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Is anyone else having this problem?

I went from such a patriotic, ready-for-the-future, nonviolent revolution high last night to such a low today when I looked around at all of the cons.  First thing I see on my Facebook this morning is a smattering of liberal cheering surrounded by a veritable plethora of conservative griping.  I realize that people were bound to be disappointed, but the anger, and even fear in some cases, is really disheartening.  

I have seen everything from people complaining about "the same people calling for unity are the same ones that never got behind Bush," (did these people pay attention to the past 8 years?) to people starting pools debating the date of what would be one of the single lowest points in our history that will, god willing, never arrive.  

Groups calling for the impeachment of President-Elect Barack Obama have already emerged.  

I was there last night.  I was in Grant Park.  If I stood tall, leaned forward and looked to the right I saw him.  I heard it and saw it live and in person.

It was one of the greatest moments in my life.  The feeling of unity and hopefulness was tangible.  We all felt great.  I left feeling better about the future of this great nation than I have at any point in my 25 years.  Chicago is a terribly segregated town, but last night it didn't matter.  Everyone was together celebrating and it was truly amazing.

But after the things I have seen and heard today, I fear that the hill we have to climb alongside our 44th President is steep, far steeper than I realized.  I knew their would be detractors, that the economic woes we faced would take a lot to get through; but I had no idea the hate that would spew forth.  I have tried hard to not gloat, to not brag, to be understanding of those that are disappointed because I have been there before. But those that are truly angry are just heartbreaking to me because we have, what I feel, is the best chance for progress we have had in my lifetime but he and we can not do it alone.

Frankly, it has made me realize that I have a disproportionate number of conservative friends considering my far-left views.  I guess I just needed to vent somewhere to the left after spending so much time listening to the right.

Update 1

I JUST received this in my Facebook inbox:

I couldn’t disagree more. It was the most divisive campaign I’ve ever seen. He and his surrogates divided people by race, class, and gender. He stoked jealousy and resentment. I was completely disappointed. He was supposed to be “a different kind of candidate.” He was anything but different. He exacerbated concepts of class warfare and envy. He has never once sponsored a piece of bipartisan legislation or made any effort to reach out to anyone with a different ideology before this election. In case you haven’t heard, here’s what he said about “working class” people at a San Francisco rally.

"And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

It sounds like he is the one with antipathy towards those who aren’t like him. That isn’t unity. That doesn’t bring people together. He has tried to silence his opposition, such as when the Washington Times backed John McCain and they were thrown off of his airplane or when Democrat surrogates searched personal records of Joe Wurzelbacher in an effort to smear him simply because he asked a simple question. What about when his surrogates sent a team of investigators to try to find “dirt” on Sarah Palin? She was the target of an aggressive smear campaign, one of the worst character assassinations of our time. Those tactics divide people. I’m not saying the McCain campaign was perfect in anyway, but they didn’t claim that they were going to “bring the world together,” either.

There’s no difference between yesterday and today. Al Qaeda is still fighting a war against us. Russia, Iran, and multiple nations still feel the same way they always have. They don’t hate George Bush, they hate what America stands for. They despise our freedoms. They hate people who aren’t controlled by their government. Senator Obama can’t change the way they feel about us. Frankly, I don’t care that those nations hate us at all. Barack Obama isn’t going to provide us with freedom, we had that to begin with. We were the greatest nation on earth 150 years before Barack Obama’s grandparents were born. America became great by going against the grain, even when the rest of the world wasn’t behind us. I’d rather “go it alone” and know I was doing the right thing then just act to appease others ("others" being western Europe). We're 5% of the world population but protect all 100%.

Unrealistic hopes can lead to colossal disappointment. If you support his policies and his ideology, that’s one thing. Go ahead and vote for him (which you obviously already did). Don’t tell me he’s this great unifier, he’s just a consummate politician. I have a feeling if John McCain was elected you’d be singing a different tune. The same people who are telling us we need to cede and get behind Senator Obama because they say so were the ones throwing eggs at houses with Bush/Cheney signs and blaming them for the 9/11 terrorist attacks. I find that extremely hypocritical. By the way, his first Presidential appointment is Rahm Emmanuel, perhaps the most partisan Representative in the house. Remember him, the guy who told one of his staffers, “The Republicans can go f*ck themselves!” It sounds like he’s trying to unify people already.


Originally posted to Yepsen on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 08:05 PM PST.


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Comment Preferences

    •  Did You Seriously Believe... (4+ / 0-)

      that the election of Barack Obama would cause idiots to vanish?

      This is CLASS WAR, and the other side just suffered a setback.

      by Mr X on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 08:20:04 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  No.. (1+ / 0-)
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        I just hoped... I don't know what I hoped, but I hope that he can help bring us the future that we all believe he can.  I am ready to do my part.

        •  perhaps you didn't expect (0+ / 0-)

          to get such hate in such volume? Because the same thing happened to me on Myspace, it might as well change its name to "I Hate Obamaspace" these days. It virtually slapped me in the face. People's status messages ranged from "bummed" to "What is everyone thinking?" to "Welcome to the socialist states of America" to "America just took a dump on its own head."  I reached the same conclusion: I have too damn many Republicans in my life and not enough Democrats and I am resolving to change that.

