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Barack Obama: The right message at the right time

Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 01:58:16 PM PDT

I first got actively engaged in the political process during the last presidential election. Although I have followed politics on the national level since I was 9 years old (I started paying attention during the 1995 budget showdown), it wasn't until I arrived on my university's campus in the fall of 2004 that I became politically active beyond being informed. The first time I went canvassing was in October of 2004, heading out to the suburbs of Philadelphia to walk the streets for the Kerry/Edwards ticket.

While it wasn't a particularly notable canvassing session, I do remember what one person derisively told me from his porch. "Kerry's going to lose, and you're going to be back here in four years talking to me about Hillary," he said.

But that was a long time ago. That was then; this is now.

Today is my 22nd birthday, so relatively speaking, I haven't had the opportunity to be as engaged in politics as many of you have been. Nevertheless, over the past 4 years, I've witnessed a remarkable transformation in what the Democratic Party has come to stand for. When I canvassed for Kerry, it was much more about getting George W. Bush out of office than it was for electing John Kerry because he was a transformational figure who could reform a moribund political party. That's not to put the good senator down - I came to greatly admire him as that election progressed - but his campaign was less about what he would do as president than what we would be stopping by removing Bush from the White House. In canvassing and phonebanking for Kerry/Edwards throughout the fall of 2004, this came to be my problem: fashioning a coherent statement for why people should have voted for him.

Since then, that hasn't been the case. In 2006, I volunteered my time to Ned Lamont's campaign during the hotly contested CT-Sen primary and to Patrick Murphy, who was (at the time) a political neophyte running for office against a Republican incumbent in Pennsylvania's 8th Congressional District. Both of them had a clear message that made it very easy to campaign for them: for Lamont, the focus was directly on Joe Lieberman's unwavering hawkishness on foreign policy. With Murphy, currently the only elected official to Congress who has served in the current debacle in Iraq, the message was again on getting us out of Iraq, along with focus on ethics and corruption. Both won those respective contests (although Lamont later lost the general election to Lieberman) because they had clearly-defined messages that resonated with their constituencies.

In the Democratic primary presidential, we face a choice. Despite the arguments that may be made in the traditional media or in the blogosphere, there is no doubt that our two remaining candidates - Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama - are eminently qualified to be president. Similarly, there is no question that either one of them will be markedly better on every scale than John McCain or Mitt Romney, the two remaining Republicans with a realistic shot at their party's nomination.

But that doesn't mean that our choices are equally good. In fact, each campaign has attempted to campaign on the platform of 'change', but only one candidate can truly claim that mantle: Barack Obama.

No matter how much Hillary Clinton talks about being a 'change agent' for 35 years, it rings hollow. The nomination of Clinton to the top of the Democratic ticket is a step backwards to the 1990s for the party. She chaired the 'American Dream Initiative', a milquetoast pamphlet of incremental domestic policy changes outlined by the Democratic Leadership Council (I reviewed it back in August 2006). She has yet to sponsor any noticeable legislation during her tenure as an elected official. Furthermore, the use of 'change' in her campaign verbiage is largely a result of Obama's victory in Iowa. It's reflective of the fact that her campaign has constantly been shifting its message - a trademark of poll-testing strategy by her chief strategist, Mark Penn. In the end, it's difficult for Clinton to stand out for much of anything. Her signature issue - health care - is one that she claims an advantage to, even though her secretive effort crashed and burned despite a favorable political environment in the first 2 years of Bill Clinton's administration.

Already during this campaign, her campaign has done a great deal of damage to their historically good relationship with African-Americans, a vital component of a potential governing Democratic majority. Furthermore, the 'scorched earth' strategy that was employed against Obama during the Nevada caucuses and the South Carolina primary revealed that the Clinton campaign would use any and all tactics available to tear down a fellow Democrat if it would benefit her candidacy. While her supporters may claim that it's part of the 'vetting' process that Obama may endure if he becomes the nominee, it is a disingenuous way of doing such an examination.

In opposition to a campaign that is operating using old rhetoric and had used old, underhanded tactics (and may still be doing so via robocalls), Barack Obama is running a truly revolutionary campaign. It's true that his policies don't stray much from mainstream liberalism, but it's his message that is different: don't settle for less, but shoot for the stars. Furthermore, in a partisan primary, he is running on a message of conciliation between the stark divide that has enveloped much of this country since Bill Clinton became president. It's not a message that may resonate with the hardcore Democratic grassroots base, but it has connected with many voters who would previously not have participated in the primary process.

