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My mom is a 45-year old lifelong Republican.

Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 03:30:41 AM PDT

Bless her heart, she's born and bred GOP. Voted for Reagan twice, Bush Sr, twice, cried watching the Clinton inauguration, voted for Dole in '96.

When I told her I supported Gore in 2000 she was visibly disappointed. "I can't believe you're a Democrat..." she would trail off, shaking her head in disappointment. Where had she gone wrong? That year she proudly voted for Bush, "to save lives". Her support only grew more fervent after the 9/11 attacks.

Then came the Iraq war. She was starting to have her doubts. She realized, before most Americans, that the invasion of Iraq was completely unrelated to terrorism. Yet in 2004 she voted for Bush again, because she "wasn't sure that Kerry could keep us safe".

Then came Katrina. My mom completely lost it. By the end of 2005 she couldn't support Bush anymore - so she sat out the 2006 elections, and last time I went home she couldn't stop saying "Bush isn't a Republican, he's a criminal."

Last weekend, she called me to complain about the election laws in our state, Maryland. See, we have closed primaries, and my mom is still a registered Republican. And she had been really excited to vote in the upcoming primaries...

...for Barack Obama.

My mom has no enthusiasm for John McCain - she's fearful of another Cheney-like VP who will seize power if McCain's health fails. She loathes the Clintons, convinced that they're dishonest and generally sleazy.

But she's open to listening to what Barack Obama has to say.

My mom is not the only one of her kind out there. Right now, for the first time, millions of Americans are waking up to what the Republican Party has become, what Bush and Co. have done to this country, how bad things have gotten and how far we've fallen from what we once were. For the first time, millions of Americans are rejecting the political ideology they were raised on, casting about for something new they can believe in. Something they can hope for. Something that can restore their faith in America after the Bush administration destroyed it.

Barack Obama is that hope.

Hillary Clinton is a victim of the battles of the 90's - forever trapped in the us-versus-them mentality that Democrats needed to survive the Republican onslaught of that era. Make no mistake, the Clintons put up a good defense when the deck was stacked against them. They had to fight rough and tumble sometimes, but they held the gate. But that era forever defined how the Clintons will view people like my mom: At worst, enemies to be held off at any cost; At best, swing voters who can be neutralized with school uniforms and other "microtrends".

Obama is offering my mom, and millions of people like her, something to believe in, a clean break from the past. And that's what my mom needs right now. Even though Obama and Clinton hold many of the same positions, only Obama recognizes the opportunity afforded by this moment in history. Because only Obama is willing to go to people like my mother and present an entire framework, a vision of America, which starts with the axioms of freedom, opportunity and possibility, and leads to health care and civil liberties. Where Hillary Clinton's approach to my mom is to condemn rap music and welfare queens, Obama rejects the politics of microtrends and speaks directly, openly, and honestly to people like my mom. And that's why she is supporting him.

So I apologized to my mom for Maryland's closed primary law, but I made her a promise. I promised her that in November, she'll be able to vote for Obama in the general election.

Please help me keep my promise.

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    •  tip for you: (7+ / 0-)

      why don't you, rather than allowing your mom to continue believing like a 'lifelong Republican', the virtues of the Democratic PARTY, rather than just the virtues of one candidate??  This way, you've converted a person for life, rather than just for one election/for one candidate.  
      To simply just write out that your mom thinks the Clintons are "dishonest and generally sleazy" is just allowing her to repeat a republican meme.
      This probably won't go over well on "dailykobama", but the last I checked, this site was about advancing the beliefs of the PARTY, not just of one candidate, you have an opportunity to truly educate your mom while she's receptive, to forego that because her attitude about the Clintons benefits your candidate right this second is immature.

      "Be the change that you want to see in the world."- Gandhi

      by hopefulcanadian on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 03:41:51 AM PDT

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      •  that should say TEACH the virtues of the (0+ / 0-)

        Democratic party..

        "Be the change that you want to see in the world."- Gandhi

        by hopefulcanadian on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 03:42:50 AM PDT

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        •  Sometimes "teaching" is a gradual process ... (3+ / 0-)

          My brother is open to the idea of Obama after years of supporting Repugs.

          Running over with the party handbook and badge may not be the best approach.

          In time he may start supporting fair taxes for the wealthy, health care, education and other Obama positions.

