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Reverend Wright: Official Campaign Position

by rigso

Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:41:47 AM PDT

Senator Obama, the Kos community, Kos himself, myself, have rightly been upset over Geraldine Ferraro's racially insensitive comments.  Now it's Reverend Wright's turn:

Follow Me:

The things he says speak for themselves, plain ugly. In my opinion, more divisive than anything Ferraro said.  

Now here is the question, I've heard a few people claim it doesn't matter because Obama's camp has said:

"Senator Obama has said repeatedly that personal attacks such as this have no place in this campaign or our politics, whether they’re offered from a platform at a rally or the pulpit of a church," said Bill Burton, a campaign spokesman.

Or, Because, he has no official role in campaign...

BUT, he is no mere Reverand speaking from the pulpit, this from the Obama campaign's own press release:

CHARLESTON, S.C. –U.S. Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign today unveiled its African American Religious Leadership Committee at both the national and statewide levels.

Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr.*
Senior Pastor
Trinity United Church of Christ
Chicago, IL
Senator Barack Obama's Pastor

*Endorsements from religious leaders are extended in their personal capacity, and not on behalf of any house of worship, organization or denomination.

Dated Dec, 2007
(SEQUENCE IS MINE)

Now... where can you spot the problems?

A. He should resign from such committee, or if it is not active, the Campaign should imediately rebuke his position according to this press release.

B. His sermon was given in the house of worship, potentially breaking the law, and repealing Trinity United Church of Christ's tax exempt status.

Now some on here may question my motives to posting this story, as I am an HRC supporter.  But I post this to say that we should not stand for hypocrisy from either campaign, and that both campaigns can be held accountable for what they do with those officialy in in the campaign.

I'm not here trying to smear Obama's religion, or his Church. I'm here trying to apply one standard, and to put pressure on Obama to repudiate Wright's statements forcefully, as well as his position on campaign.  

This isn't only in the interest of the primary, the General Election is equally important to me, no matter who the candidate is.

to quote our great leader:

It's inexcusable, and whatever Ferraro Wright says from here on out will be on Clinton's Obama's head.

Strikes Mine ;)

UPDATE:
This is an aside from the racial standards of the campaign, but further controversial statements from Wright that feed into an already existing Obama meme, more reason why Obama should strongly repudiate Rev. Wright, IMHO:

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  •  I hope my intentions (18+ / 0-)

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    are clear, it's not a smear. It's an attempt at clarifying situations/pushing Obama to distance himself from Wright's and his often controversial statements, and also at applying the same standard when it comes to isses of race in this campaign...

    by rigso on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:42:57 AM PDT

    •  I think Wright could be Obama's sister soulja (12+ / 0-)

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      moment. Obama should repudiate Wright, remove him from his committee, talk about how he will NOT stand for intolerant comments, and ask McCain to do the same as well with Hagee's offensive comments about Catholics, Jews, and women.

      Want to learn more about Values-Based Living?

      by slinkerwink on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:45:01 AM PDT

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    •  Also, I wish Hillary had the opportunity (9+ / 0-)

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      to use Ferraro to denounce racism, and to support Obama, but she didn't do that.

      Want to learn more about Values-Based Living?

      by slinkerwink on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:45:38 AM PDT

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    •  No, you're lying. Don't fucking use my university (9+ / 0-)

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      to attack my candidate unless you're accurately citing their materials.

      Reverend Wright's name is under the following:

      A list of national and South Carolina ministers supporting Obama can be viewed by clicking the following links: South Carolina and national.

      *Endorsements from religious leaders are extended in their personal capacity, and not on behalf of any house of worship, organization or denomination.

      ###

      Contact:          Kevin Griffis   Amaya Smith

      NATIONAL
      Rev. Dr. Claude R. Alexander, Jr.
      Senior Pastor
      University Park Baptist Church
      Charlotte, NC

      Rev. Dr. Willie Barrow
      Co-founder, Rainbow PUSH Coalition

      Dr. Michael Battle
      President, Interdenominational Theological Center
      Atlanta, GA

      Bishop Dr. Arthur M. Brazier
      Senior Pastor
      Apostolic Church of God
      Chicago, IL

      The Rt. Rev. E. Lynn Brown
      Presiding Bishop, 2nd Episcopal District
      Christian Methodist Episcopal Church

      The Rev. Dr. Grainger Browning, Jr.
      Senior Pastor
      Ebenezer African Methodist Episcopal Church
      Ft. Washington, MD

