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Open Thread for Night Owls & Early Birds

Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 09:59:04 PM PDT

Jeremy Brecher, Tim Costello and Brendan Smith at The Nation write:

How Green Is Your Collar?

In the short run, the Bush Administration stands in the way, but major federal legislation this year or next is almost a foregone conclusion--and the carbon market it will establish will generate hundreds of billions of dollars a year and create thousands, even millions, of new jobs. But the realities of how Americans will work and what jobs they will have in a green future are only beginning to be addressed.
Nearly 1,000 trade unionists, environmentalists, green businesspeople, political leaders and allies came together recently in Pittsburgh to explore these issues at the first annual conference on " Good Jobs, Green Jobs," sponsored by the Blue-Green Alliance of the United Steelworkers Union and the Sierra Club.

It has taken labor a long time to address the threat of global warming--the AFL-CIO even lobbied against the Kyoto Protocol. It doesn't help when environmentalists don't stand up to insist on protecting workers from the pain that may accompany environmental protections. But all that may be changing. For example, the AFL-CIO Executive Council issued a statement March 4 on "greening the economy" that said, "It is time for our nation to take bold steps to meet the 21st century challenges related to climate change."

There are both risks and opportunities for labor in the shift to a green economy. For coal miners, for example, restrictions on greenhouse gas emissions might mean real job losses, and many environmentalists are deeply concerned by the insistence by some union leaders on continuing a coal-based economy. But for Midwestern steelworkers, the building of parts for wind turbines is already a source of thousands of jobs....

To win labor support, the push for green jobs will have to provide, if not guaranteed unionization, at least a guarantee of labor rights. Writer and former National Writers Union president Jonathan Tasini, blogging about the conference, complained, "Environmentalists and other policy folks have gotten the lingo down about 'high-wage, good-paying' jobs, but they still don't seem to be able to use the word 'union' consistently." He praised as an exception one speaker who said that green jobs generated with public monies have to include commitments of neutrality in union recognition campaigns.

Thanks for the memories:

Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, March 11, 2003 – "The Iraqi people understand what this crisis is about. Like the people of France in the 1940s, they view us as their hoped-for liberator. They know that America will not come as a conqueror. Our plan – as President Bush has said – is to remain as long as necessary and not a day more."

Vanity Fair writer Christopher Hitchens on Jan. 28, 2003: "This will be no war – there will be a fairly brief and ruthless military intervention. ... The president will give an order. [The attack] will be rapid, accurate and dazzling ... It will be greeted by the majority of the Iraqi people as an emancipation. And I say, bring it on."

Hours until Mister Bush leaves the White House: 7149

Direct cost per hour of the Iraq occupation: $16.68 million

The Overnight News Digest is posted.

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  •  Great Obama spoken word! (8+ / 0-)

    Brought to my attention by this diary:
    http://www.dailykos.com/...

    Go give the diarist tips!

    Sen. McCain, it's not your turn either.

    by Hope08 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:06:48 PM PDT

    •  Great words == great ideas. (0+ / 0-)

      People who do not like clear thinking will not like O'Bama.

      Our favorite Crazy Aunt is typical of that crowd.

      BTW: reading through the Tuzla section of "Living History" tells me that she believes what she has been saying.

      Snipers in the hills. A straight down landing for the plane. The whole bit about being rushed away to the base....

      Hillary is not lying. She is delusional.

      No wonder she and her core supporters, quite literally, hate the clear and calm ideas from Barack Obama.

      Dixie Chicks, Amy Winehouse, Imus, and Rev. Wright. Overcome our evil with good.

      by vets74 on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 04:23:30 AM PDT

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  •  The important questions... (4+ / 0-)

    I've yet to see Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton really answer the important questions on my mind, like did they think making Chief Tyrol, Colonel Tigh, et all, turn out to be Cylons was really necessary. Or how they'll punish Fox for what they did to Firefly. Or, perhaps, if they prefer the lolrus or the lolcat.

