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sixteen years ago tonight...

Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 10:29:35 PM PDT

i never saw her coming.

twenty five years old and looking not much more than half of that, and i knew, just knew, i had some sort of magnificent future laid out in front of me somewhere, i just had to walk into it: i felt certain that i would, just didn't know when.

so i waited.  

second semester of grad school, studying toward a master's in english...thought maybe i'd get a doctorate and try and find a job teaching college some day, but that was just a vague notion. honestly, i enrolled in the program out of boredom, i'd tired of writing about town council and school board meetings for the troy paper.

i couldn't find an even mildly interesting and decently paid job in the lethargic early '90's upstate ny economy, so i thought, what the hell, why not go to school, figured i might meet some like-minded people, people who liked to laugh and read and who had lefty politics and who thought the pixies kicked ass.

maybe i'd meet a cool woman to boot. wasn't having much luck in that department, what with nothing more than an unrequited love on my recent ledger.

&&&&

i sat sullenly in the back of my classes the first semester, i don't know why. didn't talk to a soul. a sullen boy posing as some sort of silent complicated loner, bullshit, yeah, but in our youth we seem to try out various personalities until we find one that fits, and that's the one i tried on as i started out my life as a grad student.

in that second semester i met this guy, scott, or rather, he met me. the opposite of sullen, downright boisterous, talkative, hyper almost, like a ten year old who'd drunk a little too much soda, mouth always running, and on the first day of some class or other he sat down next to me and started talking to me like he already knew me.

a week or two in to the new semester and he started working me over, c'mon, come out with us, a bunch of us go out to this bar ralph's every thursday night (a great name for a bar, i thought, since in my undergrad days we all used the term "ralph" to denote drunken vomiting), no, c'mon, dollar pints until midnight, we have a good time, a bunch of us go, awesome jukebox there and they have a bumper pool table, we have fun, c'mon, c'mon.

i demurred, repeatedly, but he kept at it.

so on thursday, march fifth, nineteen ninety two, there i stood, at about eight-thirty, nine o'clock at night, out on lark street, just outside the doors to amazing wok, staring out at the neon signs and the rain-slicked pavement, eating broccoli with garlic sauce with a plastic fork from a white quart-sized take-out container, thinking, yeah, maybe i'll head over to that bar tonight, why not, what the fuck else will i do tonight anyway, head home to the 'rents' place, open a bag of doritos, and watch seinfeld? why not go out?

it seemed an insignificant decision, about as life-altering as answering "wheat" when asked by a diner waitress, what kinda toast ya want, hon, wheat or white?

&&&&

about ten o'clock i opened the door to the bar. not a clue to my name that by opening that door i'd crossed my own little rubicon.

i opened the door and looked around. a decent enough place i though, divey yet with a bit of atmosphere, peanut shells all over the floor, exposed brick walls, sufficiently dim lighting, a long mirror behind the bar, plenty of cigarette smoke hanging in the air, and something good, can't remember what, blaring from the juke.

i opened the door and looked around for scott but i didn't see him, but i did see someone else, a woman wearing a black turtleneck underneath a black leather jacket, sporting long wavy red hair and flashing deep blue eyes. i thought of the line from the richard thompson song, "red hair and black leather, my favorite color scheme", i gave her a long look and then noticed her looking up, right at me, shit, nabbed in the act, must be rusty, she wasn't checking me out, too, was she?

it all turned out ok, i sat down at her table when i saw some guy who i'd spoken to a bit in another class, and the scott came over, and she said to me, you look exactly like this guy from my hometown, and when she said it i noticed she had an english accent, and i thought it kind of interesting that i looked exactly like some guy from another country, especially since i had no english blood in me.

