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Two kinds of war monuments

Sun Feb 10, 2008 at 06:50:26 AM PDT

There are two basic kinds of war monuments here in France. The most ubiquitous and easy to find are those commemorating the fallen of World War I -- "the war to end all wars." There is at least one in every town and every hamlet, no matter how small, and all bear impossibly long lists of names of those who died "for the glory of France."

There are other monuments, often just plaques, affixed to what seem to be random walls and fences and buildings, scattered here and there in cities and suburbs: these are from World War II, and they commemorate a specific act at a specific moment in time that occurred on that very spot: members of the Resistance executed by the Nazis, for example.

What kind of monument will be built in Iraq?

In France, it does not matter how remote the place: even the tiniest hamlet on the most hard-to-get-to mountaintop has in its central square a monument to those who fell during World War I, "the war to end all wars." As I have traveled from place to place and looked around at the small number of houses still standing, still inhabited, the lists of names seem implausibly long: this village could not possibly have supplied so many soldiers!

Most heartbreaking to see are the same family names over and over again: Entire generations were wiped out, entire families obliterated. France lost one-quarter of its men between the ages of 18 and 45 in the First World War. It would be a much harder statistic to wrap one's brain around, but for the monuments: each name represented crops unharvested and animals untended, a schoolhouse without a teacher, a factory without skilled workers, a town without a leader. There are derelict buildings dotting the landscape that date from that conflict some 90+ years ago.

The outbreak of monument-building following the Great War was a way to honor the dead, to provide some small measure of consolation to those many widows and children left behind and bereft, and to remind generations to come of ultimate sacrifice. Some of the monument-builders and sculptors presciently left space to commemorate the fallen of subsequent wars, and many of these same monuments list the dead from World War II (with far fewer names). Every so often the same monument includes a handful of names belonging to the wars in "Indochine" (Vietnam) and Algeria, listed without commentary about the relative morality of these two latter conflicts.

But there is a second kind of monument, dating from World War II, that is also found all over France, but most particularly in the strongholds of the French Resistance. These are not so easy to find: they are rarely large, and they are almost always tied to a spot where something happened. Unlike the more formal monuments, these plaques, usually affixed to buildings and walls and fences, tell a brief story as well as list the names of the fallen. One senses that these plaques are there to keep the outrage alive as much as to honor the dead: whereas the monuments of World War I rarely make reference to the enemy, those who notice these plaques as they walk or drive by are directly reminded of the perpetrators' identity and guilt.

The impetus for writing this diary was my finally taking the time last week to pull over and read what was written on a monument on the side of a road that I take fairly often. Built pretty much in the middle of nowhere, this was a free-standing World War II monument, a tiny obelisk, and its plaque read something like this:

On this site, on [date in 1944], these brave resistance fighters were shot to death, victims of Nazi barbarianism [la barbarie Nazie]," followed by roughly 20 names, and then an admonition: "You who pass by, remember their sacrifice."

It did not matter to the French families of the victims that most German soldiers did not round up and summarily execute suspected Resistance fighters. Likewise, it will not matter to generations of Iraqis to come that most American soldiers were not guilty of "shooting first, and asking questions later," nor that many were kind and tried to be helpful to the Iraqis among whom they lived.

What kinds of monuments will be built in Iraq? There is only one possible answer: Iraqis will erect the kinds of monuments that will fuel outrage at the deeds leading to deaths of those listed. And if marked at all, our soldiers' deaths in that torn land will be remembered only as a "victory" for the insurgents.

What kinds of monuments will we build in America to honor our soldiers, who are almost without exception brave and decent human beings? Our soldiers are loving husbands and wives and sons and daughters and fathers and mothers and sisters and brothers. They have left their homes and loved ones far behind at the behest of unscrupulous leaders and corporate profiteers who know little and care even less about the horrors of war. Our soldiers have died viewed as enemy occupiers, unmourned in Iraq. Nationally, politically, Bush and his minions keep them as invisible and as generally unlamented as possible: in a failed war, even heroes are an embarrassment and a liability. But they are mourned by their loved ones and by those in the towns and cities whence they came.

Still, the sad truth is that America will build no monuments to their courage and sacrifice for many years to come, if ever.

[Cross-posted to mofembot.com.]

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    •  Mr Mofembot (0+ / 0-)

      reminds me that I should point out that German war memorials are almost the opposite of the French: their monuments to the fallen in World War I make mention of the fight to "defend the Fatherland," whereas the memorials from World War II merely list the names of the dead.

