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On the Ground in the Philadelphia Suburbs: Day 1

Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 07:41:28 PM PDT

I grew up in the Philadelphia area and went to high school in Montgomery County, right outside the city. So I came up for the weekend to help the Obama campaign register new voters and help people who wanted to switch their registration to Democrat to vote in the primary.

Some background on the area: Montgomery County is an upper-income area with a large Jewish population, particularly in the part closest to Philadelphia. It used to be a Republican stronghold, and registered Republicans still outnumber registered Democrats, in part because most of the local government is still Republican. But Kerry carried the county by 12 points in 2004, and there are a lot of people who have voted Democrat for at least the last 2 presidential elections and voted for Rendell for governor both times but never changed their registration. So in addition to signing up new voters (most people in areas like this are already registered), one of the main objectives was to get these people to register as Democrats so they could vote for Obama in the primary.

Bottom line impression: the Wright "scandal" (I prefer to call it a character assassination) has definitely hurt Obama, but it hasn't killed him. He still has plenty of support, but it didn't feel like as much of an Obama stronghold as I thought it would be.

They sent me to a supermarket in Narberth, PA to do registration. This is a heavily Jewish area, and they picked that location for me because it has a large kosher section and I told them that I had gone to a Jewish high school and knew how to talk to people who were worried about whether Obama would be pro-Israel enough as president.

At first it was pretty discouraging. Several people gave me dirty looks and said things like "don't even talk to me." One man essentially called me a traitor to my religion and said that Obama was "no friend to us", and one woman said that she was a Democrat but might vote for McCain if Obama was the nominee, because she was disturbed about the Wright sermons and what Michelle Obama had said about being proud of her country.

Several people expressed doubts about Obama that I could kind of tell were related to Israel, even if they did not say it until I asked. I gave out sheets the Obama campaign had prepared detailing his positions on Israel, and told them that I was Jewish myself and would never support someone I did not trust to be supportive of Israel, but I trust Barack Obama. Hopefully that, plus the information I gave out will help to reassure people. I should have also pointed out that Jewish leaders in Chicago are very comfortable with Obama, and he had a lot of Jewish support when he ran for the Senate four years ago.

At first, the only people who seemed to be for Obama were the people who worked in the store, most of whom were African American. I got a few of them registered for the first time, so that felt good. But just about every white person I met at first seemed to have a negative impression of him, and I was pretty demoralized.

I went back to the headquarters after I ran out of registration forms. I called my mom and said "I think it's over. His support among rich white liberals seems to have collapsed, and they're one of his core constituencies. If he can't win white voters here he can't win them anywhere in the state." But she yelled at me for being defeatist, and I forced myself to go back out there and do some more registration. Somehow, the second round was a lot more encouraging. I met a lot more people (mostly white) who supported Obama or were leaning that way.

This is a highly educated, upper-income area, so most people were already registered, but several people asked to take forms home for their kids who had recently turned 18 or were in college and on spring break. I also got a lot of people who wanted to change their registration from Republican or independent to Democrat. I am not sure if they were all planning to vote for Obama, but I was decked out in Obama gear, so I would think most people who agreed to fill out forms for me were Obama supporters if they trusted me to handle their registration form (except for one woman who admitted she planned to vote for Clinton).

I met several enthusiastic supporters, including a couple who were already volunteering and a couple more who were willing to. Several people asked for yard signs or bumper stickers, which I asked them to sign up for, though I found out later the campaign did not have any. It seemed like many of the people who were liberal Democrats supported Obama, while more of the Clinton supporters were the type who called themselves Democrats but would consider voting for McCain if Obama were not the nominee.

A lot of people who were already registered thanked me for what I was doing and said it was a good public service. I don't know if all of them were for Obama, but I would imagine some of them were.