          For now, tolerance is the best I can hope for.

          Obama for President '08

          by Bronxist on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 04:35:55 AM PDT

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      •  I "allow" (15+ / 0-)

        my mom to say or believe whatever she wants. As I "allow" ANYONE to say or believe whatever they want. My mom and I have had lots of frank discussions about our various disagreements in politics and everything else. And as much as I disagree with her, I can see where she's coming from sometimes.

        Obama is getting through to my mom in a way Clinton, and most Democrats, never could. He's communicating progressive ideals in a way that makes sense to her, for the first time. And she's ready to hear it.

        Now lay off my mom.

        jaiapprovedthis - Because I am right about things.
        Abolish Superdelegates by 2012

        by Jaiwithani on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 03:46:58 AM PDT

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        •  This isn't about your mom (1+ / 0-)

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          Jaiwithani, if I gave you that impression I apologise- its about you.  She can believe whatever she wants, and most likely WILL continue to believe what she does, but I was talking about YOUR noted lack of disagreement with some typical, uniformed Republican memes that she was repeating about the Clintons, perhaps because right now, it benefits your candidate.
          If I heard Republicans repeating FALSE memes about Obama (he's a Muslim etc etc), I'd DEFEND him, I just noted your lack of such sentiment when you stated what she thought of the Clintons.  Like it or not, Clinton MAY be the Democratic nominee this year, and if so, people like you who sit on your hands so to speak while these falsehoods are being propagated against ANY democrat, for temporary advantage to your current favourite candidate only hurts the party in the end.

          "Be the change that you want to see in the world."- Gandhi

          by hopefulcanadian on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 04:08:12 AM PDT

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      •  the clintons (1+ / 0-)

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        ARE dishonest... that's a fact.

        Look Bill Clinton was a good president.. but he was also Sleazy and dishonest.

        Where's the false meme there?  Lewinsky and the cigar...yeah.. that's sleazy

      •  really now, (3+ / 0-)

        tip for you:
        why don't you, rather than allowing your mom to continue believing like a 'lifelong Republican', the virtues of the Democratic PARTY, rather than just the virtues of one candidate??  ......  
        , you have an opportunity to truly educate your mom while she's receptive, to forego that because her attitude about the Clintons benefits your candidate right this second is immature.

        I would love sit at at one of your family gatherings. I can just imagine how respectful you must be when they have differing opinions.

        And to tell the diarist they are immature because he/she doesn't rip Mom a new one? Christus.  That's kinda low.

        And my Mom, a lifelong Independent, is voting for Obama too. She's 75 and simply cannot stand Hillary Clinton. I will never. ever. EVER. Get into an argument with my Mom on why she is wrong on that. She's lived a long long life. Not an easy one her first 20 years. And I will let her say and feel whatever she wants if it does not hurt anyone. I will not lecture a woman on politics that I adore if not worship.

        I love my mom more than I love the Clintons, period.

        Prop to the diarist for already knowing all this.

        "Oh no...you changed your hair color? It's just so dark. You like it? And with your skin tone?" My Beloved Mom, December 25 2007, once again on notice.

        by Christin on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 05:21:47 AM PDT

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      •  bringing up Reagan again... (1+ / 0-)

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        In 1980 or so, there were a lot of people whose values were becoming more "Republican", but who started out as Democrats and habitually voted that way. They may have felt sympathy for the conservative viewpoint, but couldn't quite get past Nixon, Goldwater et al. Because he was so popular and optimistic, Reagan gave these people cover to vote for a Republican. Hence "Reagan Democrats" who often ceased to be Democrats.

        Obama can serve the same function. I'd say at this point, there are a lot of people who are unhappy with Republicans, but vote Republican out of habit, and can't bring themselves to get past their problems with Bill Clinton or Ted Kennedy etc. Obama offers them a way to vote Democratic without validating people they really dislike. So in that way, I don't think it's just about Obama--it's Obama offering people "cover" to oppose Bush. The second part, sealing the deal with these people beyond Obama, is really up to the rest of the party. The party needs to offer, pass, and enact sound policies, and not become corrupt or drunk with power.

        Especially here, we hate the idea that individual people can single-handedly change things (there's probably some kind of political science theory behind that...) We hate "cults of personality"--we try to pretend they don't work. But that's not reality based.

