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To every Republican calling on Spitzer to resign.

Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 11:06:53 AM PDT

It was rough for many of us, being a Democrat yesterday.  We saw one of the more dynamic members of our party, NY governor Elliot Spitzer, revealed as someone who likes to frequent expensive prostitutes.

There have been a few diaries on the Recommended List here questioning the particulars of the case -- the political motives of all involved, the methods used to catch Spitzer, and so on.  I hope such work will continue.  As diarist eugene says, borrowing from Jane Hamsher at Firedoglake, these are the more important questions, ultimately.  If our justice system is an arm of political interests, that's a real danger to our democracy

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All stipulated.

It's my personal opinion that Spitzer should resign immediately.  A lot of others here agree; some think otherwise.  But I think Spitzer made the best case for himself resigning yesterday:

I do not believe that politics in the long run is about individuals. It is about ideas, the public good and doing what is best for the State of New York.

Exactly right.  Since he has proven himself to be an individual with such piss-poor judgement, and since his effectiveness will be hobbled, he needs to resign.   And as I write this there are reports that he'll be doing exactly that later today.

We'll see.  As I said, I hope he does.  I have a lot of sympathy for his family, but very little for him.  And he's now a liability in terms of getting some good work done in Albany.  He has to take himself out of the picture, because it's not about him. Politicians have a hard time understanding that, but hopefully this bucket of cold water will make Spitzer realize he has to go.

Now...

Republicans -- who have long loathed Spitzer -- had a fun day yesterday.  

And I'll spot them a good deal of schadenfreude here.  Not long ago Spitzer had a reputation comparable to another Elliot, Al Capone's storied nemesis Elliot Ness.   This was a sudden and massive fall from grace.

But the bloviating and celebration from the GOP / Wall St. types can be taken only so far, before the spotlight needs to be turned back on them, and ask why Republican David Vitter is still in the United States Senate.   In fact, let's start right now:

Dear Republicans calling for Elliot Spitzer's resignation,

Why is David Vitter still in the United States Senate?

If you don't think a man who has visited prostitutes is fit for public office, why is one of your own in the United States Senate?

And if you actually think David Vitter shouldn't be in the Senate, please direct us to where and when you have called publicly for his resignation.  It should have come on the very day that the story broke, if you're actually concerned about such things.

sincerely,

the citizens of the U.S.A.

We'll be waiting and watching.

Please use this diary to ask Republicans about their other morally unfit party brethren still in office, and ask when they'll be demanding their resignations.

Thank you.

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  •  I know hypocrisy is very stylish in the GOP (29+ / 0-)

    But every now and then, they need to be confronted with it.

    JOHN McCAIN = George W. Bush's 3rd term.

    by chumley on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 11:05:12 AM PDT

  •  Good points all around (4+ / 0-)

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    GreatDane, chumley, EvilPaula, Flippant

    They both should be bounced from their offices.

    "Unrestricted immigration is a dangerous thing -- look at what happened to the Iroquois." Garrison Keillor

    by SpiderStumbled22 on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 11:07:35 AM PDT

  •  DING DING DING! (7+ / 0-)

    They had their target before they had a crime.  They took him down as payback for jailing so many Wall Street crooks.

    John McCain will end Roe v. Wade if he's president.

    by Phoenix Woman on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 11:07:54 AM PDT

  •  Never forget... (6+ / 0-)

    ...IOKIYAR. I'm so angry right now I could just throw up.

    Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory, however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.

    by MBNYC on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 11:08:37 AM PDT

  •  Repubs Doing It So Dems Won't Have To (0+ / 0-)

    Democrats don't need that with a very divisive National Race right now.

    Learn to spot manuevering when you see it!

  •  Well said (3+ / 0-)

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    chumley, BachFan, tommymet

    I agree with everything you said except one thing.

    Its Eliot with one L. Other than that, spot on.

  •  we need a sex scandal scorecard (7+ / 0-)

    among recent Republicans:
    John "Vicki Iseman" McCain
    Rudy "Judith Nathan" Giuliani
    David "DC Madam" Vitter
    George "Jeff Gannon" Bush
    Mark "Pageboy" Foley
    Larry "Wide Stance" Craig

    among recent Dems:
    SF mayor Gavin Newsom
    Eliot Spitzer
    Bill Clinton

    anyone else keeping tabs?

    •  Keeping Score (0+ / 0-)

      Is counterproductive.  We Democrats will look better if we stop this comparison stuff and just insist that a wrong action is a wrong action, whether committed by a Democrat, a Republican, or an Independent.  He need to hold all officials equally accountable, or risk being seen as biased by all Americans.

      Three Just Words: "Join, Or Die." -Franklin, 1754; "Yes, We Can!" -Obama, 2008.

      by Soundpolitic on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 12:16:56 PM PDT

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      •  I don't disagree (0+ / 0-)

        but I think you are over-reading my post: the scorecard was meant by me as an impromptu, internal frame of reference to help us gain perspective and make sense of where we are, and not as a formal proposal for an official, external PR campaign on behalf of the Democratic party. I definitely agree that we need to take our lumps as well, not succumb to bad ethics or apologetics, and that Mr. Spitzer needs to admit his mistake and probably resign.