It shows - whether it's the fact that Obama is raising historic amounts of money through historic amounts of donors (now somewhere over 650,000), or if it's people being inspired from around the nation to work or volunteer for his campaign. I spent a week in New Hampshire before the primary helping out, and I met people from near and far - from New York and Massachusetts to as far away as Georgia, Texas, and Washington - to give their time and their energy to making a difference. The people who are a part of his campaign are from all across the spectrum in terms of ethnicity, race, age, geographic area - and it bears out not only from the volunteers and staffers, but at these huge rallies that have been happening across the country. From the reddest of red states (Idaho) to the purple states (Missouri), to states of the bluest hue (California), he has at least piqued the interest of, if not energized, tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of people across the nation.

And it is because he is a change from the Democratic Party of the past. He will say what may not be popular to everyone - whether it's disabusing the notion that immigrants are taking away jobs, or it's telling Detroit that they have to fix their crumbling infrastructure to produce more energy-efficient cars - but what is right. He did it with Iraq back in 2002, and he's continued to do that since. It may not satisfy the deeply partisan nature of a great deal of us that he doesn't use more aggressive language, but that is not what Barack Obama is selling to us. It's not just the notion that we have to defeat the other side to institute change. It's that we can coax the other side to make that change happen with us.

In December 2006, I wrote:

I think that for many youth, it won't necessarily be the definitive record of the past 2-4 years of legislation under Obama's belt (2 of which were in the Senate minority). Instead, it will be the potential that the senator brings to the table that will inspire many. When RFK ran for president, he had only been a senator for 4 years. But it was the possibility of what could be done, the hope that he brought out in Americans back in 1968 - it was that passion that drove his campaign. For many of my peers, it's the same passion that exists now for Barack Obama. To us, he represents the best of the next generation of America.

Indeed, this has been borne out. He has had the capacity to inspire a movement and to bring a sense of hope to a political process that has decayed into crusted cynicism since RFK left us almost 40 years ago. Obama's message, crystallized into three simple words - "Yes, we can" - emphasizes the positive message of change that his campaign has embodied.

Yes, we can proudly support progressive policies that make people's lives better.

Yes, we can boldly take a step towards the future instead of a timid step back to the past.

Yes, we can all be proud to say we live in the United States of America again.

This is the right message for the right time, and Barack Obama is our messenger.

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  •  I can't get past 22. I hate you. Happy B'Day. (12+ / 0-)

    The rest of your diary is meaningless.

    Rec'd anyway.  But I still hate you.

    ;-)

    I promised my family they won't see me dragged from my home by men in black, dangling off ropes from helicopters. www.thejoshuablog.com

    by Junglered1 on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 02:09:23 PM PDT

    •  I'm 23! (8+ / 0-)

      I think Daily Kos is going to suffer an interesting period over the next year, as a new Democratic wing emerges: the youth voter. They're already here on the internet, they just haven't found a site that lets them speak their mind. I'm pretty confident enough will end up here that you ol' timers are going to have a difficult time adjusting, if you haven't already.

      For one, the reluctance to TR...won't work :P

      Do we participate in a politics of cynicism or a politics of hope?

      by Mardish on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 02:13:23 PM PDT

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      •  We young'uns are taking over. (8+ / 0-)

        I'm 24, and I'm here to stay.

        I think our whole generation is just starting to see exactly how relevant we are, politically.  I had voted in previous elections, but this is the first time I've really felt the kind of excitement that I do now.  

        We've got two candidates that are (by and large, not universally) bringing out the best in everyone in this party, on this side of the ballot.  We're part of an un-pollable mass of primary-goers (with our reliance on cellphone technology) and we've been showing up in record numbers.

        Viva la youth!  Viva la revolucion!  

        Not that we want to completely push out the old farts.  We just want to show them that they aren't the only game in town anymore.  :p

        Obama/Clinton '08; Because having two people I would happily vote for on the ticket would just be too much to ask.

        by Capt America on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 02:41:16 PM PDT

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      •  Old timers!?!?!?! I hate you too. ;-0 (6+ / 0-)

        I'm only 43 damn it.  

        and believe me, I have the mentality of a teenager.  I even still get allowance.

        LOL!

