Open Thread

If Hillary Clinton lied about snipers in Bosnia because of sleep deprivation (doubtful, given it's a lie she's said at least four times), then what will she do when she gets that call at 3 a.m.?

Remember, she's clothed and wearing makeup at that hour, so chances are, she's not getting much sleep -- kos

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•  Good question!

  by Hope08 on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:21:08 PM PDT

  •  Well, I know

    I'm usually clothed and wearing makeup at 3 A.M.!

    (Uh-oh, I've said too much....)

    by JoeW on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:23:40 PM PDT

    •  You've just crossed...

      ...the too-much-information threshold.  ;)

      by Spunkmeyer on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:24:53 PM PDT

      •  I'm ready to serve!

        (If you know what I mean, nudge nudge wink wink...)

        by JoeW on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:26:04 PM PDT

        •  Say no more... (n/t)

          by Spunkmeyer on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:26:48 PM PDT

          •  Monty phyton "nudge, nudge" (can't resist)

            by opedn on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:50:06 PM PDT

            •  A nod's as good as a wink

              to a blind bat!

              by JoeW on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:53:52 PM PDT

              •  Obama Ad Idea: Clinton gets the 3 AM call....

                she answers and says: "Can't talk now.....sniper fire!"

                by Ohiobama on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 02:55:45 AM PDT

      •  Sounds like JoeW does a lot of crossing.

        by sgilman on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:39:37 PM PDT

        •  lol!

          Well, as I always say, "Experience is nothing without bad judgment."

          by JoeW on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:42:45 PM PDT

    •  Are you a club kid? n/t

      by audiored on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:26:01 PM PDT

      •  well, I've got this poem

        I'm dying to read to you....

        by JoeW on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:26:56 PM PDT

        •  I like poems.

          by audiored on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:43:50 PM PDT

    •  Cool! Have I seen you at any NYC clubs?

      by Glinda on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:33:43 PM PDT

  •  even better question...

    ...Bill sent Hillary to Bosnia because it was too dangerous for him to go.

    If Hillary becomes president, will she send Bill out when it's too dangerous for HER to go somewhere?

    Hmmmm...I wonder.

    by DawnG on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:27:12 PM PDT

    •  My catchphrases from this Bosnia incident

      Send the First Lady: Opt out of a dangerous situation by sending someone else.
      (Braver than) that Bosnian girl: A sarcastic remark about someone's bravery, e.g., "Hey Phil, you told him!  You're braver than that Bosnian girl..."
      Go to Tuzla: Tell a lie or exaggeration.

      by wry twinger on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:38:36 PM PDT

  •  She didn't lie

    She just confused the Bosnia with the dozens of other times that she was strafed by snipers.  Now, if she was never exposed to sniper fire anywhere else, I can see where you may think that her original version of the Bosnia landing was a lie, but that can't be the case.  I mean, surely if this were the only time, it would have stood out as something of an even marginally singular experience.  

    by GOTV on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:27:56 PM PDT

    •  Snipers are a big problem in Chappaqua

      The town has also suffered through a vicious tit-for-tat war between dog lovers and cat fanciers.

      by Dump Terry McAuliffe on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:33:30 PM PDT

      •  You've fallen down on your reading

        The big brouhaha these days is between the Pinot drinkers and those who prefer a good French Bordeaux.

        by GOTV on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:35:58 PM PDT

        •  Hey.... snooty upper class burbs are dangerous

          you can lose all social standing in a second if seen wearing the wrong shoes........

          it's Darwinian 'survival of the fittest' at its worst

          You should see how they sacrifice the lowest SAT scorers at Horace Greeley (Chappaqua's HS)..... they're thrown in an abandoned ore pit weighted down with their textbooks.... can't ruin the school averages.

          by xrepub on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:44:44 PM PDT

          •  And as far as I can see,

            Hillary wears the wrong shoes.

            by tithonia on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:55:13 PM PDT

          •  No...low scorers are sent to Mt. Kisco n/t

            by Adzam13 on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:09:01 PM PDT

            •  Mt. Kisco is Bedford Schools

              Once you've bought into a school district they are stuck with you...... but 'accidents' do occur.  Horace Greeley is known for being cut-throat competitive.  

              Actually the laughable thing about Mt. Kisco is that they started a dual language program in the elementary schools to deal with the growing Hispanic population.  Mt. Kisco IS 'diverse' unlike some of the surrounding communities.