Among the more interesting encounters I had were:

  • A mother who was there with her college-age son, who I think was on spring break from Temple. He said that he had seen people on campus from the Obama campaign doing voter registration. I asked if he was going to vote for Obama, and he said he wasn't sure, but his mother said sharply "no, you're not!" Hopefully he'll make up his own mind. Later on I wished I had said "hey, don't tell your Mama you're for Obama."
  • The Joe-six-pack type who had been for Richardson then Edwards, but is now voting for Obama, mainly because he dislikes Hillary. He was very pleased about the Richardson endorsement.
  • A woman who did not want to change her registration because it meant having to choose between Clinton and Obama, when she really liked them both. I told her I like Hillary but I work in politics and I know enough about politicians behind the scenes to know that Obama is really something special. I encouraged her to take a form, and pointed out that if she registered as a Democrat, she'd have 30 days to make up her mind, and if she still could not decide she did not have to vote in the primary, but that way she'd have the option. She took a form and hopefully she will fill it out and send it.
  • The woman who has been a staunch Republican all her life and hates Hillary, though she would like to see a woman president. She said she would have more respect for Hillary if she had left Bill after he cheated on her. She won't vote for Obama but she really likes him. She told me a story about a time when she got to go to the governor's mansion in Arkansas when Bill was governor. (she had been involved with this group for women in construction and got to go to some political events as a result). She said that when she was there, they overheard Hillary screaming at Bill with all kinds of expletives, complaining that he had been away for three days and accusing him of screwing around. She could have been making this up, but it did not sound terribly implausible.

All in all, I would say Obama definitely had a substantial and diverse base of support in the area, but perhaps not as high as it should be in an upper-income suburb. Although when I thought about the fact that not everyone there was a Democrat to begin with (45% of the county voted for Bush, though I would guess that number was lower in the particular area I was in), it did not seem so bad.

At the end of the day, I was moderately encouraged. Obama has definitely lost some support in the last week, but his support among white voters has not collapsed as I had initially feared.

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  •  Thanks for the update (11+ / 0-)

    and thanks for your hard work.  

    Iraq is John McCain's Viagra. Warning: If your erection lasts more than 100 years, PULL OUT!

    by foxsucks81 on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 07:43:05 PM PDT

  •  Thanks for the update and thank you so much for (7+ / 0-)

    what you are doing!  I know it can be difficult, I canvassed in Collin County Texas which is a very Republican area.  It can be a little discouraging but it is so important.  Keep it up and thanks again.

  •  Mark Penn says you are a liar (5+ / 0-)

    The Joe-six-pack type who had been for Richardson then Edwards, but is now voting for Obama, mainly because he dislikes Hillary. He was very pleased about the Richardson endorsement.

    Only Latinos care about Richardson endorsement-Thus saith Mark Penn.

    Did you know that Obama is responsible for everything ever uttered by a black person and any supporter? Obama-Taking on the sins of the world since 1/03/08.

    by Shhs on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 07:46:48 PM PDT

  •  Don't be discouraged--as you said (4+ / 0-)

    consider that if 25% of the registered voters you meet are pro-Obama, you've got half of the Democrats, essentially.

    I expect a loss in PA, followed by some trumpeting from the Hillary camp and no significant delegate gain. This race is over, and I'm sick to death of hearing people pretend it's not. But the more great work you do, the more nails you put in the coffin, and I commend you all the way.

  •  Deputy Registrar (1+ / 0-)

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    Did you have to become a deputy registrar to do this?  

    Thank you so much for doing this!

    Voter registration is SOOOOOOOOOO important and an often overlooked strategy of elections.

    Thank YOU!!

    Will you help me raise $1000 for Jay Nixon who is running for Governor of Missouri.

    by aimeeinkc on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 07:56:37 PM PDT

  •  It takes time to get the momentum (2+ / 0-)

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    to build. We did the same in Ohio - little support at the beginning, but then the excitement built. Keep going! You're doing good no matter what. We're counting on you.

  •  Keep up the good fight neighbor! (8+ / 0-)

    I'm in Montgomery County too, and have been getting a pretty positive response from most people I speak to. You're completely right about the democratic voters that are registered republican here. A fair portion of the people I've registered were converts, many of which were registered repubs because of local government as you mentioned. What I've found that really works, is having them fill out the registration form to switch parties on the spot and give them another form to take home so that they can switch back to republican after the primary if they want to.

