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Sullivan's Mythology: Obama needs more Cowboy

Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 05:00:03 PM PDT

Andy, Andy. You've been dreaming and droning about Obama Republicans, and they are there. But you've taken the Reagan Democrat mythology and spackled it onto the man from Illinois without understanding, I think, how mythology works.

Peggy Noonan, semi-admiring Obama's Wright Speech here, channels Ronnie as is her custom, teeing it up for Sullivan. Andy then attempts a heroic bank shot off the gnome, the fiberglass rhino, and into the door of the windmill:

[Some Kant, some Campbell, some Christopher Robin, some totally unfair shrinkifying of Hillary and Andy, a lion's front, a goat's middle, a snake's tail, and a magical pony, after the jump...]

The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan: That's why I think Pennsylvania is an opportunity for him. The most tired element, and the least refreshing aspect, of his message so far is a resort to left bromides about the grim facts of American life in the last twenty years or so. There are problems, real problems. Inequality, fostered by globalization, has left many Americans treading water at best. But the vitality of the economy, the astonishing creativity of American industry, especially in tech and pharmaceuticals, the miracle of the Internet, the relative cheapness of items like food and clothing that once consumed far more of the average American's expenses - these are also integral to the picture. Obama hasn't conveyed this complicated picture - perhaps because of the primary season. But he should. America needs hope. But it is not currently hopeless. And its recent past, despite the disasters of the past eight years, has had as many highs as lows.

Yes, the "left bromides about the grim facts of American life" are, well, grim, aren't they? But "if you can't say anything nice..." only goes so far here. A big part of slaying dragons and earning the hand of the fair maiden requires actually being in the company of, well, dragons. If dragon-breath, dragon-wreckage, and dragon-droppings make you queasy, maybe you've picked the wrong gig?

Andy is an unenviable position. Several really. He's actually trying to reconcile some of the metastatic misjudgments he's made in the last 8 or so years, most based on supremely magical thinking and mythic projection (Go to this Slate post of his look into the abyss.)

But, with his support of Obama, he's in a double bind. On the face of it, a vote for Obama offers psychic atonement and a public display of--what?--Hope? Practical open-mindedness? Atypical-white-personness? Probably some of each. But, and big but here, the Democrat's appeal to and via Kantian Intrinsic Goods such as Hope and Courage, Prudence and Charity have direct opposites in the concepts of Wrath and Fear, Sloth and Avarice. As Lakoff is noted for pointing out, orientational metaphors and concepts are meaningless without their opposites. Down needs an Up. Wrath demands Justice. Avarice evokes and revivifies Charity.

In a way, that's what this fight is about--Hillary versus Obama, I mean. He is tuned to Intrinsic and immutable concepts, she is aligned with the tired professional toolkit of "I'm about solutions™," otherwise known as Instrumental Goods.  He compels others to consider self-sacrifice and Hope, she offers her time and energy and body as a Warrior, a sacrifice for our good - We Can versus I Will. Hers is truly a Martyr archetype versus his Sage or transforming Magician. Think about that for a moment. Hillary freaks over his ascendence because she, like certain others, can't hear the frequency of Obama's tune; can't understand how "words, just words" deserve any respect in a world of Men and Women of Action--in a world framed and formed by "Leaders" like her, each proud of their formulae and instruments. "Leaders" who misunderstand their job and turn it instead into "management," forgetting or never learning that actual leaders don't so much inspire others as they seek to catalyze those others to self-inspire. The reason this latter, truer definition makes sense is supremely practical -- you can't really do it alone, despite your admiration for Die Hard's John McClane or GE's Jack Welch. Leadership is a sort of 50 State Strategy for the heart and mind where everybody gets to fill their own big chair in ways large and small.

So, Andy, like a surprising (to some) cross-section of Americans are responding viscerally and behaviorally to their idealised self being reflected back at them by Obama. Andy likes liking Andy and believing the best of himself, as do we all. But, as guys like Jung and Boree tell us, the "Self"we're talking about here is the transcendence of opposites--the accommodation of higher and base elements within our psyches--not the banishment of the less savory bits. And there's the problem. Okay, the problems...

There are problems, real problems. Inequality, fostered by globalization, has left many Americans treading water at best.