        Barack Obama will only become president if enough people pay attention, so pay attention, dammit!

        by JMS on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 06:20:10 AM PDT

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  •  I have a Republican (9+ / 0-)

    friend in Omaha who is doing the same thing.  She is adamently pro-life, a very conservative Missouri synod Lutheran.  However, the past few years have appalled her and she is excited about Obama. She hopes that he will be able to effect real positive changes in ways that other candidates can not.

  •  Not an Obama supporter, (11+ / 0-)

    but my mother, a 49 year old lifelong Republican, is.

    And she's ferocious in her support of him, even in the primaries.  She'd vote HRC, if she were the nom (she's burnt out on the GOP) but she's excited to support Senator Obama.

    $.02

    blind idealism is pure folly when you are standing on a precipice ~edrie

    by Marcus Tullius on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 03:35:29 AM PDT

  •  Good post. (9+ / 0-)

    My parents are both in the same boat. They're a little more moderate, but the gist is the same. Both liked Reagan, both thought Clinton was a scumbag, both voted for Dole, Bush, and the Bush again (because 'you don't change horses in the middle of a war').
    Now, they're both strongly for Barack. As for Hillary, a quote from my mom. "She's a smart woman, but I don't trust her for one minute."
    They didn't trust Romney, Guillini, Huckabee, or Thompson either, but in a choice between Hillary and McCain, they'll go McCain in a heartbeat.

  •  I'm voting for Clinton but... (4+ / 0-)

    If Obama wins the nomination, I will vote for him and I hope all of you will do the same.

    I'm sure you'll have some cosmic rationale - Billy Joel

    by leftbird on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 03:38:46 AM PDT

  •  My republican mother-in-law and her husband (6+ / 0-)

    announced this weekend that they'll vote for Obama if he's the nominee. They live in rural Missouri. I was ecstatic to hear it.

    They do NOT like McCain. In fact, the husband has PTSD and he says "no way in HELL McCain doesn't have a severe case himself"... scary, but likely true!

  •  bless your mom (4+ / 0-)

    This diary and other comments I've heard lately have me wondering ... seems like the DNC should work on getting Goopers and independents re-registered as Democrats so they can vote in the primaries. I wonder how much of a spike there would be in turnout if that happened.

    -7.38, -5.23 "Though the storm may be raging, and the billows tossing high, Lord I feel like going on."

    by CocoaLove on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 03:42:03 AM PDT

  •  My dad is a 79-year old Republican, (5+ / 0-)

    lives in Arizona, and absolutely abhors McCain.  This ought to be interesting.  Heh.

  •  I previously said I wouldn't vote for Hillary (5+ / 0-)

    but it's not true and I knew it when I said it.

    I would.

    Looks like I won't need to but I would.

    And I don't agree with some folks who say she and Bill would "do anything... ANYTHING, to win".

    I think she'll prove that wrong sometime in March.

    Do I think she'll bow out when she needs to? Yes.

    So I think she'll campaign for Obama? Yes, I do.

    If it goes the other way, I think Obama will do the same.

    It rubs the loofah on its skin or else it gets the falafel again.

    by Fishgrease on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 03:47:08 AM PDT

  •  Honest question (4+ / 0-)

    what do your Republican Moms believe in?  What is it about Obama that attracts them?

    •  My mom believes in (2+ / 0-)

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      ending the war, making sure we all have health care, making sure we do something about the climate crisis, enacting a living wage, and fixing our education system.

      She also believes that Roe v. Wade needs to be overturned, that the wall between church and state needs to brought down, that homosexuals should be denied certain rights, and that we are in a war with Islam (just not in Iraq).

      Explain that mix to me.

      blind idealism is pure folly when you are standing on a precipice ~edrie

      by Marcus Tullius on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 03:55:32 AM PDT

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    •  Well, to be honest... (1+ / 0-)

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      In my mother-in-law's case, I think she just feels it's the safer choice if McCain is the Republican candidate. She and her husband HATE the war (he's a Vietnam vet on disability).

      And they hate what the Republican party has become. This election was the Republicans' chance to put forward a candidate to redeem the party. Didn't happen.

    •  Opportunity for her grandchildren. (0+ / 0-)

      And end to the waste of money and lives that is Iraq.

      More harmony among the people (and, frankly peopleS) of the US.