              Well.... there was SO much demnand for entry to this program from the middle class WHITE families (who wanted Tiffany or Tyler to have two languages) that they had to hold a lottery for admission......

              You had these really peeved upper middle class white families ANNOYED that their kids were NOT getting into a program designed to deal with the kids of (primarily) illegal immigrants employed cutting lawns and doing construction or restaurant work.....

              by xrepub on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 09:06:09 PM PDT

      •  Don't joke about it...

        people are still recovering from the "Grey Poupon Massacre"...

        by wry twinger on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:42:20 PM PDT

    •  Exactly...

      ...trying to blow this off as a slip of the tongue or misstatement implies that she somehow confused this particular event with some other time when she was fleeing from snipers.

      Apparently, running for President is very much like being a lead character in one of those "Choose Your Own Adventure" books:

      If you want to be President, turn to page 42.
      If you want to be Senator, turn to page 36.

      by Spunkmeyer on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:36:22 PM PDT

      •  Well, to be fair,

        your better Bosnian snipers were probably booked elsewhere that day.

        by GOTV on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:40:12 PM PDT

        •  *Cough*

          ....Technically they would have been Serbian Snipers.

          by jds1978 on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:42:08 PM PDT

          •  And Serbian snipers rarely missed. nt

            by bldr on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:44:51 PM PDT

            •  Not to be an asshole, but

              real people were murdered by Serbian snipers in Bosnia.  Clinton's danger inflation is outrageous precisely because she trivializes the real mortal threat faced by real people shot at by real snipers, not the fake sniper danger told and retold by an  American First Lady who faced down an 8 year old Bosnia girl laden with posies and a poem.

              Okay, now back to regular Hillary programming, you can have at it.

              by Uncle Moji on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 11:49:12 PM PDT

          •  Technically, I regret the error.

            Thanks.  

            by GOTV on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:44:54 PM PDT

            •  NP

              It was such a confused a fluid situation in Former Yugoslavia.

              The American media didn't really explain it well beyond "ancient animosities"---pretty much how theycover the Mid-East today

              by jds1978 on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:17:48 PM PDT

          •  Oh.... would they?

            by Spunkmeyer on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:45:52 PM PDT

      •  Choose Your Own Adventure!

        Thanks for kicking me back to my childhood.

        by jds1978 on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:40:48 PM PDT

    •  Well...She is NAILED

      On CBS.  The money quote from Harry Smith...

      Hang around to the end.  Priceless.  The money quote.  But the whole clip is my personal political "wet dream."  This has gone network, y'all.  Big time.

      by mayan on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:38:03 PM PDT

      •  out comes the knifes

        i think the Liberal world have awoken time to Save Rome

        by akhinaten on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 08:16:24 PM PDT

  •  Don't want to be a jerk

    But I'm almost 100% certain I read a comment earlier that is nearly identical to the question stated in the open thread.

    Shouldn't we be giving someone credit? I mean, yeah, it's possible that the author of this open thread just thought of this idea all on his own, but it's almost exactly like the comment from before.

    by Covin on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:29:36 PM PDT

  •  I have an answer!

    If Hillary Clinton lied about snipers in Bosnia because of sleep deprivation (doubtful, given it's a lie she's said at least four times), then what will she do when she gets that call at 3 a.m.?

    Ask Bill what time he's getting home from the strip club?

    by jabbausaf on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:40:22 PM PDT

•  Hmmm

  If Hillary Clinton lied about snipers in Bosnia because of sleep deprivation (doubtful, given it's a lie she's said at least four times), then what will she do when she gets that call at 3 a.m.?

  Remember, she's clothed and wearing makeup at that hour, so chances are, she's not getting much sleep -- kos

  Naughty, naughty, nasty boy.

  by gchaucer2 on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:21:55 PM PDT

  •  Figure she's waiting up for Bill

    with his suitcase packed...

    by Cali Scribe on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:23:39 PM PDT

    •  Another good questions

      about HRC's judgement.  Why would she stay with someone that repeatedly lied to her, cheated on her, lied under oath, lied to the country?

      Talk about choosing to stay with someone she didn't have to..  

      by audiored on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:28:17 PM PDT

      •  She Stayed with Bill out of Loyalty

        although that doesn't count if you're loyal to your pastor, right?

        by Uthaclena on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:43:38 PM PDT

      •  Because

        ...Bill can help her become pres.

        by jds1978 on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:43:43 PM PDT

      •  You'ld take church advice from her? Nah. n/t

        by Into The Woods on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:43:56 PM PDT

      •  Who cares?