          But then I went to Talladega College where there was a forum, including U.S. Rep. Artur Davis, on life with a black president.  I definitely felt the love in the room and that left me able to face just about anything.

  •  My oldest son (3+ / 0-)
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    Marie, DeLLBerto, alkalinesky

    "ripped a bunch of conservatives new assholes" (his words) last night on facebook after running into the same buzzkilling twits.

    I guess it's pure naivety to expect anything less from them.

    Think of all sentient beings as Buddha, but keep your hand on your wallet.

    by CathodeRay on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 08:13:02 PM PST

  •  Conservative friends? (4+ / 0-)
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    Marie, SherwoodB, DeLLBerto, alkalinesky

    Tell them GFY and get some new friends. Hang with people who will DO something, and not just bitch about it. You're in the right place for that already -- right here at Daily Kos.

    "Lash those traitors and conservatives with the pen of gall and wormwood. Let them feel -- no temporising!" - Andrew Jackson to Francis Preston Blair, 1835

    by Ivan on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 08:13:18 PM PST

  •  I've been kind of (1+ / 0-)
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    laughing at them and referring them to the popular vote and electoral college. I told them that with any questions they've got' President Obama can be reached at

    If I had a shotgun you know what I'd do? I'd point it straight up at the sky and shoot heaven on down for you.

    by DeLLBerto on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 08:16:36 PM PST

  •  Eh. (0+ / 0-)

    They had their vitriol inflated to high pressure for months. Years, even. Give 'em a few weeks to lose pressure. Soon they will be flat.

  •  wait a few weeks before panic (0+ / 0-)

    Yes, we have to fight for legitimacy, always. But consider: GWB has historically low approval, and Gallup gave Obama the highest approval rating, going into Tuesday, of any prez candidate ever. Let people blow off steam for a few days first. People say a lot of crap on the internet that you just wouldn't have heard in the past.

    "I made the wrong mistakes" --Thelonious Monk

    by theloniously on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 08:20:41 PM PST

  •  They are full of fear and anger. (1+ / 0-)
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    Remember when helping the homeless was a campaign topic?

    by catherinesoso on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 08:23:22 PM PST

  •  Why are you letting the feelings of people (1+ / 0-)
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    who are wrong affect you? Why are you interacting with them in this way? I know my father voted McCain and we aren't even discussing our respective choices, love the man though I do.

    So just let it go. Of course they will snipe. Of course they will act like little Tucker Carlsons. There's no surprise in this. Go enjoy yourself.

    "It's like we weren't made for this world, But I wouldn't really want to meet someone who was." --Of Montreal

    by andydoubtless on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 08:30:50 PM PST

  •  Remember what 'THEY' told us (1+ / 0-)
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    in 2000 and 2004?

    "Get over it!" You heard it everywhere the right winger congregated.It was sickening.
    Today I said it to a right winger who went on and on about how and why McCaine lost. He even blamed the weather,I kid you not. And I laughed when I said it!
    They have nobody to blame but themselves.Let them gripe!

    "In a time of universal deceit -- telling the truth is a revolutionary act."

    by mint julep on Wed Nov 05, 2008 at 08:33:25 PM PST

    •  yep and I fully expect (1+ / 0-)
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      mint julep

      to rub their noses back in it.  One particular person was very hateful and obnoxious to me four years ago; you think she'd be happy Bush won but apparently she wanted it to be unanimous and resented me for raining on her fantasy.  

  •  Isn't that spam? (0+ / 0-)

    I feel like I saw that entire e-mail somewhere else. I'm not sure your friend didn't cut and paste parts of that.

    Anyway. Yes, it's depressing. People act like this. You know how big this feels to you because you haven't had a win in so long, as far as who's the face of the country? A lot of these people haven't had a loss in just as long. There are bright-eyed conservative bloggers and Facebook users who have had George W. Bush as their president for a third (or half) their lives.

    I honestly believe that just like many of us were sure this wouldn't happen, many of them were sure it wouldn't happen, too. Think if you were as overcome as you are now, only you were disappointed instead of happy. That's a lot of disappointment. So even from the assumption that your friends are worth being friends with -- ideologically different from you but okay human beings -- they're going to be feeling a lot. It's only a day.

    You gotta just...keep going. That's all there is. Some of them will come around. Some of them won't. Some of them, you just won't want to discuss politics with. Don't give up your friends; just see what happens.

  •  Dump the assholes (0+ / 0-)

    Surround yourself with people who you want around you. If they believe the crap the sent you, they obviously haven't read anything but the 'real truth' on RedState.

    Bush had his chances. We didn't like it, but we were behind him. He was one of the most respected people in the world after 9/11 and he blew it. He pushed us away about 6 years ago by his actions.

    I've dumped a few friends over this crap. If they can't respect me enough to listen to what I say, admit when they are wrong, and think I'm going to believe whatever they tell me regardless of fact, they are not my friend.

  •  Politics bring out the best (0+ / 0-)

    and the worst in us. Let it slide. Many of the haters will calm down in a few months. They will probably never like Obama, but they will calm down.

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