Giles Goat Boy on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:39:42 AM PDT

  •  GEORGIA VOTING AND GOV/SEC STATE DONT CARE! (3+ / 0-)
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    I am so frustrated - I have tried calling perdue and handel re: this - they say "nothing we can do" even though the man who answered the phone at handel's office said - -"it's political"
    please help - per local NPR station just now, all Karen Handle has to do is ask Justice Department for "pre-clearance" and then she can extend polling hours and also have weekend voting."

    call them and tell them this IS how she can do something to HELP Georgia's voters, not IGNORE their needs by wrongly saying she can't do anything.

    In Metro Atlanta Area:
    (404) 656-2871, or
    (404) 656-2881

  •  KH worked for the Quayle's (2+ / 0-)
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    That is her entry into politics... the woman doesn't have a college degree.  She is nothing but a republican hack... pure and simple hack.

    IF Georgia turns blue I am going to need a new Daily Kos name!

    by RedStateDem on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:42:38 AM PDT

  •  I'm still worried about computer voting. (1+ / 0-)
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    I'm also worried about the names that were taken off the voting lists.  McCain looks too happy about this election.  Maybe he knows something we don't know.

  •  GOP "narrow path to victory": Disenfranchisement (2+ / 0-)
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    Given the "liberal" bias in the media, it's startling the GOP can still get away with what is nothing more than a coordinated effort to prevent qualified citizens from voting. For the party which claims a monopoly on "freedom" and "patriotism," they sure seem concerned with what their fellow "patriots" would do if given the "freedom" to vote.

  •  Baldwin: "3% chance Obama is the Anti-Christ." (0+ / 0-)
  •  Exxon posts record profits, yet again (0+ / 0-)

    $15 Billion, last record last quarter was $11 Billion, a 30% increase in 3 months over the previous record.

    Yeah...clearly the price of the barrel was the cause of the high pump prices, and they were just passing along costs, not increasing their margins.....

    Meanwhile, lets give them ANOTHER tax break McCain, that'll help Joe the Plumber !

    Government for the people, by the people

    by axel000 on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:49:31 AM PDT

  •  We need to take this woman down in 2010 (1+ / 0-)
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    no matter which race she is running in (SOS or Gov).

    IF Georgia turns blue I am going to need a new Daily Kos name!

    by RedStateDem on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:50:05 AM PDT

  •  Making voting an easy to exercise right... (0+ / 0-)

    ...must be a first 100 days priority for our new Democratic Party Overlords in Washington. This is getting ridiculous!

    Is there an effort to do a new voting rights act going on? Where do I sign up?

    When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist. -- Dom Hélder Câmara (1909-1999)

    by hoipolloi on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:52:25 AM PDT

  •  Mike Malloy of Atlanta, GA (1+ / 0-)
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    Mike sure will be hot tonight on his show.  I've got my popcorn ready!!!  GIVE IT TO HER MIKE!!!!

  •  I voted today at the Johns Creek library (4+ / 0-)

    located in NW Fulton County. I specifically chose this location on the belief it would likely have a shorter line than any other Fulton County early voting location.

    Arrived at 9:15 AM and had a 120 minute wait in line.

    BTW - Karen Handel is a total tool and well-deserving of maximum scorn.

    •  Hey, me, too! I got there at 8:15, (2+ / 0-)
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      and waited over 2 hours.  I think the SoS is screwing over Democrats AND Republicans.  There should be more places to early vote and longer hours.  Period.  I bet you most Republican voters would support that.  Only nasty GOP operatives want to limit voting by limiting convenience to vote.

      How about that Anne Frank exhibit at the library?  Pretty fitting for a day voting for the first African American President.

      "John McCain has proven that he's not a maverick, he's erratic." -- John Kerry on McCain's impulsive choice for VP, 8/31/08

      by beachmom on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 01:12:52 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  In defense of Georgia (0+ / 0-)

        How many states started early voting on or before September 22?  I voted last Friday in the wind and the rain in a smaller urban area outside of Atlanta, and the wait was about 40 minutes.  The line snaked all inside of the ONE early voting location in my county but it moved at a nice clip.  My husband went yesterday and returned home.  Being ex-army, he avoids lines at all costs.  Says he will risk the line on Tuesday.

        So, Georgia has had weeks of early voting, but, naturally, people just got interested in the last couple of weeks.  Prior to then, no lines.  It would have made more sense, in my estimation, to either extend the voting hours and into the weekends closer to Tuesday.

        •  Yeah, but it was very limited before last week. (0+ / 0-)

          The early polling locations prior to this week were very inconvenient (for me, anyway), and there was no way I was going to travel that far to vote.

