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Clinton's Perilous Path to a Pledged Delegate Lead

Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 01:32:36 PM PDT

In the race for the Democratic nomination, there are three sets of delegates one should consider: pledged delegates, superdelegates, and disputed delegates (which includes those from Florida and Michigan). Here, I take a look at the pledged and unassigned delegates and show how they highlight the significance of the large wins being predicted for Barack Obama today.

The bottom line is this: after tonight, Clinton will be at a point in the campaign where she will have to make up significant ground, or else make incredibly destructive moves to obtain the nomination. Contrast this to Obama, who should be at a point in his campaign where all he has to do is split the remaining delegates to ensure a unified nomination without controversy.

According to Real Clear Politics, at the time I write this Obama has 1004 pledged delegates compared to Clinton's 925 (follow the link for a state-by-state breakdown of the tally). In addition to this, there are 48 unassigned delegates in states that have already held primaries or caucuses but have not yet finished assigning delegates, 26 delegates elected in support of John Edwards, and 331 potential delegates from Michigan and Florida. 47 of the 48 unassigned delegates originate from two states (Colorado and Washington) where Obama earned over twice as many votes as Clinton. Its likely that Obama will increase his delegate lead as these delegates are assigned. To make a rough estimate, let's guess that Obama gets 35 of these delegates, and Clinton gets 13. This would bring our pledged delegate totals to 1039 for Obama and 938 for Clinton, a triple-digit lead for Obama.

Now, as for the Florida and Michigan delegates... the DNC's Credentials Committee will decide their fate, assuming the campaign lasts long enough for these states to matter. If you take a look at that link, you'll find the committee is composed of 186 people. 161 of them will be assigned in accordance with pledged delegate proportions and the other 25 (listed here) were already nominated by Howard Dean and approved by the DNC. If Obama carries 50% of the remaining delegates, he'll end up with ~52% of the assigned committee members, or ~83 people. This means Clinton would have to convince 16 of the 25 committee members assigned by Dean to support seating of the Michigan and Florida delegates.

Let's assume she does that, and those delegates are seated. According to estimates by The Green Papers, Clinton would win 111 delegates, Obama would win 69, and Edwards would win 13. If we include these in the pledged delegate totals, we would have 1078 for Obama and 1049 for Clinton. As for Michigan, Clinton won 55% of the popular vote and "Uncommitted" won 40% of the popular vote. The exit polls suggest 78% of the "Uncommitted" voters would have chosen Obama if he were on the ballot. This represents 31% of the total vote (70% of the 40% who voted "Uncommitted"). Thus, a good first-order approximation is that Clinton would get 55% of Michigan's 128 delegates (~70) and Obama would get 31% of Michigan's delegates (~40), with the remaining delegates going to Edwards. This would bring our delegate totals to 1118 for Obama and 1119 for Clinton. This would finally put her over the top.

HOWEVER, that does not include today's results. Obama is certain to pick up delegates today. If we are to believe recent polls, Obama should cruise to 3 more victories with a lead in the popular votes in the vicinity of 20 points. If we assume delegates are assigned proportionally to the poll data (I used Survey USA where available) use the projections from Constituent Dynamics (pdf warning) that were posted by Kos as I wrote this, Obama would win ~106 100 delegates and Clinton would win ~62 68 delegates. This would give us the following totals for elections held to date: 1226 1232 for Obama and 1179 1187 for Clinton. (The upcoming primaries in Hawaii and Wisconsin may increase this lead even further.)

Now you Edwards supporters may have been totaling his delegates under this scenario. He has 26 to date, and would gain another 24 if Michigan and Florida are seated and the Uncommitted Michigan delegates vote according to exit polls. This it a total of 50 delegates, and Clinton would need almost every single one to overcome Obama's delegate lead at this point.

What does all of this mean? Well, after tonight, Obama will have a commanding lead in pledged delegates. In order to overcome this lead, Clinton has two options:

1.) Dominate the rest of the primaries the same way Obama has been dominating the last 8 contests

2.) Convince 2/3rds of the 25 delegates appointed to the DNC's Credentials Committee to overrule the sentiments of the 181 delegates appointed based on election results, getting the Florida and Michigan delegates to be seated according to the results of the previous primaries, convince Edwards AND all his pledged delegates to back her campaign.

In my opinion, 2.) is simply politically untenable, especially because even after all that political maneuvering, Clinton would only have a lead of 3 17 in pledged delegates. Thus, if Obama pads his lead by more than 3 17 in the remaining primaries, she'd STILL be behind in pledged delegates even after all the strong-arming of Michigan and Florida into the convention, and will have to rely on superdelegates after all this. This situation would be nothing short of a disaster, as the party would be split and this would reinforce the (sometimes unfairly assigned) preconceptions of the Clinton camp being tied to dirty political tricks. The party be deflated in support of its nominee, their presidential candidate's worst story line would be accentuated, and legal battles may drag things out even further.

Realistically, Hillary has only one option left: dominate the rest of the contests. Its that simple. Obama's pledged delegate lead has increased to the point where the previous primaries in Michigan and Florida and Edwards' pledged delegates are becoming meaningless. I say this not because votes in Michigan, in Florida or for Edwards don't matter, nor do I say this because the primaries in Michigan and Florida broke DNC rules. I say this because at this point in the race, the only scenario under which Michigan, Florida, and Edwards delegates make a difference would necessarily involve political and legal wrangling that would destroy the only candidate these delegates could potentially assist.

