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The Polish are coming!

Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 10:10:04 PM PDT

The anti-immigration crowd is reaching new levels of hysteria.  It's not enough to scapegoat Mexicans; now the blame has expanded to ... the Polish!  I hadn't really intended to post anything tonight, but I'm feeling slightly indignant, though I know that buffoonery like this is pretty marginal stuff.  I'm Polish, you see, so I felt the urge to respond.

Get this crazy progression, from a Mitt Romney rally in the Chicago (!) suburb of DuPage:

When Norma Green, a 78-year-old real estate agent, resplendent in a red sweater, said she "couldn't put her finger" on why she didn't like McCain, her son, Ken Wisdom, interjected, "Oh, [that's] easy, Mom. It's amnesty, amnesty."

"Oh yes, amnesty," she said.

Wisdom, a 57-year-old union plumber, became emphatic: "It's not just Hispanics. It's Russians, Polish, Romanians, Pakistanis all coming. We are in a race to become a third world country. For a country not well liked in the world, people sure like to come here."

Yes, we pesky Eastern Europeans will take over this country yet, and reduce you all to pierogi-eating peasants!  

Oh, we've been at this a long time.  It all started back in the Revolutionary War, in which Polish-born Tadeusz Kosciuszko fought as a colonel, later to be promoted to brigadier general.  His plan was so brilliant, so devious, that it duped poor Thomas Jefferson into calling him "as pure a son of liberty as I have ever known."

He only appeared to be fighting for Ken Wisdom's right to speak like a cretin.

But it didn't stop there.  Hordes of Polish immigrants, like my own ancestors, worked their asses off in the steel mills because it was their dream to pull down the Republic and in its place build a third-world nation.  They endured discrimination and those long, hard hours because they knew that in the end their progeny would team up with the Russians and Romanians and Pakistanis and Mexicans to tear the American Dream asunder.  They just fought in World War II alongside Ken Wisdom's own ancestors to make it look like they gave a shit.

My own mother, who spoke Polish on the streets of Western Pennsylvania in her youth (after having been born near Chicago, of all places), was definitely part of the program.  You might think she became the first woman in her family to attend college, and then was among the first women at that college to receive a science degree, so that her family might have a better life, and so that her children would have many opportunities she never did.  Or that she went on to get her Ph.D. in education while working another job and somehow getting her kids through college so that she could go on and inspire thousands of young Americans to get turned on to science through her engaging approach to teaching.  Oh, so naïve.  She was clearly setting the table for further devious deeds by people like me.

You might think I was inspired by what she did and wanted to make good on the opportunities she and those that raised her had so painstakingly made available to me.  You might mistake my own Ph.D. and thus-far highly successful industrial career as an attempt to help build the future of my own family and this country.  Oh, but that's just what I want you to think.  Forget that I helped build a startup industrial biotech company into a publicly-traded entity that is helping to alleviate our reliance on fossil fuels.  That's all just a charade.  Smart people like Ken Wisdom can see it.  Why can't you?

In conclusion, Ken, you can roll that attitude into a little ball and shove it way, way up your xenophobic ass.  Srocze pies!

If the urge ever strikes you to denigrate somebody because of their ancestry, or what language they happen to speak, just think of Ken Wisdom.  Don't be an asshole like him.

Thank you, and have a lovely evening.

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  •  The English is... (9+ / 0-)

    ..."may a dog shit on you."  I hope I spelled it right!  If not, sorry, Nana!

  •  Except for Warsaw, Chicago has the most Poles (8+ / 0-)

    The Polish population in Chi town is the second largest in the world. I grew up and was educated in Chicago.  My background is Bohemian and Lithuanian.  Everyone in the US is either an immigrant or decended from immigrants.  Why can't we see that?  

    An idea is not responsible for who happens to be carrying it at the moment. It stands or falls on its own merits.

    by don mikulecky on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 10:19:45 PM PDT

    •  thanks to the Polish National Alliance (4+ / 0-)

      many a Pole immigrated to Chicago.  If not for them my grandparents would have likely stayed in New York where I would have been born and raised.  