          "John McCain has proven that he's not a maverick, he's erratic." -- John Kerry on McCain's impulsive choice for VP, 8/31/08

          by beachmom on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 01:59:10 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  Georgia MUST preclear according to fed law (5+ / 0-)

    Handel is an asshat, because of course she could get preclearance in a matter of hours.

    But the Voting Rights Act, section 5 DOES specify that Georgia is on the list of historical states that have used discriiminatory electoral processes and it must pre-clear any changes to "standards, practices or policies" before implementing them.

    That section is MEANT to avoid poll taxes, literacy taxes and practices that have the effect of hindering minority votes.  But Georgia unlike Florida which is not on the list, has a record of being bad, so they have to go either to the DOJ or the federal DC Circuit to get preclearance.  

    the DC Circuit sits for this and it would be a total formality to get pre-clearance. They would get it the same day.  They could also go to DOJ, and DOJ had 60 days to rule...and as we all know the DOJ is totally impartil and not a political agency, so They'd act quickly I am sure...Fox News told me so.

    The suit that ought to be brought is to compel Handel to ask the DC Circuit to find that longer hours does not serve to deny the vote to minorities - a no brainer.

    "you have the right to your own opinion. You do not have the right to your own facts" -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

    by SteveP on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:55:05 AM PDT

    •  I haven't looked deeper at the law (1+ / 0-)
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      Does it actually say that the DOJ could be bypassed by going to the DC Circuit. Or is the DC Circuit just the venue for any litigation concerning the law itself?

      My first thought was that if the DOJ were to find one of the states in violation of the law then the case would be heard in the DC Circuit or if the DOJ were to rule against a state that the DC circuit would be the venue for an appeal.

      Usually a court has to look at what Congress intended when enacting the law. It may be true that it wasn't the intent of the Congress to preclude actions that would benefit voters but it isn't clear to me whether or not Congress intended that all changes - even the ones beneficial to voters - be approved by DOJ before enactment. If left open to interpretation the court could act. The court may be able to act in the interest of the common good where an unintended hurdle causes more harm than intended.

      What's the difference between Sarah Palin and a Moose? One has a nice rack. The other is completely full of shit!

      by MindRayge on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 12:09:37 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Here's the language - yes they can go to court (1+ / 0-)
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        Covered jurisdictions may bring declaratory judgment actions against the United States, before the United States District Court for the District of Columbia, to obtain Section 5 review of for voting changes

        4(a) specifies that (emphasis mine):

        Section 4(a) of the Act established a formula to identify those areas and to provide for more stringent remedies where appropriate. The first of these targeted remedies was a five-year suspension of "a test or device," such as a literacy test as a prerequisite to register to vote. The second was the requirement for review, under Section 5, of any change affecting voting made by a covered area either by the United States District Court for the District of Columbia or by the Attorney General.

        All this from the VRA.

        "you have the right to your own opinion. You do not have the right to your own facts" -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

        by SteveP on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 01:15:19 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  The 1965 Voting Rights Act (1+ / 0-)
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    SteveP

    Which was renewed in 2006 unchanged for the next 25 years has some restrictions

    APPROVAL REQUIRED

    The 1965 Voting Rights Act requires the following states to ask the Justice Department for permission before changing its voting rules:

    Alabama
    Alaska
    Arizona  
    Georgia
    Louisiana  
    Mississippi
    South Carolina
    Texas  
    Virginia *

    The law also covers some counties in California, Florida, New York, North Carolina and South Dakota, and some towns in New Hampshire and Michigan.

    * - Eight counties and three cities in Virginia are not covered.

    Source: U.S. Justice Department

    Without having looked deeper into the law I don't know if there is a formal procedure that is involved nor if it applies to only certain types of changes.

    What's the difference between Sarah Palin and a Moose? One has a nice rack. The other is completely full of shit!

    by MindRayge on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 11:57:48 AM PDT

    •  it applies (1+ / 0-)
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      to any change in "standards, policies and practices" - which means basically anything.  Georgia has had their laws precleared as they stand.  The procedure is to submit to DOJ the new laws and the DOJ has 60 days to respond. OR to submit to the DC Circuit Court.  That could be done in a matter of hours and would be a mere formailty as the law would only be impermissable if it tended to hinder the voting of minorities (and of course be in compliance with other voting laws).

      Opening the hours obviously doesn't.

      "you have the right to your own opinion. You do not have the right to your own facts" -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

      by SteveP on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 12:02:55 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  OMG (1+ / 0-)
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    This all hinges on all of us getting all of ours getting out and freakin' voting !