Damn, "treading water" is what you do while waiting to be rescued, Andy. Or, while waiting for your asshole brother in law to come back around with the boat.  It's hard to be charitable and philosophical when you're snorting in water every couple of breaths. Reports from the field suggest most are praying the lifeguard gets to them quick. But I digress. What advantages should diminish the impact of Sullivan's tiring cultural swim test?

the vitality of the economy, the astonishing creativity of American industry, especially in tech and pharmaceuticals, the miracle of the Internet, the relative cheapness of items like food and clothing that once consumed far more of the average American's expenses

Do you see it, or is it just me? A vital economy that has many treading water. A sleek American socio-economic clipper deserving of awe from its "many" citizens, who, while treading water should find the time to admire it's astonishingly creative form as it glides past them on its weekly jaunt to Asia. (Their dream jobs in it's cargo hold one way and returning with those "relatively cheap items" that they tread some extra-more to afford.)

Now, I'm just a stupid business consultant, so take this for what it's worth, but there aren't many middle managers I've met who can muster sustained interest, never mind bliss, when asked to contemplate the trails blazed by pharma science and process materials patentry. Most are consumed with their own variety of dog paddle.

I'll stop parsing with "recent disasters" equaling some imagined "highs" since my overworked prose doesn't do justice to such easy sport as Andy presents. He does deserve some credit for tiptoeing up to that abyss: Sullivan's trying where others remain soulless and unapologetic cowards, armchair dragon-slayers, pretend warriors. But Andy's not going to find his absolution, his clarity (and nor would others), until he lets go of the a la carte method of characterizing the dragons he's really trying to slay.

The mythology here is really the truest way to explain Andy's temporal battle. Myths are gathered collections of meaning holding immutable lessons played out by people with funny names doing alarming things.  They are fantasy or fabrications on the outside, true and sustaining in some way at their core. But it's easy to get them muxed. Noonan's and Andy's Reagan, as history shows, was less their beautiful Achilles and more the mythical three-part Chimera defined - A persona that said one thing, an ego that did another, and a self that believed there was no dissonance between the two.

REAGAN (3/4/87): A few months ago, I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that’s true. But the facts and the evidence tell me it is not.

And so it goes; archetypes need not observe gravity and other laws if they feed some latent or damaged need in those who have the mass, the mouth or the money to sustain them.

Still, the Reagan Chimera, draped over the country as a whole, offends the sensibilities of people who are asked to agree that it is, in fact, a beautiful Pegasus-like steed at all times. It offends people whose mythology and reality are equally alarming: 20 year-old men hanging from trees and set afire is unbelievably horrible imagery fresh in the minds of now-70 year-old men who escaped alive that particular chapter of American White-Horse Exceptionalism. Likewise, 35 year-old workers told to get tech jobs to replace their disappearing factory ones now find, at 50, that the shiny economy they're to be so proud of rewards market sentiment and derivatives--a tea leaves-reading priesthood--not guilds of crafting or coding.

As a self-described clear-eyed man, Sullivan continues to take Myth to childish extremes. And to twist it's utility. He looks for the Perfect Hero, ignoring Achilles' heel, ignoring the flaws of the actor-president he adores; ignoring the necessary qualifications of "Hero." Andy wants Obama to heavy up on the Greek, and go easy on the Tragedy. He wants fantasy within the fantasy, a Gyro, not a Hero.

But, left to their own interpretive devices, grown-up Americans seem quite game to accept the truth within their ideal, to attempt an honest, unvarnished appraisal of at least one national dragon.

CBS/NYTimes National Poll: 70% Approved of Obama's Speech
by rashomon

And so, in order that Andy's cosmology can suffer least damage, Andy prescribes that Obama contort himself to the wrong kind of fantastical storytelling, falsifying the depth of lesson-learning and fact-acknowledging that underlies Obama's outward appeal. Andy wants Obama to make it all better by ignoring what made it "worse." But that is a recipe for another fabled tale, the continued Sisyphean boulder-pushing many sense of life in these 21st Century times that were supposed to be "better."

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  •  Yes Sully would want more cowboy (1+ / 0-)

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    fouro

    got to give you props for that title  =)

    "Proud to proclaim: I am a Bleeding Heart Liberal"

    by sara seattle on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 05:03:11 PM PDT

    •  Long way to the bottom on this one (2+ / 0-)

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      [Thanks!]

      •  rec'd in spite of it sounding like (2+ / 0-)

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        fouro, aitchdee

        a paper for Eng/Psych 352, "Analysis of Classic Archetypical Narratives vis a vis Current Cultural Phenomena," largely on the basis of this gem:

        Leadership is a sort of 50 State Strategy for the heart and mind where everybody gets to fill their own big chair in ways large and small.

        Thanks for some very revealing observations.

