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If I had to bet the ranch, I'd bet against Arlen running for reelection.
I also believe there's scant chance that he'd cross the aisle between now and 2010, although a healthy Specter in 2010 would be attractive if he ran as a Democrat.
he's not healthy,
and he'll be 80 years old in two years.
A Young Arlen A much younger Arlen Specter (circa: around the time we first met).
South of Ted Stevens' cryogenically frozen Alaskan tundra,  most 80 year olds suffer from tired bodies with questionable tread life (pun intended).
Until recent health issues finally slowed him down, Robert Byrd was the Senate's 90 year old exception to the rule, and many people believe he's been quietly dead for the last 20 years.

So here's the poop, or scoop, or poop scoop on PA-v2010, as I see it...

Arlen has always schtuck to his schtick - whether it's loyalty to the Republican Party or his Single Bullet Theory as a member of the Warren Commission (bless his misguided heart).

In a previous political reality, Specter was a Republican District Attorney of Philadelphia!
If you know Philadelphia, that's as implausible as Barack Obama being elected Governor of Oklahoma (then again, who thought he'd win Indiana?).

SIDE NOTE -  A Philadelphia Native's Travel Guide to Philadelphia:
Have you noticed that I use the long form "Philadelphia" and not "Philly?"
That's because native Philadelphians call Philadelphia, "Philadelphia"... never "PHILLY!"
Sure, the diminutive "Philly" is short and fuzzy, but that would be too easy.
Remember, we waited over a hundred years for our first World Series victory. Even the seemingly diminutive term for our local baseball team came from a cigar, and not the city the team represents.
Us real natives only use the term "Philly" when referring to neighborhoods, like South Philly, West Philly, North Philly, etc. If you hear a Philadelphian say he lives in "Philly," the guy's either a carpetbagger or infected with a brain-eating virus and would lose any bid for local public office (although the brain-eating virus problem would be good preparation for a run at Governor of Alaska). Also, a true Philadelphian mispronounces the city's name as "Phil-Delphya - missing the first "A" and with a quick "phya" at the end. But the truest test of birth right is the pronunciation of the "Schuylkill" river. Most Philadelphians pronounce it "Skeeyoogul"(with the "yoogul" said quickly. The correct pronunciation is "School Kill"  (with equal emphasis on both syllables). It's okay to pronounce the name of the city and its smaller of two rivers correctly in front of a native. They can't hear their own affliction.
Third tip: Philadelphians don't get moist over Rocky any more than San Franciscans pine for the  Zodiac Killer...
and don't call their town "Frisco."
Finally, candidates who win Philadelphia in local, State and National elections order their cheese steaks at Pat's on 9th Street - not Gino's across the street. Gino's is the other steak joint on the cornerand it's owned by a Republican (maybe the solitary Republican in South Philly)). He keeps a friendly sign in the order window that declares "Only English Spoken Here."  Apparently, "Go Away Wetbacks" was already copyrighted.
Before the Iowa Primaries, I ran into Rudy Giuliani at Gino's proudly and defiantly ordering a cheese steak in his Brooklynese English.
How did that work out for him?
I rest my case.

Speaking of Rudy, where the hell was I before I so Rudely interrupted myself?...

Right. Who's going to be the next US Senator from PA?
As a recording engineer, I worked with both Arlen and Bob Casey Sr. during the same Gubernatorial campaign about a thousand years ago - and I liked both men, personally. Politically, I didn't much care for Casey's Conservative social agenda, and In Arlen's case, I remember musing to myself that he would make a lousy Governor and that the Senate was a more natural fit with his personality.
Ultimately, Casey was the right fit for Governor but way Right of center -  and I was way right about Arlen's true calling.

But now, Arlen Specter's party has left him for some narrow Holy War agenda, and politically and personally, one last hurrah for Arlen is unlikely.
But gutsy and ever the Party loyalist, Specter will try to hang on until the end of his term.
He's been fighting a tough personal battle - one that's often brutal, and I do wish him well.

Caring little for the man or his distinguished service, the Palican Party (nee Republican) will be gunning for Specter's seat in the 2010 Primaries and will attempt to nominate a Santorum clone Model #2010 - and like Godzilla 2000, it will be a disappointing rip-off of the original 1954 monster...