&&&&

at the end of that night we all kind of scattered in various directions and me and scott wound up conversing on the corner of madison and new scotland, outside of ralph's. i admitted, with the help of several of those dollar pints, that i was glad i came out, i'd met a bunch of people, had a good time, it sure beat the shit outta seinfeld and doritos in my folks' living room.

he looked over at the red-haired girl and that guy who i sort of knew and said to me, they make a good couple, don't ya think? i thought, well, i dunno either of them well enough to make that call, but thank god i didn't shame myself by asking her for her number or something while we were all sat around that table.

somehow, against the longest of odds, against anything i could have possibly imagined while stood talking out on that street corner that night, i wound up married to the red-haired girl and best friends with the other guy.

&&&&

i had a serious obsession with a short story writer named raymond carver at the time. read everything he ever published, several times over. somewhere along the line he wrote, or maybe said in an interview, but i think he wrote it in a story:

"everything you do has consequences, brother."

i thought then that i knew what he meant. thought he was talking about the big stuff, the big decisions, the real choices, love or hate, cut and run or tough it out. but now i wonder if maybe he meant, it's all big stuff, every breath of it, maybe he meant, sometimes the choice between the wheat or the white is a choice that will change the course of your life.

&&&&

i always knew i had it good, always knew i had beaten the odds. i have my faults but i will give myself this, i always felt a deep gratitude for my luck, for my place: of all the billions of people that have ever walked through this world, i had it better than almost all of them. born into a wealthy nation, into a loving family of a mother and a father and two sisters and a brother, always with a warm bed to sleep in and enough to eat, and then i grew up and eventually found a love many can only dream of.

somehow, as silly as it sounds, i thought that gratitude might protect me. oh, i knew that eventually, either me or lauren would get sick and die, leaving the other of us to trudge through life alone. i'd lived such a charmed life, though, i never expected that to happen so soon.

but it did. my luck ran out, way sooner than i thought it would, i lost the center of my life, my wife, my lauren, in relative youth, what with her just thirty eight and me forty one. beaten and broken by this imperfect world, i suppose the cruelty of life finally caught up with me.

now, me and our three children stumble through a new world, toward an uncertain, but certainly diminished, future. everything you do has consequences, indeed. once we loved madly, deeply, and our love for each other, and for life itself, made us think it a good idea to create new life.

now, here they lie tonight, fast asleep: three motherless children, two of them so young they will never have even the slightest memory of their mother. we got them into this mess, and tonight i think, i will admit it, i think, perhaps it would have been better for them if i hadn't bothered to go out and meet their mother that night sixteen years ago.

but i can't take it back, can i?

we're here, in part because of a snap decision i made a long, long time ago. go to the bar or go home, think i'll go to the bar, and i did, and sixteen years later there's three kids with no mother and a husband mad with grief.

i suppose there will be other snap decisions to be made along the way: let us hope that some of them work out for us.

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  •  Those two youngest kids... (23+ / 0-)

    may not ever know they're remembering their Mum, but there will be strange, shooting warm things like rememberings, I'll bet. And the first time one of them falls in love with a great band or makes a road trips or masters a green curry, I hope you're looking right into their happy eyes and knowing for damned sure it would not have been better for them if you'd gone for the Doritos.

    Dig for fire.

  •  {{{{papa chach}}}} {{{{chach kids}}}} (16+ / 0-)

    you will not always stumble through the diminishment.  

    things will not always be like they are right now.  

    ~~~~~
    i met my now-husband through a series of random decisions by both each of us, and a couple other folks.  and after that conference, i really didn't know if we'd see each other again.  he was the most together guy i'd ever dated.  

    those first few choices thought - what if i'd caught up with kerry at dinner, and hadn't needed to track him down at 11pm?  what if husband had . . .  etc.  

    mischbrot!  german, half rye, half wheat.  the bread of life.  

  •  Wow, Papa. (17+ / 0-)

    This was a tough one to read.  I hate to think what it was like to write it.

    You are a beautiful man.  Your three children are lucky beyond measure to have you for a dad.

    •  oddly (10+ / 0-)

      writing these diaries, any act of writing, seems to comfort me. i get sort of lost in it, go on autopilot. it's not like i forget about the loss when writing, but it seems...i don't know...tamed for a few moments. like i have some degree of control over it, by writing about pieces of it. because the rest of the time, it is kicking my ass, but good.
      thanks for the kind words.