    I've got Obama signs in my front yard and I have people, sometimes complete strangers, pull over infront of my home and ask me for signs, bumper stickers, registration info, ect. BTW, they do have some few yard signs at the campaign headquarters by the Plymouth Meeting Mall. (they're $8 a piece)

    Hillary Clinton...testicular fortitude from day one!

    by Kelly of PA on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 08:05:00 PM PDT

  •  Tips? (11+ / 0-)

    Forgot to post that before.

    "There's not a liberal America and a conservative America; THERE'S THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA." OBAMA '08

    by democrattotheend on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 08:08:59 PM PDT

  •  One name: David Axelrod (0+ / 0-)

    I can't imagine why someone that some out there claim to be anti-semitic would have a Jewish chief strategist...

  •  Controlled experiment and Narberth (1+ / 0-)

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    Unless you did the same thing before the flap over Wright, you can't say Obama lost support.

    Narberth is a mix of the upper income types you describe and working class (although it's getting more yuppified all the time).  (It used to be where the people who provided services (maids, lawn care, etc.) to the Main Line mansions lived - working class village plunked down in the middle of affluence.) It's also very Catholic/Irish.  So it's possible that a number of people shopping at the Supermarket (Acme on Montgomery?) were in Hillary's demographic.

    Thanks for your work and bravo for sticking it out despite the disappointments.

    The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

    by accumbens on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 08:10:24 PM PDT

  •  Thanks for your work (3+ / 0-)

    "If any question why we died. Tell them, because our fathers lied".... Kipling

    by TNforkerry on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 08:12:59 PM PDT

  •  I work in Narberth (4+ / 0-)

    and many of my customers are Jewish.  Sad to say .. I knew from the beginning that they didn't like Obama.  It's a racial/ethnic divide here that is as big if not bigger than the much talked about Latino/Black divide.   Most Jewish people around here just are inclined to not trust African American politicians.  Its too bad we don't have more concrete evidence of Hillary's anti-Semitic rantings when she was First Lady of Arkansas.

    •  Ages? (0+ / 0-)

      You find that the case for Jews across ages or just for older folks?

      The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

      by accumbens on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 08:17:07 PM PDT

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    •  asdf (0+ / 0-)

      Its too bad we don't have more concrete evidence of Hillary's anti-Semitic rantings when she was First Lady of Arkansas.

      I wouldn't say it's "too bad," no, that there's no evidence backing up one piece of conservative right-wing urban legend.

      When I first read this diary, I was discouraged for Obama, not because of the Pennsylvania primary, but because I hope he can win in the general election. I do not think this is all a zero-sum game where attacking Hillary Clinton as a Jew-hater would somehow improve Obama's chances with those voters in November.

    •  Feh. (1+ / 0-)

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      I'm working with a list of about 300 volunteers already and I would guess that at least half of them are Jewish of all age groups.  I know tons of Jews here in my area who are Obama supporters, and avid ones too.  There are liberal and conservative people among every demographic.  The more progressive people like Obama, the more conservatives ones lean Hillary or McCain. I don't think it is all that different from any demographic, except probably more liberal leaning and open to Obama.

    •  I haven't always trusted them. But I trust Obama (1+ / 0-)

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      I will admit that I am a little skeptical of some African American politicians because of the lukewarm support of Israel from some CBC members (please don't flame me. I have moved to the left on the issue, but I used to be very skeptical). When I first heard of Barack Obama, back when he was running for Senate, that was the first question I asked about him, probably because I thought he was a Muslim when I heard his name. But my boyfriend at the time told me that he was very pro-Israel. My now-ex boyfriend has since become Orthodox and is studying at a Yeshiva in Israel and has moved significantly to the right on Israel/Palestinian issues, but he still supports Obama.

      Tell your customers to call the Wynnewood office. One of the guys there (I will find out his name tomorrow) spent a year in Israel and is very pro-Israel and said that he would not work for anyone he did not trust on the issue. Maybe he can reassure some of your customers.

      "There's not a liberal America and a conservative America; THERE'S THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA." OBAMA '08

      by democrattotheend on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 08:23:42 PM PDT

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    •  Well, there's always hillaryproject.com. (0+ / 0-)

      I know this is hardly concrete evidence.  But oh well.

      •  there isn't any concrete evidence (1+ / 0-)

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        If there were, it would be out there already.