        I promised my family they won't see me dragged from my home by men in black, dangling off ropes from helicopters. www.thejoshuablog.com

        by Junglered1 on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 02:48:42 PM PDT

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      •  Don't count us "old-timers" out quite yet! (2+ / 0-)

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        At least not as long as we are phone-banking, making yard signs, knocking on doors, and - not least - providing a good chunk of those individual donations our candidates thrive on.

        (Sort of like my kids dismissing us as out-dated before we finish paying for their college. Heh.)

        P.S. - I hope the TR comment was snark.   ;)

        The truth always matters.

        by texasmom on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 03:26:59 PM PDT

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        •  Heh, it wasn't... (0+ / 0-)

          Kids my age will come with their associated baggage :/ They will have to be dealt with, and I really don't think the current TR system will be able to handle it, because if trolls organize, it would take very little effort to game the TR system and keep offensive posts unhidden.

          WARNING, THIS LINK IS OFFENSIVE. This is an example of trolls who organized.

          Do we participate in a politics of cynicism or a politics of hope?

          by Mardish on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 04:42:38 PM PDT

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          •  I'm not too easily offended (0+ / 0-)

            after years with 19 & 22 yr.old sons - and a host of rowdy friends.  However, trying to take over DK for a virtual farting contest wouldn't exactly further the goal of electing Democrats.

            Like our party, that would likely cause a schism.  

            On the other hand, we have a lot to gain from one another.  Those of us who have been burned many times in political participation are overjoyed to catch the fever of those guided by hope and big dreams.  Those who may sometimes be overwhelmed by enthusiasm will (I hope) learn the value of thoughtful discussion and listening to all sides of an issue.  

            That is, after all, the combination we most want from our candidates.  Peace.

            The truth always matters.

            by texasmom on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 05:22:45 PM PDT

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      •  Old Timer (2+ / 0-)

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        Well I'm old enough to be your father and I have one thing to tell you:

        YOU GO!

        Never accept no for an answer. Keep on Fighting! Live your ideals. And if us old farts don't like it, tell us to f*** well off.

        As for your sig, to hell with cynicism, let's nail the b*****ds. Tomorrow if possible.

        •  Clarification (2+ / 0-)

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          there was a poll done of Dkos users about a year ago asking for various demographics.  It came out that the largest age group here was in the 40-50 range, or maybe it was 45-55.

          Let me make one thing perfectly clear:  mid-to-late forties is not, repeat NOT, the definition of an old-timer or an old fart.  Those are terms more appropriate for someone who is decades older than that.

          I'll be back here to check in after I take my nap.

          •  LOL! (1+ / 0-)

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            I was just thinking that in only a few years, many of the 20-somethings with the time and passion for campaigning will get settled, start families and spend the next several years juggling finances, doctor dentist & ortho appts., soccer, Little League, football, basketball, ballet and band while trying to find enough time to read a book in less than a month.

            When that stage passes - they'll be OUR age!

            The truth always matters.

            by texasmom on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 05:45:09 PM PDT

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          •  That's us! (1+ / 0-)

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            The "kids" over at Kos!
            : )

            No longer a Grand Party. Just an Old one.

            by EeDan on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 06:08:07 PM PDT

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      •  I was 23 in 1992 (1+ / 0-)

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        and fell completely, head-over-heels in love with both Clintons during that campaign. They are why I'm a liberal Democrat today, and I will admire them forever. But don't let anyone ever piss on your enthusiasm, call you a Kool-Aid drinker, say you're smoking the Hopium, whatever -- that's exactly what I WAS at your age, for Team Clinton -- and damned if it didn't make me the committed, engaged, enthusiastic, hard-working, informed progressive that I am now. As long as it's for someone who deserves it -- and Obama does -- hope is good; excitement is good; big dreams and transformational goals are all good. And yes, I'm sure it isn't humanly possible for Obama to fulfill the exorbitant expectations on him -- neither Clinton has worked out exactly as those of us who were drinking their Kool-Aid back in the day wanted -- but he can be exceptional. And I think he will be exceptional. And I'm voting for him tomorrow.

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        by jamfan on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 05:13:00 PM PDT

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  •  Excellent... EXCELLENT diary! (11+ / 0-)

    You nailed every point, though if I may take the liberty to expand on an issue which I consider important:

    Furthermore, the 'scorched earth' strategy that was employed against Obama during the Nevada caucuses and the South Carolina primary revealed that the Clinton campaign would use any and all tactics available to tear down a fellow Democrat if it would benefit her candidacy. While her supporters may claim that it's part of the 'vetting' process that Obama may endure if he becomes the nominee, it is a disingenuous way of doing such an examination.