      "Who in their right mind would send 363 tons of cash into a war zone?" - Henry Waxman

      by PapaChach on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 06:13:16 AM PDT

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      •  Thanks for sharing your story, PapaChach (1+ / 0-)

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        like i have some degree of control over it, by writing about pieces of it.

        I usually have a similar feeling about doing such writing, usually in journals or long letters (just completed one last week that had been stewing for years).  For me, it feels like purging/expunging something out of my system, I dunno, I guess like passing a kidney stone or something.

        One thought that comes to mind that may (I hope) be of some use for you.    

        You know how a pearl starts?  A grain of sand or something gets stuck in an oyster.  The pearl is formed by the oyster secreting a coating over it in layer after layer, so that it doesn't bother the oyster anymore.  Sort of like "matter" in one's eye.

        When "disruptions" of whatever magnitude happen (and I can hardly think of one larger than yours) I try to think of how it could be turned into something of value.  And I've determined to live my life to be the "irritant" that causes something beautiful.

        I think your description of the night 16 years ago, a "disruption" of your normal routine, would certainly qualify.  Perhaps you might think on this as you tuck your and Lauren's three "pearls" in bed.

        Again, thanks for your very human story.  Peace.

  •  (((PapaChach))) (15+ / 0-)

    It may be hard to see now, but you made the right decision that long ago night.  Sometimes people are taken from us, sometimes we screw up and let them go when we should have held on.  But the experience of loving and being loved is never a mistake.

    Your children will know their mother through you.  And in showing them the mother they don't really remember, they'll know you as well.  

    You were given a gift.  The grief will get more bearable, and the gift will linger on.  The children will help, they will anchor you and will keep the gift alive.

    My email is in my profile if you need someone to listen, someone who will understand.

    Blessings on you, my dear.  And Peace.

    Calling bullshit on "bracing rhetorical thrusters" since Fall 2006....put your words into action at Road2DC

    by Got a Grip on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 11:14:49 PM PDT

  •  {{{{PapaChach!}}}} (17+ / 0-)

    I've been looking for a diary from you.......and I knew I would cry when I found it. How I wish it were possible to remove grief from our fellow travellers and share it among ourselves, so your burden would be lighter.

    You gave Lauren the opportunity to live on through the children, and she is, and will continue to do so......and the glimpses of her in them will probably comfort you at times and break your heart at others.  

    Your "snap decision" was meant to be, dear PapaChach. Hugs and blessings and comfort to you all. Please check in again soon if you can.

    "Never" forget 8-6-08: the glorious day edscan "made" the Rec List.

    by Ekaterin on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 11:21:20 PM PDT

  •  For all the grief (12+ / 0-)

    I doubt your children regret being born. Especially as they were born of love. And, certainly, you don't regret that you have them in your life?

    It makes sense that you would be questioning life. Angry. Cynical. Self-doubting. These are so very human. I recommend that you keep questioning. Deeper and deeper you'll go. Visions of answers may change.

    May you eventually come to some peace and re-embrace life. Particularly that which you created.

    •  don't regret having them (9+ / 0-)

      do feel guilty that they got stuck here w/out a mother. not that we could have ever known the awful fate that awaited her, obviously. but sometimes my guts bleed for them. we made choices and put them here. they had no choice. i imagine this guilt will dissipate - i know it's not logical, but it's there these days.

      "Who in their right mind would send 363 tons of cash into a war zone?" - Henry Waxman

      by PapaChach on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 06:20:56 AM PDT

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      •  I have similar (6+ / 0-)

        thoughts because I'm separated from my daughter's father. Marrying him was a "mistake". There were signals I would be better off having paid attention to. We're amicable now and for a child with separated parents she has it pretty good. Still, I feel guilty. What did I bring her into this world for?

        I wouldn't give her back for the world. She's awesome. And, still, I feel guilty about the pain she suffers.