      Book excerpts: nonlynnear; other writings: mofembot.

      by mofembot on Sun Feb 10, 2008 at 09:10:50 AM PDT

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  •  Thank you. (4+ / 0-)

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    Well said, to which little can be added.

    So long as men die, Liberty will never perish. -- Charlie Chaplin, "The Great Dictator"

    by khereva on Sun Feb 10, 2008 at 06:51:56 AM PDT

  •  Well If History Repeats Itself (4+ / 0-)

    a long ... long time. Take WWII, Korea, or Vietnam. Those took decades, generations. Sad but true.

    Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

    by webranding on Sun Feb 10, 2008 at 06:54:22 AM PDT

  •  Just As An Aside (2+ / 0-)

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    What you mentioned about plaques in France, the same holds true in the south and in states like Virginia and Maryland where the major battles of the Civil War were fought. They are everywhere if you slow down and take the time to look for them :)!

    Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

    by webranding on Sun Feb 10, 2008 at 07:01:09 AM PDT

    •  Yes. A lady living in my village (2+ / 0-)

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      has a scrapbook in which she has placed photos of the monuments (mostly the WWI variety) in all the places she has visited.

      I try to make a point of inspecting the names on the WWI monuments I see and reading the plaques. There was a plaque on a wall not too far from the first house we lived in here: another memorial to Resistance fighters executed by the Nazis. Not especially noticeable unless one is walking on the sidewalk next to it.

      Sobering.

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      by mofembot on Sun Feb 10, 2008 at 07:07:41 AM PDT

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    •  unfortunately, nearby where I live (0+ / 0-)

      there were several famous battles: Chickamauga, Chattanooga, Orchard Knob, Missionary Ridge and Battle Above the Clouds.  Several of these areas are in neglect or properties are paved over by streets and WalMarts.  

      I wish we cared more about our battlefields.   There has been significant cutbacks in funding for them under the Bush years.  It is really pathetic.

  •  There will be an Iraq War Memorial (3+ / 0-)

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    in some prominent location in DC, just as there are the memorials near the Lincoln Memorial to those who died in World War II, Korea and Vietnam.  There are several problems:

    First, the National Park Service doesn't want any more monuments on the Mall.

    Second, as you state, there is the issue of what kind of monument will be built.  The pro-Vietnam War folks, led by then Navy Secretary Jim Webb, wanted a heroic monument, while others wanted one to make no other statement but to honor the dead.  As a compromise, both monuments were built, but the one with the three soldiers pushed by now Senator Webb is, in comparison to the powerful Wall, all but ignored.

    Outside of DC, how many monuments have been built to honor the dead of Vietnam?  I suspect not many.  Maryland's monument, listing all Marylanders who died, is at a not too accessible location at the south end of the Hanover Street Bridge in Baltimore.  When I have visited it, I have seen no other visitors, nor any flowers or other signs of visits left by the names of the Maryland dead.

    "Great men do not commit murder. Great nations do not start wars." William Jennings Bryan

    by Navy Vet Terp on Sun Feb 10, 2008 at 07:06:20 AM PDT

  •  France monument to Algeria war dead (0+ / 0-)

    This an old 2001 BBC article.

    France has announced the go-ahead for a national memorial to its soldiers who died in the Algerian war of independence from 1954 to 1962.

    The French deputy defence minister, Jean-Pierre Masseret, says the memorial will be a large wall carrying the names of approximately twenty-four-thousand French military personnel who were killed in the conflict.

    It will be inaugurated next year near the Eiffel Tour.

    The minister said the war in Algeria was a horrible conflict, in which torture was used by all sides.

    But he said the vast majority of young Frenchmen who served in Algeria were never involved in such acts. In a related development, the French president, Jacques Chirac, announced a day of remembrance for Algerians who died fighting for France in the war.

    Four out five sock puppets agree

    by se portland on Sun Feb 10, 2008 at 07:18:31 AM PDT

  •  Better than memorials -- how about we just (4+ / 0-)

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    take care of the veterans still surviving? The Nation  has yet another searing article about how Iraq Veterans (this time Marine Corps) are being screwed over by the system, incarcerated instead of treated for PTSD, and ultimately left to fend for themselves.  Once again, I wonder, where's all that 'support' for the troops when they need it?