..and without Ironsides.

If the Palicans mount a successful coup against the last vestiges of the old PA GOP, they'll be singing another Lynn Swan Song come November, 2010.
Between Philadelphia, Allegheny and the ever-growing Democratic majorities in Montgomery, Delaware and Bucks Counties, you can no longer rule out either a Liberal or Conservative Democrat to win the Governorship or US Senate seat. The late great Liberal Joe Clark could finally win reelection.
The Democrats will probably promote someone from their current political ranks to run for Specter's seat. If there's no sex or financial scandal attached to that ultimate candidate, the Dems will easily win the General. Surviving scandals is the one strong suit of the Republican Party. Hypocrisy and dishonesty are expected and rewarded in today's Palin-styled GOP. Still, it would have been a great YouTube moment had Santorum been videotaped schtuping a Collie. Now that Santorum is history, nobody cares.


Also, I wouldn't rule out Chris Matthews as a viable candidate. He's slick, has worked on the Hill, is connected and knows the game.
And, while many would disagree with me (my own son included), Michael Nutter is one of the most quietly underrated Democrats in the Commonwealth. If he's interested, he may just slip in under the radar.
Not unlike Sleeper Cells (very quietly) more Casey brothers out there. I've met them all -  and they're all likable and electable Conservative Dems - AND loyal to the Party over personal ideologies - unlike their Southern counterparts. The Casey family is so damned nice, even a Lefty like me is willing to campaign for them.  I spent 5 hours driving to Scranton and back to attend a Bob Casey, Jr. rally when he ran for the Senate. If you've ever been to Scranton, then you know I've already made the ultimate sacrifice to my Country.
Plus, it's getting really hard to beat any Conservative Democrat in Pennsylvania.  

They just don't have any natural enemies.

Second to last, but far from least, is Ed Rendell.
Eddie's one big hunk of love.
He loves everybody and everybody loves him back.
And who can hate a politician who wears his shirt out of his pants and wears pants that are too short?
Among the Haute Couture crowd, Ed's the Anti-Obama.
However, I just don't see Ed leaving the State... but who knows.
Even Midge probably has no clue.
Of course, Harrisburg isn't much more exciting than Scranton.  It's just quicker to get back to civilization from Rt 276 than from Rt 476.
And last, but least, there's me.
Photobucket As a True-Blue Pennsylvanian, through and through.

If nominated I will accept.
If elected I will serve.

If either of those two events actually occurs, get ready for the Rapture.

But if you do choose me as your next Senator, here are my campaign promises to you, the voters of the Fine Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.:

  1. If elected, I WON'T embezzle from my fellow Pennsylvanians - only from out-of-Staters.
  1. I WILL have sex with anything that moves assuming I can put together a coalition of the willing (not including Santorum or farm animals).

Feel free to vote for your favorite next Senator from PA, below.

Originally posted to wbramh on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 06:54 PM PST.


Who's YOUR favorite choice for US Senator from PA in 2010?

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  •  I wouldn't trust Matthews (5+ / 0-)
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    jj32, Wufacta, DrJeremy, wbramh, thebluecrayon

    He'd probably change his mind (and vote) on an issue if he saw a Gallup poll that disagreed with him.

  •  Hey (5+ / 0-)

    My Dad is from Philadelphia and he refers to it as Philly...although that's mostly when he talks to those of us from elsewhere.

    And he says Schuylkill is pronounced "Skoo-kull".

    The Republican Party is neither pro-republic nor pro-party. Discuss!

    by Nathaniel Ament Stone on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 06:58:57 PM PST

    •  Unless you're referring to the expressway (7+ / 0-)

      Then it's the Sure-Kill. ;-) It's one nasty road, IIRC.