    Once these important questions are answered, I will feel more confident in pledging my support to a candidate.

  •  Really, only 7149 more hours? That doesn't seem (11+ / 0-)

    as awful as the number of days for some reason. Please, nobody vote for McCain. No protest votes or believing he wouldn't be as bad as Bush.

    The sound of several slobbering horses scarfing up sticky rotting persimmons is fairly disgusting! klk

    by flumptytail on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:09:43 PM PDT

  •  If I see one more (0+ / 0-)

    "Soldier rescues Iraqi dog" story, my head is f---ing going to explode.  Is the Army doing anything other than rescuing dogs?  

  •  Christopher Hitchens is a wooden tool. (11+ / 0-)

    Who is pulling his strings anyways?

    I like your focus on uniting enviro and labor efforts MB.

    As for putting my money where my mouth is:  yes I have.  Now I get all these annoying fundraising emails/mailers.  :-P

    We have become what they fear.

    by tecampbell on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:14:49 PM PDT

  •  There will not be "labor" (3+ / 0-)

    support for carbon control legislation, nor will there be "business" opposition to it.

    Carbon control legislation will be beneficial for the economy as a whole if done right, but will create winners and losers among both business and labor.

    Losers, such as mineworkers, oil and coal companies, certain utilities, the UAW and Big Three automakers, will oppose this kind of legislation.
    This will be true whether business or labor and regardless of any commitment to support unionization in green jobs.

    •  There will be labor support for any program that (2+ / 0-)

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      creates jobs. It just may not be a monolithic endorsement (AFL-CIO). The Trades Crafts (Laborers, Carpenters, Operating Engineers, etc.) will be on board, but i agree there will be considerable resistance from the UMWA.
      The UAW? Depends on whether or not domestic automakers wake up and retool.

      I belong to no organized political party, I'm a Democrat. -Will Rogers

      by geez53 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 11:32:52 PM PDT

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      •  I wonder why the Automakers (2+ / 0-)

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        and the Dems don't get together.  Agree to a national Health Plan that eliminates the automakers' liability on healthcare, but also gets the mileage standards we need.  They have to see the handwriting on the wall, so why not make a deal now?

        In an insane society, the sane man would appear insane

        by TampaCPA on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 04:07:40 AM PDT

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  •  Related to green jobs... (4+ / 0-)

    Does anyone here know of a good place to search for environmental jobs?  Most of the web sites I find have very few jobs and they were posted months ago.

    I'm an experienced (and very motivated) program/project manager that would love to move to a more green company and industry.  It is starting to feel like I'd need to identify potential companies by searching them out individually.

    Is what I am doing *right now* leading to happiness?

    by jbdigriz on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:15:23 PM PDT

  •  I'm sorry but I'm with Kunstler. (3+ / 0-)

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    Not only do I think that "the revolution will not be televised" but I think that "back to basics" may be an understatement.

    The idea of giving MORE to a system that has proved itself a failing device is ludicrous (maybe ludicricious) as we are wont to bubbles.

    No. I am not giving to this or that.

    I am thinking about how we organize as local communities whence the Big Banks Fail.

    Nice idea. Long time coming.
    Next era.

    Peace with shelter and food for locals,

    Kunstler

    If you dance with the devil, then you haven't got a clue; 'Cause you think you'll change the devil, but the devil changes you. - illyia

    by illyia on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:15:30 PM PDT

    •  It was Gil Scott Heron who came up with ... (4+ / 0-)

      ..."the revolution will not be televised." As it so happens, his prediction may turn out to be wrong if a political revolution comes along to match the technological revolution that has produced YouTube and its imitators since he wrote those words 34 years ago.

      Like a cyclone, imperialism spins across the globe; militarism crushes peoples and sucks their blood like a vampire. K. Liebknecht

      by Meteor Blades on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:32:29 PM PDT

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      •  The Establishment is Just Now (1+ / 0-)

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        televising the present battle in its revolution.