      •  Life is risk (6+ / 0-)

        I keep reminding myself this. We can't promise anything. we can only do our best. The one thing we can control is the love we give. We give that in endless store.

        more thoughts:
        My daughter and your children and so many other children will respond according to their temperaments and environments, but this is their life. They simply don't know any differently. And if it is filled with as much love as possible, that's more than many get and a lot to hang onto.

        Hang in there. The loss is unbearable, I'm sure. The loss of her and the loss of a vision. Grieve, grieve, grieve. Have faith. In something. Anything. Life will re-focus. The one thing we can count on is change.

        I write this as someone who grew up in a very abusive and neglectful environment. Lots of physical and psychological injury. (If it's any consolation, and it probably isn't, I would have been better off if my other had died. It's worse to have one who is abusive. I tell myself, anyway.) Somehow, I've always found joy. I've known deep pain, but also great joy. Regardless of circumstances, the joy is there to be had. Many years of therapy have helped. And what I realized was how much grieving I had to do. Grieving what I never had (a loving family) and what I might have been had I gotten it. It took a long time.

        It's good you have the outlet of writing, I think. Any means of expressing have always helped me. I hope that it's meaningful for you.

      •  Not your fault. Not your fault. Not your fault. (3+ / 0-)

        I am so very sorry for your loss.

        We have children because God or nature or evolution has  spent 4 billion years building us to have children -- to LOVE children. It is not your fault that you are a fleck of foam on the ocean of 4 billion years. Your children will understand; they are flecks of the same foam.

        If this sounds like I believe it's all meaningless, all random -- it shouldn't. I believe the ocean is GOOD; so being a fleck of this ocean is also GOOD. But a fleck does not understand the ocean.

        Suggested reading:
        Ecclesiastes
        Robert Wright's "Non-Zero: The Logic of Human Destiny"

        May God bless you and your family.

        -4.25, -4.87 "If the truth were self-evident, there would be no need for eloquence." -- Cicero

        by HeyMikey on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:23:09 AM PDT

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  •  {{{PapaChach & kids}}} (11+ / 0-)

    Lauren will always be in your hearts and your memories.

    Thanks to your beautiful writing, she's in ours, too.


    Those who say it cannot be done
    should not interrupt the person doing it.

    by Lashe on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 11:33:05 PM PDT

  •  everytime I read one of your diaries (13+ / 0-)

    I think to myself "how did I miss this? How did I spend the last nearly half century without finding the center of my own heart?"  I must be lacking...it's not just chance or the vagaries of fate.

    I grieve for you, PapaChach. But I'll admit that I've spent a small amount of time envying you (in a nonspiteful way) and your loving and lovely relationship with your Lauren.

    Peace and hope to you and yours, PapaChach. Beautiful, beautiful writing as always.

    "When Bigbad Shit come, no run scream hide. Try paint picture of it on wall. Drum to it. Sing to it. Dance to it. This give you handle on it." Kesey

    by exmearden on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 11:45:27 PM PDT

    •  i don't know (10+ / 0-)

      you say it's more than the vagaries of chance...i suppose so. i have had many loving, wonderful relationships with family and friends, i am fortunate to have the presence of so many beautiful people in my life, especially at a time like this.

      but for reasons i can't fully articulate (another mystery, i guess), lauren was the one who took me down there to the center of my own heart. because i never really went down there until she came along. or maybe i looked down and got scared off until she somehow gave me the nerve to keep looking. was she the only person in the entire world of taking me there? i don't know. probably not. but it still was an incredible bit of chance that we crossed paths, and i am not convinced i woulda got down there by now without her help.

      hopefully i am making some sort of sense here?!?!?

      "Who in their right mind would send 363 tons of cash into a war zone?" - Henry Waxman

      by PapaChach on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 06:32:03 AM PDT

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  •  Hey, PapaChach, (13+ / 0-)

    Love and admiration as always. You continue to transform
    your grief into a heartbreaking but always beautiful story
    that helps us (me).