UPDATED: According to the projection KOS posted as I wrote this diary, Obama is projected to win tonight's primaries by a total delegate count of 100-68. This would give Clinton 6 more delegates, and Obama 6 less than I projected above. I've changed the numbers accordingly, but this doesn't change the main conclusions... Hillary needs to kick-ass in the remaining contests to have any shot at the nomination.

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  •  I would be OK with Hillary winning the nomination (10+ / 0-)

    ... but not like this.

  •  NAACP head calls for seating Florida delegation (5+ / 0-)

    "Yours for Humanity" Abby Kelley

    by Abby Kelleyite on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 01:34:30 PM PDT

  •  Don't forget the Automatic Delegates (1+ / 0-)

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    "We're all working for the Pharaoh" - Richard Thompson

    by mayan on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 01:36:46 PM PDT

  •  Don't count your pledged delegates until (1+ / 0-)

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    you get them safely to the convention.  Or so says CounterPunch's Alexander Cockburn:

    The current pattern is that Obamian enthusiasts go the caucuses and delivery fiery speeches about their man and his dream of change, rack up a substantial victory and head back to campus, aglow with victory. But then the party regulars regroup, the labor organizers confer, and the party establishment strikes back at the state convention, where those delegates pledged at the caucus are "authorized" in a series of backroom deals.

    Gary Hart learned this the hard way in 1984. Hart had won his political spurs in a famous mutiny of the Democratic base, when Hart managed George McGovern's successful drive to the nomination in 1972. In the early states of the 1984 campaign Hart won a dramatic victory by ten points over Walter Mondale in New Hampshire. Short on money, Hart then aimed, exactly like Obama, at the caucuses to show momentum. After Super Tuesday, Mondale and Hart were neck and neck. Then Hart cleaned up in the caucuses, just as Obama is now doing. The two split the big states. Mondale won New York and Pennsylvania. Hart won Ohio and California. Then, in the weeks before the Democratic Party convention Mondale and the Democratic Party machine went into action at the various state conventions. Hart watched aghast as his hard-won delegates melted back into the smoke-filled rooms and emerged with Mondale buttons on their lapels. The coup de grace came with Mondale's efficient capture of the Super Delegates, who went to him almost en bloc.

    There was another powerful challenge in 1984, from Jesse Jackson. At the early part of the campaign for the Democratic nomination Jackson won five primaries and caucuses ­ Louisiana, Washington DC, South Carolina, Virginia and Mississippi (which duly reversed Jackson's singular triumph at the state convention.} Altogether, Jackson got 3.3 million primary votes, 21 per cent of the total votes cast in the 1984 primaries and caucuses. He ended up with precisely 8 per cent of the delegates. Jackson bitterly denounced the process as a rigged affair that should be reformed. Nothing has changed.

    So although Obama has pulled even and on some counts is ahead in delegates pledged to him thus far, these numbers are far from conclusive.

  •  Seat Half of the Fl/MI Delegates (0+ / 0-)

    This is the punishment that Republicans used. You'd still punish Florida and Michigan for breaking the rules and keep Michigan in the Democratic column in the fall. Most likely, Michigan and Florida won't be the difference between losing or winning. The problem with the current punishment is that its a harsh punishment that was implemented after Michigan and Florida moved up their primary dates.

  •  Delegates from Democrats Abroad (1+ / 0-)

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    redvolution

    I haven't seen ANYONE mention these, and I get conflicting reports on how many there are. Wikipedia says 22, one article said 14, another said 11, another said 7. But pretty much everyone thinks Obama will take most of those.

    Can someone explain that situation to me?

    I mean, how bad could Senator John McPalpatine possibly be?

    by terra on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 01:41:58 PM PDT

  •  This part was funny (4+ / 0-)

    Realistically, Hillary has only one option left: dominate the rest of the contests.

    I think the word you were looking for was 'prayer' not 'option.'  It's like saying my best option for today is to reach into my hat and pull out a million dollars.  

    Personally, I think he beat her in my neighborhood a couple of months ago.  We've never seen anything like we saw on caucus night, Jan 3 2008.  

    I think a lot of Hillary supporters in Iowa knew she was beat that night.  It was an intense, ten month campaign and Obama came in with none of the built in advantages of Clinton or Edwards.  For him to have done what he did in Iowa really should have told people all they needed to know about who the strongest candidate is.  There was no way to fake your way through Iowa.  You had to win support from people who could go and personally listen to and meet all of the candidates.  To have won that as the prohibitive underdog was freaking amazing and being a part of it changed a lot of people here.  

    McCain is not getting my state. Is he getting yours?

    by Sun dog on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 01:50:08 PM PDT

  •  Edwards does not have 26 (0+ / 0-)

    Iowa has not actually selected their delegates yet and when they do (next month, maybe?), the Edwards "delegates" will likely go to Clinton/Obama.  I would guess they will be roughly evenly split, although that is not certain

    Want a progressive global warming novel, not a right wing rant? Go to www.edwardgtalbot.com for a free audio thriller.

    by eparrot on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 02:00:57 PM PDT

  •  In summary, (1+ / 0-)

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    redvolution

    Obama is so far ahead in pledged delegates, she would need to pull in the superdelegates AND Michigan and Florida to overcome this advantage.

    That move right there will split the party and end any shot she has at winning the general election. There is no way to expect party unity after doing something like that. I know for certain if she wins like that I'm not voting for any Democrat anywhere.

    If she's going to win this thing, she had better get ahead on pledged delegates where the vote was contested fair and square.

    With him from the beginning, with him until the end.

    by brooklynbadboy on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 02:08:12 PM PDT

  •  Make destructive moves? (0+ / 0-)

    She already did that and it backfired on her.

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