    In Nevada and South Carolina, Hillary (and Bill) ran a divisive strategy that aimed to split voters so she could eke out a classic Clinton 50%+1 strategy. This utterly failed her in South Carolina, which is why I believe she has given it up, however take a moment to imagine the consequences of that strategy.

    If her divisive strategy had worked, she was willing to sacrifice KEY BLOCS of the Democratic base, a party that is already weakened by spending too much time out of power and repetitive defeats at the hand of slanderous Republican campaigns, just to further her own victory.

    As a Democrat, how could she do such a thing? How can her supporters justify this? Are you really willing to wave goodbye to half the party, if it meant Clinton would win?

    Do we participate in a politics of cynicism or a politics of hope?

    by Mardish on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 02:10:15 PM PDT

  •  Terrific diary, sir, and happy birthday! (9+ / 0-)

    Tomorrow is the real "Super Bowl," and I'm psyched for it.  I'm in suburban Philly, so while I wish I could vote tomorrow, I can't wait to see how it plays out.  

    (Cautiously optimistic as an Obama supporter).

    "A point of view can be a dangerous luxury when substituted for insight and understanding."- Marshall McLuhan.

    by J R Hand on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 02:12:40 PM PDT

  •  The donor number is truly remarkable. (12+ / 0-)

    It shows - whether it's the fact that Obama is raising historic amounts of money through historic amounts of donors (now somewhere over 650,000), or if it's people being inspired from around the nation to work or volunteer for his campaign.


    650,000 donors
    .  If he wins the nomination, at some point we will see a diary on this site celebrating that number going over 1,000,000.  Good Lord.

  •  It's not 1992 again. Hillary has moved on; I (0+ / 0-)

    think Obama should do so as well.

  •  Congratulations (1+ / 0-)

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    on being able to be such a part of, so active and so knowledgable. It fires the belly.

  •  I don't want a messenger, I want action (0+ / 0-)

    Obama has lots of fine words. But will he deliver single-payer health care? Will he put into place a massive scientific program to combat global warming? Will he insure that gays have the same marriage rights as everyone else? Will he remove all our troops from Iraq immediately?

    I admire his fine words, but have no confidence that he will stand up instead of reach out when it it time to fight for policy. He'll be an adequate president, but I'll be spending the next four years screaming about the things he won't get done in fear of offending people.

    Yes, I support him over Hillary, but I don't see much getting done in the next four years. Nothing much is a vast improvement over Bush, of course, but forgive me if I can't get any enthusiasm up for someone who won't even talk about the things we need to get done. He refuses to go as far as we need to go, and we'll have to keep fighting to get things done when he refuses to step up to the plate.

    Don't you think John McCain looks tired?

    by MakeChessNotWar on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 02:35:06 PM PDT

  •  While getting the wood in, it's snowing hard (1+ / 0-)

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    again or still rather, I had a thought that i would appreciate you answering as a 'representative' of your generation.

    I believe that if Barack Obama wins the nomination that HIllary Clinton's supporters will hold their noses as is being described by McCain supporters.  I believe that being a Democrat will eventually be more important than being a partisan supporter.

    Do you think that Obama supporters would bite the bullet and vote for Clinton, would the sit it out, or would as i have heard (not here true) but on other call in shows, mainly Washington Journal on CSPAN, would either sit it out or vote for McCain.

    I am really interested in how you think.

    •  The Democratic activists and rank and file (5+ / 0-)

      supporting Obama will vote for Clinton in the GE, no problem.  The indies and moderate Republicans he attracts, however, may be a different question.  It will be up to Clinton to draw them in, and that's a more dubious prospect.

      Fortunately, I don't believe we're going to have that problem, because Obama will be nominated.  ;)

      •  It's unclear why anyone is asking (1+ / 0-)

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        these sorts of questions of Dems at this time.  The primaries are a curious time to demand party loyalty from candidate partisans.  I promise nothing.

        •  I was not asking for promises, read again. (0+ / 0-)

          I have that strange human characteristic, I am terminally curious, especially about the future.  I was asking whether others have thoughts about the way the general election will go.  I was not asking for loyalty, where on earth do you get that from?  It's absolutely as valid as people saying that people hate Hillary so much they won't vote for her under any circumstances in the general.  What's wrong with asking the  that question? especially since the diarist to whom it was adressed is a 'committed' Obama supporter.