        I can see Youtube sparking a minor revolution in home rule cultural governance issues where neither money nor empire are threatened.

        My bet is that a week from now it's becoming evident the establishment won their battle. Hope I'm wrong.

        We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

        by Gooserock on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:46:07 PM PDT

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    •  Interesting Paper (1+ / 0-)

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      Here is a paper that takes into account the declining availability of fossil fuels when calculating future global warming. Will Peak Oil save us from global warming? According to their results, it might if we also cut back on coal use.

      "We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men." Edward R. Murrow

      by aprichard on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 11:07:41 PM PDT

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    •  Glen Beck was on Larry King (1+ / 0-)

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      trying to explain why Social Security is going bust. Beck was truly pathetic as he tried to explain the workings of a program he has no idea about.
      His solutions was an across the board increase in FICA (40% for general fund and 124% for Medicare), increase the minimum retirement age substantially, and pare down benefits paid to current recipients.

      Beck betrayed the abysmal depths of his ignorance when he stated that the average worker can expect to live 19 years past his 65th birthday. Beck then said that SS is social insurance and no auto insurance carrier could afford to have 19% of their policyholders make claims each year. (the 19 must have come from the number of years survived post age 65)

      This is so wrong on so many levels that I have to wonder if Beck pays the network to provide him airtime. To be sure no competent CEO would pay someone a salary just to display ignorance and stupidity.
      Wait, it is the MSM.............  

      •  Beck is like keeping a slug for a pet. (0+ / 0-)

        He goes on the air and discredits each and every right Wing talking point.

        Its wonderful to see.

        Beck == the Colbert character with little charm.

        Dixie Chicks, Amy Winehouse, Imus, and Rev. Wright. Overcome our evil with good.

        by vets74 on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 04:51:10 AM PDT

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  •  Hitchens is pound for pound, delirium tremens (5+ / 0-)

    for delirium tremens, sneer for sneer, preen for preen, the most odious commentator around.

    "Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed." General Buck Turgidson

    by muledriver on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:15:58 PM PDT

    •  One of the few (0+ / 0-)

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      people I've seen who doesn't slur when drunk.  Noticed last time he was on Real Time he had an 'extra' cup on the table, didn't see him drink out of the water glass much.

      I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.

      by exMnLiberal on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 11:52:32 PM PDT

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      •  Comes from being pickled (1+ / 0-)

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        Chronic acute acoholism produces the phenomenon. I have seen men drink two or three cases of beer in an afternoon and appear on the whole, sober.

        It is only after the residual alcohol is flushed from their systems that we can see the intellectual effects of the disease.  That is why some people supposedly are not able to function without several belts under their belts.

        •  Alcohol also lowers blood oxygen level. (0+ / 0-)

          Effectively numbing these boozers for sexual performance.

          They're duds.

          The desire gets translated to a mental fantasy event, because physical performance is impossible.

          Hence, the vanity.

          Dixie Chicks, Amy Winehouse, Imus, and Rev. Wright. Overcome our evil with good.

          by vets74 on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 04:53:44 AM PDT

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  •  I'm glad the blue and the green (9+ / 0-)

    are starting to work together. They need each other and there's no way around it going forward. Thank gawd.

    I donated this election year to two candidates. One of them being John Edwards ;) I'll probably donate a little more...but seriously...it's pennies...maybe gets translated into a box of donuts for staff after the credit card companies take their share.

    Edwards Democrats and Progressives Unite! Visit us at EENR Blog

    by sarahlane on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:16:45 PM PDT

  •  Building transit systems (6+ / 0-)

    would open up jobs to the steel workers and auto industry if they want to get in on a design for new Light Rail vehicles and streetcars

    It's Electric - http://www.theoverheadwire.com

    by The Overhead Wire on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:17:10 PM PDT

  •  PETA's making flash games now (3+ / 0-)

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    It's kind of a weird and creepy one though.