        "Well, yeah, the Constitution is worth it if you can succeed." -Nancy Pelosi, 6/29/07.

        by nailbender on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 06:01:03 PM PDT

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        •  I'll put more "fucks" in next time! (2+ / 0-)

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          thanks for the kind words. I'm sure this explains why clients like the results of our strategies much more than the powerpoints explaining how we got there.

          •  fails the English paper test beautifully (1+ / 0-)

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            fouro

            Too much frolicking in the vernacular, too little scholarly fust, and not a reference to Michel Foucault to its name: about as non English-paperesque as a sparklingly vibrant, open-audience (no secret handshake required) nonfiction essay can get. I loved it. You sound like a young James Hillman fresh from a long, meditative bathtub soak with a dwindling pack of Pal Mall unfiltereds and a damp, obsessively dog-eared copy of J.D. Salinger's Raise High the Roofbeams, Carpenters.

            Applied Archetypal Psychology isn't unheard of on dailykos (it's probably safe to say that alchemy really is) but it's rare--and rarer still to find it treated without undo academic solemnity, snot-nosed literalist debunkery, or reduced to Joe C. & the Hero's Journey For Dummies (though I mind that far less than the other two).

            In my opinion, the tone of this essay--smart, informal, a little breathless at times and (best of all), talking down to no one--is just right, pitch-perfect. Not to say that I sense a whole lot of calculation on your part--at least nothing more than opting to use your natural, in-print voice (thank God). (Then again, my literary judgment, in any formal sense, is about as authoritative as Betty Boop's. I write, but never nonfiction. ((I do seem to read an awful lot of it, though.)) Like most people, I know what I like, and I liked this a lot.  So take this for the thoroughly inexpert, admiring reader's opinion that it is.)

            Here, your stylistic daring-do and deep insight come together in a single rip-roaring paragraph:

            Hers is truly a Martyr archetype versus his Sage or transforming Magician. Think about that for a moment. Hillary freaks over his ascendence because she, like certain others, can't hear the frequency of Obama's tune; can't understand how "words, just words" deserve any respect in a world of Men and Women of Action--in a world framed and formed by "Leaders" like her, each proud of their formulae and instruments. "Leaders" who misunderstand their job and turn it instead into "management," forgetting or never learning that actual leaders don't so much inspire others as they seek to catalyze those others to self-inspire. The reason this latter, truer definition makes sense is supremely practical -- you can't really do it alone, despite your admiration for Die Hard's John McClane or GE's Jack Welch. Leadership is a sort of 50 State Strategy for the heart and mind where everybody gets to fill their own big chair in ways large and small.

            Actually, the whole thing is chock-a-block with original, freewheeling, look-ma-no-hands riffs like this. It was a genuine blast to read. I appreciate the risks--not only stylistic but analytical--that (I suspect) you took as well. They paid off.

            So, yeah. I'm pretty impressed. Granted, I have a xenophile's taste for eccentric nonfiction that (like Hillman's) rollicks discursively along, minding its own rules, following its own weird, substantively whipsmart and unselfconsciously stylish, often as revealing of its author as of his given subject matter.

            That said, you'll forgive me if, in the future, I won't let you get away with any more of this

            I'm just a stupid business consultant

            baloney. ;-)

            Looking forward to more from you. Rifling through your back-catalog meantime.

            best,
            Harper

            God bless our tinfoil hearts.

            by aitchdee on Sun Mar 23, 2008 at 12:29:57 AM PDT

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            •  Wow. Now, if I'd gotten an evaluation like that (1+ / 0-)

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              in school, it would have saved me years of toil and angst as a mouthpiece for sweatshop exploitation and 'building shareholder value."

              Thanks for taking the time to do that, aitchdee. You made my day!

    •  Sullivan wants MORE COWBELL! n/t (4+ / 0-)

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      It ain't called paranoia - when they're really out to get you. 6 points.

      by Jaime Frontero on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 05:11:39 PM PDT

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      •  As to the rest, I'm afraid the Diarist... (0+ / 0-)

        ...lost me with the contrived and repetitious use of the diminutive of Sullivan's first name as a literary device.

        I've never really liked that.

        And while I may have any number of disagreements with Mr. Sullivan, I find him honorable.  It's been a pleasure watching him grow.

        I suspect that he'll be picking Obama over McCain in the GE - in fact, I'm thinking of setting up a pool.