      IGTNT: Our war dead. Their stories. Read "I Got the News Today."

      by monkeybiz on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 07:03:12 PM PST

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      •  The "Sure Kill" (2+ / 0-)
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        monkeybiz, thebluecrayon

        Coined by Radio personality Bob Menafee, as I recall.
        A highway that was outmoded and dangerous before it even opened.
        Narrow lanes, lots of left lane exits, terrible grading, on and off ramps within 50 feet of each other, etc etc
        Parts of the Schuylkill that pass near my house were paved right over historic Lenni Lenape village sites without any attempt to salvage the rare archeological artifacts below ground - The Lenapes go back 10,000 years and the last vestiges of their civilization moved West around 300 years ago.  We don't even have a record of their language.
        I hate that road.

    •  How long has he been away? (1+ / 0-)
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      The first thing Philadelphia ex-patriots recover is their ability to totally open their mouths and lose the "eeww" sounds when they try to say "OO."
      Single "O"s come out sounding like "eouw."
      The second thing is gaining an appreciation of shorthand when it comes to speaking or writing the name of the town.
      These are all good, good, GOOD things.
      But still counts as impurities to us die-hards Phildelphyuns.
      Also - if your father grew up in the 'burbs, the accent often changes a bit.
      Where did he grow up?


    •  Excuse me (0+ / 0-)

      That was me (Wally) answering your note.
      I was too lazy to go downstairs to my office and responded from my wife's computer without logging in as me (she's barbara318 and my biggest fan  - when she's not chasing me with a butcher's knife).

      Wally (from Wally's computer)

  •  I Re'd you AND voted for you! (3+ / 0-)
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    Mz Kleen, Rich in PA, wbramh

    Because you look so much like my hero, William Tecumseh Sherman.
    HE makes me "moist."
    Very good take on PA political scene - and some very funny comments.

  •  Correction (3+ / 0-)
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    Rich in PA, wbramh, thebluecrayon

    Having lived in and around Philadelphia for most of my life before relocating to the Midwest, I can tell you that the correct pronunciation of the city is "Fluffya" for the natives.

    Just like that suburb: Kinga Pressha

    "The game's easy, Harry" - Richie Ashburn

    by jpspencer on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 07:12:01 PM PST

  •  Rendell, untill someone convinces me otherwise! (4+ / 0-)

    I just don't believe we have any top-flight talent among our Democratic congresscritters, and I don't believe Senate is an entry-level job.  Wilder choices might include Graham Spanier, the president of Penn State, but really I can't think of anyone much beyond Rendell, and that's OK by me.

    -5.38/-3.74 I've suffered for my country. Now it's your turn! --John McCain with apologies to Monty Python's "Protest Song"

    by Rich in PA on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 07:19:27 PM PST

    •  I do know how to spell "until," BTW. N/T (1+ / 0-)
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      -5.38/-3.74 I've suffered for my country. Now it's your turn! --John McCain with apologies to Monty Python's "Protest Song"

      by Rich in PA on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 07:19:51 PM PST

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    •  A Little Disappointed (2+ / 0-)
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      wbramh, thebluecrayon

      I truly thought Rendell would have made an EXCELLENT Attorney General. Had Clinton won, I think he would have been announced by now.

      Being a Senator isn't his style. He likes to hold the steering wheel.  

      "The game's easy, Harry" - Richie Ashburn

      by jpspencer on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 07:21:55 PM PST

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      •  AG vs Senator (3+ / 0-)
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        collegekid318, wbramh, thebluecrayon

        I keep hearing stuff about Rendell being ethically challenged....people said it here a lot, when he was a Clinton surrogate.  I don't put much stock in it, and there's never been any evidence, but maybe something would come out if he were an AG choice.  Also, AG would be too much of a conflict with his wife's judgeship.

        As for senator, I see his point but I think that's just his blather.  He's a schmoozer and he'd be able to do a lot of it in the Senate.