    "Going to church does not make us Christians any more than stepping into our garage makes us a car." --Rev R. Neville

    by catleigh on Sun Feb 10, 2008 at 07:27:54 AM PDT

  •  Nice diary! (1+ / 0-)

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    I think you’re understating the arguments behind the wording of these signs (which can be found all over France, and are quite numerous in Paris).

    The blame is – or rather was once – ascribed mostly to La barbarie nazie, at a time when there were attempts to separate the "good" from the not-so-good Germans; though I recall a sign in Paris that described someone as Lâchement assassiné par les boches, which translates roughly as: "Murdered by the cowardly Huns." Pretty forthright.

    More recently there’s been a push to lay the blame where it often belonged, e.g. on the French fascist collaborators. I can't recall ever seeing references to a "Victime des Milices," "Victime de Pétain," etc.

    I wonder how all that will sound in Arabic...

    BTW - There was an article in the New York Times on a similar topic: the critic, Michael Kimmelman, protested against an effort to take down monuments in Spain that "atone" for the victims of the Spanish Civil War in a one-sided way. I wrote a brief piece about it:

    "Museum, Inc: Inside the Global Art World" (University of Chicago Press). "Musée et cie : Globalisation de la culture" (The Orange Press).

    by Paul Werner on Sun Feb 10, 2008 at 07:28:47 AM PDT

    •  Kimmelman... (1+ / 0-)

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      well. What can I say. I am glad that many of these monstrosities have been dismantled: they did nothing but continually pour salt in some very deep wounds.

      The pendulum of remembrance has clearly swung to the Spanish Republican side, at least for the moment -- after nearly 40 years of Franco's version of events, some balance is long past due.

      Book excerpts: nonlynnear; other writings: mofembot.

      by mofembot on Sun Feb 10, 2008 at 07:54:30 AM PDT

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    •  Here's a video by the Dutch daily "Volkskrant" (1+ / 0-)

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      ... about the largest such monument of them all: what is actually dictator Franco's mausoleum complex, masquerading as a memorial to the Civil War dead. It was erected with slave labor, Republican POWs held by the Fascists.

      Filming or photographing the site is usually verboten, which makes such footage and photos rare. The Dutch film crew had to go to great lengths to get approval.

      Franco's tomb is in the chapel, behind the altar. His admirers see to it that fresh flowers are laid on his tomb every week.
      http://www.vk.tv/...

      The Dutch children's chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen (= “kids for kids”): is a world cultural treasure.

      by lotlizard on Sun Feb 10, 2008 at 08:33:28 AM PDT

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  •  As my husband has been working in Spain recently, (0+ / 0-)

    I have had the opportunity to go to Madrid and elsewhere several times. It has been heartwrenching to see the Spanish grapple with the still-lingering effects of their Civil War. No family was untouched.

    The movie Pan's Labyrinthe gives a small taste of what the Spanish Civil War was like.

    In Grenoble, at least, there was an uptick in exhibits and symposia about collaborators and Resistance workers, particularly in 2005 around the 60th anniversary of V-E Day. One person honored was Marie Reynouard, a high school teacher who helped pull together various local factions of the Resistance; she was ultimately deported and died in captivity.

    Pétain, a World War I hero, is held in great contempt for his complicity and collaboration with the Nazis.

    Book excerpts: nonlynnear; other writings: mofembot.

    by mofembot on Sun Feb 10, 2008 at 07:42:55 AM PDT

  •  I like your thought provoking diary. (2+ / 0-)

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    When in D.C. in Sept '05, I made a point to visit the Wall, memorial to American victims of the Vietnam war. Even more than I expected, the dark nature of sacrificing our soldiers for hegemony was palpable there.

    Your diary made me wonder what appropriate format or venue would apply the particular type of greed that started and continues to enable our current war of occupation. Profiteering is always front and center in my mind when I think about Iraq, so I wondered what setting could represent the corporate influence over our Congress, who refuses to bring their militant profit-generating enterprises to an end.

    Of course! K-Street is where it should be. That led me to this.

    It's only a banner, and it's intentions may be pure, but it's very unsettling to me that this reminder is on the street synonymous with corporate influence in our government.

    Sadly, it makes sense.

    "Oh, boy, this is gonna be dark..." - TV's Frank.

    by jorogo on Sun Feb 10, 2008 at 08:43:45 AM PDT

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