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In a slick move, Shiite cleric M. al Sadr ordered his forces off the streets in the Southern provinces of Iraq.  Though the Jaysh e Madhi is splintered, and there may be factions that do not obey the powerful cleric, al Jazeera is reporting that he has nonetheless ordered his troops to stand down.

Now this might seem a victory for al maliki, but I think you will agree that Maliki has been undercut here.  Who did the people listen to?  Maliki?  Hell no, they listened to Sadr.  Who has the people?  Sadr.  

We have been "faced," and this clever move by Sadr leaves us more isolated and alien than ever.  Let's jump.

Wingnut loons will scream that Sadr simply slinked away, with his tail tucked between his legs when he heard the US and British forces were coming to aid Maliki.  This is deceptive, and not even half correct.

Sadr has shown Maliki to be the puppet of the hated occupier.  The same occupier that however, inadvertantly, kills women and children and tortures even the innocent.

"Peace," such as it is there will return, things will go back to something closer to normal, but who brought the peace?  Was it Maliki and his Iranian backed militia and US puppet government, and with the threat of massive assaults from far superior firepower of the occupiers?  No, it was from the Iraqi Mullah-crat patriot M. al Sadr.  He spoke, people listened.  

Did Sadr waver in the face of Maliki's threats, militia, and the Iraqi forces? No, it was Maliki who wavered with his 10 day extension when Sadr's people held firm.  Who did people surrender their arms to?  Not Maliki's people, it was the other way around, Maliki's people surrendered to Sadr's people.

We saw this "face" move unfold so many times in Vietnam I was left physically ill by it.  In spite of the boozy, sexed out, haze many of us worked under and being young, single, carefree, and happily irresponsible, while at the same time doing our damndest for Uncle Sam's Air Force and our mission, we could not help but notice how a wanted village papa-san accused of helping Charles could simply tell people to stop and they would stop.  He accomplished more in one moment than the Marines we supported could accomplish in a week of fighting with hundreds of casualties!  

Sadr is doing this in Iraq, now.

Folks, we are in the fourth quarter of the game now.  We are not only losing, but have lost the peace completely.  Oh, we will kill more, destroy more, and posture more, have air supremacy, naval supremacy, artillery supremacy, arms supremacy, and on and on.  We will perhaps control the streets while we are physically there but our mission in Iraq has gone the wrong way, and as a Vietnam veteran it sends a cold shiver down my back to think that this insane occupation has come to this.

Maliki is stuck with us [as were Diem, Thieu, and Ky].  Sadr has the people.  Maliki is backed by Badr which has Iranian ties, Sadr reaches out to Arabs in an Arab land.  Jesus Christ what a horrible deja vu.

Wingers, Bushies, "in the tank" McCain media jerks, and other war whoopers will guffaw I am sure and point to innumerable google stops on how Operation Phoenix rendered the village anti-government het men powerless, but it was a lie for US consumption. In the end we were out manuevered and out faced by blood ties and family ties, and long time village traditions.  

We ended up supporting unpopular and corrupt local figures, or inept and incompetent puppets.  We are doing it again.

As I read diaries from John Soltz, and Brandon Friedman, and lesser known veterans of the current military adventure I am getting that sinking feeling.  As I read Professor Cole, and ICH, and al Jazeera, I see it happening again to a new generation, while the old men say, "So?"

The player in Iraq now is Sadr.  He has to have a Sunni counterpart.  Pray they do not reconcile until after our troops are out of there.

Senator and future President [I hope] Obama, end this idiotic occupation!    

Originally posted to boilerman10 on Sun Mar 30, 2008 at 11:24 AM PDT.

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  •  Alms for the troops! (11+ / 0-)

    Those poor guys are out there in a calamity.  Give them hope, a "care" package, and let them know you care.  But please do not patronize and schmooze them!  They deserve better.

    And as for the wingers, Bushies, and the war whooping jingoes, I think you know what to do with them.  Expose them at every opportunity, vote their backers out of office, and end this stupid Iraq occupation!

    Today, 3/30/08, 4007 Americans, and untold Iraqis are dead, tens of thousands more maimed. Bush lied, how soon before your family pays the price for that?

    by boilerman10 on Sun Mar 30, 2008 at 11:28:22 AM PDT

  •  I Forgot Who Said It, But (2+ / 0-)
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    boilerman10, truong son traveler

    some talking head on Real Time last year mentioned this is going to happen. "It could be next week, next year, or the next decade. But at some point we'll leave Iraq and then the various groups are going to fight it out. Whomever has the most guns and the biggest balls will win." I tend to agree this is going to happen. So unless we stay a 100 years like McCain suggests we ought to leave and let the Iraqis sort things out.