        -5.38/-3.74 I've suffered for my country. Now it's your turn! --John McCain with apologies to Monty Python's "Protest Song"

        by Rich in PA on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 07:24:45 PM PST

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        •  Ed (2+ / 0-)
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          Rich in PA, thebluecrayon

          As pols go, I think Ed's pretty much a straight shooter.
          Among the Pols that I've personally worked with, I trust him more than most.
          I was pissed when he came out for Hillary but he had to do it.
          Ed does adhere to the Party honor system, and while that is annoyingly political it's also part of the territory.
          I never doubted that Ed would put his all behind Barack when the time came - and he really worked hard for him, criss-crossing the State many times over.
          And yes, he's a schmoozer and as you said, that would bode well in the Senate.
          Judge Midge or no Judge Midge, Ed would not have been my choice for AG.
          I'm not sure Eric Holder would have been my choice, either.
          If there's one position where I would have loved a truly ideological, Left-leaning Constitutional lawyer, it would have been running Justice.
          After the last eight years of slime and abuse, that Department is in desperate need of counterweights before it can return to some sense of balance.

          •  Rendell was the one surrogate I saw, on either (0+ / 0-)

            side (Clinton or Obama) who responded to the question of whether he would support the other candidate if he/she won with (approximately):

            You are damned right I would work my ass off for Obama.  

            So many other surrogates would give this lukewarm response or a maybe.

        •  If you are referring to anti Rendell comments (0+ / 0-)

          here, it seemed to me that there were a couple of people that continuously slammed him for no reason and without giving one.  They seemed not to be from Pennsylvania also.  There was this thing about Rendell praising Farrakhan that seems bogus to me.

          I love him and am from Pgh.

      •  I love your Ashburn quote (0+ / 0-)

        I used to work with Whitey.
        I once asked him about a young, promising and fleet-footed new Phillies Center fielder who was having some base running balance problems. The front office asked Richie if he would be willing to work with the guy and he agreed to try.
        I said, "Do you think he's ever going to be a great center fielder?"
        Ashburn answered, "Let me put it this way - he's no Richie Ashburn!"

    •  JoePa? (3+ / 0-)
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      LordMike, wbramh, thebluecrayon

      I really can't think of anyone else either.  Nutter?  I wonder if Harrisburg Mayor Reed will ever shoot for higher office?

      When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him.

      by gooners on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 07:27:45 PM PST

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    •  Good choice (0+ / 0-)

      I've worked with Ed a few times over the years, starting way back when he ran for DA.
      Authentically nice and personable guy.
      Graham Spanier was not on my list but is an interesting and worthy mention.

      Thanks for the comment,

    •  Spanier is a Republican. (1+ / 0-)
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        There are plenty of good Democratic congresscritters in Pennsylvania.  I don't understand.

      John McCain lets lobbyists shape his economic policy

      by redrelic17 on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 07:31:19 PM PST

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      •  Some Good ones, but... (0+ / 0-)

        Not many emerging (yet) with the whole package needed on the Gubernatorial level.
        Some good young ones, but 2010 maybe too soon for the bloom.

        Any favorites?

      •  No, he's a Democrat. (1+ / 0-)
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        To the point where the Palin advance team barred him from the arena on his own campus when she came to town a week before the election.

        -5.38/-3.74 I've suffered for my country. Now it's your turn! --John McCain with apologies to Monty Python's "Protest Song"

        by Rich in PA on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 08:45:55 PM PST

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        •  I stand corrected. (1+ / 0-)
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           I saw him the day when Obama spoke on campus.  Spanier could not stop glowering.  He wouldn't be a good choice, and he is rather conservative.  Why don't you like our congressmen?

          John McCain lets lobbyists shape his economic policy

          by redrelic17 on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 09:00:40 PM PST

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          •  I don't dislike them... (1+ / 0-)
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            ...but there are a lot of ways for a member of Congress to make a name for themselves (in a good way) and what PA Dem has done it, with the qualified exception of Murtha?  They're only in the news when they're in rough re-election battles.  This suggests to me that they're lacking something.  While it's true that Bob Casey was something of a nonentity, which might give hope to other nonentities, he is a unique case because he had a uniquely marketable bloodline and he was running against a uniquely self-damaging Republican incumbent. Nobody will beat even an old and sick Specter unless they have star power, and I'm not seeing it....why do you think Chris Matthews thinks he is viable?  I can't stand him and I won't vote for him, thus my urgency in finding another Dem who has charisma enough to win.