    Everyyone, get your peeps off their asses!  Get them out to vote.  This is our chance.  This is our moment.

    Let's do this.

    Call everybody you know in every swingstate....
    get them to the polls!

    We need you people. Bring it on home.

    The Ambassador of LOVE:

    Yes I think to myself... What a Wonderful World.

    I love Louis Armstrong so much.  This one is for him.

    •  I've been thinking of this song (0+ / 0-)

      It would be great playing in the background of a campaign ad, overlaid with McCain talking about how safe Iraq is, how the surge is "working," how the fundamentals are strong, and finally how he as a chance to win.

  •  Obama is right (1+ / 0-)
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    the greedy fingers of those in control must be pried off the instruments of control.

  •  You didn't mention the Jim Powell fiasco (0+ / 0-)
  •  I kind of feel bad... (0+ / 0-)

    Handel responds with, surprise!, charges of a liberal media conspiracy

    It doesn't help (or hurt, depending on your view) that people like me have written to the state of Georgia exhorting them to extend early voting hours. I did so two nights ago after having read about this story on Digg. In my letter, I explained that I'm a Democrat, and that I'm well-aware that she will undoubtedly laugh in the faces of everyone who writes with a similar message. In my parting shot, I explained how I live in Massachusetts, which is a proud liberal state, unlike Georgia, which is fast becoming much more like Alabama than Virginia. No idea what possessed me to include that last lick, but hey -- who cares? I won't change her mind, but I will make myself feel better about looking down on her and her cronies in the South.

    John McCain isn't a bad person -- I JUST HATE him.

    by SammyJames on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 12:03:05 PM PDT

    •  How about not looking down on Georgia at all? (4+ / 0-)
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      We appreciate your concern, but I really don't think it's helping Georgia Democrats' cause when a liberal from Massachusetts pisses off our Republican state officials by sneering at them--that's something an elitist would do.

      And it's not true that we're becoming more like Alabama than Virginia.  If Obama/Martin can't turn Georgia blue, they at least made it a pretty violet color.  (PS, the Dems in Alabama are trying too--cut them some slack.)  Remember what Obama says: we are not red America and blue America.  We are the UNITED STATES of America.

    •  There are a lot of Massholes in GA. (0+ / 0-)

      Watch it.  

      "John McCain has proven that he's not a maverick, he's erratic." -- John Kerry on McCain's impulsive choice for VP, 8/31/08

      by beachmom on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 01:14:27 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Another Immediate Priority Next Year (1+ / 0-)
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    TheUnknown285

    Clean house at the U.S. Dept. of Justice.  Get a nationwide imposition of fair voting laws.  Cut the crap and let American's vote.

  •  I voted early in N Georgia yesterday (3+ / 0-)
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    Cherokee county.  The lines were very short and very white.  Diebold machines.  After finishing with the machine, I handed over the plastic card with my votes encoded electronically to the poll worker and asked if there was any way to get a print out of my completed ballot- she just laughed at me.  Left me feeling kind of creeped out.

    •  The vote is in the Diebold machine. (0+ / 0-)

      I was a poll watcher in Virginia in '06.  Votes are counted from the machine, not the card.

      A paper ballot would be helpful, but that is a fight to have on off years not at a poll worker who is probably tired, just doing his/her job.  There isn't a darn thing they can do about a paper trail now.

      "John McCain has proven that he's not a maverick, he's erratic." -- John Kerry on McCain's impulsive choice for VP, 8/31/08

      by beachmom on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 01:17:20 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  N Ga ballot (1+ / 0-)
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    Oh yeah- another thing.  Most races had no challenger to the republican incumbent.

    •  yep, that bummed me out, too (0+ / 0-)

      I am represented by two Republicans in the State legislature, one each in the House and Senate.  They had NO opposition.  That was true for a lot of state and local races.

      But, on a good note, I see this election as rebuilding the state Democratic Party infrastrure.  the 2004 elections absolutedly decapitated the state party.  No one was left to lead.  The two top folks burned each other in the primary race for Governor and both went off to do other things.

  •  Where's the Beef (1+ / 0-)
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    qotsa73

    This rant by you all has gone on and on, but no one has provided the proof that this election official has the authority.  She clearly can apply for a quick approval under the Voting Rights Act.

    But the question is does she have the authority under Georgia law to extend the hours even if she wanted to.  Any idiot knows that we have 50 states and each one has different laws, especially election laws.  The Feds have scrutinized Georgia's election law and found it to be in accordance with the Act.