        It ain't called paranoia - when they're really out to get you. 6 points.

        by Jaime Frontero on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 05:15:36 PM PDT

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        •  hmmmm (1+ / 0-)

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          actually with some of his comments as a guide - I think that the diminutive of Sullivan's first name has been quite appropriate

          "Proud to proclaim: I am a Bleeding Heart Liberal"

          by sara seattle on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 05:21:49 PM PDT

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          •  Well, tastes differ. (2+ / 0-)

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            My own belief is that while Sullivan has certainly been over the top on any number of issues, he's been both entertaining and honest.  He's also admitted when he's been wrong - which admissions have been more and more frequent, of late.

            He's not some kind of Red State punk.  And there is always value in engaging one's opponents in civil discourse.

            The thing is, Sullivan is going to wind up supporting more progressive causes than not - that's my belief.  Perhaps not more classically liberal causes; but progressive ones.

            In any case, I like the man.  Can't help it.

            It ain't called paranoia - when they're really out to get you. 6 points.

            by Jaime Frontero on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 05:28:42 PM PDT

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            •  I haven't read him for quite a while (1+ / 0-)

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              had to stop when he was quite over the moon for Bush

              "Proud to proclaim: I am a Bleeding Heart Liberal"

              by sara seattle on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 05:36:35 PM PDT

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            •  yes, supporting progressive cause (0+ / 0-)

              while threading the needle to maintain some strange degree of distance from the label or its better attributes.

              •  Some people have epiphanies. (0+ / 0-)

                Some take a longer road.  He's an adult, with any adults' entrenched history - all the more entrenched, due to his high visibility.

                I take it you read his page from today?

                Lemme see...

                1.) Slam the "talk show thugs of the far right" on Wright.

                2.) Slam Senator Clinton on her taxes.

                3.) Slam Carville on his Judas remark.

                4.) Slam senator Clinton on the 'sniper fire' incident.

                5.) Highlight a reader's slam of President Clinton's 'two patriots' remark.

                6.) Another 'sniper fire' slam.

                7.) Praise Mikhail Gorbachev for admitting his Christianity.

                8.) Post the 'Obama-sistible' video.

                9.) Chess-boxing? Weird.

                10.) Post a cringe-worthy McCain video.

                11.) Touts an Obama-Richardson ticket.

                12.) Posts a disparaging reaction to Osama bin Laden's new video.

                13.) Yglesias Award Nominee (site-centric)

                14.) Defends President Clinton tepidly, but can't hold the thought.

                15.) Posts a Sam Harris excerpt on Obama's efforts on religion and The Speech. [n.b.; Sullivan's debate with Sam Harris in re religion is a must read]

                16.) A positive post on the CBS News poll showing Obama's bounce-back from the Wright speech.

                17.) Highlights Novak's column on the Democratic "nightmare scenario".

                18.) repeat #13.

                19.) A little Dave Barry humor on MI/FL.

                20.) Points out that Senator Clinton is broke.

                21.) Beards and Doctors...?

                22.) A CQ hit on a Senator Clinton lobbyist.

                23.) Suicide By Robot.

                24.) A piece on Peggy Noonan.

                25.) A positive take on Iraq withdrawal.

                26.) Another Senator Clinton fundraising piece.

                27.) A John Muir environmental/religious appreciation.

                AND LASTLY:

                28.) "What I Got Wrong About Iraq" - A very long piece about exactly that.

                Now pop back over to the Rec List here.  Pretty much the same thing, no?

                It ain't called paranoia - when they're really out to get you. 6 points.

                by Jaime Frontero on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 06:35:21 PM PDT

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                •  Well (1+ / 0-)

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                  That is quite the list. But I think you still presume I'm suggesting he's somehow 'unrepentant." Not so. I merely suggest that he's not going to succeed in his  apparent mono-mythic journey if he insists on making its requirements conform to him rather than the necessary other way 'round.

                  He wants the wreckage not only to not be something he fully abetted, he wants it much less wreckage-like and much less graphically described. As said above...

                  threading the needle to maintain some strange degree of distance from the label or its better attributes.

        •  Funny. I'm glad I didn't use "cowbell" (0+ / 0-)

          as a prod, leaving it to the intelligence of the reader to fill in that association.

          /snark

          Sullivan's growth may have been your pleasure, but his movement comes only from pain, not some hard earned vision quest. Still in a corner, he seems to think that his disdain for liberals makes sympathetic his piss poor reasoning. I wish him luck, but I'll never forget his quixotic ideas and his accusations (Fifth Columns, etc) around some odd definition of American-ness. Being UK-born, US-raised with family still in both, his hyperbolic tendency is all to familiar to this brain.  

          •  Reasonable people can disagree. (1+ / 0-)

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            And I maintain that Sullivan is a reasonable man.