          I never ask anyone to promise me anything, including the candidates.  I am never sure where the responsibility for clarity lies with in the blogosphere. The question or the answer?

          If you have no answer why bother to answer. If you don't care for the question, use the remote. i have a right to ask it?   One thing the technology shows is that people surely do not have the same comprehension of words.

    •  Will O supporters support Clinton? (1+ / 0-)

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      First thing, as an Obama supporter, I will vote for HRC proudly in the GE if it comes to it. She is a democrat and a Democrat. Can't say I've been thrilled with the past month of campaign, but when all is said and done, she and O are almost twins on the actual positions. I just happen to think the amazing O will do it better and more inclusively. And will lead us to a greater belief in ourselves and our democracy.

      But I know seriously progressive people for whom she is not an option. I argue with them: you can't not vote for the dem!! But they are adamant. No Hillary no way. Some would even rather vote for McCain. For these people the milk has curdled and they will not have another swallow. Personally, I don't entirely understand it; we're talking about some major differences here between ANY democratic platform and a rethug agenda. But there it is.

      So my hope resides with the man with the vision. But I fear for the nation if the new hope and the aspirations of the youth of the nation are dashed in the internecine warfare.

      In the meantime, since it is, after all, a primary, there is no reason at this point to not vote your conscience or to vote for vision. That is what primaries are for. The mischief of Nader was in the general, not the primary. Let's wait till the GE before we write off all those people who think they can't vote for Hillary. We will have plenty of time to convince them after the primaries.

    •  She may also lose a certain percentage (0+ / 0-)

      of Dems who just don't like the Clintons anymore and aren't that motivated to come out in November.

      (I still think she will pull it out in Nov--just with not nearly as big a margin as Obama.)

      Never give up! Never surrender!

      by oscarsmom on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 03:33:30 PM PDT

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  •  Well reasoned, well expressed diary (4+ / 0-)

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    Happy Birthday -- I'm voting Obama tmorrow in California, to help make your birthday wish come true.  I haven't yet contributed any money (I supported Edwards until just recently) but I will donate after tomorrow to keep the Obama train on track to reach 1,000,000 donors.  

  •  Happy birthday! (4+ / 0-)

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    You put many older Dems to shame with your insistence on prioritizing actual records over meme, spin, and nonfactual declarations.

    Wonderful diary.

  •  lets not get carried away folks (1+ / 0-)

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    I am an Obama supporter, but Kos most recent posting is right. I am to be honest freaking out right now. Obama, while he has kinda closed the gap with Hillary in the national polls, still is lagging behind her. And we all know what happened with pollsters in NH. they could very well be off again, exaggerating Obama's lead. I think we need to convince as many people about the good qualities Obama would bring to the Presidency. Obama has to win Cali delegate wise to even remain viable, the way I see it, because he aint getting NJ or NY, or even MA.

    Good luck Obama! and Happy B'day Psifi!

    "eeyeah Hi..eeyeah..Id like you to go ahead and support Obama" Bill Lumbergh-Office Space

    by girlyman on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 02:53:34 PM PDT

    •  But good things are happening in CT--at least (0+ / 0-)

      new Dems are signing up:

      Lines snaked outside voter registration offices around the state in the hours before Monday’s noon deadline for registration, capping a record-breaking registration season in which 34,400 new Connecticut voters signed up and more than 17,000 unaffiliated voters joined a party since Nov. 1. According to the secretary of state’s office, more than 13,000 of the formerly unaffiliated signed up as Democrats, while 4,000 became Republicans

      .

      This is good news for november!!!

      Link

    •  That's right -- overconfidence mobilizes backlash (0+ / 0-)

      The last part of Kos's post was the one I thought was most dead-on: you would think the campaign would have learned from New Hampshire...

      For the record, we still have more than enough petroleum to trigger runaway greenhouse effects before the stuff runs out for good.

      by Minerva on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 03:25:44 PM PDT

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  •  Happy B-Day, PsiFighter37 (3+ / 0-)

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    Your age as compared to your writing talents reminds me of a Tom Lehrer quote:

    "For example, when Mozart was my age, he'd been dead for 3 years".

    Keep up the great work, and GObama!