    Even though we may disagree with the Feds finding and Georgia law, this does not allow us to ignore the law.  A Secretary of State has no authority to violate the law or declare something unconstitutional.  The courts must order this.  They have not done so because as far as I can tell, no one asked them.

    And finally, remember, it's not only Republicans in the past who fought against greater participation.  A number of years ago here in Colorado we had two initiatives to end the caucus and to go to an Oregon style all mail ballot.  Frankly, while there were a few right-wingers fighting against us, it was the Democrats who didn't think this benefitted them at the time (they thought they would get more right-wing Republicans on the ballot with the existing system and those Republicans would be easier to defeat).  So, don't get all high and mighty.  This is a political issue.  When you can run the Republicans out of office in Georgia and change the law, great.  But, the law is the law, and absent some court intervening, we must follow it even if we don't like it.  That, my friends, is the very basis of our civilization.

    If someone can find a basis under Georgia law for her to extend the hours, fine.  Let's take her to court.  If someone thinks this is unconstitutional, fine, let's take it to court.  I think we lose the constitutional argument.  For heaven's sake, many states don't have any real early voting anyway.

    I would love to see the evidence she can do this.  But until I do, this is just ranting which only encourages people that if its a good reason we can break the law.  NOT!

    •  Fair enough, but the article states... (0+ / 0-)

      Georgia is covered under Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act, which means that any changes in election procedures must be "precleared" by the U.S. Department of Justice before they can be implemented.

      I'm no lawyer, but she made no mention of whether or not she tried to contact the U.S. DOJ. Would Crist not have needed this "preclearance" as well? Her statement makes it sound as though it's not a case of there's nothing she could do, just that she won't. She doesn't say, "I contacted the DOJ and they would not give me permission." Or, "I would if I could." She seems very angry and her reasons seem to be that she wants to punish "that other party" versus helping all Georgia voters.

      When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two. ~nisargadatta maharaj

      by qotsa73 on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 12:44:11 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  She is the first Republican (0+ / 0-)

        To hold that job in my lifetime and I ain't exactly young.  Believe it or not, Gov. Perdue says things that indicate he supports large voter turnout.  She is directly elected, but don't know why he couldn't put pressure on her.  After all, he once was a Democrat.  We have lots of those "used to be Dems " in our government at national, state and local levels.  Oh well, maybe I will make it to see a really viable two party system here.

  •  Don't get mad, get even! (0+ / 0-)

    Georgia's Democratic voters can get their revenge by turning out overwhelmingly and electing a Demcraitic senator, and giving Georgia's electoral votes to Obama, thereby turning the state blue and atoning for the state's role in slavery and civil rights.

    Georgia has always been a most pragmatic state. Prove it.  This election being on the side of the Democrats is being on the right side of history. Help invent and design the future for all of us.

    Go Democratic Georgia! to hell with the Sec of State.  Just like Sherman with Savannah in December, 1864 make the world a Christmas present of Georgia.

    •  Recall campaign (0+ / 0-)

      Let's get an SoS who can do the job: run elections.

      "History isn't a seesaw. If you have a bad regime on one side, the actions on the other side don't automatically become good." --Nicholson Baker

      by youpsy on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 02:06:39 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Not defending her, but... (0+ / 0-)

    I agree that she needs to work with the DOJ to extend voting hours, but some of the blame needs to be placed at the county level also.  Dekalb county has a very smooth operation running, but it seems like some Georgia counties have been having more problems.

  •  Great great post. (1+ / 0-)
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    dww44

    I fired off a letter to the editor this morning after reading her piece.  I said I'm glad to know she considers voter access a "political whim!"  (I'm in Atlanta.)  Ugh!

  •   "Georgia's first Republican Secretary of State." (2+ / 0-)
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    Seriously.

    From the first line of her online bio: "Karen Handel was elected in November 2006 and sworn in to office on January 8, 2007 as Georgia's first Republican Secretary of State."

    Shouldn't she be a "Secretary of State" and not a "Republican Secretary of State?"

    "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." - A. Einstein

    by FWIW on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 01:10:48 PM PDT

    •  Yep, absolutely, (1+ / 0-)
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      Good to know that my memory served me correctly as I had already noted that she was the first of her kind in the state. Since all the prior ones were Democrats, the immediate prior one was Kathy Cox, who put in those Diebold machines.  And, yes, the poll workers do laugh, when you ask about paper trail verification of one's vote.

      Until the state legislature shifts more Democratic, we won't get any relief from the Diebolds.  Unless,something is mandated on the federal level.  Which would instruct all states to have a back up paper trail and leave it up to the states to implement the process.  That's all we need:  a federally mandated requirement for a legitimate paper trail that could be used in recounts.