    •  Labas! n/t (4+ / 0-)

      The United States of America--the only country in the world where being educated and cultured actually *lowers* your social and political standing.

      by LordMike on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 10:22:26 PM PDT

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    •  Ummm.... (0+ / 0-)

      Everyone in the US is either an immigrant or decended from immigrants.

      No, not everybody, you ignorant racist douchebag.

      •  Sorry (2+ / 0-)

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        Don is right, although you would have to go back many thousands of years to find the Völkerwanderung that brought the Mongols and allied races over the Berring Straits into Alaska and down through the Americas, where they settled and became the Native Americans and the Indios.

        Technically speaking, only Central Africa can claim that its inhabitants didn't wander in at some time in the last few million years...

        The Prince of Peace has been usurped by the God of War.

        by Spoc42 on Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 03:33:17 AM PDT

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        •  Wow.... (0+ / 0-)

          I wish I would have seen this earlier.

          How racist people on here are.

          I suggest you learn the difference between the English language words migrate and immigrate, or migrant/immigrant.  

          Nobody claims (except for the theocon morons) that Mongols didn't migrate to the Americas 40,000 years ago.

          The difference between the two words, and hence, the racism in the post I was replying to, is that there was nobody here when my ancestors first came across the Bering Strait.  

          Immigration, in the English language, means moving to a new country.  There were no countries here when my ancestors came.  

          Therefore, by dictionary definition, Native Americans are NOT immigrants, and everyone in the US is NOT descended from immigrants.  

          And, to say such is a racist pile of crap that implies, by English language definition, that there were "countries" here in the Americas before my ancestors came here, which of course is a point of view that the archaeological record would completely disagree with.

          So in conclusion:

          1.  Learn English.  
          1.  My ancestors had to.  
          1.  I had to.  
          1.  You should too.
          1.  Learn English.

          Oh, and most importantly:

          1.  Stop being a racist pig.  
        •  I wish I would have seen this earlier. (0+ / 0-)

          How racist people on here are.

          I suggest you learn the difference between the English language words migrate and immigrate, or migrant/immigrant.  

          Nobody claims (except for the theocon morons) that Mongols didn't migrate to the Americas 40,000 years ago.

          The difference between the two words, and hence, the racism in the post I was replying to, is that there was nobody here when my ancestors first came across the Bering Strait.  

          Immigration, in the English language, means moving to a new country.  There were no countries here when my ancestors came.  

          Therefore, by dictionary definition, Native Americans are NOT immigrants, and everyone in the US is NOT descended from immigrants.  

          And, to say such is a racist pile of crap that implies, by English language definition, that there were "countries" here in the Americas before my ancestors came here, which of course is a point of view that the archaeological record would completely disagree with.

          So in conclusion:

          1.  Learn English.  
          1.  My ancestors had to.  
          1.  I had to.  
          1.  You should too.
          1.  Learn English.

          Oh, and most importantly:

          1.  Stop being a racist pig.  
          •  Pot! (0+ / 0-)

            You know, I think this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black!

            Moreover, I was reacting to what seemed to me to be a particularly well-hidden racist streak -- yours.

            P.S. I have been speaking English for 50 years, and understand the difference between migration and immigration very well, since I have been living in Switzerland for over a quarter of a century.

            The Prince of Peace has been usurped by the God of War.

            by Spoc42 on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 05:29:59 AM PDT

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          •  BTW (0+ / 0-)

            If you are so hot on who was where first, what about the recent evidence that the southern states and South America were settled by negroes who had come across the Atlantic Ocean (probably driven there by storms)? They were wiped out some 9-10,000 years ago by the invaders from the north...

