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Edwards Donors Prefer Obama

Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 02:10:42 PM PDT

I know it's kind of skimpy but...

...will John Edwards endorse Obama based on the will of his donors?

John Edwards' former donors broke toward Barack Obama by a 2-to-1 margin over Hillary Rodham Clinton in February, the first full month after Edwards dropped out of the Democratic presidential nomination fight.

The analysis by CQ MoneyLine identified 287 former Edwards contributors who donated to Obama for the first time during his record-breaking $56 million month. Collectively, though, the former Edwards donors amounted to a small fraction of Obama's haul, sending in $200,000. In comparison, Clinton banked $114,000 from 138 Edwards donors who had not given to her in past months as she piled up a personal-best $35 million in February.

"I looked at both the candidates and basically the reason I chose to shift allegiance over to Obama was how I perceived his message of hope," said San Diego lawyer Blake Muir Harper.

"One of the things I think is wrong with our country is that the people have been left behind by big business, big corporations, big government, big everything. We need a return to 'We the people,' no exceptions. From my perspective, Obama seems to be more aligned with the people's interest rather than big corporate interests and government interests," he said. "Whereas Hillary is, to me, a vote more for the same old, same old, politics as usual."

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  •  Yeah - I'm gonna send him an email and say (6+ / 0-)

    he can forward all the money I donated to the Edwards campaign to Obama - and give his endorsement to Obama too!

    "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK

    by moose67 on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 02:19:34 PM PDT

  •  That's right (0+ / 0-)

    I was trying to remember who I gave money to this cycle, and I forgot (J.) Edwards!

  •  I Just Look To This (2+ / 0-)

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    Young people, young people, young people .....

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    by webranding on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 02:23:28 PM PDT

  •  based on their analysis, I wouldn't count (0+ / 0-)

    I was an Edward's backer, but sprinkled small donations to a few candidates (e.g. Dodd, Obama) as a reward for doing something I liked.  After Edwards was gone, I went big for Obama.  But since it wasn't my "first", I'm not in the 287 number.

    It wouldn't surprise me if there are others in the same situation.

  •  data is nice, but, thanks for the flash gordon. (0+ / 0-)

    we'll stand him up against a wall and pop goes the weasel /rufus t. firefly

    by 2nd balcony on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 02:28:36 PM PDT

  •  No surprise, this site was mostly for Edwards (1+ / 0-)

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    lams712

    I was too, and most broke hard for Obama.

    Some went to Clinton of course, and a few (hard to understand them) "still" claim to be for Edwards and exist in some sort of alternate reality where they can pretend to be morally pure. (in an alternate reality I'm for Gore too).

    Edwards, like Clinton, perhaps wants to run again in 2012. I'm disappointed in him somewhat, but we'll see.

    Enough triangulation, calculation & equivocation... regular politics won't do... so tired of bull that only the truth can provide relief - Molly Ivins on Hillary

    by Judgment at Nuremberg on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 02:31:16 PM PDT

    •  And some have no preference, (2+ / 0-)

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      david mizner, carllaw

      which si a legitimate moral position and no alternate universe at all.  

      "They're going to give their power away when we take their power away." John Edwards

      by TomP on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 02:34:50 PM PDT

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      •  This notion (1+ / 0-)

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        carllaw

        that Obama is vastly more progressive or antiestablishment than Clinton evaporates in the face of the facts.

        But hey, I suppose we can allow these people their delusions.

        •  Corporate lobbyists are people too. (0+ / 0-)

          That's the difference.  Obama recognizes the problem.  Hillary embraces the status quo.  She'll never work to change it - it's where she gets most of her money.  Corporate lobbyists gave Clinton his limited power while president and they give HIllary her power now.

          "We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the United States of America." Barack Obama

          by keeplaughing on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 03:37:09 PM PDT

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        •  at this point (0+ / 0-)

          the progressive position is to fucking win and build the party, not tear it apart.

          Fooling around with division and Clinton is not the progressive position.

          To me, it's a very easy choice at this point. Earlier, I concede that the choice would have been  closer.

          Enough triangulation, calculation & equivocation... regular politics won't do... so tired of bull that only the truth can provide relief - Molly Ivins on Hillary

          by Judgment at Nuremberg on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 03:46:00 PM PDT

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  •  I was an Edwards supporter first (1+ / 0-)

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    lams712

    Although I never gave him any money this go around.  By the time he dropped out I was itching to hop on the Obama bandwagon.