        It's all really just second hand rumors and unsubstantiated testimony.  But when you hear it first hand from real people, you're more likely to believe it.  The other day, one of my customers was talking about his nephew who is in the Secret Service.  Apparently his nephew could attest to the legendary foul-mouthedness of Hillary Clinton, and the disrespectful way in which she treated her Secret Service detail.

  •  Thanks for coming! (2+ / 0-)

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    I live in Narberth and have been working here for several weeks.  I think we have a lot of interest and a strong volunteer presence, a lot of college students, a lot of smart, educated people and I think he'll do well here.  But the Acme on Montgomery Avenue is definitely not the place to find the most progressive folks in the neighborhood!  And, yes, there is a problem with perceptions and trust in the Jewish community that the campaign is highly aware of, as you know.  I think this is a smart, educated community and as the facts come out, people will lose a lot of their suspicion.

    •  They are highly aware and on top of it (0+ / 0-)

      One of the guys in that office is a religious Jew who spent a year in Israel before coming to the campaign. He seems like a really good advocate for Obama on the issue. They sent me to that Acme because I said I could handle the Likkudniks because I went to high school with people like that.

      I am glad to hear you say that about the Acme...I guess I should not be too concerned that this represents the whole Main Line area. If Obama does not win the Main Line he loses PA by 20. It's as much of a must-win for him in the primary as it was for Kerry in the general.

      "There's not a liberal America and a conservative America; THERE'S THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA." OBAMA '08

      by democrattotheend on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 08:26:42 PM PDT

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      •  He won't win the Main Line/Montco (1+ / 0-)

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        but he may win Chester County and Delaware County.  I think it will take some good John Edwards style economic populism to have a shot in those areas.

        I really think that a loss by 10 points is a victory for Obama in this state.

        •  Really? I thought it was the opposite (0+ / 0-)

          I think he is more likely to win Montgomery than Chester. Chester is a lot of white working class, no? Montgomery has a lot of latte liberals, though some are more religious Jews who are less likely to support Obama.

          "There's not a liberal America and a conservative America; THERE'S THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA." OBAMA '08

          by democrattotheend on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 08:35:39 PM PDT

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          •  i'll go against conventional wisdom (0+ / 0-)

            and say that Obama is more likely to win, say, 35 to 40% of working class whites in Chester County than he is to win the same percentage of affluent Jewish and non-Jewish older voters in Montco.  I don't think that the mansion-owners in the Main Line fit the "latte liberal" concept.  They are not Liberals.  And I could be wrong, but I think there are more African Americans in Chester County.

            •  You could be right (0+ / 0-)

              These people lean Democratic but they have a neocon tendency, at least the Jews. Some of those people are latte liberal but a lot are more conservative on foreign policy and taxes. I bet I would have gotten a different reaction if I had gone to the Whole Foods instead of Acme. Probably more latte liberals there.

              "There's not a liberal America and a conservative America; THERE'S THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA." OBAMA '08

              by democrattotheend on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 08:54:42 PM PDT

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              •  Exactly! (0+ / 0-)

                Obama wins President of Whole Foods in a Landslide. :)

                I checked the Demographics, and I was wrong about more African Americans in Chesco than Montco.  I tend to associate the Main Line with Montco as a whole.

                I'ld think that Obama's best hope in the Philly burbs in general is getting out the vote on the college campuses.  I think he and Michelle should hit every campus that they can with a rally.

                •  I do the same thing (0+ / 0-)

                  I assume that all of MontCo is like the Main Line. It's the only part I know. But if I understand correctly Upper Merion is more middle class than Lower Merion. Is it working class whites or African Americans?

                  "There's not a liberal America and a conservative America; THERE'S THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA." OBAMA '08

                  by democrattotheend on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 09:02:44 PM PDT

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                  •  MontCo is HUGE (0+ / 0-)

                    and pretty diverse economically.  It encompasses really liberal bastions like Ambler/Abington, AA areas like Cheltenham, and very working class white areas like Horsham, Quakertown, Pottstown.  The ML is only a small part.  And, yes, it's been Republican forever.  But there are a ton of students, and professionals and professors  that live here and this comprises a very solid, reliable block for Obama.  You know, the mansions are more "obvious" but they are more few and far between than people some time acknowledge.  A lot more people live in those more modest neighborhoods where the homes are closer together.