            -5.38/-3.74 I've suffered for my country. Now it's your turn! --John McCain with apologies to Monty Python's "Protest Song"

            by Rich in PA on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 09:29:40 PM PST

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    •  I believe what I read about Rendell not wanting (0+ / 0-)

      to do it until his term ends.  The Lt. Gov is a Republican so this would be terrible for the state.  How about Bob Casey running for the other seat and letting Rendell appoint his replacement.  Then Rendell could run when that term is up at the same time as his own.

      OK.  That's nuts, but I really don't think it is in anybody's best interest to have Rendell leave the governorship.  I am open to other scenarios.

  •  Another way to tell you're from Philly... (4+ / 0-)

    you think everyone loves Rendell.

    When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him.

    by gooners on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 07:25:01 PM PST

  •  HEllo from a fellow SE PA person (2+ / 0-)
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    wbramh, thebluecrayon

    I don't live in the city but I live just outside it. I honestly can't see PA voting for a republican senator besides Specter or Ridge.

    I personally really like Specter, even though I would vote democrat against him, I wouldn't mind him winning another term, although he is more likely to retire I think.

    •  I've never met Ridge, but.. (2+ / 0-)
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      Casual Wednesday, thebluecrayon

      A Republican State Pol friend of mine who knew Ridge well as Governor (and worked with him) referred to him as an "empty suit."
      As I mentioned, I've never met Ridge, but I've never been too impressed with him.  
      Maybe it's the fact that Ridge is as dull as Rendell is lively.

      At least he's not not a nutty ideologue.

      •  I met both of them (2+ / 0-)
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        wbramh, thebluecrayon

        They both came to Tioga County while I was a reporter there. That sounds like a fair critique. Ridge seemed to be more interested in the canned speech. Rendell actually sat at a table with the press and a few Dems and had a conversation.

        When Rendell came back after the election, he held a town-hall forum and again seemed like a very personable guy, even while disagreeing with the local Republicans.

        On a different note, I always heard that Scarnati detests Rendell. I have a photo of the two shaking hands. This ex-expatriate is amazed that Scarnati is now Lt. Governor.

        Rest in Peace Catherine Baker Knoll.

        Mr. President,...(a)fter 9/11, what would your biggest mistake be, would you say, and what lessons have you learned from it?

        by Casual Wednesday on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 09:14:59 PM PST

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    •  Well that skank Santorum and several other (1+ / 0-)
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      past.  I am afraid of any state that ever reelected Santorum.  Eeek.

      Let's hope scuz like Rickie are buried in the past.

      And, I do think Specter will retire.  There is a lot of evidence against it (mainly what he says) but my gut says no.  Still, if he were really retiring, there would be more movement in the GOP.

      Oh, and I have heard Onoroto (Allegheny Co) but my cronies hate him.

      How about Ravenstahl?

      •  Santorum's An Insult to Skanks (0+ / 0-)

        Onoroto and Ravenstahl are total unknowns over here on the Right Coast  (Philadelphia). Most of us Easterners have never heard of either of them.  Even my own knowledge of Pittsburgh politics was very limited until my daughter became a Pitt Panther.
        Both men would need to announce early and get the full benefit of time to establish their names and bonafides.

  •  I'm creating an "anybody but Matthews" campaign (2+ / 0-)
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    LordMike, wbramh

    Seriously.  Specter will win that match.  

    The strongest candidate to beat Specter is Rendell.  Unfortunately, Rendell has said about 100 billion times that he's not interested in being one of 100.  Maybe if we all wrote him "pretty please run for Senate, the future of the great state of PA is at stake..."  Nutter is a great choice for dark horse, but I don't know if he has appeal beyond Philadelphia.

    I've been trying to think of a beloved ex-sports person but even someone beloved in Philadelphia or Pittsburgh would not have the same appeal on the other side of the state.

    Oh and locals do call it Philly.  Need proof...just turn on the local news.

    •  The Local News (1+ / 0-)
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      Most of the local talking heads are imports.
      The rest try to be hip.
      Like - the Inquirer/ Daily News Web site.

      On the subject of Matthews....
      I think he'd have a good chance against Specter because of Specters age and health more than anything else.
      But I agree with you - Ed would be the strongest candidate as of this writing.