      Dr. Iva E. Carruthers
      General Secretary
      Samuel DeWitt Proctor Conference

      Dean Lawrence Edward Carter
      Dean, Martin Luther King, Jr. International Chapel
      Morehouse College

      Dr. E.T. Caviness
      Greater Abyssinian Baptist Church
      Cleveland, Ohio

      Rev. Dr. Delman L. Coates
      Senior Pastor
      Mt. Ennon Baptist Church
      Clinton, MD

      Rev. Dr. Marcus D. Cosby
      Senior Pastor
      Wheeler Avenue Baptist Church
      Houston, TX

      The Rt. Rev. Philip Robert Cousin, Sr.
      Senior Bishop of the A.M.E. Church
      Presiding Bishop, Fourth Episcopal District
      African Methodist Episcopal Church

      Rev. Dr. Gerald Durley
      Senior Pastor
      Providence Missionary Baptist Church
      Atlanta, GA

      Pastor Michael Eaddy
      Senior Pastor
      People's Church of the Harvest Church of God in Christ
      Atlanta, Georgia

      Rev. Dr. Cynthia Hale
      Senior Pastor
      Ray of Hope Christian Church
      Atlanta, GA

      Rev. Dr. Freddie D. Haynes, III
      Senior Pastor
      Friendship-West Baptist Church
      Dallas, TX

      Dr. Obery M. Hendricks
      New York Theological Seminary

      Rev. Dr. Arthur L. Hilson
      Senior Pastor
      New Hope Baptist Church
      Portsmouth, NH

      Rev. Dr. John Hunter, Sr.
      Senior Pastor
      First African Methodist Episcopal Church
      Los Angeles, CA

      Rev. Dr. M.L. Jemison
      Former President, Progressive National Baptist
      Senior Pastor, St. John Missionary Baptist Church
      Oklahoma City, OK

      Rev. Dr. Charles Jenkins
      Senior Pastor
      Fellowship Missionary Baptist Church
      Chicago, IL

      Rev. Dr. Matthew Vaughn Johnson
      Senior Pastor
      Christian Fellowship Baptist Church
      Atlanta, GA

      The Rt. Rev. T. Larry Kirkland
      Presiding Bishop, 9th Episcopal District
      African Methodist Episcopal Church

      The Rev. Alvin Love
      President
      National Baptist General State Convention of Illinois

      Rev. Dr. Joseph E. Lowery
      Civil Rights Icon
      Founder, Former President, and Chair, Southern Christian Leadership
      Conference

      Bishop Cody V. Marshall
      Presiding Bishop, Illinois Northern District
      Church of God in Christ, Inc.

      The Rt. Rev. E.  Earl McCloud
      Office of Ecumenical & Urban Affairs
      African Methodist Episcopal Church

      The Rt. Rev. Vashti Murphy McKenzie
      Presiding Bishop, 13th Episcopal District
      African Methodist Episcopal Church

      Rev. Dr. Otis Moss, Jr.
      Senior Pastor
      Olivet Institutional Baptist Church

      Rev. Otis Moss, III
      Pastor
      Trinity United Church of Christ
      Chicago, IL

      Rev. Dr. Craig Oliver
      Senior Pastor
      Elizabeth Baptist Church
      Atlanta, GA

      Rev. Joel R. Peebles
      Jericho City of Praise
      Landover, MD

      Rev. Bertha Perkins
      Senior Pastor, New Fellowship Baptist Church
      Manchester, NH

      Rev. Dr. Paul H. Sadler
      Senior Pastor
      Mt. Zion Congregational Church
      Cleveland, OH

      Dr. Kenneth L. Samuel
      Senior Pastor
      Victory for the World Church
      Stone Mountain, GA

      Rev. Dr. Barbara Williams Skinner
      Co-founder and President
      Skinner Leadership Institute

      Rev. Dr. T. DeWitt Smith, Jr.
      President
      Progressive National Baptist Convention

      Rev. Dr. J. Alfred Smith
      Senior Pastor
      Allen Temple Baptist Church
      Oakland, CA

      Rev. Dr. E. Dewey Smith, Jr.
      Senior Pastor
      Greater Travelers Rest Baptist Church
      Atlanta, GA

      Rev. Dr. Susan K. Smith
      Senior Pastor
      Advent United Church of Christ
      Columbus, OH
      Rev. Edward L. Taylor
      Senior Pastor
      Emmanuel Baptist Church
      San Jose, CA

      Bishop Walter Scott Thomas
      Senior Pastor
      New Psalmist Baptist Church
      Baltimore, MD