    McCain '08, not the reanimated corpse of Ronald Reagan, but nearly as lifelike.

    by Hannibal on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:19:53 PM PDT

  •  re poll: Contributing to progressives is ok (5+ / 0-)

    Contributing to the Democratic Party in general is not a good idea in my eyes. If they would've made ending the war their top priority in Congress, and investigated the crimes of the Bush Administration, it might have been different.

  •  I wish there was an option for those of us who (6+ / 0-)

    have given exactly $50...

    All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

    by anna789 on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:30:00 PM PDT

  •  Torture: an unwise decision. (4+ / 0-)

    The destruction of evidence: here.

    1-20-09 The Darkness Ends "Where cruelty exists, law does not." ~ Alberto Mora

    by noweasels on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:37:15 PM PDT

  •  Hey folks, (5+ / 0-)

    please consider Rec'ing this diary.

    Let's give back to Walmart what they justly deserve for their evil.

    We have become what they fear.

    by tecampbell on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:38:20 PM PDT

  •   Portable PowerCube Produces Renewable Energy (6+ / 0-)

    The PowerCube is portable solar generator which produces energy without emissions, heat or noise. The developer of the one ton device is called Reluminati and you can buy it for about $25,000. You might wonder what makes it so portable although it weighs one ton. Well, if you dispose of a forklift then you won’t have any problem with the solar generator that measures 6×4x4 feet.

    The PowerCube produces 600 watts of continuous energy with the help of three solar panels and six Marine 200 Amp batteries. The components of the device are very safe and the design is innovative, also if you want more power you can link one cube to another to form a chain of power.

    http://www.ecofuss.com/...

  •  Please read and rec (3+ / 0-)

    this powerful diary by noweasels:

    Torture: An "unwise decision"

    Thank you.

    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.... Voltaire

    by Ekaterin on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:56:52 PM PDT

  •  I was wondering about why Hillary has been (1+ / 0-)

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    appearing on Fox and doing interviews for uber-rightwing newspapers.  The only thing I could think of is maybe she is trying to show that Republicans are voting for her because they got to know her and they like her, not because Limbaugh told them to muddy up our primary.

    Does anyone have a better explanation?

    -7.50, -7.74 --I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson

    by GMFORD on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 10:58:35 PM PDT

    •  Why Hillary does it... (2+ / 0-)

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      vets74, GMFORD

      Because she contains potassium benozate.

      That's bad.

      •  And she's running for V.P. -- McCain's V.P. (1+ / 0-)

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        Hillary has been helping McCain more than anybody else, including McCain himself.

        McCain/Clinton versus O'Bama/Bloomberg.

        Given how crazy Hillary has become -- believing her delusions about Tuzla, SCHIP, CP, etc. -- pairing up with McCain ain't totally impossible.

        Bloomberg ??? The best manager and policy analyst among the major politicians.

        (Plus, I gotta love the idea of black/brown and a Jew "taking over the country." My Daddy's friends will do be spinnin' in their graves. Worst hit on White Supremacist Jew-haters since Tiger Woods won the Masters by a zillion in 1997 -- shooting 18-under-par.)

        Dixie Chicks, Amy Winehouse, Imus, and Rev. Wright. Overcome our evil with good.

        by vets74 on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 05:15:07 AM PDT

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    •  Murdoch Did Her a Fundraiser, and Limbaugh (3+ / 0-)

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      has been turning out significant numbers of Republican voters for her since OH/TX.

      And she needs to correct the interim trends.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 12:27:30 AM PDT

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  •  Brooks claims McCain's foreign policy is 'tested' (2+ / 0-)

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    TampaCPA, geez53

    He forgot to finish the sentence "...and has failed the test of being in US national interest".

    David Brooks bases most of his case on McCain's part in the Iraq war disaster, glossing over that McCain was totally wrong on WMD, Iraq/911 and Iraq/al Qaeda and arguing that McCain was grousing about Bush/Rumsfeld/Cheney/Rice tactics and execution and that somehow makes up for McCain being a leading cheerleader for the worst military and national security mistake in the last 50 years.