      •  Oh not the anchors. The people on the news. (1+ / 0-)
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        Dude(tte) on the street you know.  That's what I meant.  I figured that would be better than saying, "but I know people who say that all the time." :D  Doesn't matter to me though as long as we don't have to start calling it "Philadelphia Cheese Steak."  

        It's true Matthews might run strong initially but he's a master of putting more than two feet in his mouth at once (which may be a skill seeing as it's difficult) and that does not a good politician make.  I do think he's smarter than he lets on most of the time - makes for better tv.  But I don't have any faith he'd make a good senator.  Maybe I'll be proven wrong.  If I hear good plans, good positions and a display of his listening skills, then I'll change my tune.

        Shame we can't import a different celebrity.  It's all the fashion seeing as Barkley wants to run in Alabama of all places!  

        •  Charles is an Auburn Man (1+ / 0-)
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          Alabama has always been his home, at heart.
          But I agree, Matthews has zero listening skills.
          Perhaps he has more heart than I give him credit for.
          He did join the Peace Corps as a kid.
          But people change - and who knows what's behind that public persona.

          And cheese steaks to Philadelphians have always been just cheese steaks.
          The Phila. part is implied or written out for the touristas and the bad, packaged rip-offs that have been popping up around the country.

          As for Phila. celebs, we could bring back Kevin Bacon.
          His father Ed was a World-reknowned City Planner and a great guy.
          Had his face on the cover of Time Magazine.

          Kevins' older brother Michael was a friend of mine.
          Great talent in his own write - superb musician and composer.
          I guess I'm just 1 degree of separation from Kevin - having known known him as a little kid.

          •  Kevin Bacon - That would be great! (1+ / 0-)
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            One degree ain't bad.  I've never figured out where I am, but I'm guessing closer to six than one.

            He wouldn't move because of his wife and the success of The Closer, but wow what a wonderful choice.  Smart, great politics, still has strong ties to the area, charity work, hell of a musician...oh wait that last one maybe not such a qualification.  Maybe someone in his family wants to run?

            If you don't run, I'm nominating you to be campaign advisor.

        •  Matthews isn't that much of a celebrity (2+ / 0-)
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          wbramh, thebluecrayon

          to anyone other than the political groupies.  I saw a poll on that.

          •  But a legend (1+ / 0-)
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            In his own mind.

          •  Good to know. Where did you see that poll? (0+ / 0-)

            Would like to take a look.

            •  God, I don't remember. I feel like it was HuffPo (2+ / 0-)
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              wbramh, thebluecrayon

              I have been really busy and just go to a few sites.  I just did a search to see if anything rang a bell ... "Chris Matthews" poll senate recognition ±Huffington.

              I think it was Huffington but the pie charts on 538 look familiar.  I think it was here.

              I am certain it was Huffington and the 538 link.

            •  And, when only 1/3 of the voters knew that Obama (2+ / 0-)
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              wbramh, thebluecrayon

              was a Christian (at some point) ... we definitely overestimate what people know.  How many people watch Hardball and that is the ONLY place he is on.  The average Pennsylvanian ... no way.

              Chris reminds me of my PhD advisor in this one thing.  My advisor (Mike) met my family on a trip to a meeting.  He thought he had them in his pocket ... Huge ego.  But, my brother took me aside and said, "Freak".

              These people are utterly transparent to blue collar folks.  Can you see Chris Matthews with a plaid shirt on and hanging out with the Wal-Mart crowd?  I can't.  He totally fancies himself real but ... nah.

              •  Matthews, Reality & Stupidity (1+ / 0-)
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                You're right.
                Matthews sees politics as a game, and maybe it is to an extent.
                But politics often affect people's lives in a very ungame-like way.
                As for the ignorance of the Great Unwashed, perhaps President Obama will repopularize intelligence and real leadership.
                Personally, I've always preferred to know that the guy with the nuclear codes was smarter than me (and could pronounce the word nuclear).
                Maybe, in time, there really is "Hope."
                Certainly, in these very troubled times, doing no harm may be worse, than doing the wrong thing. If you make a mistake, you know it quickly.
                Doing no harm is to do nothing - and that can insidiously lead to an inextricably deeper disaster.
                Matthews is a pundit, not a problem solver - and not a man who ever showed a desire to be a leader, and not just a title-holder with power.
                He's the personality type who would choose to take the politically expedient route - and do no harm.
                Then again, how many of our so-called leaders actually lead?