      Rev. Dr. Frank A. Thomas
      Senior Pastor
      Mississippi Boulevard Christian Church
      Memphis, TN

      Rev. Dr. Robert Thompson
      Exeter Academy
      Exeter, NH

      Rev. Dr. Stephen John Thurston
      President
      National Baptist Convention of America

      Bishop Larry D. Trotter
      Senior Pastor
      Sweet Holy Spirit Church
      Chicago, IL

      Rev. Albert D. Tyson, III
      Senior Pastor
      St. Stephen A.M.E. Church
      Chicago, IL

      Rev. Dr. C.T. Vivian
      Civil Rights Icon

      Pastor Lance Watson
      Senior Pastor
      The St. Paul's Baptist Church
      Richmond, VA

      Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr.*
      Senior Pastor
      Trinity United Church of Christ
      Chicago, IL
      Senator Barack Obama's Pastor
       

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      by DemocraticLuntz on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:51:52 AM PDT

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      •  Boy, the Clinton/McCain camps have lots to read! (3+ / 0-)

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        by VA Breeze on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:54:00 AM PDT

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      •  hmmm (5+ / 0-)

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        U.S. Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign today unveiled its African American Religious Leadership Committee at both the national and statewide levels

        NATIONAL

        He is part of the national African American Religous leadership cmmittee, how am I lying?

        by rigso on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:54:01 AM PDT

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      •  Rev. Wright was Obama's pastor for 20 years (6+ / 0-)

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        The term "audacity of hope" is from a Wright sermon.  Obama originally planned on having Rev. Wright speak at the campaign kickoff in Springfield in 1/07.

        I always expected that there would be an attempt to make Rev. Wright into the Willie Horton of 2008.  While Wright, obviously, didn't rape or kill anyone, the "scary black man" meme will work now just as well as it worked 20 years ago.  When there's an AA candidate involved, and when the country has spent the past 7 years repeatedly having the pants scrared off of it, it may work even better.

        It's guilt by association, it's unfair, and it misrepresents who Obama is and what he stands for.  It's also, sadly, an issue that can prove to be seriously damaging to Obama's campaign.  I hope like hell that Axelrod prepared a contingency plan for this situation that he's dusting off right now.

        Some men see things as they are and ask why. I see things that never were and ask why not?

        by RFK Lives on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:58:41 AM PDT

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        •  I don't know about that. (0+ / 0-)

          It's been 20 years since the Scary Black Man meme was used, and we have made progress in racial relations since then. The best thing I know to do is to wean people off of the media as much as possible. They've shot their credibility since Judith Miller, that's for sure.

          Conservatism is Dead!

          by Eternal Hope on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 01:06:04 PM PDT

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        •  Did you listen (4+ / 0-)

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          to the one on the abc news website?
          He called the USA the U S of KKK A.

          WTF??

          I don't know about anyone else, but I damn sure ain't no klansman!!!

          A veteran is someone who, at one point in his/her life, wrote a blank check made payable to The USA for an amount of "up to and including my life." - unknown

          by AJsMom on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 01:22:53 PM PDT

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          •  Well, there is a lot of institutional racism. (1+ / 0-)

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            For instance, what about the disparate sentencing that is taking place all over the country? What about Blacks being many times more likely to get the death penalty than Whites are? What about felons not getting the right to vote after they have done their time, which disproportionately affects Blacks? Doesn't that bother you that all this is happening?

            Conservatism is Dead!

            by Eternal Hope on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 01:28:36 PM PDT

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            •  This wasn't about (1+ / 0-)

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              institutional raciscm.

              My post was about what he said about the USA.

              Your entire post is excusing what his pastor said.
              Racism is racism.

              Doesn't matter what the reason or excuses are for it.
              And MOST people recognize it when they see it.
              This is getting a lot of airplay and contrary to the defenders on this blog, this will NOT go over well in flyover country.

              Obama is for putting this kind of crap behind us or so I thought.
              I am offended by what he said and I view it as racism.
              Period.

              A veteran is someone who, at one point in his/her life, wrote a blank check made payable to The USA for an amount of "up to and including my life." - unknown

              by AJsMom on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 02:40:55 PM PDT

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              •  No, it is not. (0+ / 0-)

                It's OK to be angry at racism and the radical right-wing power structure that we are all fighting against. We are destroying ourselves thanks to our institutional racism. There is nothing wrong with saying that we are destroying ourselves or explaining how we are (military industrial complex, blowback, racism, driving while Black, etc). If we are not angry, then something is seriously wrong with us.