    •  Isn't Brooks batting 1.0000 now? (0+ / 0-)

      By that I mean, he hasn't even managed a weak foul or popup or even laid down a bunt; he is consistently and terribly wrong.

      •  Actually Brooks has some good hits... (0+ / 0-)

        He had a good column on Obama and why he was likely to be the transformational force for Democrats that Reagan was for Republicans.

        He also had a good one on the Clintons and why they were hanging on even though their own staff gives them a slim 5% chance of overtaking Obama.

  •  Make carbon power obsolete, build ZEBs (0+ / 0-)

    The real green revolution will happen when we make homes that require zero energy from the grid:  The ZEB buildings are the way of the future.  They have already been built and can be built here!

    We need to use zoning to promote these... No need to make power plants green, make 'em obsolete!

    PS Some unusual future energy sources: Clothing , Rain

  •  Ooh, we're having a thunderstorm here with (3+ / 0-)

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    lightning. I love lightning.

    The sound of several slobbering horses scarfing up sticky rotting persimmons is fairly disgusting! klk

    by flumptytail on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 11:02:05 PM PDT

    •  One of the 2 Parts of Rust Belt I Miss Here (1+ / 0-)

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      in Puget Sound. Not the lightning specifically, being a sailor. But those storms on the Great Lakes are the highest drama I'll ever ride through. Well, prior to the coming Blackwater revolution.

      The interplay of humid Gulf of Mexico air, cold Canadian infusions, and occasional SW desert winds and Atlantic NE'ers, was like a pulse to me, while this n-western oceanic climate is like living on a rotary artificial heart.

      It was mom who taught me to love and not fear those midwest thunderstorms when I was frightened as a preschooler.

      --On the other hand, forecast for tomorrow here is partly whales.

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      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 12:25:02 AM PDT

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  •  I'm a little disturbed. (1+ / 0-)

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    I have known for some time that my older child shares the same birthdate with George H. W. Bush.  I consoled myself by thinking that at least it wasn't the other George Bush.  But I just now discovered (while watching a Letterman rerun) that my younger child has the same birthdate as Cheney!  Gack!  

    Interestingly, it is also FDR's birthday.  How's that for historical irony?  Anyway, just for giggles, check out this "famous birthday" website:

    Famous Birthdays

    Pretty fun.

  •  Post-primary, pre-November Ennui. (0+ / 0-)

    Ah, the tedium of mopping up spilt Hillary.  I'm sorry to say I don't have the stomach or the patience for it.  Assuming nothing goes spectacularly awry, Obama has proven himself stronger than the considerable power of institutional inertia, and now must prove his resiliency in the face of fickle public attention between the pre-convention Hillary mop-up and D-Day into the campaign proper.  Every step of the way is a new test, and so far he has passed each with extraordinary agility, but now is the interregnum - the  test of a candidate's ability to remain focused in an environment that breeds confusion and lethargy.  And, we must remember, every test he endures is also a test of his supporters - that we must pass at his side.

    Freedom is in the fight.

    by Troubadour on Thu Mar 27, 2008 at 11:05:27 PM PDT

  •  Obama's Failure to Release His Own Records (0+ / 0-)

    Sen. Obama has not released any records from his time in the state senate:

    Obama: ‘I don’t have, I don’t maintain a file of eight years of work in the state Senate because I didn’t have the resources available to maintain those kinds of records.’ He added, ‘It could have been thrown out. I haven’t been in the state Senate now for quite some time.’ [CBS, 11/14/07]
    Obama: ‘I had one staff person that was what was allocated. I don’t have archivists in the state Senate. I don’t have the Barack Obama state Senate library available to me, so we had a bunch of file cabinets. I do not have a whole bunch of records from those years.’ [Chicago Sun Times, 11/10/07]
    Sen. Obama touts his new decision to disclose his U.S. Senate earmarks but he refuses to release all earmarks from his time in the state senate:

    Obama has been silent on non-federal earmarks he secured while serving in State Senate. "Sen. Barack Obama is open about the pet projects he’s tucked into federal legislation, but it’s a different story when it comes to the extra spending he added to state budgets while serving in the Illinois Legislature.... When Obama served in the state Legislature, from 1997 until late 2004, it was routine for money to be added to the annual budget for lawmakers to dole out. In most years, this was done without any public record of which legislator was sponsoring which grant, leaving no way to tell how Obama used his share of the money. [AP, 3/13/08]
    Sen. Obama will not release the name of the broker who managed his controversial ’semi-blind’ trust:

    Obama refuses to name the UBS broker that purchased the stocks in his ‘quasi-blind’ trust. "Obama had about $100,000 he wanted to invest in 2005. The money was a portion of the $1.2 million he got from a book contract. He said Wednesday he decided the $100,000 could be put into something "more high risk" and asked a friend to recommend a stock broker. That friend was donor George W. Haywood, who held what the New York Times called "major" positions in the two stocks Obama ended up owning, Skyterra and AVI BioPharma.... Obama declined to name the UBS broker." [Sweet column, Chicago Sun-Times, 3/8/07]
    Sen. Obama will not disclose what cases he worked on that involved Tony Rezko or his companies:

    Obama campaign has not released which cases Obama worked on involving Rezko/Rezmar. "Asked what Rezko cases Obama worked on, Miner (a firm partner) told the Sun-Times, ‘We’ll put together a list of the cases he worked on involving Rezko/Rezmar in the next day or two.’ That was March 13 [2007]. He never provided the information." [Chicago Sun-Times, 4/23/07]
    Sen. Obama has not released his tax returns, except for 2006:

    Obama has only released 2006 tax returns, ‘as for pre-2006 or 2007 returns, Burton says he ‘will keep you posted.’ Obama released his 2006 tax returns and said, ‘That’s been a policy I’ve maintained consistently. I think the American people deserve to know, you know, where you get your income from.’ "But it’s not as though all Obama’s returns from his entire time as a US Senator are available. Will Obama release all of those returns or, next month, his 2007 tax returns?...As for any pre-2006 or 2007 returns, Burton says he ‘will keep you posted.’" [ABC, 3/9/08]

    UPDATE: Sen. Obama has now released his tax returns from 2000 to 2006. But unlike Hillary, he has failed to release his returns prior to 2000.

    •  Boring (2+ / 0-)

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      I identify three things in your post:

      1. The IL state senate doesn't keep any records, and Obama didn't go the extra mile to keep his own personal records just in case he ran for President someday and people might conceivably ask for them.
      1. He won't name his broker.  I don't understand why he should name his broker.  All a broker does is say how money should be invested and puts through the trades.  And what's controversial about that?  Should he be held responsible for his broker?  Should you be responsible for the guy managing your pension fund?  Because he's a possibly an even more evil fund-manager.
      1. All of your links come from the Chicago Sun-Times, who have this to say about Barack Obama:

      The senator’s description of his relationship with Rezko is entirely plausible...
      So, candor — though delayed — gives us a clearer view.

      And friendship — tested but not abandoned — looks more like a virtue than a fault.

      And also:

      I don’t think anybody at this newspaper can make the claim any longer that he hasn’t answered our inquiries after an exhaustive 80-minute interview session Friday evening. I won’t.

      He patiently took all comers, and, when it was over, the biggest outstanding question was why he hadn’t done so sooner.

      Can't you find something new for us to refute?  All this stuff about Rezko and money is getting really boring.  

    •  Do you do Rush's transcription too? (0+ / 0-)

      or just take the talking points off his website. This week, all we have had is his high pitched whine about lies, more lies and liars.

      Do you have any specific examples of impropriety? Most brokers who do hold any sort of funds do frequently find themselves recommending a stock which may be held by a fund which he owns.  Check out any mutual's list of investments and for a stockbroker to be prohibited from owning any stock in any company that is in a personally held fund would mean brokers would be unable to invest themselves.