    Please try not to think this way, okay?:

    we got them into this mess, and tonight i think, i will admit it, i think, perhaps it would have been better for them if i hadn't bothered to go out and meet their mother that night sixteen years ago.

    Your children are alive because of your choice that night and have long lives
    ahead of them where they can cherish the memory (even if you have to create
    those) of their mother. And they carry their mother with them literally,
    physically--they carry her with them!--memories or not. And I do really
    feel someday you will be able to tell them stories of their mom and
    find joy in memories that now are too raw and grief-filled.

    It is never too late to be what you might have been [especially now] George Eliot

    by begone on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 12:15:27 AM PDT

  •  May I suggest a book? (7+ / 0-)

    A Grief Observed by CS Lewis is a quiet intimate sharing of his own grief when he lost the love of his life, with whom he had only a few years to share - my blessings and warmest wishes to you.

    •  I took the subject line a different way. (7+ / 0-)

      May I suggest a book?

      PapaChach, your writing is breathtaking.  Literally.  The love you have for Lauren reaches out, grabs me by the throat... chokes me up.  I feel like I know you -- and her.

      You've probably been told this before, but I hope you are saving these diaries.  As much as I treasure them -- and I do, I know that your children will eventually treasure them far more.  

      Not only did you stumble upon something amazing that night so long ago, but Lauren was a lucky woman that night too.  Not many find a love like what I see reflected in your writing.  May your kids find it too.

      Hang in there.  And thank you, yet again, for writing.  May you gradually come to find peace.

      Social advance depends as much upon the process through which it is secured as upon the result itself. --Jane Addams

      by shock on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 09:44:45 PM PDT

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  •  I met Barb a few blocks over from Ralph's... (9+ / 0-)

    It was April 29, 1988, at a 24-hour poetry marathon called "Readings Against the End of the World." I wasn't really a poet, but I was a lefty activist, and I'd written an article about the event for Metroland, so I wandered by.

    She read at about 3 am, and I just fell in love with her voice...

    Well, not everything works out. She and I split five years later, in an ugly divorce, and I pulled a Jack Kerouac and hit the road. Wandered around the country for most of the next ten years, spending a lot of time on the left coast.

    I was working at a software company in Eugene Oregon, but spending a lot of time on the more active social scene of Portland. March 19th, 2005, there was a fundraiser for a group trying to save one of the last working farms in the city limits from condo-fication.

    Since it was just about the first day of spring, they called the event "Bloom". I would have gone anyway, but that was just icing on the cake... that, plus it was three days before my birthday.

    Lyra and I met on the dance floor. Pretty crazy, eh? Here we are, three years later, planning an August wedding, and after that maybe two or three kids... we don't know how much time we'll have together, but then, nobody does, do they?

    We'll be back in Albany for a family visit over Passover, next month. We'd love to by you a drink, if you're up for it.

  •  So sorry for your loss (9+ / 0-)

    My father died when I was 2 1/2, too young for any actual memories of him.  I don't know how they did it, but my family (mother, aunt, grandmother) managed to make him a part of my life anyway.  Through the art he left behind, when they told me what he liked, and in other ways they made sure that I knew who he was.

    By what you've written it looks like you've got a good start on doing the same for your kids.

    ...

    French bread, preferably as the foundation of a really good po-boy.

  •  Thank you, PapaChach. (6+ / 0-)

    Thank you for sharing Lauren with us.  I'm so sorry for your loss.

    My father died when I was young (I was eight and a half, and I really shared something I wrote about him here on DK and on my own blog), and I don't remember him very well.  But I do feel like I know him a bit because my family shared him with me.  And you'll pass on who Lauren was to them, through your actions and your love for them.  Your memories will become their memories.  Sure, it's not the same; I totally get that.  But your children are lucky to have someone so passionate about their mother, someone who will share every last bit about her with them.

    Please, take care of yourself.