  •  The best way for Republicans (1+ / 0-)
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    to stand up to concerns about a Democrat conspiracy to open up voting is to call for open voting themselves.  That's called bipartisanship.

    Of course, if you're in a position where you'll lose if people vote, then you've already lost.

  •  My partner spent 4 1/2 hours in line today (2+ / 0-)
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    chemicalresult, qotsa73

    As my other half has been sent a summons for jury duty on Monday and doesn't want to have to worry about being held over and missing his chance to vote, he lined up at the polling place this morning here in Atlanta at 10am.  Four and a half hours later, he had finally made it through the line to cast his vote.  As much as I'd like to do early voting, I can't get away from work for that long right now so I will be voting Tuesday morning and hope for a short line.

    •  Yep. (0+ / 0-)

      Took me over 6 hours, and there were people there who spent over 8 hours in line that day. It's ludicrous. Kudos to your partner for sticking out!

      When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two. ~nisargadatta maharaj

      by qotsa73 on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 02:05:55 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Katherine Blackwell-Handel (0+ / 0-)

    is her name.

  •  Canned response to my letter to Ms Handel. (0+ / 0-)

    Thank you for your question. The Secretary of State does not determine the hours or locations for early or advance voting. Therefore, the Secretary of State's office cannot extend the voting hours or add voting days or locations on weekends during advance voting. Even if such changes could be made at the state level, any such changes would require pre-clearance by the United States Department of Justice under Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act before they could be enforced. Moreover, any changes now would introduce prohibitive legal, practical and logistical hurdles to our elections process. Georgia's state and county election officials use the weekend and Monday to prepare for Election Day on Tuesday, November 4.

    We are very happy that people are excited about casting their vote and ask that you please be patient. You may choose to cast your ballot either during Advance Voting or on Election Day. On Election Day, the county election officials will have many more locations, poll workers, and voting machines available for Georgia's residents to vote.

    Thank you for your concerns, and if I can be of any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact my office.

    Then my question is: Who does? Of course she did not volunteer this information. The Governor?

    When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two. ~nisargadatta maharaj

    by qotsa73 on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 02:02:23 PM PDT

  •  EXTEND THE HOURS (0+ / 0-)

    It's shit like this that had me not voting until this year I mean how can this one person tell American citizens, opps the polls are closing too bad you did not vote!

    This is supposed to be a democracy where every voice gets heard and every vote counted but its really just a shame to make small people feel involved until the powers that be dont like the result they see coming.

    there should be NATIONAL voting laws and NATIONAL voting machines I think it is moronic that each state gets to make up rules.

  •  It¨s time for a tough national election sta (0+ / 0-)

    Leaving the fate of the country to these sub-humans like Eric Johnson is moronic. Diebold's machines seem to be based on 1960's computer technology right out of Future World.
    This mish-mash of mailed, punch cards, old machines, odd hours, paper, etc. is worse than you would expect from a third world dictatorship.

    Whenever I is feeling a bit scrotty, a few gollops of frobscottle is always making me feel hopscotchy again. ~Roald Dahl

    by Andhakari on Thu Oct 30, 2008 at 03:14:42 PM PDT

  •  I took an hour off work yesterday to vote (0+ / 0-)

    I know that the lines are going to be shitty shitty shitty on Tuesday, so I went yesterday.  (And then after work I gave blood, making it a double civic duty day.)

    It took an hour to get through the line.  They had moved the Athens early voting from the Board of Elections to the Classic Center, because people were standing outside in near freezing temperatures at 7AM.  They were remarkably efficient about the whole thing, but the whole time I was thinking . . . if it's this bad the Wednesday before the election, how bad will it be next Tuesday?

    Ironically, as someone posted on the main page, it seems that all the white guys are waiting until Tuesday to vote.  For those not in rural districts, it will be interesting to see them coping with horrible lines and waiting for hours.  Who will they blame?  All the Obama people voted early!

  •  McCain voter fraud! (0+ / 0-)

    hey! check this out: McCain voter fraud!

    http://www.youtube.com/...

  •  voter supression (0+ / 0-)
    The dont want the "negroes" to go vote!  Why they might not vote for the "right" people.  Handel knows that many democrats work 9-5 hourly jobs and cannot take off on Tuesday.  Her ass is out of here 2012.
  •  VP (0+ / 0-)
    I thought Katherine Harris was John McCain's running mate.
  •  But it ISN"T a Democracy is it? (0+ / 0-)

    This is a republic, which makes all the difference.

    It means that once the officials are elected, there is practically nothing anyone can do because the system has long since been hijacked.

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