                Conservatism is Dead!

                by Eternal Hope on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 02:48:14 PM PDT

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                •  Eternal (0+ / 0-)

                  You can keep thinking it is just the right that is racist, but I am telling you, when this gets airplay, Mr. and Mrs. Middle America are damn sure not gonna like it!
                  I live in the midwest and those that say "God Damn America" are not going to be ignored.
                  This is Obama's spiritual advisor, he is a part of his campaign and he has been his pastor for 20 years.
                  Outside of this site, this will be looked at as racist, hate speech.
                  Middle of the road people, who are not racist, will not look kindly at their country being called the "U S KKKA".
                  And because of their long association, some will feel that this is how Obama looks at things.
                  Look at how it was treated when Michelle said that for the first time she was proud of America.

                  A veteran is someone who, at one point in his/her life, wrote a blank check made payable to The USA for an amount of "up to and including my life." - unknown

                  by AJsMom on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 04:42:31 PM PDT

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                  •  In light of her preacher's rhetoric is it any (1+ / 0-)

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                    wonder that she had never been proud of America in her adult life?  There are also several relatively disturbing quotes I've read from Senator Obama's first book, Dreams from My Father

                    "...certain whites could be excluded from the general category of our distrust"

                      "There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs," he wrote. "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."

                      He added: "To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."

                      "I had grown accustomed, everywhere, to suspicions between the races."

                      "There was something about him that made me wary," [he wrote regarding a potential employer] "A little too sure of himself, maybe. And white."

                    Bill had Bimbo eruptions ... Crazy John has Rambo eruptions

                    by kbman on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 10:16:59 PM PDT

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          •  The USA doesn't have to be (3+ / 0-)

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            it has long replaced lynching with incarceration which has made America the world's leading jailer by far.

            I'm mad as Gravel, and I'm not going to take it anymore!

            by ceti on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 01:58:08 PM PDT

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    •  Tipped from an Obama supporter (7+ / 0-)

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      ... for the rarity of a reasonable and well-argued comment coming from an HRC supporter.

      I realize that sounds like a backhanded compliment; it isn't intended as one. I have nothing against HRC supporters; I do object to illogical arguments, baseless smears, race-baiting (on both sides!), and flat denial of reality. I wish it weren't so hard to find comments and diaries from HRC supporters that avoided these things!

      John McCain is likeable enough, but he doesn't know Shiite from Shinola.

      by sab39 on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:53:07 AM PDT

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    •  Nonsense. (3+ / 0-)

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      People claiming impartiality like this when it's bullshit is getting old.

      Honestly, I don't care if it's a smear, but don't pretend it's anything but that.  People here aren't morons and, "to quote our great leader" gives you away. So quit insulting everyone's intelligence.

      by stormhit on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:57:49 AM PDT

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    •  No freakin' clue? (1+ / 0-)

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      His sermon was given in the house of worship, potentially breaking the law, and repealing Trinity United Church of Christ's tax exempt status.

      Do you have any basis for that?

      Did Wright come out and express support for or endorse a CANDIDATE?

      No?

      Then as suspected, you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about.

      The law prohibits partisan politics--supporting CANDIDATES--and permits churches to take stances on issues.  It's why a minister can fulminate all he wants against abortion, or decry any proposed legislation.

      Did Wright support a candidate from the pulpit or on church letterhead?  That's basically the test.

      If not, then all's well, and you're an idiot.

      We need not think alike to love alike -- Ferenc Dávid

      by ogre on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 12:06:15 PM PDT

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    •  Does Obama's plumber have a video too? (3+ / 0-)

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      How about his landscaper?  Or his dry cleaner?

      Take your shit back to Hillary is 44.  Bunch of fucking racists over there, you're even scaring away the Black Hillary supporters who can't believe how racist that place is.

      #  rigso Says:

      March 13th, 2008 at 12:46 pm

      I’ve emailed some media about Wright:

      here is the response from someone at an Atlanta newspaper:

      " Sure, be glad to. Just tell me what official campaign position this guy holds.

      You claim he has one. But every thing I find claims he does not.

      So I’d be interested in seeing you back up that claim. "

      in the original email I included the link to Obama’s press release naming Wright as part of comitee (www.gwu.edu/~action/2008/obama/obama120407pr.html) But I included again, hopefully his "be glad to" is honest. I know Georgia is gone, but the more media the better.