    Let us not forget New Orleans. Visit Project Katrina.

    by webranding on Sun Mar 30, 2008 at 11:38:32 AM PDT

  •  Peace won't return (0+ / 0-)

    Don't you recognize the pattern?  He's just buying time to re-arm.  Iraq is an endless conflict with no way for America to resolve it.

  •  In reading about Dith Pran passing today, (2+ / 0-)
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    boilerman10, truong son traveler

    I read about the Killing Fields which led to reading about Pol Pot which leads to this - our government has learned nothing.

    Once again we are propping up a puppet in a country we have no business being in that we destroyed illegally and hoping that this time - THIS time -  it will work. If anyone in the current administration had been to Viet Nam or Cambodia or Laos or ..., then maybe they would have recognized the pattern and done something different. Or not done it at all.

    In wine there is wisdom, in beer there is freedom, in water there is bacteria. Ben Franklin

    by nokkonwud on Sun Mar 30, 2008 at 01:23:02 PM PDT

  •  Support for our troops both home and abroad (0+ / 0-)

    assistance for returning troops requiring healthcare is projecting to be 263,000 in 2008 and 330,000 in 2009.

    YES WE Want them to come home. What we do to help them, when they do come home, is also very important.

    As they are working to truly win the hearts and minds of the people no matter the location they may serve, they have served well. This may require all of us to take the time to listen to the very people we hope to assist rather than the so called leaders of the different political factions, who may only be interested in their own agenda.

    Dealing with major Human Rights Abuse should be an important part of our ongoing efforts and this should never be lost in the national debate.

    •  Congressman Berman, please... (1+ / 0-)
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      truong son traveler

      We are not winning any hearts and minds in Iraq.

      We are engaged in an illegal occupation, and our sons and daughters are called upon to prosecute this adventure however damn reluctantly.

      Support?  Like McCain running from Jim Webb's bill, and why; is it because Jim is a Democrat?  Some help to our troops that is.

      Congressman Berman, we are beyond worrying if they served well, for they have, all things considered. But they have been horribly misused and I refuse to allow those who fomented this criminal outrage to get away with it.

      Congressman, you will either support war crimes investigations against the perpetrators of this outrage, or you will not.  Which is it sir?  There is no middle groud, and no third way.  You either support criminality, or you do not.

      Support for our sons and daughters is not a part of this situation.  Their misuse is however.  Where do you stand sir?

      Today, 3/30/08, 4007 Americans, and untold Iraqis are dead, tens of thousands more maimed. Bush lied, how soon before your family pays the price for that?

      by boilerman10 on Sun Mar 30, 2008 at 05:13:05 PM PDT

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      •  My guess is Berman wants a clean sweep (0+ / 0-)

        As do I. House, Senate, and Executive branch.

        Obama for sure. He is not about bring this country down, he is about building it up.

        That takes time.

        It will also take a majority in both the house and the senate.

        62 Million Americans Voted for this ongoing mess and in 2006 some starting to see a very small part of the truth and that awareness is growing little by little as they are willing to TRULY look and listen. Many are still very sold on the SURGE but the real question becomes who are we really supporting and WHY?  This they simply do not know or even begin to understand. They simply know they do not want to cut and run. This would simply mean defeat to them and they can not and will not see that happen. This would mean they have been wrong.

        Have you ever been wrong about anything?

        No imagine being wrong about something on this grand scale?

        All this while many feel they have taken the time to understand what TRULY really means, in my view they are simply way out in front of the average American on just what might really be going on in this very complex region. THIS BECAUSE IT MATTERS SO VERY MUCH. YES I UNDERSTAND THAT URGENT NEED.

        However once you might learn the TRUTH then you must be able to have the rest of the country agree with your findings in great detail.


        We The People, United for the Common Good, have much to do with regard to finding out what TRULY really means and sharing that insight.

        I do not believe any of these so called leaders speak for the people there, just as I do not believe so called leaders associated with many countries TRULY speak for their people. Is it possible to be fooled by those who say they speak for the people? If it is possible for 62 Million to be fooled here, why would it not be possible to fool people in another country?

        The people may not hate each other and the people may simply want peace. Is anyone really sitting down and talking to the people there? Is anyone in a leadership role TRULY making an effort to win hearts and minds?

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