    I really wish he would endorse Obama now and dive right into campaigning for him in rural Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Indiana.

  •  Well, I was an Edwards... (0+ / 0-)

    ...donor who then donated to Obama, and looking at the numbers (2 to 1 ratio) it doesn't really surprise me. It seems natural that a progressive campaign's supporters would go to the most progressive person remaining. What DOES surprise me is that Edwards has not endorsed Obama. If he just want to not get involved that would be understandable. If, however, he is actually considering HRC, then I don't know where is mind is.

    "...if my thought-dreams could be seen, they'd probably put my head in a guillotine...." {-8.13;-5.59}

    by lams712 on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 02:35:16 PM PDT

  •  Leave Edwards alone. (4+ / 0-)

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    I think he's extremely jealous of Obama.  (Sorry Edwards supporters, but that's what I think and I'm not alone.)  

    John knows nothing about who Obama is.  He did not work with him in the Senate, or anywhere, ever, and John was virtually living in Iowa for the years that Obama has been in DC.  

    John is limited enough to not understand how sophisticated Obama's strategy for winning something is.  For John and his amateur campaign, attacking everyone and everything back with vengeance is considered "fighting" whereas, as someone put it so well, Obama knows how to fight fire with water.  Given John's obvious lack of understanding of the concept, we can forgive his misconception that Obama is not a fighter.

    After six years in the Senate, Edwards could not win the endorsement of a single Senator.  Obama got two from the get-go after only two years in the Senate.  That must really have frosted Edwards.

    But John repeats the Clinton talking point that all Obama is is inspiration and speeches.  He does if affably, but he does it.  He has refused to say anything positive and substantial about Obama ever.  Yet, even if all one knows about Obama is how he beat Edwards so soundly, one has to recognize that he's at least a good campaigner.

    Each time Edwards opens his mouth about Obama, I hear, and see and feel, the jealousy.  Edwards is a narcissist and that makes it very hard for him to endorse Obama.  I think he was also counting on American racism, and that rug was pulled from under him, too.

    Give him time to lick his wounds.

    "We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the United States of America." Barack Obama

    by keeplaughing on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 02:38:11 PM PDT

    •  That's a good analysis. (1+ / 0-)

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      lisastar

      I also think that Eward's is holding back in case Clinton and Obama both implodes, then he can be the one to rescue the party.  That's why he suspended, and not ended his campaign.  He is still hoping to be viable.

      I also think that the reason he didn't endorse obama is because he had asked for a potential position in the Obama administration and was turned down.

      Obama doesn't want to make that kind of deals for an endorsement.  I heard Howard Fineman tell one of the shows (Chris Mathews or Joe) he was on that Edwards had asked Obama for a position and was adamantly turned down and that was after either NH or NV.

      So there may be some hard feeling from Edwards there.
      I don't have any proof, just a suspicion from things I've heard.

      Nothing can stand in the way of a million voices calling for change! - Obama

      by jalenth on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 02:46:34 PM PDT

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      •  I read that too, and an Edwards aide apparently (0+ / 0-)

        confirmed it.  But all these unnamed sources always make me cringe, really.  Still, Edwards himself said something like Obama didn't work hard enough for his endorsement.

        Obama promises nothing to any of his supporters.  He wants to be free to choose people who will do the best job, regardless of whom they supported in the primary.  If he promised something to someone just for supporting him, he could miss out on someone like Wes Clark, because he'd promised the position to someone else.

        I think he's right, and I approve!

        "We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the United States of America." Barack Obama

        by keeplaughing on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 03:21:36 PM PDT

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    •  My initial gut reaction (2+ / 0-)

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      was that you're way off base but after analyzing what you have to say I can't say you're wrong.  I was an Edward's supporter early in the campaign because I truly believed he'd had a life-changing experience with his wife's cancer and wasn't the plastic candidate I saw in 2004.

      However, his recent silence about the campaign abuse by Hillary is deafening and I'm beginning to feel a bit hoodwinked by John Edwards.  

      You'll catch a lot of flack from die-hard Edwards supporters for your post but I fully understand your distrust at this time because human nature says it's a possibility.  If you're right that his own narcissism is ahead of his loyalty to country and party then it truly is a sad day.  I'll continue to hope that there's something else that's driving his inaction but I have an open mind.  Politics makes people irrational.