        Wanna write a diary, consisting of every cheesy, or downright shitty thing you've ever done, or been a victim of, or chosen for reasons not obvious to others?

        Step away from the dunking board, sister.

        by labradog on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 08:54:20 PM PDT

    •  More like running through a dozen bars and

      strip joints looking for him.......

      I'm NOT President yet and you are NOT going to ruin this for me NOW.......

      by xrepub on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:46:24 PM PDT

•  A better question:

  what are we going to do to stop Hillary Clinton from poaching delegates?

  by jackbauer8393 on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:21:59 PM PDT

  •  depends...

    ...how successful would such attempts be?

    pledged delegates are pretty solid, superdelegates can't really be poached since they're not pledged.

    I don't see how poaching delegates would get her much except a bad reputation.

    by DawnG on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:24:58 PM PDT

    •  I prefer

      soft-boiled jumbodelegates anyway.

      by JoeW on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:29:30 PM PDT

  •  We can't stop her from Sniping them?

    Sniper Fire!

    by Jimmy Crackcorn on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:27:10 PM PDT

  •  She lost one in Iowa

    If I were her I'd shutup about that. She's likely to end up on the wrong end of that.

    by discocarp on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:30:36 PM PDT

  •  The Clinton's power within the Dem party

    seems to be vastly overstated lately...they haven't had much sway with super delegates, I doubt they'll do better with pledged delegates.

    At this point, they seem to have much more power influencing their friends in the media than they do friends in the party.

    by hollywood politcaljunkie on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:35:21 PM PDT

  •  We Can Fear That...

    but it seems kind of like fearing that experienced internet users will fall victim to Nigerian e-mail scams. Experienced politicians know in their gut who the better candidate is personality wise. They know which candidate can raise more money for Democrats. I think some of them are just stringing the Clintons along (like Richardson) because they don't have the heart to tell them that it ain't happening. It's like stringing along a relative who is selling something that you have no intention of buying.

    by HL Mungo on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:40:54 PM PDT

  •  Don't lose any sleep over this...

    It's not going to happen.

    by Allenfire on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:52:33 PM PDT

  •  I'm an Obama delegate.

    If I receive ANYTHING form the Clinton camp, you can rest assured I will post it for all to see!

    by Joes Steven on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:55:39 PM PDT

    •  I am a back up delegate this Saturday!

      My husband and I will be at the Grand Prairie convention near Dallas, TX this Saturday. He is a delegate but I'm a backup. We have already been contacted by the Obama campaign making sure we knew when and where to go. We also were contacted by mail by the Dem. Party.

      We're excited. Hopefully, it will go smoothly.

      by ElizabethAM on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:38:42 PM PDT

      •  I'll be there too!

        I'm a delegate :) I'll be wearing an Obama tshirt that says "It's all about the delegates, baby!"

        by txvoodoo on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 01:17:12 PM PDT

    •  Awesome

      We are all for full disclosure!

      by margotb822 on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:55:19 PM PDT

  •  Serpentine Hill, Serpentine!

    Tell her poaching involves shooting - she'll just duck and run for the vehicles (and grab a few votes from little girls as she races by muttering "serpentine, serpentine".)

    (Looked in vain for a clip.  Would have been better.  The In-laws with Falk and Arkin.)  

    by Into The Woods on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:59:27 PM PDT

•  The Clintons

  and their destructive hacks need to be purged from the party.

  I fucking hate these people.  Hate them.

  by jre2k8 on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:22:06 PM PDT

  •  Amazing, isn't it?

    I don't think I've ever had so much anger for a politician in my life, including Bush.  Being betrayed by someone who's supposed to be one of us is far worse than watching an enemy do all the horrible crap you expected him to.

    by cartwrightdale on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:24:08 PM PDT

    •  Oh.my.god.... more than Bush?

      Are you watching Bush's War on PBS?

      I cannot fathom that remark.

      by captainlaser on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:28:26 PM PDT

      •  Not saying Clinton is worse than Bush :)

        Just that she's able to evoke more anger, because I expect Republicans to do things that damage the country.

        by cartwrightdale on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:30:22 PM PDT

      •  Not worse than Bush yet

        It is possible that Clinton could be worse than Bush.  Clinton is very polarizing and has shown no competence in running her campaign.

        by dan667 on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:43:11 PM PDT

        •  I don't want to defend her but

          the President of the US is only one player on the board and whoever he or she gets in the Cabinet helps guide the policy of the government.