    John Kerry: "The rubber stamp Republicans have now become the Roadblock Republicans"

    by beachmom on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 02:53:38 PM PDT

    •  Another Tom Lehrer Classic (1+ / 0-)

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      "I'm not tempted to write a song about George W. Bush. I couldn't figure out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to satirise George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporise them." (Tom Lehrer)

  •  FWIW e-mails between me and my Mom start @bottom (0+ / 0-)

    I was with Dodd, and then Edwards until recently. Yeah she’s the establishment candidate....but the GOP has been spending the last 8 years making nice with her while planning in the background to run against her hard and dirty. They’ll attack anyone, but she draws the fire and not in a productive way. For all the talk about fighting back I really haven’t seen her do it effectively. We’ve got a good chance of seeing President McCain if she wins.

    You may be underestimating Obama and overestimating world leaders. I also think there is a fist under the his velvet glove that will help push something through on healthcare.

    ...but if she wins I’ll support her.

    CTMET

    From: CTMETs Mom
    Sent: Monday, February
    To:CTMET
    Subject: election

    I totally understand why you're voting the way you are. I thought you might be interested in an exchange I had with  <myfriend>. She was an early supporter of Obama (as I was) but we have now parted ways. Still....ain't it a great country?
    Mom

    ----- Forwarded Message ----
    From: CTMET's Mom
    To: CTMET's mom's friend
    Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2008 10:18:12 AM
    Subject: Re: Endorsement from the la times

    Well written but I simply do not agree with the conclusion. If you think the ugly rhetoric from the right will cease the minute the Clintons are out...I beg to differ. When I see Clinton & Obama together I can't help asking"where's the beef"? with Obama. I do not agree with his health care plan. That may be the hairsbreadth difference but I see it as important. I don't think he has the savvy to talk to world leaders. Community organizing and 2 years in the Senate is just not enough. Having said all that - I am so proud to be a democrat right now I'm practically busting my buttons. I truly would feel fortunate to vote for either one of them. Just look at the sorry ass choices the Republicans are offering...it must be embarrassing to have to vote for one of them. Of course, I don't agree with the platform for starters but look at the individuals. McCain - too old and too Bushie. Romney - remember Gumby? He could twist into any position you wanted? Then there's Huckabee - he doesn't believe in evolution. Again - how embarrassing. Can't wait for election day.

    CTMET's Mom

    It's the constitution, stupid

    by CTMET on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 02:54:39 PM PDT

  •  The Right Person. The Right Message And The Right (0+ / 0-)

    Crowd.

    Tell Your Friends This Super Tuesday To Barack The Vote!

    YES WE CAN

    Obama '08
    Dont Be Fooled. CHANGE Is Real And It Starts In YOU?

    by DFutureIsNow on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 03:10:38 PM PDT

  •  Barack Obama is raising my standards.. (2+ / 0-)

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    for what I will consider a good election this time around.

    After losing my cool a few minutes ago at the mere mention of the name Frank Luntz, it is finally clear to me what I want from this election.

    I want to defeat the Republicans with such overwhelming force, up and down the ballot, that it echoes throught history.  I want there to be a clear unambiguous rejection of the disastrous direction our country has taken.

    I want to spark the curiosity of school kids reading about this in their textbooks a century from now.  I want them to wonder what the fuss was all about.  I want them to wonder enough to take it upon themselves to understand it.

  •  Not to rain on anyone's parade (0+ / 0-)

    but does this article not bother anyone? The very same corporate outfits that brought us the foreclosure fiasco are pumping gargantuan amounts of money into "progressive" campaigns.

    This is most difficult to swallow in light of

    Yes, we can proudly support progressive policies that make people's lives better.

    Who's zooming who? I am not nearly as excited as many of you. It's a broken system.

    "Live right. Think left." Gregory Peck

    by bookwoman on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 03:16:28 PM PDT

    •  Psst! The Obama movement has eclipsed... (0+ / 0-)

      ...the progressive movement.

      And they're clearly not quite the same thing.

      Of course the progressive movement was going nowhere (one exhibit in my neck of the woods: the true progressive candidate in the Congressional primary to replace Marty Meehan got thoroughly crushed), so maybe this is not such a bad thing.

      Really, though: ever since Clinton, Obama, and Edwards killed off broader competition in the primary with their gargantuan fundraising, progressives have more or less been along for the ride -- with the exception of a few jabs delivered by John Edwards with things like his healthcare proposal that forced the others to follow.

      For the record, we still have more than enough petroleum to trigger runaway greenhouse effects before the stuff runs out for good.

      by Minerva on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 03:34:11 PM PDT

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  •  PsiFigher37 (0+ / 0-)

    As always, good diary.