      Let's hope you're wrong.

      "I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence" Doug McLeod

      by artmartin on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 02:48:21 PM PDT

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      •  Thanks. Don't get me wrong, though, I (0+ / 0-)

        think Edwards has a lot going for him and would have been and may someday still be a good president.  I fault his campaign for their mishandling of the haircut video, the charity story, and the hedge fund issue.  I think John's media team slept through the campaign.

        All the candidates are good ones this time, and they all have flaws and political risk factors.  Obmam's done a blazing job at campaigning.

        Politics IS irrational.  John and Elizabeth are obviously emotional people, and mostly that's a good thing.  No one anticipated an Obama.

        "We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the United States of America." Barack Obama

        by keeplaughing on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 03:28:04 PM PDT

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    •  No (2+ / 0-)

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      By all reliable accounts Edwards (like most strong progressives) has doubts about Obama's toughness and willingness to stand up to the GOP and corporate power, and why wouldn't he?

  •  I'd rather BHO get Gravel's endorsement. (0+ / 0-)

    Unlike Edwards/Clinton/Lieberman/DLC establishment, he uses his (questionable) judgement on the issues, not on what the polls say. He is honest and real, albeit a little batsh*t.  He is no phony Brect girl.

  •  I gave to Edwards. (2+ / 0-)

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    I felt he was the real deal. If he endorses Hillary (the corporate candidate) I will know I had him pegged all wrong. And I will never support him again. If I knew how to send that message to him, I would.

    John McCain '08 - Hope Less!

    by kitebro on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 02:52:40 PM PDT

  •  More talk today (0+ / 0-)

    about his leaning toward Hillary.  I guess Elizabeth is very upset that Obama "took his place" and is pushing him in Hillary's direction.  

    Now this is from Michael Sneed of the Chicago Sun-Times, and she's a sleazy gossip columnist.  But I've heard these rumblings before.  

    So the question is, can Edwards to damage to Obama with a Hillary endorsement in NC?

    By the way, I wrote him a week ago.  I'm trying to do something positive every day.  

    •  The Clintons leak these things when the chips (1+ / 0-)

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      carllaw

      are down.  This is at least the third time this rumor has surfaced.

      Remember when NPR was reporting that Richardson endorsed Clinton?

      "We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the United States of America." Barack Obama

      by keeplaughing on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 03:32:22 PM PDT

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  •  Have you ever thought (1+ / 0-)

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    that maybe Elizabeth needs him right now if she is not doing well.  He may be avoiding attention from the press for personal reasons

    "If any question why we died. Tell them, because our fathers lied".... Kipling

    by TNforkerry on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 03:12:08 PM PDT

    •  I think this may be part of it, too. (0+ / 0-)

      Why should he endorse?  He's got peace and quiet now.

      "We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the United States of America." Barack Obama

      by keeplaughing on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 03:33:35 PM PDT

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  •  While Sen. Clinton has (0+ / 0-)

    completely lost any chance of getting my vote, Sen. Obama has yet to earn it.

    HRC's tactics, "misstatements" and outright lies have been nothing short of disgusting.

    I voted for Edwards in the CA primary, and because I live in CA, I feel I have the "luxury" of not having to cast a vote for President, and it not cost any Dem the election.

    The rest of my family is voting for Obama now.

    I am fearful when I see people substituting fear for reason. -Klaatu

    by Guadalupe59 on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 03:37:56 PM PDT

  •  I personally broke for Hillary (1+ / 0-)

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    carllaw

    And will continue to contribute to her efforts out of my limited resources.  Edwards was the best choice, but Hillary is by far the most electable of the remaining candidates.  Furthermore, Obama would have no coattails or reverse coattails in many parts of the country.  In any case, we will all come together in the end.  And I think John and Elizabeth Edwards are doing just fine not endorsing anyone for now.  Obama should be pleased they aren't endorsing since Hillary is closer to the Edwards message.  This is just my humble opinion of course.  Oh, and here is an idea.  Why don't enough delegates abstain or vote for other candidates on the first ballot to throw the convention open to other candidates and other ideas.  It would make for great interest, and would not necessarily lead to a Democratic defeat.  Why are people so afraid of a contest anyway?

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