        By the way, I find this conflation (between an innocuous on-the-fly post on Daily Kos by a random blogger such as myself on the one hand, and an official, agreed-upon, unified, grand PR strategy for the party on the other) to be a recurring one on this website.

        Perhaps we should preface all our posts here by saying: "I do not intend the following to be construed as the final party platform position on the topic at hand, but rather as a suggestive point of reference for our consideration..."

  •  I think you are right (2+ / 0-)

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    chumley, MagisterLudi

    that Spitzer needs to go and we should continue to push on Senator Vitter and Craig.

    •  And just exactly who.... (0+ / 0-)

      in the White House was being visited by the gay callboy masquerading as a reporter?
      Remember?  Never an explanation for that one, was there.
      Hmmmmmmm?

      I think, therefore I am........................... Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose

      by Lilyvt on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 12:52:27 PM PDT

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  •  Republican indignation only goes so far (2+ / 0-)

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    chumley, EvilPaula

    There's not enough for fellow Republicans.

  •  I find it the bitterest irony (7+ / 0-)

    out there that republicans are threatening Spitzer with Articles of Impeachment.
        I feel like knocking on a republican's head and yelling, "Hello! Is anybody home? Hello! Hello!"
        What empty suits they really are. What moral morons. Not one of them will see the irony in this. George Bush-the man responsible for how many hundreds of thousands of lives? And not one republican in Washington will call for his impeachment.
        At the state level, they'll introduce the Articles of Impeachment against Spitzer so fast your head  will spin.
        What incredible hypocrites. When republicans look in a mirror what do they really see? They don't see themselves; that's for sure.

    "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from a religious conviction." --Blaise Pascal

    by lyvwyr101 on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 11:17:31 AM PDT

  •  Distinction (3+ / 0-)

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    gnat, chumley, sbdenmon

    There is no doubt that Republicans are going after Spitzer for political reasons.  And I'd like to stay at the beginning that I do think Vitter should have resigned.  However, there are two crucial distinctions between Vitter and Spitzer.

    Vitter is in the legislative branch, while Spitzer is an executive.  While there is hypocrisy on both counts, I believe that the hypocrisy is greater with an officer who is assigned the role of day-to-day execution of the law.

    Secondly, Spitzer appears to be in violation of the Mann Act, which would make him guilty of a federal crime.  I never heard anything about Vitter arranging for prostitutes to cross state lines.  Now someone may accuse me of saying this is simply a legal distinction without substance, but the law is the law.  If you don't think it should be, then work to change it.

  •  repug response (0+ / 0-)

    Did you actually thing any repug would show one iota of compassion or nonpolitical partisanship? These are not real people, they vote to send off young men and women to die in a senseless war started over oil by the bush neocons. They have no souls, I have given up writing letters or placing phone calls. Nothing will change these heathens. They exist on eating the flesh of the commone man. Nothing short of following Jagger's lament of a "Street fighting Man" will stop these bastards!!!  

  •  It looks a little like the Don Siegelman (1+ / 0-)

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    gnat

    affair..beside GOP hypocrisy..it looks like a "Rove set-up", why were they snooping in his bank records..., that used to be illegal

  •  Forgive me for posting this but... (1+ / 0-)

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    gnat

    By the way, for those wondering, Spitzer is a superdelegate, as is Paterson. Both have endorsed Clinton

    I found that on Huffington.  Does that mean that Spitzer's resignation would result in a loss of one super delegate, since Paterson already is one?

    "Unrestricted immigration is a dangerous thing -- look at what happened to the Iroquois." Garrison Keillor

    by SpiderStumbled22 on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 11:27:42 AM PDT

  •  Before you mention the Republicans at all... (3+ / 0-)

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    chumley, Soundpolitic, jodygirl

    ...it needs to be realized that it it paramount that we keep our own house clean.  Yes, there's going to be some political wrangling, and the Republicans are going to try to score some cheap political points.

    That doesn't matter.

    What matters is that we now know that Spitzer is corrupt.  And if he is corrupt, he needs to be gone, post haste.  We cannot protect someone like this when we harp on the Republicans to stop doing the same for their bad apples.  We should be calling loudly for Spitzer to step down and to relinquish any power he has within the party.  

    We can worry about the Vitters and the Craigs later.  First things first.  Let's clean our own house first and give then no latitude to say we're just as corrupt.

    •  I agree 100% that we need to keep our house clean (0+ / 0-)

      and mostly agree with everything you said.  The main battle is making our party free of corruption.

      But that's a never-ending battle.  And in the meantime, I think we can multitask enough to call out the Repubs on their sordid hypocrisy, again and again.

      Of course, if Spitzer stayed in office and everyone accepted it, we'd have no case against them.  so yes -- first task is getting rid of corruption among our own.

      JOHN McCAIN = George W. Bush's 3rd term.

      by chumley on Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 12:15:26 PM PDT

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