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My vote? It’s the revulsion, stupid

Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 05:57:04 PM PDT

Two weeks ago, I changed my voter registration from Independent to Democrat to facilitate voting in the California Primary.  I voted this morning and I’ve been wishing someone would ask me about it all day.  A business meeting this afternoon had me walking by the California Secretary of State’s office  and there were six satellite news trucks already setting up so that pundits could breathlessly report the ponderous progress of counting California's votes later tonight... but no one with a microphone seemed evident and no one probably wanted to talk to me anyway.

I fantasized about my 60 seconds of fame if some carefully coiffed talking head from one of the networks had happened to ask me about the election and my comments were sufficiently interesting to get into the news cycle.  It would never happen, but I can dream...

Talking head: ...and you sir, did you vote today?

Me: Yes.  I suspect it was one of the most significant votes of my life.

Talking head: May I ask whom you supported?

Me: The non-Republicans

Talking head: Er... ah, so... you are a Democrat?

Me: Not really.  I’m more of a disenfranchised moderate.  While I resonate with Progressives on many issues, I’m a moderate and a Libertarian.  I like to make sure we can afford the good things we want government to do.

Talking head: What inspired you to get off the fence and into the Democrats' camp for this election: the historic opportunity to vote for a woman or the unprecedented opportunity to vote for a "person of color"?

Me: I was inspired by shame and disgust of the last seven years.  We were  attacked by a handful of fanatics wielding box cutters who killed 3,000 people while the President of the United States read a children’s book to an elementary school class, we were mislead into a war of choice with a country uninvolved in the attack, taxes were cut in time of war resulting in incomprehensible deficits we will be paying off for the rest of my lifetime, the US Justice Department has been implicated in efforts to suppress voting by the opposition party, an Attorney General of the United States is on record as opining that Geneva Convention limitations on questioning prisoners are "quaint", the Vice President of the United States and his staff revealed the identify of a covert CIA operative for political purposes, the government has engaged in illegal spying on its citizens after deciding that the minimal constraints of the FISA law were too onerous, the right of habeus corpus has been suspended for hundreds of people, my country has subjected both US citizens and foreign nationals to torture, whisked them away to secret prisons, or held them in no-man’s land at Guantanamo Bay for years without benefit of legal representation.  To see my homeland and its guiding principles become so corrupted so quickly has been shocking and disgusting.  I AM voting for change... and

I would vote for an honest, non-Republican illegal immigrant atheist gay transvestite who was a bigamist involved in both a gay AND heterosexual marriage if I thought it might help get my country back on track

toward pursuing its basic principles: that people have inalienable rights and that government is supposed to serve and represent its people.

It’s not the economy, stupid.
It’s not gay marriage, stupid.
It’s not illegal immigration, stupid.
It’s not about sex, gender, race, or religion, stupid.

It’s about the revolting, corrupt, and dysfunctional government that has us fighting a war of choice against people who never attacked us and has decided that its prerogatives outweigh the rights of its people.  As a veteran and citizen I am deeply ashamed of my government's behavior.  I see my vote today as possibly the last peaceful opportunity to change the disgusting course our government has chosen.. and I sincerely hope that I am not alone and that my vote is counted.

Poll

Assume that the Dems win the White House in 2008 and gain control of the House and Senate. How likely is it that they will rebuke the prior administration by relinquishing the power that the Republicans usurped?

1%5 votes
12%47 votes
3%12 votes
23%88 votes
31%119 votes
14%57 votes
14%54 votes

| 382 votes | Vote | Results

Tags: election, libertarian, moderate, democrat, veteran, Rescued (all tags) :: Previous Tag Versions

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  •  Nice diary (1+ / 0-)

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    Leftcenterlibertarian

    I agree, both parties are pathetic. Ours is just less so.

    [Tags fixed to include commas].

    (-8.12, -7.33)
    "I am not a politician, I only suffer the consequences." Peter Tosh

    by AndrewMC on Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 06:00:40 PM PDT

  •  Tip Jar (6+ / 0-)

    While I'm pleased that my primary vote may actually affect the outcome for the first time in my life (I've been voting in California for 30 years), I regret that Kucinich dropped out of the race before I could support him.

    Dennis, we didn't agree on lots of stuff... but I liked your positions the best and we were most closely aligned on the important policies.

    I could support either candidate in the General, so I picked one.