          Hillary doesn't have access to the likes of Rice, Cheney, Rumsfield, Gonzales, Tenet, Bremer, Card, ....

          There just aren't that many stupid democrats.

          by captainlaser on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:49:42 PM PDT

          •  You think Clintons Campaign Team are good?

            Really?  I mean really?  ....

            If I had this kind of talent in picking people for a company that Clinton has shown to date it would be bankrupt before it opened.  I think Clinton has show she has no ability to pick good people.

            by dan667 on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 08:39:54 PM PDT

      •  Bush's War

        Fabulous show.  Like watching a disaster in slow motion.  Pretty ghastly to sit through, but nothing brings it all together better than Frontline does.  Hundreds of video clips and quotes.

        I know what cartwrightdale means, but Bush and Cheney are far deeper in hell than Hillary Clinton.

        by Heart of the Rockies on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:57:22 PM PDT

        •  Inferno levels--Clinton and Bush

          Bush, Cheney, and Clinton are all in
          Circle 9.2 Traitors to country, political party, any political group.

          So sayeth Dante.

          by eluard on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:55:50 PM PDT

    •  I've just started referring to her as

      Lieberwoman.

      by The Derider on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:29:22 PM PDT

      •  Excellent. -eom

        by MAORCA on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:03:40 PM PDT

    •  Yep, but it's a political truism in some sense

      The Soviets hated the Mencheviks more then the Czar.

      Here's why: you know the old dynasty is going down. Is half dead already. What you don't know is whose going to get to the spoils of power first.

      by DelicateMonster on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:43:09 PM PDT

    •  I Don't Hate Hillary, but

      this is the typical political behaviour that gave Nader the opportunity to claim that there was no real difference between the Pugs and Dems in 2K. It's disheartening.

      As a resident of New York State, between Hillary and Eliot, I am not a happy camper (I don't care for Chuck all that much either, but at least he brings home the bacon...)

      by Uthaclena on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:47:35 PM PDT

•  Hillary In The Pgh Tribune Review ????

  That's Dick Scaife's flagship. This is exactly like interviewing with Moon's Washington Times. Yeesh, switch parties already.

  by bernardpliers on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:22:08 PM PDT

  •  (Link)

    WTF? I mean seriously. WTF?

    http://pittsburghlive.com/...

    by bernardpliers on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:37:52 PM PDT

  •  New party:

    [Applicable Relevant States] for Clinton

    by The Derider on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:47:05 PM PDT

  •  The Clinton/Scaife "schmoozefest" ...

    sent me over the edge this evening. I try to walk a rational, cool-headed, middle line here at dKos. But my "virtual tongue" got embarrassingly sharp in at least one comment I posted.

    I can't wait for this to be over. I think that Clinton will be radioactive after this campaign. She's like a ship in a typhoon whose crew has abandoned it.

    by Glinda on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:39:23 PM PDT

    •  I Did a Diary !!!!

      How that for speed?

      http://www.dailykos.com/...

      by bernardpliers on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:43:30 PM PDT

      •  Oh thank God you deleted your diary

        I posted a comment I regretted and wanted to take back. My comment is no longer easy to see.

        But I must admit it was fun posting it.

        by Glinda on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 08:01:58 PM PDT

        •  Meh. I Posted It At MyDD. (NT)

          by bernardpliers on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 08:42:53 PM PDT

          •  Good for you!

            I'd recommend it if I were registered there.

            But my naughty comment is here but still hard to find.  ;-)

            by Glinda on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 08:52:04 PM PDT

  •  Diary

    http://www.dailykos.com/...

    by bernardpliers on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:44:02 PM PDT

  •  and remember

    this is the same paper that accused the clintons of the "murder" of vince foster.  and she's giving them interviews.

    by the disinfector on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 05:54:23 AM PDT

•  Admittedly I'm losing track of the story,

  but I think the person calling at 3 A.M. is a little girl who just wants to read a poem.

  by JoeW on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:22:13 PM PDT

  •  Yeah, but she was a caucus organizer for Obama

    So she doesn't matter anyway.

    by Oregon guy on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:23:22 PM PDT

    •  But then she morphs into Obama girl.

      It's all very confusing.

      by Into The Woods on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:01:58 PM PDT

•  Open Thread is funny tonight.

