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DON'T you dare tell Obama what to do!!

Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 04:42:11 PM PDT

After getting my head handed to me by the Obama worshipers on this site for daring to propose a course of action for Obama to take. This is a mild example I left out the name calling ones

i think he knows what he is doing and that he is capable of making his own decisions.

I started to get a sense of why the Clinton folks had their ridiculous "Strike". I'm an Obama supporter (have been from the beginning) and the way I was attacked for proposing that he do something different was shocking - I love the DKos for its perspective and its a great place to test out ideas but this was new.

So to try and keep the following comments thread constructive I will preface the following statements with the fact that I am not sure the right approach - I am just positing the following to be discussed - a debate of the pro's and con's - maybe even have people read the comments before voting in the poll.

Ok so here goes - he types nervously - Rev Wright could end Obama. He needs to do a frontal assault on the right wing media by going on FOX News Sunday (FNS) with Chris Wallace, Go on Rush Limbaugh, Bill-O, the Wall Street Journal etc. BUT change the ground rules - do it on his terms. What do I mean (below the fold)

Go on FNS but for whole hour - 1 on 1 with Chris Wallace - no B-roll and have the hour broken down into three 20 min segments:

Part 1 on whatever Wallace wants to bring up (Rev. Wright, Tony Rezko etc.)
Part 2 International policy
Part 3 Domestic policy.
Hell do it twice back to back one weekend after the other so Wallace can follow up.

Do Bill'o but not in his studio - do it one on one for the full segment un-edited in front of a live audience.

Sit down with Rush Limbaugh for his whole 3 hour show.

Meet with reports from the Wall Street Journal for as long as they want or for several days in a row on different topics.

He just sat down on Friday with the Chicago papers and answered every question they had about Rezko it was a great move.

The most remarkable facet of Obama's 92-minute discussion was that, at the outset, he pledged to answer every question the three dozen Tribune journalists crammed into the room would put to him. And he did.
After the meeting, the Tribune stood by its endorsement of Obama noting:
When we endorsed Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination Jan. 27, we said we had formed our opinions of him during 12 years of scrutiny. We concluded that the professional judgment and personal decency with which he has managed himself and his ambition distinguish him.

Nothing Obama said in our editorial board room Friday diminishes that verdict.

I think he can win over alot of people by getting in front of them just like he did the Chicago paper. He will take some hits but they are going to go after him anyway.

This way he can show he is a new kind of candidate. He can focus on serious issue and frame the debate instead of getting caught up in the old gotcha, and pundit game they have going now. I also would be a good example of his I will talk with our enemy's foreign policy approach.

He needs to address this now - go on the offensive - change things up - one GREAT speech is not going to end the Rev Wright thing. It will sink him unless he does something drastic he might not win them over but at least he can stand up to them.

Fox News etc. represent real voters not all of whom are Republicans he needs to win these people over if he is going to win in November.

Ok ripe me to shreds - tell me why I'm crazy - go ahead I can take it.

UPDATE: To clarify this idea is not just how he should respond to the Rev Wright issue but rather how he should approach the next 7 1/2 months - take it to the enemy!

UPDATE 2: Some are saying this is a better General Election strategy - if you don't think we are already in the GE you are mistaken.

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Should Obama do a frontal assault on the right wing media?

13%11 votes
21%17 votes
8%7 votes
55%44 votes

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  •  Tip Jar (3+ / 0-)

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    I am Dyslexic, it is a battle (which I often lose) to write without error. Thanks in advance for putting up with my mistakes

    by jmorton on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 04:42:25 PM PDT

    •  crappy idea (0+ / 0-)

      John McCain - Like W. Only Older.

      Funny McCain Pics archive updated regularly

      by InsultComicDog on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 04:48:49 PM PDT

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    •  I don't think you're crazy. (1+ / 0-)

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      I just don't think it is a very good idea. He's getting some amazingly positive feedback from MSM and after listening to an NPR segment today, taped in PA, he's apparently earned the respect of quite a few Independent and Republican voters. If the rightwing media does not respect him, so be it.

      I think it's time to move on.

      Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn't mean you are wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar. Edward R. Murrow

      by Pager on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 04:50:28 PM PDT

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      •  I agree with you. (2+ / 0-)

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        Obama's audience is not watching FoxNews.

        "The answer is to end our reliance on carbon-based fuels." Al Gore, 7/17/08

        by TomP on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 05:07:26 PM PDT

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        •  What happened to the 50 state strategy? (0+ / 0-)

          I thought Obama was a new type of politician - not Red America or Blue America but the United States of America - if this is true then FoxNews is his audience - they just aren't friendly to him yet - if they get to know him it will be hard for them to paint him as anti-white or the angry black man.

          I am Dyslexic, it is a battle (which I often lose) to write without error. Thanks in advance for putting up with my mistakes

          by jmorton on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 05:10:30 PM PDT

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          •  FoxNews is not the 50 state (3+ / 0-)

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            strategy, in my view.

            While Obama maay practicce outreach to some Republicans where there are common issues, he is a Democrat because of his deep beliefs in social and economic justice.  Thus, FoxNews viewers really won't fit well, unless they are deprogammed first.

            "The answer is to end our reliance on carbon-based fuels." Al Gore, 7/17/08

            by TomP on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 05:13:02 PM PDT

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    •  In the GE this might make more sense (0+ / 0-)

      I can't see any reason for doing it now - none of these shows (IMO) have listeners/viewers who are likely potential Obama primary supporters.