    Here's hoping that the Democratic Party gets engaged, and stays engaged.

    Sidenote - I think this Writers Strike has helped politics.  

  •  On topic of message, interesting to see websites (0+ / 0-)

    Trying to make up my own mind, I just visited the websites of both Obama and Clinton for the first time -- and remain undecided, though the Clinton site did leave me with a palpable sense of resignation and dread.

    My gut reaction to Obama's site was that it creeped me out a bit -- in a display of ruthless marketing, it tries to suck up email addresses and phone numbers from the first page-hit.  The overall oeuvre of the site (with the penetrating blues, almost extreme simplicity, scripture-like quotations, and imperative language -- "Donate Now") also conveys, to my sensibilities, a creepy quasi-religious vibe  Seems a bit policy-light, too -- relatively much more about campaign events.  Overall, it seems to be much more about the man, the myth, and the movement - "Our Moment is Now!"

    Clinton's site, by contrast, is tediously complex with all kinds of things that come across as ham handed, off-key, or as unfunny inside jokes (e.g., "HillRaisers").  The usability is poor (e.g., on things like "find an event") and it doesn't appear to have been built in a way that can scale to the traffic it is apparently getting -- took forever to load.

    The experience, overall, reminds me of those things that make me nervous about Obama, and those things that make me wince about Clinton.

    On balance, though, edge to Obama...

    For the record, we still have more than enough petroleum to trigger runaway greenhouse effects before the stuff runs out for good.

    by Minerva on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 03:20:41 PM PDT

  •  Where is Obama's message on accountability? (0+ / 0-)

    I really want either him or Hillary to tell us they will peel back lid of the Bush admin an do a full review of all aspects of the Iraq war.

    Also, will they tell us the extent of domestic spying that is or has taken place?

    What about the formulation of the current energy policy?

    The extent of the political firings at justice.

    The lost emails.

    The OVP.

    We said we want change, and they gave us a handful.

    by MouseOfSuburbia on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 03:25:44 PM PDT

    •  Clinton is more likely to pursue vendetta... (1+ / 0-)

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      ...its probably true.  I'm sure lots of Clintonites would be looking for a little payback for slurs large (the efforts to blame Clinton for 9/11) and small (the false stories about stealing the "w"s from the keyboards on Whitehouse computers)...

      For the record, we still have more than enough petroleum to trigger runaway greenhouse effects before the stuff runs out for good.

      by Minerva on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 03:37:14 PM PDT

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  •  I guess I didn't get the message. (0+ / 0-)

    To me it looks exactly like Clinton's message in a nicer-looking package.

    The unity thing gets me though. I held out my hand to a dog once and got bit. The GOP is a mean dog. HMO's are mean dogs. Military contractors are mean dogs. You don't make friends with savage dogs; you muzzle them and put them on a leash. You don't let them play with your kids! So pardon me for not responding too enthusiastically to all this brotherly love stuff. We have domestic enemies whom we must defeat, as in beat into the dirt. I don't see a united country; I see a battleground between the haves and have-nots and anyone who thinks we will shake hands across a table and all be friends is either selling Kool-aid or is naive.

    I think I prefer someone who is more likely to kick our enemies in the nuts than to shake their hand.

    •  Wow. Just wow. (3+ / 0-)

      The unity thing gets me though.
      I held out my hand to a dog once and got bit.  
      You don't make friends with savage dogs;  
      you muzzle them and put them on a leash.
      You don't let them play with your kids!
      So pardon me for not responding too enthusiastically to all this brotherly love stuff.
      I don't see a united country; I
      ... and all be friends is either selling Kool-aid or is naive.

      Your post - your anger - your tired bitterness - your distrust of all things that are good -
      And I'm not talking about dstrusting bad things.
      I mean you seem to hate everything.
      Even the good.
      Your strange analogy about reaching out to a dog.
      And getting bit.
      You know most dogs are mans best friend and they're cute?
      Your dislike of unity.
      Not wanting to make just a little peace so we can get something done and move foward.
      I mean you hate it all.

      Sometimes I think the Clintons love the battle and the fight even though they lose the war for all of us.  
      Kicking nuts, hating and being hated, government shutdowns, bitter nasty partisanship.
      That's our future if she wins?
      And you know what?
      We've already been there.
      Since 1988 we've been in this quagmire of crap.
      It's so tiring.
      So much drama and bitterness I can't stand it anymore.
      I could not believe in my country when Bush Senior won because of the bullshit war he waged.
      Then Clinton comes and I'm like good.
      Then comes the the haters of all things Clinton and the intern and the I did have sex with that woman so for six years it was all about that and not making America a better place unless you count the passage of Nafta?
      Then comes 8 fucking horrible years of Hell under Bush 2.