                •  Not to imply that watching Hardball indicates a (1+ / 0-)
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                  higher intellect. : )

                  Nonetheless, I think we all need to work to get as much information as possible.  

                  I have this fantasy that if we could turn around the view of what is cool and what isn't ... it would be a revolution.  

                  It really bugs me that out there ... tv land, celebrities, and pop culture ... being smart is viewed as geeky.  The money that sports stars are paid, the whole works.  I saw a Mariah Carey video once with this geeky guy (some sort of repair person?) who clearly was in love with her.  Through the video, the guy was in a fantasy and at the end, she totally made a joke out of him.  Now, there's the ultimate anti intellectual, Sarah Palin.  Hopefully, it will only be interesting how the Palin thing plays out (and not tragic).

                  And, I too think that having a President who clearly values knowledge can't hurt.

    •  At first I was pissed at your comment: (0+ / 0-)

      "beloved ex-sports person" because it degrades the many quite good possibles (some listed here).  But are you subtly implying Franco?  He would have a lot of appeal on both sides of the state.

      •  Great politicians come from varied backgrounds (1+ / 0-)
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        I would prefer an experienced politician for this particular opening because it will be a rough transition for the state to go from senior senator and all its perks to very junior senator.  If we can't have that and win, I would prefer an inexperienced Dem to a Republican, because America needs to get an Obama agenda implemented, times are dire.  But, in general, it seems good that politicians should come from all different industries.  Sports, to me, seems a natural fit.  Successful athletes often have the drive, outlook, leadership abilities, social intelligence, experience with teamwork and with handling the press, knowledge of how to motivate others...there are so many qualities that overlap.  Pragmatically, starting out with the name recognition helps.

        Which Franco are you referring to?  Franco Harris?

        •  Yes, Franco Harris. He campaigns heavily for (1+ / 0-)
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          Democrats in Pittsburgh.  I was wondering if you were implying someone in particular and it seemed that he fit your comment.  But, a later comment suggested that it was more random than I was thinking.  Always reading between the lines, me.

          •  Glad you did read between the lines (0+ / 0-)

            I wouldn't have thought of Franco.  Who are the people not on the poll that you'd like to see?  Sestek and Schwartz could possibly contend.  If I get to attend one of those Obama house meetings on 13th/14th, seems very likely a discussion of our next Senate election will come up.

            •  If I had a clue, I would be more concerned (1+ / 0-)
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              about the state house and senate.  My big issue is the horrible gerrymandering that created the Pittsburgh districts.  I live in 18, which is one of the worst.  I should NOT have Tim Murphy as my congressman.

              I never really thought about it much but then I read an Economist article that looked at American politics from a different perspective.  Gerrymandering promotes apathy because 90% of the US Congressional elections are won by the incumbent.

              But, state senate elections don't inspire people much.

              •  Good Point (1+ / 0-)
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                Having a strong governor and a typically ignorant, lazy and corrupt legislature is like having General Pershing leading a Brownie troop into battle - corrupt Brownies, of course (I'm sure some are honest).
                Gerrymandering really does contribute to apathy and corruption -  and stifles change.

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    or another wingnut, I would like to see Joe Hoeffel run again.

    I met him when he visited Tioga County in 2004 during his run against (and 10 point loss to) Specter. He is a genuinely nice guy and a decent progressive. I think he would have beaten the tar out of Toomey that year.

    Mr. President,...(a)fter 9/11, what would your biggest mistake be, would you say, and what lessons have you learned from it?

    by Casual Wednesday on Tue Dec 02, 2008 at 09:06:16 PM PST

  •  The Attached Poll (1+ / 0-)
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    While I'm currently in 4th place (behind Rendell, Matthews & "Other"), I'm not ready to concede.
    At least not while I'm 1 vote ahead of Michael Nutter and 6 solid votes ahead of the dead Joe Clark.

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