  If Hillary Clinton lied about snipers in Bosnia because of sleep deprivation (doubtful, given it's a lie she's said at least four times), then what will she do when she gets that call at 3 a.m.?

  Funny and fair. It is a question that should be asked.

  by alasmoses on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:22:21 PM PDT

  •  Please diary that...

    so we can send it to everyone we know.

    by chillindame on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:00:47 PM PDT

•  Waiting for Bill, no doubt.

  "Sorry I'm late, honey, but Kwame was havin' this killer kegger..."

  by cartwrightdale on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:22:21 PM PDT

•  D. Shuster's report on Nafta-gate

  
  
  
  `````
  peace
  
  

  by peace voter on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:22:22 PM PDT

  •  oh man,

    getting shuster suspended is gonna come back and bite her in the ass real hard.

    by soros on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:54:35 PM PDT

  •  Occasionally she is a human being

    like everybody else?

    So what is she the rest of the time?

    She's not like other girls.

    http://www.youtube.com/...

    by Into The Woods on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:12:01 PM PDT

  •  I wish more of the MSM would focus on this. I

    am guessing that Obama will have a few things to say about this in the next debate, while Hillary will try to play the Canadian thing against him.

    by NomDeKos on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:19:31 PM PDT

    •  I'm going to put my own eyes out

      if I have to watch another debate.

      by eluard on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 08:00:16 PM PDT

•  Sponsored by Bubble Gum and Bailing Wire-

  It's Overnight News Digest!

  by ek hornbeck on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:22:31 PM PDT

  •  Call me at 3 AM

    and I promise I'll be ready to read it.

    by JoeW on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:24:35 PM PDT

    •  But can you read it

      ....at 3AM under small arms fire while drinking a latte.

      Didn't think so

      ;P  

      by jds1978 on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:48:41 PM PDT

  •  Sorry, I can't find that Story.

    hmmph.

    by ROGNM on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:29:36 PM PDT

    •  I always post...

      when it is open for business, but you can expect it around 11:55.

      by ek hornbeck on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:03:50 PM PDT

  •  Now Open for Business. n/t

    by ek hornbeck on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 08:57:24 PM PDT

•  How about an UNRECOMMEND button

  I am sick of candidate diaries.  Not one on the rec list deals with McCain and his many gaffes today.

  It's cool and all to bash our frontrunners, but I think FOx and them are doing a good enough job for us.  

  How about it?  One button for TUs?

  by SemDem on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:22:44 PM PDT

  •  We don't have enough...

    partisan gangs of vigilantes roaming the site?

    What if it was your candidate?

    by ek hornbeck on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:24:20 PM PDT

    •  It's a good point

      but, you know... things are heating up regarding the economy and Iraq, and I'd like to find a way to increase exposure to that stuff instead.

      by bhagamu on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:30:58 PM PDT

      •  Some Sort of "Recommended" CATEGORIES

        might be useful, although that would be tricky. Like "Health Care," "Environment," "Strategy," "Candidates," "Pooties," etc.

        by Uthaclena on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:55:10 PM PDT

        •  You are recommending...

          content "ghettos".

          If you desire to see only particular kinds of content bookmark a tag, but don't force your narrowness of vision on the rest of us.

          by ek hornbeck on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:02:22 PM PDT

          •  I'm Thinking More Along the Lines of

            newspaper sections; Business, Entertainment, International... and, jeez, it was just a stray thought thrown out in response to a comment, "force your narrowness of vision," too much coffee??

            by Uthaclena on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:11:38 PM PDT

            •  It is a bone of contention...

              on this site and it has been for 3 years, between those who seek to fragment and divide and limit and those who think noise is signal.

              by ek hornbeck on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:57:31 PM PDT

              •  Wasn't Aware of that Controversy

                Would I be correct then to assume that those with the latter perspective feel that "organization" or filtering of the content is viewed as entirely in the domain of the users? i.e., 'You don't like Candidate Diaries, don't read 'em?' which I completely agree with.

                by Uthaclena on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 08:18:22 PM PDT

                •  Exactly.

                  There are lots of tools, but for the most part, if you just set your 'Recent Diaries' to 50, you can use your eyes and the titles and the back button on your browser.

                  by ek hornbeck on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 08:43:35 PM PDT

                •  It's not just--don't read them