      My god.
      And we have to shamble back to that dark place yet again?
      We can't move the hell forward?
      Toward the damn light?
      It would just be more drama. More hating.

      This is why I never thought she would run.
      I was like she knows what will happen.
      She knows it...she addressed it...and she just doesn't care.
      She says she can handle it.
      But we can't.
      I guess making a sacrifice doesn't come into play when you're running for President.

      Your post?
      Your post is a perfect example of why Obama has to win.
      We need hope. We need change. We need to believe again.
      Because without any of those, we're so damn fucked.
      I don't give a shit how man honey and lame that sounds.
      Your way, of kicking everyone in the balls?
      Just makes them kick us back even harder and then it becomes a hate fucking fest.

      Maybe that's why so many young people got involved.
      They've seen nothing but hate for so long.
      Deep seething hatred for the Clintons. eight long years of that.
      Deep seething hatred for the mofo's called the Bushes.
      eight long years of that.
      Shit...sixteen long years of them hating us. And us hating them.
      And you wonder why they buy into a message about hope and unity from a guy called Obama?
      I mean really.

      "Oh no...you changed your hair color? It's just so dark. You like it? And with your skin tone?" My Beloved Mom, December 25 2007, once again on notice.

      by Christin on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 05:11:13 PM PDT

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      •  wow, just wow. (1+ / 0-)

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        You could almost have me voting for McCain. Very well said Christin.

      •  There is no good future for this country (0+ / 0-)

        Its arrogance, its fat, lazy, self-congratulatory assumption that a smile and a wave will make all the bad things go away is ending. So, yes, I am tired and sick of the endless bullshit that dribbles - no pours - out of every orifice of this country. In every way that you like to name, the USA is not only fucked, it spends its time fucking everyone else on the planet. And you think that by electing a happy guy who thinks we will all be friends is going to turn night into day. You are either very young, in which case you can be forgiven, or you are very stupid, in which case it doesn't matter. The fact is that electing Jesus as president would not solve things. The problems - the dark awful problems - of the US are now beyond the power of elections to solve.

        Don't worry; I am not voting. If voting changed anything, it would be illegal.

  •  No Camera Angles Favor Hillary (0+ / 0-)

    I remember you well at the Chelsea motel you were famous, your heart was a legend

    by gregoryjames on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 04:41:28 PM PDT

  •  birthday greetings! (0+ / 0-)

    make a wish!

  •  Right on! (0+ / 0-)

    I've got to hand it to you, Psi. When I was your age, I was interested in tea, music, boys, and poetry. I paid no attention to politics. Thus your perspective is utterly new to me. I love that about getting older! anyway, thanks for being part of the new vanguard and for presenting Change, Hope, and Inspired Vision!

    Fired up! Ready to go!

  •  Why Obama Might Win (0+ / 0-)

    Again and again we have heard cries for substance, and seen the links that prove Barack Obama’s commitment to big progressive issues: the economy, health care, and the creep of federal fascism. Obama has stood on the right side of any complex issue you might wish to exhume.

    That leaves us with his rhetorical skills. People everywhere thrill to the voice of Obama.  His passion, intellect, and great oratory ability crystallize our concerns and hopes. That, my friends (to quote you know whom), readily swings voters across the nation. In spite of any long-ago story against him, he seems invincible in more than twenty-five key states. Over the long haul, exposure will hand him the nomination.

    In the great line of Swift, Newman, and Lincoln, Obama will win on rhetorical beauty and substance. It is up to us to be sure he is afforded several media platforms from which to speak. Wherever you are, be sure to record Obama and then spread his message of hope and freedom on your own web pages!  

  •  Dem unity is the message and working hard (0+ / 0-)

    for change. She campaigned until her voice is gone.

    Speeches about hope for change will not win.

    He will win 5 States tomorrow.

    Clinton: Obama Untested, Just Like Bush Was

    by gotalife on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 05:14:03 PM PDT

  •  Obama rally pics St. Louis Saturday night (2+ / 0-)

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    Phenomenal rally here in downtown St. Louis, around 20,000 people in attendance. Security was tight, I had to go through a complete