  •  Be well (n/t) (5+ / 0-)

    "When men yield up the privilege of thinking, the last shadow of liberty quits the horizon." -Thomas Paine

    by Fogiv on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 10:10:20 PM PDT

  •  All the best to you and your kids (6+ / 0-)

    From another forty-one years old who can still bless his luck for his own thirty-eight years old and three kids.

  •  PapaChac... (4+ / 0-)

    Love is never wrong. Love never dies. Love very much is a rose that may whither in fall, disappears in frozen winter but somehow returns in spring to offer beauty anew,

    Lauren is your rose.

    "Some creatures are made to see in the dark." -- Henry David Thoreau "A nation never fails but by suicide" -- Ralph Waldo Emerson

    by Bodhiness on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 11:05:24 PM PDT

  •  It takes a year (4+ / 0-)

    to begin to make sense of it.

    I lost two dear friends last year three weeks apart.

    It owned me for a good bit.

    Hang in there, believe it or not you will begin to feel normal again.

    For right now, feel. Just feel, and try not to make too much sense of it.

    Say No to Spineless Democrats!

    by roboton on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 11:08:59 PM PDT

  •  Wow, the parallels (5+ / 0-)

    Papa:
    As I read your diary I thought of when Dan and I first met, at Marsuggi's on First in San Jose... and all the uphill battles since then. I always said I didn't need a billboard to see the meaning of things- we met on April Fool's. The band was A Cruel Hoax. I had my warnings alright. We were both English majors then too.
    Nearly 19 years later, we have two great beautiful amazing children. We lost three pregnacies. Funny how I'm telling the world this- and it looks like a simple gain/ loss ledger- but you know it's not really that way.
    Anyway. I'm sad for you that you lost your Lauren. I went back and read your previous diary- about the brain surgery. Dan had a traumatic brain injury when he was 38. Trauma. That's a long word. It took 15 months for him to recover. That's amazing- out for moments- smashed straight on from a fall backwards- and then when he was out of the woods such a long time to recover. Of course I see improvements still- and it has been 11 years since Jan 28 1997. I was 20 weeks with Weston then, and nearly lost him. The Doc had just given me the OK to walk the day before Dan's injury.
    I saw you mentioned Evie- my name is Evelyn too. Like I said, interesting parallels. I wonder if her middle name is Rose?
    At any rate, I just wanted to say that I can relate. It is gut dropping just to understand again, and feel, what you are going through, what you have gone through. Sometimes five minutes is a great long goal- to just get through the two minute toothbrushing timer on the sonicare was a moment I remember vividly. Keep journaling. I have several notebooks from that time. Write it down. Do some drawings. It is difficult- but like the line- the only way out is through. You thought you had love before? You will be astounded by the compassion you will develop- to the point where you will often wonder why other people just don't see compassion as the first reaction toward others.
    Best,
    Evelyn

    The day is coming when a single carrot, freshly observed, will set off a revolution. Paul Cezanne

    by MeToo on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 11:27:55 PM PDT

  •  oh god, i love you papachach, man (2+ / 0-)

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    i'm alone and have been so since my life went sideways in'93.  I thought i loved a woman, but found only heartbreak, betrayal, and death in the balance.  I survived, but am only a shell of a man as a result.  you found love; i found only sorrow.

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." John Lennon

    by trashablanca on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 11:59:26 PM PDT

  •  What a beautiful and haunting diary. (4+ / 0-)

    PapaChach, please don't feel guilty about bringing your children into this.  We want everything to be perfect for our children, it's human nature; but their lives can't be perfect.  All we can do is our best.  Your children were born of a loving marriage, and you're such an excellent communicator I'm sure you will give them the knowledge, the sense, of their mother.  And they will give her to you in sudden, momentary resemblances: a smile, a look in the eye, a food craving or aversion, a habit or quirk -- and you'll see their mother in them.

    Be well...

    McCain '08: Same crap, different asshole. -- Hunter

    by snazzzybird on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 07:06:17 AM PDT

  •  {{{ PapaChach }}} (2+ / 0-)

    Your story of love sounds very similar to my own; your story of loss... well, words escape me. My wife and I have that discussion every once in a while, but it never ends happily. It is better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all, even if that loss is a loss of life. My heart goes out to you and your wonderful children. Hang tough.