  •  Tonight KQED (2+ / 0-)

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    aired and outstanding Program Unnatural Causes investigating the social determinants of health.  It is an excellent example of why, at the end of our Primary, we really need a Democrat back in charge.  We have numerous policy changes to reverse the corporatization of our government, and prevent further Supreme Court takeover by the super ruling elite.

    It worth a watch.

    I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.

    by exMnLiberal on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 12:11:07 AM PDT

  •  wikileak photos of tiben protests (0+ / 0-)

    http://wikileaks.org/...

    and some videos in there too... Oh, and a warning about the photos: Extremely graphic.

    Mickey Mouse has grown up a cow.

    by soros on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 12:32:09 AM PDT

  •  BREAKING: Bob Casey to endorse Barack Obama (4+ / 0-)

    fivethirtyeight.com: electoral projections done right.

    by poblano on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 12:37:15 AM PDT

    •  Excellent! (0+ / 0-)

      "Too often we... enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." - John F. Kennedy

      by redstatebluegirl on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 12:45:06 AM PDT

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      •  I'd argue it's almost a first-tier endorsement (2+ / 0-)

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        Short of Edwards and Gore, it's hard to think of a more important potential endorser at this stage, in part because Casey is very popular with the voters with whom Obama has polled poorly in Pennsylvania, and in part because it's so completely unexpected.  There was ZERO buzz about this, so far as I was aware.  Even better, he's actually going to be barnstorming with Obama in addition to the endorsement.

        fivethirtyeight.com: electoral projections done right.

        by poblano on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 12:50:20 AM PDT

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    •  shocking (0+ / 0-)

      I am absolutely shocked by this.  His demographic fits right in with the Demographic that Clinton has been doing so well in.  Older, white, blue-collar voters.

      This should be a major boost to Obama.  I mean, if after all the bruhaha over Rev. Wright, Casey comes out before the primary and publically endorses Obama, it should help allay the fears of some of those older voters who have not yet warmed to him.

      I actually have a little more respect for Casey now.

      Or course, the cynic in me is also viewing this as political payback for 1992.  Bill Clinton prevented his father from speaking at the Convention to offer alternating views on abortion (the Caseys are staunch Catholics).  But, Clinton has made a lot of enemies in the last 16 years and all of this has to be weighed on her candidacy.  
      I wonder how long before Carville makes his next Judas comment

      Stagflation, here we come

      by smoosh21 on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 05:39:01 AM PDT

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  •  Next Up: Jeremiah Wright's Retirement House (1+ / 0-)

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    Fox will be pushing the very nice house the church is building for Wright in the suburbs, but I'm not linking to it to try to avoid the "concern troll" accusations.

    Just a heads-up.

    We have no intention of prosecuting Rush Limbaugh because lying through your teeth and being stupid isn't a crime.

    by The Baculum King on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 12:43:28 AM PDT

    •  I hope they do (1+ / 0-)

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      and then put up pictures of the digs enjoyed by such luminaries as the Roberts or Robertsons or any number of televangelists.

      Then they can start discussing if the undertone of the message is that the house is too nice for a Black man.

  •  maria bartiromo interview with Obama (1+ / 0-)

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    Mickey Mouse has grown up a cow.

    by soros on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 12:48:30 AM PDT

  •  MTV's Tabitha Soren landed at Tuzla 6 weeks befor (0+ / 0-)

    She was the hip, politically aware VJ back in the day. Anyway, she went to the same airfield as The Hectoring Cunt. She points out that the C-17 is fitted with kevlar floors and fuselage. No need to "sit on your flak jacket." It just keeps getting more ridiculous.

    I got this from Al Giordano at The Field.., over at "Rural Votes"

  •  Richardson Wiki-vandalism (0+ / 0-)

    I just discovered vandalism at Bill Richardson's Wikipedia page and reported it. It may be changed by the time anyone looks, but I blogged about it and included screencaps at Communicative Action. Take a look. Damn James Carville!