      "Spoken like a true smartass."

      by ChiGirl88 on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 12:09:14 PM PDT

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      •  yes i post there periodically (2+ / 1-)

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        I said this diary was about appying the same standards, and if one standard is going to be applied to Cliton Camp over Ferraro in the media, it damn well should be applied to Obama and wright. and anyone who says anything racist does not get my support, I'm 25% black BTW, but just today I got in an argument with a fellow HRC supporter who seemed angry at A.A for supporting Oabam, which i find ridiculous.

        by rigso on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 12:17:05 PM PDT

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      •  Hagee doesn't hold an official position either (0+ / 0-)

        look, I'm not happy about this. But we can't ignore it or hope it will go away or pretend that it's not going to be an issue. The Republicans are definitely going to use this in the fall, and Clinton's going to be using it momentarily.

        We can whine about it, or we can figure out what to do about it.

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        Abolish Superdelegates by 2012

        by Jaiwithani on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 12:19:19 PM PDT

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    •  Wright is wrong (0+ / 0-)

      by katz5 on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 12:13:37 PM PDT

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    •  I hope the Clintons disntance themselves (3+ / 0-)

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      from this Supreme asshat.

      Grandpa is mean and he smells funny.

      by MadAsHellMaddie on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 12:13:54 PM PDT

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    •  Here's another one, peddling this story to Fox (6+ / 0-)

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      You and everyone over there have no shame, peddling stories to Fox and Rush Limbaugh.  

      Why does Rigso still get recommended around here?  

      #  rigso Says:

      March 13th, 2008 at 1:46 pm

      I’ve been talking to john Moddy about this story, he is the Exec VP of News at Fox.

      "Just so you know, I’m the Exec VP of News here. So if things work out, you’d have a friend in a so-called high place on your side."

      He likes me for some reason, we were talking about being Journalism students! This is a GREAT contact for us guys, I can push stories on him, as he has asked me to be his eyes and ears!!!! "Would you be interested in being our eyes and ears on campus?"

      He says on Campus, but I’m sure he wont mind me pushing some campaign stories on him.

      "Spoken like a true smartass."

      by ChiGirl88 on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 12:19:54 PM PDT

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  •  He will (1+ / 0-)

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    probably make a much stronger statement about this than Hillary did about Ferraro.

    by mim5677 on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:44:48 AM PDT

    •  It's entirely clear to me... (4+ / 0-)

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      that this is the Clinton response to the charges of race baiting. Following eight mind exploding years of Bush refusing to acknowledge mistakes, apologizing or disciplining his cronies, HRC picks up the slack.  Rather than issue a strong repudiation of Ferraro, she gives a wink wink nudge nudge and then pulls the old carny trick of misdirection.  

      Same shit, different politician.  "Don't look at us.  Don't criticize the explicit racism.  Nope.  Hey!  Look over there!!!"

      I call BULLSHIT!  You may tell me that it's apple pie but it's still the same vile race baiting shit that they've been pulling since Bill in So. Carolina.  I'm just so sorry that good people fall for it.

      "We're all working for the Pharaoh" - Richard Thompson

      by mayan on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:59:02 AM PDT

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      •  Let's blame Hillary (2+ / 0-)

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        because we do it every time. Don't blame Wright for his sermons and words. Don't blame Obama for having a 20 year relationship with Wright. Don't blame Obama for making Wright his pastor and spiritual advisor. Don't blame Obama for attending Wright's church. Don't blame Obama for including Wright in his campaign. Don't blame ABC News for reporting it. Don't blame yourself for putting your head in the sand. Just blame Hillary. Yep, just blame Hillary. It's all Hillary's fault.

        by grlpatriot on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 01:52:03 PM PDT

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    •  When? Shall I hold my breath (2+ / 0-)

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      waiting for Obama to strongly denouce God Damn America and the mouth it came from?

      by Lying eyes on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 01:45:07 PM PDT

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  •  This Obama supporter agrees with you (7+ / 0-)

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    John McCain is likeable enough, but he doesn't know Shiite from Shinola.

    by sab39 on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:45:23 AM PDT

  •  Cut it out-already posted smear tactics (1+ / 0-)

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    Stay out of people's religion-or lack of..

    There is just as much horse sense as ever, but the horses have most of it. ~Author Unknown

    by VA Breeze on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:45:36 AM PDT

  •  I think tomorrow (17+ / 0-)

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    I'll write 500 diaries on the same topic.

    Workers of the world unite--back by popular demand.

    by Kab ibn al Ashraf on Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 11:45:56 AM PDT

  •  He can come out strong (6+ / 0-)

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