      More respect for this country around the world.

      A better health care system than she has been experiencing in her twilight years.

      A positive vision for the future, in which we're working together to help people's lives.

      For my Mom, it's probably her last Presidential election, and she's going to sneak in a vote for Obama, her first D vote ever, if he's our nominee. Makes sense to me.

      John McCain: Getting Terrorists off America's Lawn since 1880

      by pat208 on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 04:43:30 AM PDT

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  •  the hatred for hillary (6+ / 0-)

    is really kind of horrifying. I don't want to vote for her, but if she's the democratic candidate I will. Yet I hear all sorts of people (the woman who cuts my hair, my neighbors) who say things like they'd vote for BUSH again if it was Hillary vs Anyone.

    These are people who think he's a crappy president but they hate Hillary that much.
    Why?
    Because.... well... Nothing to do with her  politics or her ideas, of course. Just because she's so unlikeable. Why? Because...ummm She's just despicable. Why? Because.

    Based on nothing they can put their finger on (at least the two people I've pushed) But It's REAL dammit.

    Scares the beejeebers out of me that they'd vote for McCain just because he's not Hillary. Talk about non-reasoning.  

    •  I don't like the Clintons politically (3+ / 0-)

      but a lot of the mellon-scaife, ginned-up whitewater hatred of Hillary was pure right-wing misogyny that we should stay away from... sort of how the Republicans loathed and viciously mocked Eleanor Roosevelt. The right-wing often needs some one to focus hatred on, to emblematize their fear of change and loss of status...  the left is not immune either.

      But, then again Hillary is no Eleanor Roosevelt.

      There's no making sense out of electoral preferences. Most people aren't political junkies and get information in a way that seems odd to those who are. Many many people find 'politics' annoying and even disgusting, and listening to political talk like going to the dentist.

      Apparently (a poll said) the Republicans who went for McCain in NH were the more antiwar Republicans.... people think that Hillary is to the left of Obama, Edwards supporters who ould prefer McCain or Hillary...Obama leaners who could go to Mcain?

      It's all a mystery. But I see Obama's power of convocation as a deeply positive force. I'm more afraid it'll dissipate, or, in the end, be swallowed up by business-as-usual. But we'll have a better chance of holding him accountable to the base than any politician in a long while, because it's the mobilization of the base that's carrying him forward...

    •  I feel sorry for Hillary because I don't think sh (1+ / 0-)

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      she deserves the bad rap she gets.  She is probably a great person and would be a great leader, but the people around her--like Bill and his handlers are icky!

    •  Yup (4+ / 0-)

      It may not be fair... but the hatred for hillary is real.. and we ignore it at our own peril

  •  A perfect story ... (1+ / 0-)

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    I've heard so many like it.

    Think of a United States where we aren't so polarized.

    What a dream. One that can happen.

    John McCain is so (Ned) Divine!!

    by Glinda on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 04:16:45 AM PDT

  •  HI, mom! Welcome abored! (1+ / 0-)

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    67% know many or almost everyone who refuses to vote for Hillary over Obama. wow. I repeat, wow.

    You will find many others moving to Barack's column, and away from the GOP.

    What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

    by agnostic on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 04:28:29 AM PDT

  •  Add her to the tally of people we get w/Obama. (0+ / 0-)

    We simply draw more Independents and Republicans with Obama against McCain than we do with Clinton against McCain. The sooner we as a party use this to our advantage instead of fighting it (or angrily writing people off as Clinton haters), the sooner we get back into the White House.

    Give them a chance to vote for a Democrat, and they might join the party for good. I've always believed inside most Republicans is a Democrat struggling to get out--especially with people like Bush becoming emblematic of everything the R party stands for today.

    a gallon of blood for a gallon of oil!

    by haruki on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 04:35:25 AM PDT

  •  I was up late and listening to the radio... (2+ / 0-)

    I live on top of a mountain in southern california, and I get far away radio stations at night. I don't always get the same distant signals.

    I heard some early morning show from San Francisco , I think it was KGO am radio. It was non stop Obama talk, all kinds of people were calling in to heep praise on him.

    I tuned in to NPR, it was non stop Obama "Sweep" talk. And they talked about McCains trouble with conservatives.