            The Prince of Peace has been usurped by the God of War.

            by Spoc42 on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 05:34:42 AM PDT

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      •  If you believe the Native Americans came across (0+ / 0-)

        Biering Strait, YES EVERYONE.  You are a bit too quick to jump to conclusions and condemn.  Try this There are many religions being ignored and thisA sad day in American history: Wounded Knee  If you are refering to the native American belief that the migration theory is a white man's myth, then it is only a matter of which you believe, not racism.  You are being a bit trollish.

        An idea is not responsible for who happens to be carrying it at the moment. It stands or falls on its own merits.

        by don mikulecky on Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 09:36:19 AM PDT

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        •  Ironic. His Wikopedia reference is racist. (0+ / 0-)

          It shows what jumping to conclusions does.

          An idea is not responsible for who happens to be carrying it at the moment. It stands or falls on its own merits.

          by don mikulecky on Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 09:38:11 AM PDT

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          •  Umm... (0+ / 0-)

            How the fuck is it racist?

            Btw, I'm a Native American (not full blooded).  My wife is also a Native American (half Choctaw, half Chickasaw).

            Given that, please explain to me how my reference is racist?  Do you think I know nothing about Native Americans?

            Oh, Mr. retired prof working for the center for biological complexity:

            I'm a UC educated physicist, who has also worked as a professional archaeologist studying Native Americans and my work can be found in both the national archives and the archives of the State of California, and I currently hold two fucking jobs being a fucking Physicist that fucking knows how to fucking speak the fucking English language.

            Given that, would you please explain to me how that wiki reference is racist? Better yet, could you please explain to my wife how it is racist?  We would both really love to hear what you have to say.  

            Especially, given the fact that you are a retired professor and are now a fellow at some random Virginia (so many world class schools in Virginia!) thingy for biological complexity.  Because THAT really makes you a fucking expert on the indigenous peoples of the Americas.

            Really, explain to me how you are at all qualified to discuss racism against Native Americans when your stupid professor ass doesn't know the difference between the English language words migrate and immigrate.

            Please reference my original blockquote, and the word contained in it:  immigrants.

            Native Americans were not immigrants.  They were migrants.  Get out your dictionary and learn the difference.

            Your statement was wrong, or it was blatantly racist.  Either way, apologize for your fucking ignorance, and apologize for saying my link was racist.

            Or, explain to me how my link was racist, but only after you have thoroughly studied the difference between the English words migrate and immigrate.

  •  pierogi-eating peasants (6+ / 0-)

    We should all be so lucky.  I miss my grandma's pierogi and she's not even Polish.

  •  You bet your dupa I'm Polish! (3+ / 0-)

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    Heh.  The GOP will make a big mistake if they start attacking the Poles.

    Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

    by johnny rotten on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 10:25:04 PM PDT

  •  a kto ci tak powiedział? (2+ / 0-)

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    skralyx, Zapp Branigan

    it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses | Buy M.I.A.'s Kala! (No, really. Please!)

    by Addison on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 10:26:08 PM PDT

  •  didn't we forget Poland ??? (0+ / 0-)

    and do they plan on bringing beer ???

    two questions that had to be asked ...

  •  Damn Poles! (2+ / 0-)

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    ...oh, wait. I married one.

    -8.00, -7.08

    It isn't easy being green.

    by emeraldmaiden on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 10:44:50 PM PDT

  •  dzien dobry (1+ / 0-)

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    skralyx

    just came back from 4 days in krakow last weekend... prettiest city in central europe.. also went to auschwitz.. terrifying experience.. bottom line poland rocks!

    Proud member of the Coalition of the Insignificant.

    by justforkix on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 10:50:30 PM PDT

  •  Could be worse (1+ / 0-)

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    Try living in England. The English are seriously xenophobic. A lady in my book club made some crack about the "arrogant Poles" taking over the country. Unfortunately I had a mouth full of tea which blew out my nose right before I went into a fit of hysterical laughter. So much for American etiquette.
    Lord I miss my old neighborhood full of Rusilowskis, Martinezes, Nguyens, and Shakils. Pity that Wisdom and his cohorts are being idiots. Wisdom...now that's a misnomer.

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