    [-6.25, -5.59] "The love you take is equal to the love you make." - J. Lennon, P. McCartney

    by Phil N DeBlanc on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 07:07:40 AM PDT

  •  Stout Hearts! (2+ / 0-)

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    Give yourself time to grieve and continue writing about it.  I have found therapuetic release in writing.

    It is not for me to say this, but I believe your wife is with you in the form of your children.  Celebrate the blessings they will bring you.  Look after them and channel your grief into caring for them.

    I would add that as someone who lost two sisters in childhood, the danger is for the parents to turn to booze or total self-reflection, thereby ignoring the needs of those who depend on them (the children).  Don't look too deeply into yourself and lose track of your kids.

    Great essay here.

    By the way, Ray Carver's ex-wife has a book out about him.  I saw her at a book reading.  It is strange how she is running out trying to generate a buck on the fact that she was married to him.  The book itself isn't worth buying.

    rh

    Somewhere in Texas a Village is missing its Idiot.

    by RoddieH on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 07:12:53 AM PDT

  •  I lost the love of my life, too (3+ / 0-)

    My husband died young, leaving me with two kids. It's been more than six years and I still can't imagine loving anyone else. More importantly, I just can't imagine anyone else loving me like Seamus did. We went through so much together. I don't believe that anyone could know or understand me in the same way.

    I know how you feel about the children, too. My husband was the strong one. He was the rock. I am not so strong or good as he was. It is a struggle.

    The pain does diminish over time. Slowly the memories start to bring smiles instead of pain. I keep telling myself how lucky I was to have had real love, because a lot of people never get to have what I had, even if it didn't last long enough.

    Wheat or white? My love story had a moment of choice, too. We had dated when we were younger, broke up, he married someone else, they got divorced. I made a very last-minute decision to go to a party that I knew he would be at. I did not expect to even do more than say "Hi". He was carrying the pocket watch I gave him ten years earlier. We ended up together again that night and got married less than a year later. The Fickle Finger of Fate.

    It's up to you to give your children lots of "memories" of their mother. From the way you write about her, I'm sure you will do just that.

    Military Commissions trials: Guilty until proven guilty in a kangaroo court of law.

    by whitewidow on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 07:36:27 AM PDT

  •  Untold numbers of people grieve with you (1+ / 0-)

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    and for you. Please be well.

    May the source of peace send peace to those who mourn and comfort to those who are bereaved.

    "It's not enough to be right. You still have to use your nice voice." -said by my then six-year-old daughter; "Love binds us all."-willb48

    by be the change you seek on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 09:57:08 AM PDT

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    In my own life, reading your story last night made me believe in love again. I do hope you write a memoir, I know I would read it.

    I am so sorry for your loss. May you and your family find peace in the most unexpected places.

    The opposite of war isn't peace, it's creation - Jonathan Larson

    by alkalinesky on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 12:27:50 PM PDT

  •  Get yourself to WidowNet (0+ / 0-)

    When my beloved died in 2001 after his ugly battle with cancer, I was going truly crazy with grief until somebody pointed me to WidowNet, an online support community for folk who've lost their spouses. WidowNet's membership cuts across all demographics - young/old, parent/childless, straight/gay, male/female, rich/poor, educated/ignorant, dem/repub, race, religion, nationality - it's sole purpose is to be a place where widow(er)s can support each other during the life-changing process of grieving the death of our husband or wife.

    And you'll find other guys there who are the sole parent to now-motherless children, men who'll help you sort it all out to take the best possible care of your kids.

    The heart of WidowNet is the discussion board, which literally saved my life during the first 18 months after he died.

    "When reality bites, bite back!" ~ The Werewolf Prophet, resident loopy guru of Prophecy Street.

    by The Werewolf Prophet on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 01:43:08 PM PDT

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