    Impeachment, it's not just for blow jobs anymore

  •  Quite a fantasy... (1+ / 0-)

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    Leftcenterlibertarian

    You gave the talking head time to get her/his nails done. Heh.

  •  Tell me, because I can't remember.... (0+ / 0-)

    besides being on the wrong side in the Civil War and starting the Vietnam War, what evils have the Democrats wrought? The way I look at the Democratic party - it made a lot of mistakes in the past, and it learned from them. Whereas the Republicans started off on a high note (Abraham Lincoln) and have slunk greedily down the path of evil ever since.

    "The fix is in." Steely Dan "I.G.Y."

    by Eirik Raude on Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 06:08:13 PM PDT

    •  The Marines have landed on the shores (0+ / 0-)

      of Santo Domingo.

      "60 New Death Penalties" for such trivial offences as growing a field of hemp.

      Free Speech Zones.

      Running against Herb "WIRETAP" Kohl in 2012. $1/year. Cash preferred.
      Masel4Senate 1214 E. Mifflin, Madison, WI 53703

      by ben masel on Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 06:12:36 PM PDT

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    •  I'm not opposed to the principles of the Dems (0+ / 0-)

      I'm suspicious of their implementation.  I'm glad I don't live in Florida, for example... where the party decided my vote wouldn't count this year.

      The Dems have had their share of scandals, not too many lately because they don't have much power.

      I'm appalled that impeachment remains off the table...   I think that is deplorable.  The Constitution can't protect itself.

      I'm on the D team for now... I'm just being honest that it's a marriage of convenience.

      •  The good news is (0+ / 0-)

        that Dems have at least have to promise to clean things up to get elected.  And the Dem voters don't defend them when they screw up.

        I'm so glad I'm not a republican, they don't even promise to fix anything.  And if anyone catches them cheating they circle the wagons.  I'd be very annoyed if my party behaved like that.

        -7.50, -7.74 Republicans = Borrow and Squander

        by GMFORD on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:57:59 PM PDT

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      •  Are you serious? The Dems would never... (0+ / 0-)

        elect a P.O.S. like Bush. There is a huge difference between the parties. It's night and day.

        Republicans have only one real objective: FEED THE RICH. Everything else is just obfuscation.

        "The fix is in." Steely Dan "I.G.Y."

        by Eirik Raude on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 12:02:34 AM PDT

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    •  Way I see it... (1+ / 0-)

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      Leftcenterlibertarian

      ...they have done everything the Republicans have done, only as followers instead of leaders.

    •  Sins of Omission (1+ / 0-)

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      Leftcenterlibertarian

      All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. I don't know how good they are, but the Dems have done a whole bunch of nothing for the past 7 years.  See newest diary on the Rec List:

      They Are All Guilty

    •  Eisenhower got us into Viet Nam. (1+ / 0-)

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      Ynilp

      As I recall, he was a Republican. Democrats carried on the war, and escalated it. But the beginning was under a Republican president.

      What happens when Bush takes Viagra? he gets taller. Robin Williams

      by Demfem on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 09:29:31 PM PDT

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      •  Eisenhower advised AGAINST (1+ / 0-)

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        Ynilp

        helping the French maintain their hold on Vietnam at Dienbienphu.  He looked at the costs and advised against a land war in Asia.

        •  Yes, but he sent the advisors. (1+ / 0-)

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          Ynilp

          And that was the beginning of our involvement. The ironic thing is that the very thing he warned against, the military-industrial complex, became hugely powerful and rich because of that war.

          What happens when Bush takes Viagra? he gets taller. Robin Williams

          by Demfem on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 09:53:00 PM PDT

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          •  Hugely powerful, rich, and IN CHARGE. (0+ / 0-)

            Keep the sheep scared. Keep pumping money to the Industrial complex. If your raison d'etra (Iron Curtain) falls, just find a new one - (sp) (El Quiada).

            I'll never forget Casper Weinburger testifying before congress just before the collapse of Communism that if we didn't dramatically increase defense spending the Russians would be pouring across the boarder from Central America the following morning, just like in that stupid f@#$ing John Milius movie, "Red Dawn."

            AND IT WORKED! CONGRESS APPROVED THE INCREASE!

            Ever since America launched it's first nuclear armed sub in the '60s, there was no way the Soviet Union was going to attack us because there was no way they could stop us from bombing them back to the stone age. Those lying bastards.

            Only to be followed in the brand new 21st century by another set (same party) of lying bastards who invented a new set of villains in order to continue the transfer of wealth from the middle class to the rich.