            You should read his page just from today.  Most of the posts would make you think you were here, if the color scheme wasn't different.

            It ain't called paranoia - when they're really out to get you. 6 points.

            by Jaime Frontero on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 05:43:28 PM PDT

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  •  You get a +1 just for mentioning (1+ / 0-)

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    Lakoff and orientational metaphors.

    For those not familiar, it is Metaphors We Live By.  

    Workers of the world unite--back by popular demand.

    by Kab ibn al Ashraf on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 05:07:18 PM PDT

  •  i liked it (2+ / 0-)

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    Noonan's and Andy's Reagan, as history shows, was less their beautiful Achilles and more the mythical three-part Chimera defined - A persona that said one thing, an ego that did another, and a self that believed there was no dissonance between the two.

    thats a pretty good phrase to me. also, accurate. i think you might ask too much of them though. to examine reagan as the man not the god would rock the fundamental assumptions of their world. really how often are people willing to do that?

  •  Poor Andrew is having a problem (3+ / 0-)

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    I really feel sorry for the guy.  He's holding onto this mythological "conservatism" that has been gone so long that nobody knows what he's talking about.
    Andrew has realized (for quite a while) that Bush & Friends are retards, and that we need to get the country back on track.  He also has a visceral hatred (or perhaps just a distain?) for all things Clinton.  (This is not a personal failing of his... this is something that fully half of the voting populus shares.)
    IMHO... Andrew thinks the country is drowning, and he's grasping at straws, and Obama is that straw.  He realizes that McCain is not a solution, just a continuation of the problem.  And he thinks that a return to Clintonism is just a return to the state which led to the horrible situation we're in.
    To be honest, I feel pretty much the same way.

    Don't be a DON'T-DO... Be a DO-DO!

    by godwhataklutz on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 05:27:51 PM PDT

  •  Sullivan: Pol-Worshipper. (1+ / 0-)

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    fouro

    All of it is petty and shallow, but he thinks that's the deep, substantive stuff.  He's a fluff-addict.  That's why he likes Peggy Noonan, who's basically as wise and deep as a box of hammers.

  •  I thought you said more Cowbell. (2+ / 0-)

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    fouro, smellybeast

    If we cannot elect this man, we don't deserve him.

    by lisastar on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 05:48:55 PM PDT

  •  U r ay gud wrighder (0+ / 0-)

    mayk mi laff.

    Cend melc an kadnip plees

  •  You're right. (1+ / 0-)

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    I loved reading your piece.

    We must have our mythologies. Whether the idiots, who blindly follow stupidity, realize it or not.

    We are made of our myths. Choosing the ones we follow makes all the difference.

    Or, to bring up another 20th Century mythology... we can choose the Dark Side of the Force.

    Or not.

    WereBear
    We are not rational beings. We are rationalization beings.
    the way of cats

    by WereBear on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 07:02:03 PM PDT

  •  I've agreed with Sully lately, but not here (1+ / 0-)

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    Sullivan uses Noonan's quote to paint Obama as a Democratic downer who sees all that is wrong with America. Noonan's and Sullivan's memories are colored by Reagan's 1984 "Morning in America" campaign rather than his 1980 campaign. Remember, one of the most persuasive arguments Reagan present that year came in the form of a question at one of the debates: "Are you better off than you were four years ago?" With poor economic conditions, a feeling that American prestige was tarnished abroad, and Washington was viewed as ineffective and bloated (Republicans used an ad that year with a Tip O'Neill look-a-like in a Lincoln Continental that ran of gas.) Reagan was successful in 1980, not just because he had a sunny disposition, because his critique of the state of the nation rang true with the American electorate. Obama and Democrats better represent the values of Americans right now and their critique of where America is rings true. Just because Obama is pointing out how our country is off-track does not mean he does not believe America can't right itself. But without an honest, reality-based assessment of where we as a nation stands, we cannot make progress. It was the decidedly unreality based community this administration fostered that helped lead us to a quagmire in Iraq, record fore-closeures, record debt, a falling dollar, and $110 per barrel oil.

    I live in my own little world...but it's okay. They know me here.

    by John Campanelli on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 07:37:47 PM PDT

    •  Yes! Reagan evoked their reality, (0+ / 0-)

      and offered an out that levered and affirmed that American Exceptionalism thing. It's funny how so many view themselves as pragmatic (intrumentalists) yet are susceptible to the properly tuned hosannas (intrinsics). "The heart has reasons that reason does not know" said Pascal,or Emerson, or somebody.

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