    I tuned in to KFI am to hear what Rush had to say about McCain. Rush was going crazy talking about not voting for president this year, or voting for Ron Paul, or voting for Lieberman/McCain and all kinds of weird things. He was talking about the party splitting, he was talking about loosing their way, he was talking about not having a conservative to vote for. He was so so hyper and crazy, I don't know if he's popping uppers or if he is naturally high. Naturally his callers were talking about not trusting the Clintons, and like your mother they were not excited about McCain. Rush talked about the growing Obama mania almost as much as he talked about how McCain and Kristol are idiots. Nobody really said a bad thing about Obama besides the usual "What does he stand for?" line.

    Then I tuned in another news/talk channel with a zany morning guy, and they were talking about Obama's momentum there too,

    Private Property is the Curse. Those that Buy and Sell Land, and are landlords, have got it either by Oppression, Murder, or Theft

    by pacific ocean park on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 04:36:42 AM PDT

  •  Republicans in play (1+ / 0-)

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    I know a lot of independents and Republicans who voted for Bush twice and they all like Obama and are disgusted with Bush and the state of the country. These people are not really partisans, many on paper are closer to the Democrats policy positions but have been influenced by 9/11, Fox and talk radio and bought into the Republican narrative. That narrative is now unraveling and they are seeing the emperor has no clothes.

    If it was McCain - Clinton, McCain would get close to 100% of their votes. Obama however would take most of the independents and a decent chunk of the Republicans and it's still only February.

  •  Nebraska farmers for Obama (1+ / 0-)

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    My parents, lifelong Republicans, not only support Obama, but caucused for him in rural Nebraska this Saturday.  Dad told me they were swung by two issues - ending the war (for fiscal reasons more than anything else) and Obama's E-85 tax credit.

    We are the ones we've been waiting for

    by brozek on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 05:21:03 AM PDT

  •  Hope (0+ / 0-)

    When people tell me they are Republicans, I tell them that is OK because it is curable.

    My mother, 84, voted THREE times for Richard Nixon to be President.  When she became a public school teacher and married a lifelong Democrat, she realized the error of her ways.

    Last Tuesday, she voted for Obama.  Living in Peoria, this was her third vote for him.

    Republicanism tends to be inherited, but it is curable.

    Wer kämpft, kann verlieren. Wer nicht kämpft, hat schon verloren. Bertolt Brecht

    by MoDem on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 05:22:36 AM PDT

  •  I love my Mother (0+ / 0-)

    and I'm glad that she has not forced me to have THAT conversation with her. The worst thing she's ever done politically was to vote for John Anderson in 1980. One of the few things she still needs to be convinced of is that it is morally wrong to shop at Wal-Mart. I consider myself very lucky.
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    Hi, Mom. ;)

    Let's go back to E Pluribus Unum

    by hazzcon on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 05:24:34 AM PDT

  •  My mother and brother (0+ / 0-)

    are in the same boat.  They will NEVER vote for Hillary, but would vote for Obama over McCain.

    John McCain the last member of the Keating five.

    by AppleP on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 05:48:10 AM PDT

  •  There are some young puppies around here. (0+ / 0-)

    I'm older than Jaiwithani's mother.  Except, I'm a yellow dog Democrat.

    To say my fate is not tied to your fate is like saying, "Your end of the boat is sinking."--Hugh Downs

    by Dar Nirron on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 05:54:40 AM PDT

  •  Katrina (0+ / 0-)

    We should be reminding people over and over again about that and the need to make it right. I am convinced that it was a watershed moment in the political lives of millions of Americans -- when they saw what neglect by government and wasting money on pointless wars really does to the country.

    Note also that Bush was with McCain while he should have been in New Orleans.

    We have only just begun and none too soon.

    by global citizen on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 06:09:10 AM PDT

    •  I'm with you (1+ / 0-)

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      about the "watershed moment." So many Republicans are just fed up with their party becoming a theocratic, incompetent bunch of crooks and hypocrites-I didn't think I would live to see it but I'm starting to believe it's real. This could be a huge turning point.

  •  I'll Vote for Obama or Clinton... (0+ / 0-)

    ...neither one would put a Scalia or Alito on the SCOTUS.

    Support the Netroots Candidates! A VETO-PROOF majority in 2008!!!

    by InquisitiveRaven on Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 06:13:34 AM PDT

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