      In the GE cycle, why not? I like the idea of taking the fight to the enemy's lair. I certainly think he has the stones to do it, and watching/listening to him go toe to toe with O'Reilly would be fun (but three hours of Limbaugh? convicted criminals aren't subjected to such treatment).

      "In the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope."

      by Pacific NW Mark on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 05:02:07 PM PDT

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  •  If Jesus himself were to come down from heaven... (4+ / 0-)

    ...and tell Americans to vote for Mr. Obama, my guess is that somewhere around 89% of Republicans would vote for John McCain.

    The point is that Obama has done enough.

    He will not change the minds of people who were just looking for one more reason to hate him.

    Stop paying attention to them.  Concentrate on the goal.

    Tis not all fishing to fish.

    by Izaak Walton on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 04:47:15 PM PDT

  •  I think what he did with the Trib was great. (1+ / 0-)

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    futurebird

    It's definitely the sort of format he might want to use again.

  •  spellcheck: strike (2+ / 0-)

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  •  The ROI on walking into the Fox den.. (0+ / 0-)

    is not worth it IMO.    

  •  How is the Kool-Aid tasting...??? (0+ / 0-)

    Obama/Whoever He Chooses '08 Winning Change for America and the Democratic Party

    by dvogel001 on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 04:59:02 PM PDT

    •  huh? (0+ / 0-)

      I'm guess I'm a little slow but I don't get your comment? Are you saying I drank the Kool-aid and if so how - are you saying people who think Obama is prefect drank it - what do you mean??

      I am Dyslexic, it is a battle (which I often lose) to write without error. Thanks in advance for putting up with my mistakes

      by jmorton on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 05:03:52 PM PDT

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      •  It sounds like you are saying... (0+ / 0-)

        that Barack Obama is perfect and can make no mistakes in his campaign?  That is how I read the diary...that I would have to disagree with...Although I will support him in the GE...enthusiastically

        Obama/Whoever He Chooses '08 Winning Change for America and the Democratic Party

        by dvogel001 on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 05:09:48 PM PDT

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        •  Thats what 65% of the reader think not me. (0+ / 0-)

          No my diary is about how I got attacked by the people who think that - I think he is good - I want him to be President but I think he has made POLITICAL mistakes.

          I am Dyslexic, it is a battle (which I often lose) to write without error. Thanks in advance for putting up with my mistakes

          by jmorton on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 05:12:20 PM PDT

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  •  I don't think this is a bad general election (2+ / 0-)

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    strategy. At the moment I think he is better served by being more visible on shows that people actually watch. I think he should go back on the fluff media shows, and I think he should give an interview to any reasonably fair media outlet above a certain viewership or circulation that wants one.

    However, in the general election, I don't think your idea's bad. The Fox and Limbaugh audience day after day are given a caricature of Obama, and for many of their viewers that's their only source of information. I think that if he went on those shows he'd shatter the whole caricature. I also suspect that while Fox would like to interview him, that Limbaugh wouldn't want him.

  •  OK, how about this: (1+ / 0-)

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    jmorton

    I just don't care what you think he should do.

    •  nice, constructive criticism is always appreciate (0+ / 0-)

      I am Dyslexic, it is a battle (which I often lose) to write without error. Thanks in advance for putting up with my mistakes

      by jmorton on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 05:13:45 PM PDT

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      •  If that's what you want... (0+ / 0-)

        ...then that's what you should ask for. But you didn't:

        Ok ripe me to shreds - tell me why I'm crazy - go ahead I can take it.

        So don't start whining if you don't get nice constructive criticism.

        •  I'm not whining about criticism, I asked for it. (0+ / 0-)

          I'm happy to hear it - but "I don't care what you think" is not criticism its childish

          If you think I'm wrong I'm happy to read why you think so - and if you want to call me an idiot in the process thats fine - but have some substance to your comments please.

          I am Dyslexic, it is a battle (which I often lose) to write without error. Thanks in advance for putting up with my mistakes

          by jmorton on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 05:30:42 PM PDT

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  •  Rush would not agree to this (0+ / 0-)

    he only does interviews with friends like dick cheney... and very infrequently.   He's got a big mouth but can't debate the issues on a substantive level.   Once in a while on his show an informed democrat will get through (by accident or whatever) and he'll just cut them off and respond with ad-hominems to distract from the point they made..  he's extremely insecure when it comes to debating... and Obama would destroy him.

    "To you, I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition." - Woody Allen

    by soros on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 05:35:20 PM PDT

  •  I voted "Hell No" (0+ / 0-)

    But you are not an idiot. I just disagree with you.

    Nancy Pelosi is nothing like MY Sicilian grandmother!

    by Anthony Segredo on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 05:36:58 PM PDT

    •  Why? I want to know (0+ / 0-)

      The thing I love about the Dkos is that I have post diary's here or comments and learned something - sometime people agree sometime they don't - so what did I miss - what am I getting wrong.

      I am Dyslexic, it is a battle (which I often lose) to write without error. Thanks in advance for putting up with my mistakes

      by jmorton on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 05:42:25 PM PDT

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  •  Excellent idea... (2+ / 0-)

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    He should do it now, before PA.

    Fox IS where all the "Reagan Democrats" are right now. Almost every senior I know (and trust me, I know tons) gets their info from Fox. He's got big mo right now coming off the Philly speech, a great chance to reintroduce himself to these folks. Now, early, before the general...

    Obama's got nothing to lose, and after watching the Philly speech I guarantee he will win over some Republicans and indies.

    Besides, it is not like Chris Wallace or BillO is going to outsmart him...

    Yellow dog Democrat from the blue state of Maine.

    by Subbacultcha on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 05:48:33 PM PDT

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