            "The fix is in." Steely Dan "I.G.Y."

            by Eirik Raude on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 11:53:20 PM PDT

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  •  That's how I felt in 2004 (1+ / 0-)

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    Leftcenterlibertarian

    ...when we had our chance to vote against the government that did this. But now they are leaving under their own steam, and I have little confidence than any of the candidates running to replacement are going to put us back on track.

  •  ... (1+ / 0-)

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    Leftcenterlibertarian

    this libertarian crap is starting to make sense to me

  •  I stood in line at the local DFL caucus (1+ / 0-)

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    Leftcenterlibertarian

    Behind a very nice woman (we stood out in the cold quite a while before we could get in).

    She was an Obama supporter. I was an Edwards supporter, then decided if he was throwing in the towel, that Hillary was my choice. This has mostly to do with I think she has a better health care plan, plus I instinctively distrust people with some flash in the pan message of "hope" that doesn't really SAY anything. I want nuts and bolts policy plans to go on when I support a candidate. I instinctively distrust pretty speeches and grand messages. To me they're all crap. Show me the money, and show me the plan.

    Like P. J. O'Rourke used to say (as much as I got sick of him when he got so right wing in the runup to the Iraq War) I want the quiet, boring policy wonk as opposed to the stirring emotionally-manipulating candidate.

    Kennedyesque, MLK-esque, "rock star" all a big turnoff for me. That's not to say I won't support him in the general, however.

    Anyway, I got in a conversation with this woman. Told her about all the young programmers who are Libertarians in my programming shop who were going out to caucus tonight in the Republican caucus for Ron Paul. And if Ron Paul cannot be their candidate, they'll throw their support to Obama.

    Frankly, at this point, I distrust any candidate with "crossover" appeal - to paraphrase the late great Steve Gilliard, I don't want to "work" with Republicans, I want to CRUSH them. Grind them down in the dirt, and make them see the evil they've done to this country. Bipartisanship really IS date rape. Bleah.

    So anyway, we had a friendly little conversation, she was marvelling at the fact the "young Libertarians", which typically have always voted Republican, would cross over the line and vote for a Dem candidate, and I said "I think at this point the American people would vote for a CABBAGE in preference to what we've had for the last eight years." And she laughed and said the cabbage is smarter than W, at least knows how to PHOTOSYNTHESIZE.

    Note to Obama supporters - I am NOT comparing your candidate to a cabbage..........I think he's a fine man and a great candidate, and I'll vote for him if he gets the nomination. But Hill's still my girl, at this point.

    'Nuff said.

  •  Ah...my ideal candidate...if only... (3+ / 0-)

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    BlackSheep1, Native Light, Ynilp

    I would vote for an honest, non-Republican illegal immigrant atheist gay transvestite who was a bigamist involved in both a gay AND heterosexual marriage if I thought it might help get my country back on track.

    A left-wing nutjob liberal can dream, I guess... ;)

    Very nice diary, thanks for sharing.

    ~Doc~

    -7.88 -8,77 Just a wine sipping, brie eating, $6 coffee drinking, Prius driving, over educated, liberal, white, activist, male New Englander for Barack Obama.

    by EquationDoc on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 08:33:48 PM PDT

  •  Too late to rec ... (3+ / 0-)

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    Native Light, Granny Doc, Ynilp

    ... but thanks for the great interview.

    Two war crimes make 'the right', not 'a right'. Defeat the liar John McCain.

    by Yellow Canary on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 09:24:37 PM PDT

  •  Right on. (2+ / 0-)

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    Spoc42, Granny Doc

    Excellently said (only please, please, it's habeas corpus!). Glad this one was in the diary rescue.

    And most especially, your poll is the one big thing I want shouted in the faces of our candidates. I want to hear them promise that those unconstitutional and unconscionable powers the Bush administration has arrogated to itself will be the first thing to go, in the first hundred hours, and that the next four years will be spent in exposing what has been perpetrated under that cover, in our names, and in bringing all those involved to justice.

    Cry, the beloved country, these things are not yet at an end. - Alan Paton

    by rcbowman on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 11:15:48 PM PDT

  •  Good Job, Kid! (0+ / 0-)

    Sorry I didn't see this yesterday when I could still recommend it.

    Subtlety is the art of saying what you think and getting out of the way before it is understood.

    by Granny Doc on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 06:39:01 AM PDT

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