                  The Rec list is widely read by people--including Daily Show, CNN, etc.  All they see now is Dem candidate-bashing.  Which is why Fox News proudly proclaims that if either candidate wins, then a good portion of the other's supporters won't vote for him/her.  They love to showcase the DIVISION and make that mainstream news.

                  If there was an UNREC button, then that means Obama/Clinton supporters can UnRec a diary smearing their candidate--and McCain diaries, war diaries, economy, etc. can get Recommended.

                  by SemDem on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 10:12:54 AM PDT

  •  Dan Abrams

    was going to go after "Teflon John" on today's show -- but when his first topic was on Clinton bringing up Wright and one of the panelists was Lanny Davis, I had to change the channel so I could save my appetite for dinner.

    You might want to take a look at MSNBC Video later and see if they've got the segment up.

    by Cali Scribe on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:26:01 PM PDT

    •  he tried to make a point that

      she was mixing up incidents. he talked about her being helicoptered into somewhere and it being an honest mistake. over all though he was pretty subdued. he realized it was better just to keep his mouth shut unlike the dude on hardball.

      by Liberal Youth on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:34:01 PM PDT

    •  lanny

      didn't actually get much airtime in comparison with the other two guests, who were both pretty anti-hill.

      by the disinfector on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 05:57:12 AM PDT

  •  There should be a third section

    1. Recommended Diaries

    2. Recommended CANDIDATE Diaries

    3. Diaries

    When submitting a diary, you need to say whether it's about a specific candidate, or not.

    by cartwrightdale on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:26:05 PM PDT

  •  We need more McCain mockery on Dkos!

    

    by Sam Loomis on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:34:13 PM PDT

    •  The Hills Have Eyes?

      ....serious high camp

      by jds1978 on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:50:20 PM PDT

      •  Negative

        Toxic Avenger.

        My Bad

        by jds1978 on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:50:53 PM PDT

    •  McCain/Chunk 2008! (n/t)

      by Spunkmeyer on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:56:27 PM PDT

  •  There's an easier solution

    Don't read candidate diaries.

    by Dump Terry McAuliffe on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:35:01 PM PDT

    •  Why that won't work

      The Rec list is widely read by people--including Daily Show, CNN, etc.  All they see now is Dem candidate-bashing.  Which is why Fox News proudly proclaims that if either candidate wins, then a good portion of the other's supporters won't vote for him/her.  They love to showcase the DIVISION and make that mainstream news.

      If there was an UNREC button, then that means Obama/Clinton supporters can UnRec a diary smearing their candidate--and McCain diaries, war diaries, economy, etc. can get Recommended.  

      by SemDem on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 10:14:34 AM PDT

  •  I Suggested Two Months Ago

    repeatedly in comments, please create a separate Presidential Primaries section.  I have to go elsewhere to get the latest political "underreported" news, sometimes.  Can't wait until the primaries are finally over.

    by norm on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:41:04 PM PDT

•  she's clothed and wearing make-up?

  What does that have to do with anything?

  by desmoinesdem on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:23:05 PM PDT

  •  Its gotta be tiresome <n/t>

    by huckleberry on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:26:01 PM PDT

    •  Pie Fights.

      by ROGNM on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:30:19 PM PDT

  •  At the end of the 3 a.m. ad

    She is nicely groomed sitting at a desk, working by lamplight.  That's all.

    (My real question - why is that woman checking on the children at 3 a.m. dressed in a shirt and dockers?)

    by texasmom on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:27:28 PM PDT

    •  domestic fantasy #1

      man gets home form job at the __, wife is vacuming with one hand holding a Martini, she's got pearls on, slightly above the knee formfitting dress and stockings.

      "oh darling the filet Mignon is on the grille, it'll be ready in 10 minutes, dirty martini and a foot rub?"

      The stepford connotation sorta springs out a bit dunnit?

      by Salo on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:43:12 PM PDT

    •  Undocumented Nanny's Home with Kids n/t

      by Into The Woods on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 07:04:49 PM PDT

  •  lol

    well the subtext of the election for one thing...

    by Salo on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:27:35 PM PDT

    •  How do you spell

      touche?  tuche?  tooche?

      I thought the campaign was about competence and ready on day one...

      by huckleberry on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:32:08 PM PDT

      •  Touche <n/t>

        by jds1978 on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:51:55 PM PDT

        •  Test Taking

          Always go with your first instinct.  Thanks.

          by huckleberry on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 06:56:28 PM PDT

          •  Touché!