                    But, sure, there are a couple of demographics where it is an uphill battle.  A lot will depend on how many people we are getting registered, which is why your efforts are so critical and your help is so valuable at this time.

  •  obama need to spend more time in PA (1+ / 0-)

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    i know he needs to shore up his vote in other states but he has to narrow hte gap in PA. if he loses by 20 points it ill not be good

    To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men~~ Abraham Lincoln

    by Tanya on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 08:32:35 PM PDT

    •  I have really mixed feelings (0+ / 0-)

      Part of me says he should move to PA for the next month, but part of me says if he does that it ups the ante. He can't win it, not with Clinton having such a lock on the Democratic machine and just about every statewide and local Democratic official. So downplaying it may be the best strategy, but if he does that he risks a blowout.

      "There's not a liberal America and a conservative America; THERE'S THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA." OBAMA '08

      by democrattotheend on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 08:39:01 PM PDT

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  •  Don't get discouraged (0+ / 0-)

    Most people are registered.  Only 1 in 10 bother to vote in the primary.  Many in that region are Republicans and won't be voting.

    Kerry won PA by winning only five districts.  Phila/ Chester, Montgomery, Pittsburgh, Erie.

  •  You should direct people to this article... (0+ / 0-)

    or print it out for them if you have the chance:

    http://query.nytimes.com/...

    It proves she was lying about rejecting the support of the alleged anti-Semitic group in the state of New York when she was running for the Senate in 2000.  She just totally lied about that.  (during the Cleveland debate)

    •  Nah, I don't want to do that (0+ / 0-)

      These are people who might vote for McCain in the fall if they don't trust the Democrat on Israel. So I don't want to show them anything that would give them less reason to trust either Democrat on the issue. If you find anything that shows McCain not being good on Israel, PLEASE bring it to my attention ASAP.

      "There's not a liberal America and a conservative America; THERE'S THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA." OBAMA '08

      by democrattotheend on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 09:51:19 PM PDT

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  •  What about... (0+ / 0-)

    the students at Haverford and Bryn Mawr.  Maybe even Villanova.  If it's still there, go to the farmer's market in Ardmore tomorrow.  There should be a healthy mix of customers there.  (I used to live in Bryn Mawr, near the college, but have been in SoCal for 22 years now.)

    I once stood at the red meat butcher's counter in the farmer's market sharing pork chop recipes with Patti LaBelle, so you never know.

    Someone mentioned the whole Wright flap to me recently.  I told her that that was just the way Black preachers talk sometimes.  I said that's just the way some Black preachers sermonize, going over the top to make a point.  I compared him to Patti LaBelle back in the day who often went WAY over the top to sell the end of a song.  It actually made sense to her.  For a white boy Presbyterian, I sometimes amaze myself.

  •  We all owe you thanks (1+ / 0-)

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    for getting out and doing this.

    And I have to say I'm glad I live on another planet, where people are sane, and intelligent, and not so brainwashed.  

    •  Damn -- that's cold... (0+ / 0-)

      I don't really read Halprin since I think he's kinda a bigot (and this opinion pre-dates Obama and is related to how he covers most candidates of color regardless of party.  But he is also a bigot regarding political party, insomuch that he favors Republicans).  Anyway, interesting to see a cold analysis, even if it follows Politico, of the situation.

  •  Thanks for getting involved... (0+ / 0-)

    but here's the thing, the MSM and those of us who are addicted to politics (entering a 12 step program in November, tried to do it cold turkey...got the d.t's) act like the PA, the NC and IN primaries are happening tomorrow -- Easter is in two days and April 1st is more than a week away.  Given how quickly, yet slowly, this campaign has happened, 4 weeks is an eternity.

    Obama is NOT going to win PA, but he's going to close the gap...he's going to deny Hillary the victory she needs to once again re-write the rules, that's all that matters.  And that's what we have got to focus on and work on.

  •  This is reflective of the fact... (0+ / 0-)

    That yes, Obama has a problem with Orthodox Jews.  It also has very little to do with Wright - they're just inclined not to like him, and this just reinforced it.

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